A Silent Voice
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Mar 26, 2023 12:52 PM
#51
| i mean it depends from your perspective, I thought it was okay but some really love it; i still think it was better than Kimi no Na wa |
Mar 26, 2023 1:05 PM
#52
FluffyExpress said: Levi1108 said: So you think you need to be experienced with something to understand it? WTF? And this movie succeeded because the generation is suicidal and miserable? I was already pissed off with the title. But after reading what you just said, I don't even wanna argue with you. To start, I’m directing this towards the OP, but I liked what you said and wanted to build off it, so I quoted you as well (I wanted to make sure you knew I wasn’t coming off as harsh towards yourself). Without further ado, I find it very abysmal that the OP would claim such things of a generation. When faced with a realistic premise, they figure that the characters need to be relatable (this is my takeaway, correct me if I’m wrong). No one person is the same; empathy in reality takes much more than relational similarities. People like to self-insert, and all I ever hear of it is whether they really could or not (which in turn leads to a large portion of whether they are dissatisfied with a show or not). Before I get off track and endlessly ramble on which I could (I assume many already find this confusing)… KEY POINT: The only thing one should be doing when absorbing a story is placing themself in the shoes of the characters (understand THEIR feelings and what compels THEM to take action [You are not them]). To say you simply don’t relate is just half-assing any interpretation of a message that an author is seeking to give. He didn’t write his story about YOU. Absolutely. Maybe the OP just didn't understand the message and the show. The most important part about this show is the character development. How the character was and how the character completely changed, in a good way. You don't really need to relate to the characters. |
Mar 26, 2023 1:10 PM
#53
| Low key i kind of agree with you even though I still thought it was good enough, I find it pretty overrated. I think it suffers a lot from being too shounenish and a lot of the side characters besides the main 2 just straight up made the movie worse for me |
| Training to become a real magical girl |
Mar 26, 2023 1:23 PM
#55
SatouMatsuzaka said: TheOmniPantheon said: SatouMatsuzaka said: ryangosling007 said: SatouMatsuzaka said: the story was pretty compelling with the great animation and sound design. it truly encapsulates how people w/ suicidal thoughts would behave in a situation like that. i adore knk with all my heart and it held a special place in life(always will be). its a pleasure to be able to watch this masterpiece.I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. Again, not arguing about the presentation. I prefer other topics than suicide and depression. I’ve never been at those low points in life, so I do not relate. Nor have I been bullied as the movie portrays. You do not have to relate to the movie in order to love it. At least, that is the story with me. Hm. I haven’t ever lost someone personally, but I absolutely loved “I Want To Eat Your Pancreas” . When it comes to KnK, i just can’t bring myself to enjoy it. You like watching a deaf girl get bullied? You didn’t understand the meaning of the story at all if you think it was just about a deaf girl being bullied. It was about the impact that being a bully had on the mc and how he was able to heal and overcome his depression through the forgiveness of the girl (at least that’s how I see it). Obviously this just wasn’t the type of movie you’d enjoy which is fine but I don’t understand why you have to make a forum post about it just because you didn’t relate to the characters. |
Mar 26, 2023 1:24 PM
#56
| I watched it in 3 different sittings, this movie was so disinteresting |
Mar 26, 2023 1:32 PM
#57
soniyay said: BASED. I was just about to do the opposite of what you just did until I read your response.I'm not gonna read some rant about why you didn't like this movie, Don't like it ? give a low rating and move on there's a reason it has 8.90+ rating on MAL people enjoy it  |
samsince04Mar 26, 2023 2:56 PM
  𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶   |
Mar 26, 2023 1:44 PM
#58
| This is what happens when you scroll through TikTok for most of your day. Your attention span is bad that you need something happening constantly that you think the pacing is off. I’m surprised you even watched it twice but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions even if they are wrong |
Mar 26, 2023 1:53 PM
#59
JazzyLovesAhri said: SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. its a 'right place at the right time " anime for me Same. I was in a pretty low point and decided to watch it. For me I could relate with Shoya seeing purple x's over people's faces. I personally really liked it, but I can see why others may not. |
Mar 26, 2023 1:53 PM
#60
| You don't need to relate to the anime to think it's good/masterpiece, sure it's not a masterpiece, but definitely better than something like kimi no nawa. |
Mar 26, 2023 1:59 PM
#61
| 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this |
Mar 26, 2023 2:02 PM
#62
