Shinmai Renkinjutsushi no Tenpo Keiei Episode 3 Discussion

Bio said:
I know you know what an alchemist is, Japan, so what is she doing being a battlemage incomparably stronger than all the muscular adventurers in town? You'd think this was an isekai. And I'd be fine with the main being greedy as a character flaw, but that speech was terrible. That's enough of this show.

matias067 said:
oh my! it is a mass kumaMASSacre!

Magesuit said:
Some people seem really upset at Sarasa for stating the cold hard facts of life. Looking at how much it cost to get the bear mauled girl back into tip top shape she would rapidly go out of business if she did not get paid for it. Leaving the next who knows how many sick people to just die since there is no one to help them. And I guess this shows why the government was trying to get an alchemist out there they are a combination Hospital/national guard post.

DarkDooM2 said:
So first thing on the menu when a dying person is lying in front of you is talking about money? Yeah I'm with those 2 adventurers here, that's fucking scummy. It becomes even more obvious when Iris immediately offered her help in defending the village without asking for pay. Y'know, because people's lives are at stake. The author trying to make Sarasa out to be the good guy here by going out of the way to have the 2 adventurers abandon the village to basically force the viewer to regard them as irredeemable scum is just horrible writing.
Also, suddenly making Sarasa into a one man army when she's supposed to be just a simple alchemist... was that really necessary? Why did it feel like I'm suddenly watching a fucking battle shounen?

I liked the first 2 episodes, but this one brought me very close to dropping this shite.

Ferelimp said:
Why did episode 3 turn into trying to morally justify a system that fuels privatized healthcare. There are even government subsidies in the first episode that allow her to even get the shop in the country. and they try to make the 2 who are like why are you talking about money right now when this woman is dying the assholes. People need to get paid for work, but trying to use that morality in a bet to reinforce privatized healthcare is fucked up. Health care workers need to get paid, and people need health care. THATS WHY TAXES ARE PAID. If the government doesnt do it theres no reason to have one, its not doing its job if its not providing this basic social service

callmethebigG said:




I definitely see y'alls point but what Sarasa says about putting a price for Iris's life is right. If she saves this girl for free and the shop goes under, who would be there to save the adventurers who need help in the future? Healthcare is a privilege that we are lucky to enjoy, but the fact of the matter is that it costs money and someone is going to have to pay. I doubt that she is overcharging them (as it probably costs a ton of money to reattach a person's arm) and I also think that we don't know enough about the culture of this world to make any assumptions. Should Sarasa be required to provide healthcare for free just because she can? Its as Andre said to those 2 guys "would you just give away the stuff you worked so hard to gather just to be nice?"

Ferelimp said:


It is definitely true, people should be paid for their work. But there is a system that is provided by governments to not make the price of a life outweigh the work necessary to save it. The people who depend on that service are not the ones who should pay it when their lives depend on it. Not every country has this, and its fucked up, because the government has very few jobs to the public, social security, healthcare, and infrastructure. There are foreign affairs as well, but if the government is not providing social security like that then its cutting the very foundation of its own existence. Japan being deep within privatized healthcare, to the point of people getting murdered after mild injuries to avoid paying for health care, its a pretty fucked up sentiment to push out into the public

akihikosama said:
Hilarious how so many people are siding with the two gatherer guys. All Sarasa did was warn them that the medicine she will use for the treatment will be very expensive. They literally tried to guilt her into shouldering the cost for it instead of agreeing to pay for it themselves. Yeah lets side with the two grown ass men who want to rob this 15yo girl lol. She isn't running a charity nor does she rake in billions of gold coins in profit, price gouging. The comparison to the big pharma does not make sense at all.

Sugram22 said:
well health care is human right so it should be free, like Lefts in USA says :D

i mean they probably share same view

akihikosama said:
It would be nice if the world worked like that but unfortunately the medicine used to heal the girl doesn't just appear out of nowhere like magic. Someone has to risk their life to gather the ingredients and then someone has to use time to make it, those things make it not free, someone has to pay for it.

Fail_Man_X said:
No one thinks that health care should be free. There are just people in the US that wonder why their healthcare system doesn't operate the way it does in Canada or most of Europe or even Japan. If the series' author suddenly had a medical emergency, I assure you his bill wouldn't be 20,000,000 yen. Another thing that wouldn't happen would be for the doctor treating him to bring up his bill before rendering treatment. That's not how doctors operate, especially during a life-or-death emergency. Furthermore, that scene only exists to remind the audience that that medicine costs money and that Sarasa is running a business. Like...yeah, duh, but I guess it's necessary for younger viewers who don't understand how hospitals work. Because, ultimately, she doesn't collect payment before treating Iris. In fact, she only gives the exact cost the next day, and they still can't afford it.

akihikosama said:
The guy I quoted literally said that some people believe it should be free lol.

Fail_Man_X said:
It seemed like you were agreeing with him, but if not, my bad. I should have just quoted him instead.

akihikosama said:
Not sure which part the confusion came from. I sided with Sarasa from the very start, what she did made sense to me.

Fail_Man_X said:
The second half of my initial response addressed that. I don't think anyone, not even the bozos from the show, believe she shouldn't be paid for her services (though she technically did treat Iris for free), but to continuously harp on how expensive it is when Iris is on the verge of death is incredibly tone deaf. It's a pretty dumb scene and is only there to make the two guys seem unreasonable, but it fails at even that because the author doesn't understand proper bedside manner.