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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh man, Sarasa is just hilarious with her poses and the way she cheers others up. She's like a bright bulb at that academy, a contrast to Ai and her tears. Hopefully Ai can rebuild her life again and honestly, I believe she can do it with enough determination. I still find it quite interesting how different Ai and Sarasa are protrayed in this show. |
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| They really nailed the portrayal of PTSD with Naracchi very well. Who would’ve thought that creepy stalker-san would be the MVP of the episode. Good thing his stalking skills allowed them to get to Ai in time. Blonde girl is such a bitch trying to blackmail watanabe. Good thing she’s too dense to even be blackmailed lmao. Grooming and pedophilia last week, eating disorders next week. This is gonna be tuff. |
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| Continuing where we left off with Ai's cliffhanger of a dilemma, Sarasa almost divulged Ai's personal information to the stalker whom came to seek for forgiveness for all the trouble caused during Ai's idol days before she exited the group altogether and entered the Kouka Revue. Together with Taichi's interrogation, his creepy otaku stalker story is just as it seems, but Ai's emotional detachment has already been set in stone way before all of this ever happened. I find it intriguing that Sarasa still sees potential with Ai, but to get clean with her would take a considerable amount of convincing effort possible, even if they are at loggerheads to understand one another. Ai is also done with school, which this is a huge red flag for both Sarasa and Taichi to speak of her dejected personality. That said, the caretaker Senpais really gruelling Sarasa for the implicit rumour between her and the creppy otaku stalker, and it's all jealousy business from them. Talk about karma being served, and in true otaku fashion, he comes back to save her from being assailed by some even creepy guys, with Ai and Taichi following to the rescue. He's not so bad of a stalker otaku after all, and Ai showing concern to him is a sign of change, this Mikiya Kitaouji. A rarity of a great episode that exudes personal behavioral lessons, and more troubles incoming. |
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| Yep the creepy otaku dude was a good guy as I expected. The part with Sarasa dancing with him was amusing. Thou damn that Hijiri bitch did a horrible thing. I hope to see justice served to her. Also it's nice that Ai chan has finally started to move on. Slowly but surely someday her scar will heal. Good episode again, Sarasa continues to amuse me. Really liking her character so far. |
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| Another great episode! The very end makes me feel angry and sad though! |
| Emotional episode. That otaku was a good guy more than I thought. It looks like Ayako was trying to throw up the food she ate for her diet. That's not a suitable way to do for your diet. Hopefully, her problem will be resolve soon. Otherwise, it will severely affect her health more than her current state. |
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| Mikiya did well in his last speech to Ai and so did she by extend a hand herself in parallel to Mitauji doing so in the past and getting burned for it. Loved Sarasa's interaction with Mikiya, that was so funny. |
| Sarase is a person who can make friends with everyone and how she dances with mister creep otako who was not a bad persoun obviously. I hope ai chan can let the past go and make the future better, they two are so different, still i want that they became good friends. |
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hmstr said: SakurasouBusters said: Another great episode! The very end makes me feel angry and sad though! I dont get what happened at the end, she threw up because of her diet? Im fairly sure the implication was that shes making herself throw up |
In my opinion, she tries to throw up everything she ate for her diet. She worries that she will get fatter from everything she ate, so she ate and then try to throw up. This might lead to both physical and mental health problems for her in the future. In our real life, some girls are also using this method for their diet. |
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Lol! No need to apologize! |
| That was so sad when Ai offered him her handkerchief but it dropped, and she cried & told him that was the best she could do for now. I teared up...... I’m glad he wasn’t an awful guy & meant well. Ai inspired him to get his life together. He was kind & understanding to her. Sarasa & Taichi were kind to him too, she’s so endearing & unassuming. And I just love Taichi. My weekly dose of Nojima Kenji♡ That was funny when Kouzaburou replied Sarasa on behalf of Akiya trolololll. Keen to see how they’re going to tackle the eating disorder. They’re really dealing with some serious issues. |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| Only the Japanese can condemn fetophobia and use the fat character as grotesque comic relief within the same a couple of episodes, lol. |
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| This show is totally going the right direction. The execution of every scene is stellar. Episode 3 was already episode of the season for me, but now I can see it becoming my anime of the season. About that last scene, uh, I didn't thought that we would get more suffering... But I trust the people behind this show. |