| Not everything in life gets resolved perfectly. In fact, i’ve seen people get away with worse shit. This one guy in my high school impregnated a girl then just moved away scot free. Forgiven maybe not but nearly forgotten. But yeah to me the girl you mentioned was the same. Not to mention they were all kids at that time. Lord of the flies style with a deaf person. There is also a cultural thing. In most asian countries, especially japan, there is this thing where if you deviate from what people call “normal” you are in for some hard times. Depression and suicidal depicted in this film is not that hard to understand. There are other complicated ones. People do wrong shit every time. People who do horrible shit, regrets what they have done. Sometimes, they feel like dying is easier than continuing living. You don’t have to relate to not bullying others. Just things you’ve regret doing so much it still hunts you today. For the girl, have you ever had that one guy/girl who just doesn’t fit in. They don’t have to be bullied. Just that no one hangs out with them. I doubt you are one of those since you said you don’t relate but you at least know one right. This is their story so they relate. People also know one of those guys so they can emphasise how they feel. What if, i am in their situation kinda thing. I myself have a few others i think is “better/sadder” than this film but i do still love it and find it a really good depiction of what life is like for certain people. Like one litre of tears this is how life is like for some people. Might not be as extreme, might be more. Im not patronising you. Just explaining why the film is as well received as it was in my perspective at least. |
Mar 26, 2023 2:02 PM
#63
| it's a really good movie!! you dont need to relate to the characters to enjoy things or shows either. not everyone is a young school girl who has to fight bad guys with her magic, but many of us still enjoy magical girl animes. it's your opinion at the end of the day though |
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Mar 26, 2023 2:15 PM
#64
| Then why do you relate to Violet Evergarden and Kimi no Na wa when these shows also try to be depressing. |
Mar 26, 2023 2:20 PM
#65
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. People call this show a masterpiece because it is one what you were saying about not being at low points in your life doesn't mean that the film is bad bc you cant relate to the mc it means that you have not yet been through enough to understand and see things from the view of other people i hadnt been in any depressive state when i watched this movie for the first time however i knew how to see things from different angles and thats what made the movie beautiful its that the story told is told in such a way that you can relate and understand the character even tho you have never been in that situation however i do understand that people have different taste in shows so i believe that if you didnt like thats fine however i think you should watch it a again in 2 or 3 years because you will probably be able to understand it then |
Mar 26, 2023 2:25 PM
#66
| If it's a master piece or not that everyone's personal choice but I think it is good because it shows the karma. It says that you will get pay back of your every step it doesn't matter if it is good or bad and also says that if you make friendship with bad people you will become bad also that what happened to the MC in his childhood. But when he changed and started regretting he started making good friends. This is a nice character development and the inner meaning make it a good movie. There are so many good points indicated in this so if you watch closely you can understand this. And without that it's graphics quality make it good also. |
Mar 26, 2023 2:31 PM
#67
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. i’m sorry but u do not need to “feel bad” for those who relate to the characters in silent voice 😭 sooner or later u too will probably get to understand the movie and/or it’s characters’ struggles, but it’s fine if u can’t relate! (better to keep it that way actually lmao) |
Mar 26, 2023 2:49 PM
#68
Sanyko20 said: This is what happens when you scroll through TikTok for most of your day. Your attention span is bad that you need something happening constantly that you think the pacing is off. I’m surprised you even watched it twice but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions even if they are wrong I’ve never downloaded Tiktok in my life. You didn’t even read my post, because I assume you’re too angry I don’t like your favorite movie. |
Mar 26, 2023 2:53 PM
#69
kizumi91 said: Then why do you relate to Violet Evergarden and Kimi no Na wa when these shows also try to be depressing. They aren’t “trying to be depressing”, being connected to a certain anime just spontaneously happens when you are invested in the characters and story, something KnK failed to do for me. |
Mar 26, 2023 2:53 PM
#70
| Movie wasn’t a masterpiece I’ll agree with that but it’s a solid 9/10. Pacing did seem off but movie flowed well and never dragged for me. People who read the manga say the movie is fine but that manga was better in terms of pacing. Also, you don’t have to relate to the mc to like a piece of entertainment. I respect your opinion as the movie isn’t for everyone, but the movie has good aspects going for it. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:03 PM
