Tomodachi Game Episode 6 Discussion

TheMangaManiac said:
I wonder what people who screamed about how "predictable" this show is have to say after today's episode. Oh, right... nothing.
Because admitting that you're wrong takes balls x) just like with reveal that Tenji doesn't love Shiho.

RinTheWanderer said:

He also could have just used his final method right out of the gate and caught the traitor in a lie. Round one submit 5 cards, each one saying that a different person applied to play the tomodachi game, then tell the host that they are all lies. The ones that are cleared as being the truth are the traitors. Effortless.

RinTheWanderer said:
So I have some problems with Yuuichi's plan for the 2nd game. Particularly, from Yuuichi's perspective, Shibe could have been the traitor, he did not correctly rule him out.

First, the nametags bit was pointless. While it's true there is no maximum limit on bad mouth cards, there is a minimum limit, and that limit was hit every round except one near the end, after he had done all his deduction. It's impossible to submit zero cards and so you know for sure that no one wrote multiples and that your first two clears (the girls) were correct.

Second, Yuuichi incorrectly concludes that it would be too risky for the traitor to volunteer for the special round that cleared Shibe but this is untrue. While it is a risk, it's a risk that the traitor HAD to take. If the traitor noticed the nametags disappearing and figured out Yuuichi's plan, the traitor would need a way to false clear themselves and this special game would have been a godsend. Additionally, it's fairly unlikely that they would reveal that he was the traitor for the same reason it's unlikely that there would be a lot more negative spaces at the end. The spectators. It's far more interesting to see the tension of the traitor remaining hidden than just see it all come out in the open right away. Picking that secret would result in the most boring version of the game possible. It's obviously not completely out of the question, but theres at least solid reason to think it probably won't be.

Third, Tenji did actually false clear himself as well without realizing it. He wrote big reveals that he couldn't possibly know. This suggests that somehow the traitor has more information than could reasonably be expected, aka, the traitor must have spied.

Fourth, and probably most importantly, Yuuichi assumed there was only one traitor. If there had been two, especially if they were working together, Yuuichi's plan would have failed. Like Imagine it was shiho and tenji. Shiho could have tipped off tenji with a paper of her own while Yuuichi was in the booth and used that to false clear all of them or even falsely accuse a different person by having the cleared person write a bad mouth to clear the other one and incriminate an innocent uncleared player.

Bonus, his reasoning for not revealing tenji was the traitor earlier is paper thin. Bad mouth cards aren't special, if tenji went berserk he could easily just spill any number of secrets verbally. The game does not provide any extra opportunity to bad mouth your friends, it just gives you incentive to do so.

He also could have just used his final method right out of the gate and caught the traitor in a lie. Round one submit 5 cards, each one saying that a different person applied to play the tomodachi game, then tell the host that they are all lies. The ones that are cleared as being the truth are the traitors. Effortless.

amagirinomikoto said:
i might be really dumb but i feel like yuichi was making some big brain plays here to weed out the traitor??? idk this was all really intriguing,

yknow i couldnt predict that tenji was the 'traitor' until late, but i've had an incredibly lowkey 🌈 vibe since starting this show. so i got at least 1 thing right (i know tenji is lying though) . that gave me a good laugh

Tenkyuu29 said:
Why are there people who want to be smart if everything has already been solved clearly?
Look, brainiac, your ideas are just redundant but you don't get to conclude anything, the plot wasn't for Yuuichi to find out who the traitor was, he already knew it from the start... He just did everything so that we viewers can see and understand everything. what happened behind the scenes.
Yuuichi's true plan and plot was to go alone to the third game, from the first game he understood that his friends were not going to work together and each one wanted to save himself.
They can't understand something so simple, that's why he made tenji handle everything but finding out his secret was the plus, he wanted one of them to make it to the end so that the lie he made would make him go to the other game alone.
That's why the last one said, you see, if they forgive him or not, because he didn't care about finding out who the traitor was, he wouldn't care. But the plan is very well elaborated, if you are looking for a flaw it is because you are putting things into it that they never said and you are doing it in your favor.
About 2 traitors, the game at the beginning said that the traitor stole the money to play but that is a traitor, they don't tell you that 2 traitors stole the money... there may be more traitors participating but tenji was the one who thought to take them to the game .

sasaasasasa said:


u shouldve been suspicious of tenji since the start of the game because he was literally the loudest perosn in the gp

RinTheWanderer said:

He also could have just used his final method right out of the gate and caught the traitor in a lie. Round one submit 5 cards, each one saying that a different person applied to play the tomodachi game, then tell the host that they are all lies. The ones that are cleared as being the truth are the traitors. Effortless.