UpToFourPlayers said: I kind of just want to see these girls burn down this whole shitty school system. Am I supposed to actively hate the school? I feel I moved from watching to see these girls strive for their dreams to hoping they can just dunk on this awful school in spite of everything it throws at them, like Kouka is the series' villain. The Takarazuka School is renowned for its very harsh conditions, but you also forget that it is a professional school that trains people for a highly respected and well-known theater group. |
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| Solid enough episode. It looks like Ai is starting to get out of her shell more after talking to the fan. The bit calling him “creepy otaku guy” was way too played out by the end though. |
| Solid episode. The creepy otaku to the rescue was pretty damn dope, and the handkerchief scene as a whole was nicely done. Ai ain't nowhere near close to getting over her androphobia, but at least its little bits of progress seeing her give her handkerchief to the person she misunderstood to a degree. Hijiri is up to some shit though of course with that photo against Sarasa, and in an industry like that, rumors can be very, very volatile to their careers. |
| Another fantastic episode what the fuck. I laughed, I cried and I got mad. Some serious level of emotions. I liked how they portrayed both the otaku guy and the change of perception of Narata realistically. Now we are going to deal with the second years, the results of rumours and the eating disorders? I'm in |
| I am still not a fan of how Narata's segment was played out, and I still really dislike her in general for now (not like I have any attachment to anybody from the series at all). That being said, I'm just glad that creepy NEET guy wasn't all that bad after all. This is a very mediocre and overdramatic shoujo drama for me, personally, and I'm just gonna reside to the fact that this type of series has almost always rubbed me the wrong way with its type of theatrics and story direction, but it has its fair share of decent enjoyment value and fulfilling moments, at least. |
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| This is the dark horse of the season to me. That moment with ai and the neet was pretty interesting and that one step forward for her was nice to see. I really like how sarasa was important in these past 2 episodes since she does add some happiness and more sunshine to the darker and more and less happy episodes. I'm very impressed by this series |
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| The backstory of how stalker-kun got there, makes a lot of sense, feel the blame. Sarasa keep just getting more awesome each episode. This time doing Wotagei, and that "Weaklings" face was just on point. Some would say what Mikiya did is stalking, I call "Normal episode of police drama". After this episode I hope that I will warm up to Ai. And next episode more dark plot. |
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| The otaku dancing, the matrix, the failed cross flying attack and Sarasa going Hokuto no Ken were comedy gold and elevated the episode to outstanding superbness. |
| This is why I can't take seriously most of shoujo series. They try to drive a story using delicate subjects such as pedophilia, child traumas and careers with impossible expectations and they ruin everything with cheap slapstick comedy. Introduce a character that's meant to be a huge obstacle for one of the main protagonists, just for him to be a creepy harmless otaku that goes avobe and beyond to apologize for something Ai wasn't even worried before he started stalking her. And of course he has to act in the most anime way to make a fool of himself and thus warm up the cold hearted bitch into her senses. Guess I'll have to rely on the supporting cast if I intend to keep watching this series |
| Another great episode Never would have expected this show to try to depict a relationship between an idol and an otaku. They really did a good job showing perspective from both sides, while also mixing in comedy in between. Despite there being hundreds of idol anime these days, I don't think this type of scenario has ever been tried. Like last episode, Hanamori is amazing at her role and even the side character casts (like Hanazawa) really stood out, even with just a small role. Can't wait for the next episode. Looks like we have another dark episode ahead of us. |
| Mikiya is a great guy, I hope we continue to see more of him. I love how Sarasa just uses derogatory terms to address Mikiya in such a nonchalant way, it's kinda funny. The part where they were performing those moves was really funny too. Last scene with Ai and Mikiya was very nice, glad to see she's starting to realize that not everyone is bad. |
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| creepy otaku man and watanabe saves the day !!!! short haired blondie is a BITCH. and ah.. we have a character with bulimia, not really a topic im fond of but i hope they do it well. not just girl want lose weight girl throw up girl get friends girl is healthy im also not really fond of how ai just made up with the otaku dude and its all good, but eh they didnt make her a Total transformed character she still dropped the handkerchief even when trying to help |