#71
Uchiller said: 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this Did you actually read my post? First off. I watched it once back in 2017 and then again in 2022 because I do not get for the life of me why this is so highly rated. A 5 year gap. I even said to myself that maybe I have to watch it again to understand, but NO. Watching it again only reaffirmed that I don’t like this movie. The subject matter and realistic topics portrayed in KnK in particular are a hit or miss. You either relate to it or you don’t. It’s not a fantasy, or have any sort of purely fictional property apart from the characters. So no, I’m not a fan of depictions of suicide and depression. But hey, if you enjoy watching deaf girls get bullied, go right ahead dude. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:20 PM
#72
| the movie is not about a bully who gets redeemed without any sort of consequences. after acting the wrong way towards Nishimiya because of "not understanding her" and "being different from the others". Ishida faces the consequences after being betrayed by his own "friends" then Ishida goes back to a life that is not worth living because of the problems he has and the problems he creates that affect others (his mom). After developing social anxiety because of his childhood trauma Ishida goes back to what everything started and tries to redeem himself, but he himself doesn't think he is worth of being forgiven and that he is never going to achieves his redemption, he faces obstacles but because he has a goal in mind he can see clearly that he never goes out his path (a great example is when Ueno tries to bully Nishimiya after meeting Ishida again, he doesn't let her bully Nishimiya and tells her to go). Nishimiya its also not an object for Ishida's development she has her own development as a character and in depth it is amazing, she started as a girl with a lot of excitement for school, all of that changes when she realizes that the kids around her seem to be different, she starts seeing herself as a weird phenomenon but thanks to Sahara those feelings go away but just for a while because Sahara changes School and she is alone again (she thinks it's his fault). She tries to be friends with other people (Ueno and Ishida) but it doesn't work, she tries really hard to keep going even though she is aware that the kids in school are making fun of her and are treating her like a freak. After being fooled by Ishida (the scene where Ishida erased what he wrote on the board about Nishimiya and she says thank you) She thinks there is hope for her to make friends at school, that's why when Ishida is betrayed she tries to give the favor back by erasing what the kids in school write on his desk. When Ishida discovers what Nishimiya is doing he freaks out because he blames Nishimiya for what is happening to him, Nishimiya then explodes (not literally) and tells Ishida that she is trying her best but life it's just cruel and people are cruel and that's why she feels ashamed of herself. Nishimiya ends up changing schools too. Later when both of them meet again Nishimiya and Ishida doesn't know what to do, Ishida just wanted to say something to Nishimiya before killing himself because he can't forgive himself, after telling Nishimiya if she wants to be hid friend the plans that Ishida had changed, know Ishida sets his goal of trying to forgive himself while trying seeking Nishimiya's forgiveness and happiness. The movie is about self love, trying to understand who you are, and understanding that the Firts thing you need to do to move forward in life if forgive your self of all the things you did wrong because after all we are humans and we made mistakes, Ishida was a Kid and he was not aware of the damage he was causing, but after having just a spoon fool of what he did to Nishimiya he understood that he was the problem and like I've said before, he couldn't forgive himself. The end of the movie is really interesting because I'd the moment Ishida realizes that he has achieves his goal, he cries because Nishimiya is safe and smiling and because he doesn't need to suffer anymore because of what he did on the past. After all is not the past the one that that defines us, those are the plans for the future and that's something Koe no Katachi teaches to us. sorry for the long analysis, and sorry because it's not fully completed, there are things I didn't encompass. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:21 PM
#73
| I don't have social anxiety but I think Bocchi the Rock is a great anime, love it. I despise all the characters in Evangelion, but at the same time I think they're great and I love everything about it. Anyway, enough with the examples, my point is: you don't have to relate to the story, the characters, the themes, to actually enjoy something, you don't really have to insert yourself in every story to find it good. |
  Grant me one hour on love's most sacred shores To clasp the bosom that my soul adores, Lie heart to heart and merge my soul with yours |
Mar 26, 2023 3:24 PM
#74