HeyNab said:
I have a question..
how does taking their name tack prevent them from writing multiple secrets ? Idk if its a flaw in the plan, or just that I’m slow

Gwenpool said:

You put a lot more thought into strats than I ever could. But yeah, his plan was sketch. It felt like the author was trying to make Yuichi look smart by being needlessly complex with his plan. There were so many unnecessary risks or moments where things could have fallen apart, like Tenji noticing Yuichi slipping papers. He could have accomplished things in ways that were quicker, simpler and safer.

erikkamirs said:


By taking the nametags, Yuuichi effectively holds control over their debt (if he looks at it, the debt is doubled). So it's not in their favor to betray Yuuichi's plan by writing multiple secrets. The risk far outweighs the benefits.

HeyNab said:
what if they still submitted 2 papers? I feel like im stupid for not knowing.. but i want to know, how would yuichi know who submitted 2 papers.. name tags would be useless

ROMARIOkkkk said:
First, it's implied that Yuuichi did the way he did because he was trying to "help" the traitor. Let me explain, the reason why Yuuichi in first place accepted to play the Tomodachi Game was because he wanted to help his friend in debt. Therefore until the first "strategy" (the one that failed) he (and everyone else) thought that the traitor's goal was to get rid of their debt. Remember what Yuuichi did? He gave them a full layout of how the second game works saying that the "second part" of the game would have more spaces that reduce their debt, and then he said that he'd want to end that game with everyone together, with no more fight. He basically gave a chance to the traitor reduce their debt IF their problem was money, he gave this chance because he truly considered everyone there his friend, even the traitor and he wanted to help this traitor. But when he noticed that the traitor's goal was actually something else but not money, Yuuichi changed his mind. The traitor (who at that moment, they thought their problem was money) refused the best strategy to reduce their debt. Yuuichi who tried to help the traitor, who he also considered a friend, changed his plans at that moment.
Do you get it now?

Synchrohayba said:
Art was pretty inconsistent in this one , but I really loved the added scenes , I can't wait for the next arc , one of my favs

ROMARIOkkkk said:
But if I was Yuuichi in that situation I would basically do the same Yuuichi did in the last strategy but only asking them to wrote more cards. I'd say "Let's everyone write three cards and put our names in it, in the first you write (I was the one who applied...) in the second one you write (I wrote Kokorogi's secret in the 4th period) in the third card (I was the one who wrote "insert name here" secret). In that way, not only the traitor (Tenji) but also those who gave him their name tags and betrayed him would be exposed. And Yuuichi with their nametag could look at it and double their debt.
But of course, that's juat my train of thought...

Chipp12 said:

Yeah that was a new low for sure


Looks like you've already forgotten that only 4 cards get in a voting and gods (viewers) won't necessarily vote for cards from different participants.

ROMARIOkkkk said:
Sorry, i deleted my quote by accident.

First: No, you can right as many cards as you want, that's in the rules.

Second: I don't know what the gods voting has to do with what I said. When I talked about Yuuichi's last strategy, i was referring to him asking everyone to write "I applied to play the Tomodachi". In this case, the management would definitely know who applied to play, therefore the gods would not need to make the voting.
You also deleted your quote to my reply so i'll also answer that. Tenji's and Yuuichi's case (where they had to prove they were lying) has nothing to do with this (again).
Let's suppose someone wrote "Shiho exposed Kokorogi's secret at the 4th period". In this case (just as in Yuuichi's last plan) the management would already know whether this was a lie or not. So if everyone write the same thing but replacing with their own names, the one who DID write Kokorogi's secret would be revealed, therefore he would not be penalized by lying. The management has the duty to make the game fair, so it would be unfair if they just ignored their own rules by saying "Whatever, all of you are going to walk some places ahead because you didn't prove you didn't write Kokorogi's secret" when it's obvious only one person could have wrote it.

Chipp12 said:

You was talking about a strategy where everybody puts in 3 cards resulting 12 cards in total (if traitor also agreed to go with it). They're not going to verify every single card there. Only the top 4 voted by gods. That's my point.

ROMARIOkkkk said:
I really wanna know where did you get the info that they are not going to verify every card there. Firstly, voting takes place only after all cards are read. It's not like the gods choose "ok we are going to vote only for these four cards, there's no need in reading the others". They read ALL cards and then the voting begins.

Galaxy_N1ck said:

I really want to know what you find so bad about this anime

pasanoid said:
are you implying it is 'not so bad'? did we even watch the same show?

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

the mc being a 'tondemonai bakemono' sigma male maniac is also cringe. why they always have to be like that? its super overuesd. and the two wemen watching over the farce in the lots-of-screens-room constantly reinforcing the notion with comments -- "oh my goddo, masaka, omae wa nanimono da?" -- who the fuck needed this.

the 3 amazing tricks the mc used to weed out the amogus weren't as grand either. they only worked because the mc had to win somehow. or rather demonstrate his sigma male pepega infinite iq powers. is this shit made to impress little kids? the game has no stakes because it's already in the bag -- it is established that the mc is going to pull bullshit move out of his ass with a psycho smear and be like: precisely as planned muahahahahah! every time