SatouMatsuzaka said: soniyay said: Cause a majority of our generation is depressed and suicidal I’m assuming.I'm not gonna read some rant about why you didn't like this movie, Don't like it ? give a low rating and move on there's a reason it has 8.90+ rating on MAL people enjoy it it's not about relating or not relating yourself to s character, it's about understanding the importance of the ideas the movie portraits so you (as a watcher) can understand why the characters are the way they are, act the way they act and end the way they did. A good deed is one that's capable of creating depth ind their character at the level that they feel human, not necessarily relatable. It also needs a good story and events that develop the characters in a manner that makes sense, and Koe no Katachi has both of those things. there are more aspects to take in count but they're not necessary in this debate. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:24 PM
#75
| It is not a masterpiece. It is not Federico Fellini. But it is great. It checks all the essential aspects. Its story is good. Its characters are good. Art, animation and music are great. It is OK you are not a fan. |
| Mene, mene, tekel, parsin |
Mar 26, 2023 3:46 PM
#76
| It resonates with people who actually understand the message behind the plot. It’s been a while since I first watched it but I doubt my opinion will change on a rewatch. If it’s good enough to stick with you for a long time and still make you feel the same way it did when you first watched it, than it deserves a 10. Other movies like your name, weather with you, I want to eat your pancreas we’re all good but I didn’t feel the same when watching them. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:51 PM
#77
| Me too, for me it was just average. I found the main character obnoxious, and the girl stupid for falling for him. It's as if it was a display of Stockholm syndrome. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:51 PM
#78
| Ok, but why you didn't make this in the Kimi no Na wa discussion board? That's the one it's kind of sad to see people think is a masterpiece. |
Mar 26, 2023 3:59 PM
#79
| How are you going to say you hate the movie and then say you feel bad for people relating to the MC?💀 I don’t relate to the MC fully but I still like his character and this movie |
Mar 26, 2023 4:10 PM
#80
| gosh. isnt is just so sad when other people have an opinion that isn't the same as mine? |
Mar 26, 2023 4:14 PM
#81
| The movie is a masterpiece and proof of it is the fact that you hated it and still watched it 2 times to come here and right all this lol respect your opinion, but im glad you're a minority, ratings speak for themselves. |
Mar 26, 2023 4:48 PM
#83
| I am happy you aren’t able to relate to the struggles of depression and similar experiences. I hope you don’t have to. You are also entitled to not be a fan or to be a fan of any anime. I don’t find the anime itself sad or the impact that it has as sad. I see this anime as more of a happy thing because it reaches a specific audience in a way that can bring hope and comfort. |
Mar 26, 2023 4:54 PM
#84
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I disagree with your opinion on the story and characters and I think it is just a story that isn't for you. But the pacing is rushed, the characters are underdeveloped, and it has a non ending. A large portion of the problems this film has is because it is a rushed adaptation of a 7 volume manga. It is a very poor adaptation and is far from being a masterpiece the manga isn't even a masterpiece piece so I don't get why people think this movie is when it is far worse than the manga. |
Mar 26, 2023 5:13 PM
#85
| bro don't title it that way, it's very misleading. You're gonna get flamed for it |
Mar 26, 2023 5:15 PM
#86
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. Most people haven't been to prison, and also find the idea of spending years in jail unpleasant. And yet "The Shawshank Redemption" is one of THE most popular movies of all time on IMDb. Hope that illustrates how silly it is to assume that the only reason why millions of people like A Silent Voice is because "they must all be depressed or suicidal" lol. P.S. It's perfectly valid to dislike Koe no Katachi btw (even I hate its rushed, crammed & overdone ending). But you absolutely DON'T need to find any work of art "personally relatable" in order to appreciate whatever artistic strengths they have - in this case, its animation quality, music, voice acting, and even a good chunk of its writing & direction are pretty good, even great at times. These aforementioned positives, ALONG with how well it manages to convey what depression, bullying, social alienation etc are like EVEN to _most_ people who haven't experienced such things, are the main reason why KnK has been so ridiculously successful. NOT cos "most KnK fans are depressed". It may not have done so for YOU - and you may not like watching movies that portray such themes no matter HOW well done they are... but neither of these make the movie itself bad or necessarily say anything at all about those who appreciate it. |
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Mar 26, 2023 5:38 PM
#87
SatouMatsuzaka said: Uchiller said: 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this Did you actually read my post? First off. I watched it once back in 2017 and then again in 2022 because I do not get for the life of me why this is so highly rated. A 5 year gap. I even said to myself that maybe I have to watch it again to understand, but NO. Watching it again only reaffirmed that I don’t like this movie. The subject matter and realistic topics portrayed in KnK in particular are a hit or miss. You either relate to it or you don’t. It’s not a fantasy, or have any sort of purely fictional property apart from the characters. So no, I’m not a fan of depictions of suicide and depression. But hey, if you enjoy watching deaf girls get bullied, go right ahead dude. Schindler's List is considered as one of the greatest movies of the 90s, and that was WAY more depressing than A Silent Voice. It portrayed the Holocaust in disturbing detail, so what does THAT tell you about the generation that was young during the 90s? Think they simply "enjoyed" watching Jews be gassed to death? I absolutely don't mean to insult you when I say this: but you've GOT to be young af if you still think only "fun, relatable & personally enjoyable" works have artistic merit. |
Mar 26, 2023 5:47 PM
#88
| I don't have a strong opinion on the movie. I don't think ppl like it because our generation is suicidal, but I also don't understand what's so great abt koe no katachi. I'm happy ppl enjoyed the movie tho. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
Mar 26, 2023 5:51 PM
#89
| On the contrary, I've struggled with suicidal ideations and I actually don't relate to the movie. I found it to be a shallow portrayal of these issues and it left a bad taste in my mouth. I felt Shouko was just an object in the male MC's emotional journey or whatever. Anyway, I didn't like it much, either. I agree with you about the poor pacing bringing down the good aspects of the film, such as the animation and OST. A Sign of Affection is a series that deals with disability much better than A Silent Voice does. For now it's only a manga, but I definitely think it could be adapted sometime. I recommend it for anyone who wants to see a deaf character who's actually fleshed out well. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:06 PM
#90
| Great animation, interesting plot and unique characters, just.very well done character exploration, also a sweet ending but I do think it was missing a climax somewhere in the middle to build tension. This would explain why you and some others found it boring as the tension kept steady until the ending. Will have to watch a second time to confirm this all though. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:15 PM
#91
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I won't trust the opinion of a psychopath who has Happy Sugar Life favourited. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:26 PM
#92
Arjun_Manoj said: SatouMatsuzaka said: Uchiller said: 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this Did you actually read my post? First off. I watched it once back in 2017 and then again in 2022 because I do not get for the life of me why this is so highly rated. A 5 year gap. I even said to myself that maybe I have to watch it again to understand, but NO. Watching it again only reaffirmed that I don’t like this movie. The subject matter and realistic topics portrayed in KnK in particular are a hit or miss. You either relate to it or you don’t. It’s not a fantasy, or have any sort of purely fictional property apart from the characters. So no, I’m not a fan of depictions of suicide and depression. But hey, if you enjoy watching deaf girls get bullied, go right ahead dude. Schindler's List is considered as one of the greatest movies of the 90s, and that was WAY more depressing than A Silent Voice. It portrayed the Holocaust in disturbing detail, so what does THAT tell you about the generation that was young during the 90s? Think they simply "enjoyed" watching Jews be gassed to death? I absolutely don't mean to insult you when I say this: but you've GOT to be young af if you still think only "fun, relatable & personally enjoyable" works have artistic merit. Arjun_Manoj said: SatouMatsuzaka said: Uchiller said: 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this Did you actually read my post? First off. I watched it once back in 2017 and then again in 2022 because I do not get for the life of me why this is so highly rated. A 5 year gap. I even said to myself that maybe I have to watch it again to understand, but NO. Watching it again only reaffirmed that I don’t like this movie. The subject matter and realistic topics portrayed in KnK in particular are a hit or miss. You either relate to it or you don’t. It’s not a fantasy, or have any sort of purely fictional property apart from the characters. So no, I’m not a fan of depictions of suicide and depression. But hey, if you enjoy watching deaf girls get bullied, go right ahead dude. Schindler's List is considered as one of the greatest movies of the 90s, and that was WAY more depressing than A Silent Voice. It portrayed the Holocaust in disturbing detail, so what does THAT tell you about the generation that was young during the 90s? Think they simply "enjoyed" watching Jews be gassed to death? I absolutely don't mean to insult you when I say this: but you've GOT to be young af if you still think only "fun, relatable & personally enjoyable" works have artistic merit. Arjun_Manoj said: SatouMatsuzaka said: Uchiller said: 1. the pacing of the movie was pretty well made. I don't really get that argument. like what did you expect in a slice of life anime movie...? it had a beginning, the development of the story and a strong ending. 2. You don't have to relate to certain characters in a movie in order to appreciate it..wtf...You only appreciate movies that depict your character in? 3. For me it's one of the best movies I have ever seen and I cannot understand why you re watched something you presumably hated p.s. and no it's not sad that some people think this movie is a masterpiece. You re actually kinda sad for saying this Did you actually read my post? First off. I watched it once back in 2017 and then again in 2022 because I do not get for the life of me why this is so highly rated. A 5 year gap. I even said to myself that maybe I have to watch it again to understand, but NO. Watching it again only reaffirmed that I don’t like this movie. The subject matter and realistic topics portrayed in KnK in particular are a hit or miss. You either relate to it or you don’t. It’s not a fantasy, or have any sort of purely fictional property apart from the characters. So no, I’m not a fan of depictions of suicide and depression. But hey, if you enjoy watching deaf girls get bullied, go right ahead dude. Schindler's List is considered as one of the greatest movies of the 90s, and that was WAY more depressing than A Silent Voice. It portrayed the Holocaust in disturbing detail, so what does THAT tell you about the generation that was young during the 90s? Think they simply "enjoyed" watching Jews be gassed to death? I absolutely don't mean to insult you when I say this: but you've GOT to be young af if you still think only "fun, relatable & personally enjoyable" works have artistic merit. You're putting words in my mouth and arguing against a strawman. When did I say anything about artistic merit? Seems you are just making up things I didn't even say. It's absolutely fine if you enjoy KnK, I sure as hell don't. I'm saying people relating to its portrayal of bullying, depression, and suicide is why a large portion of people call it a masterpiece. Which I do not think is true. [/quote] |
Mar 26, 2023 6:35 PM
#93
SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. Congratulations, you've somehow gain attention that you wanted. It's somehow sad to see people like you. Well, here, you got my attention. Just another day in mal discussion section. What a day. |
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Mar 26, 2023 6:38 PM
#94
RedLychee said: SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I won't trust the opinion of a psychopath who has Happy Sugar Life favourited. Says the guy who rated Konosuba higher than Attack on Titan. What a massive L. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:40 PM
#95
K-_-01 said: This post is another proof that this site is full of 13 yr olds(physically or mentally) who struggle to understand people with experiences other than them exist,.Any show with any form of nuanced portrayal of human interaction is going to be met with hordes of basement dwellers who either lack emotional intelligence or are user that it's characters deviate from the standard escapist fantasy model they crave. Bc one person now everyone gotta be 13 ok buddy stop crying and move on wit ur day |
Mar 26, 2023 6:42 PM
#96
SatouMatsuzaka said: RedLychee said: SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I won't trust the opinion of a psychopath who has Happy Sugar Life favourited. Says the guy who rated Konosuba higher than Attack on Titan. What a massive L. Well, to be fair, at least his was better than yours. lol. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:42 PM
#97
SatouMatsuzaka said: RedLychee said: SatouMatsuzaka said: I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I won't trust the opinion of a psychopath who has Happy Sugar Life favourited. Says the guy who rated Konosuba higher than Attack on Titan. What a massive L. Guess my taste isn't edgy enough for a edge lord, I'll leave the L with you since you seem to need it more. |
Mar 26, 2023 6:56 PM
#98
kycnui said: >"You can't call yourself an anime fan unless you empathize with this movie"SatouMatsuzaka said: Ironic. Do you want us to feel bad because we relate to it and you did not? Such selfishness, what a shame. You call yourself on your profile a passionate anime fan yet cannot respect emphatize with the message of one of the most endearing movies in our generation. Pathetic. I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. I'm cringing right now. This is exactly the sort of toxic elitism I see when people defend Koe no Katachi. |
Mar 26, 2023 7:41 PM
#99
Potatoboy11 said: wait. you hated it yet you watched it a second time? damn. still you hate it a lot more you should. i personally enjoyed it. but i won't go out of my way to call it a masterpiece. not liking something and hating is different idot. |
Mar 26, 2023 7:47 PM
#100
Bruh_epic said: This might be one of the worst opinions I’ve ever seen. A spinet voice is without a doubt a masterpiece. If you can’t see that then you are just stupid this might be one of the stupidest opinions I've ever seen. A Silence Voice is a hit-miss anime. Some people will find it good and some will not. His reasons for not liking it is pretty logical. If you can't see that then you are just dumb. |
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