| the creepy otaku joke was overplayed but besides that it was a pretty decent episode. i'm glad that they didn't make Ai have some fake-ass epiphany that eradicates her ptsd, trauma takes time & work to heal, but she's giving it her best. as one might have guessed from that fatshaming humiliation last episode, bobcut is bulimic now, yikes. if she can barely hold herself together due to the physical and mental stress of not eating (or eating and purging) then she'll be a much worse performer than she would be with a few extra pounds. I hope they give Sarasa some more flavor, I'm not very fond of her character archetype. although, that advice she gave to Ai about making happy memories to forget bad ones seems to promise more depth to her character. |
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Kimurah said: This is why I can't take seriously most of shoujo series. They try to drive a story using delicate subjects such as pedophilia, child traumas and careers with impossible expectations and they ruin everything with cheap slapstick comedy. Introduce a character that's meant to be a huge obstacle for one of the main protagonists, just for him to be a creepy harmless otaku that goes avobe and beyond to apologize for something Ai wasn't even worried before he started stalking her. And of course he has to act in the most anime way to make a fool of himself and thus warm up the cold hearted bitch into her senses. Guess I'll have to rely on the supporting cast if I intend to keep watching this series I can see where you're coming from, but this is not a psychological thriller or anything among those lines. That guy being a nice person instead of a Perfect Blue-like stalker brings so much more value to the series imo. It does a great job regarding PTSD portrayal (for the medium that is), for it is a disease because it manifests itself as an irreverent, non-discriminatory fear, not a valid one. How do you imagine her making a first step towards overcoming that fear in this scenario if that guy was a creep indeed and this took a really dark turn? I mean... yeah, sure, he's a bit 'peculiar', but considering he's so out of touch with the real world and afraid of people and the one person that gave him hope was cancelled because of him (from his pov), how do you expect him to react considering he still has this wish to become better and still stans Ai? It's fiction aimed at younger girls and I've thought that this approach is quite appropriate. Moreover, how do you expect him to know that Ai wasn't worried about it before he started stalking her? The same action can be perceived in different manners if you change the recipient and his is a plausible take on what could have happened after that unfortunate event, considering his backstory, and he'd dealt with it as he had seen fit. Also, people are equally cringe and make fools out of themselves in real life too and that's ok (being cringe I mean). Edit: not rhetorical questions, I'm really curious how your optimal, gritty approach would look like or what you would have expected to happen for it to be good. (I'm not saying it's a flawless show by any means, but I didn't find those to be the biggest problems regarding it. Might be wrong tou vOv) |
DomsaJul 24, 2021 8:31 PM
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| Ngl, i feel like watching some classic shoujo drama show right now with how everything goin on in the first place. As expected the poor otaku stalker-san was not the bad dude and just wanna do the apologize for whats shit happened before. Never expect he got some portion of flashback too. Tho, its super beneficial to know more trail of trait of this difficult ex idol girl, Naracchi. A well done classic conclusion to Naracchi backstory arc. Watanabe really did some good part there. Even if she was in a fight state with her fellow tsundere roommate, her positivity and wise words proved enough to solved the problem without any scratch in the end. Good episode, but its not even the end of their school drama story. Because there's still a spoiled beautiful senpai, ready to bring more trouble in the future, and that little scene in the end with the girl and her diet process. Hopefully its not that disturbing than the previously scene. Oh well, with that being said, and possible first play they might've been get next, curious to see how the plot flows with all of those matters. Lets see... |
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Domsa said: Kimurah said: This is why I can't take seriously most of shoujo series. They try to drive a story using delicate subjects such as pedophilia, child traumas and careers with impossible expectations and they ruin everything with cheap slapstick comedy. Introduce a character that's meant to be a huge obstacle for one of the main protagonists, just for him to be a creepy harmless otaku that goes avobe and beyond to apologize for something Ai wasn't even worried before he started stalking her. And of course he has to act in the most anime way to make a fool of himself and thus warm up the cold hearted bitch into her senses. Guess I'll have to rely on the supporting cast if I intend to keep watching this series I can see where you're coming from, but this is not a psychological thriller or anything among those lines. That guy being a nice person instead of a Perfect Blue-like stalker brings so much more value to the series imo. It does a great job regarding PTSD portrayal (for the medium that is), for it is a disease because it manifests itself as an irreverent, non-discriminatory fear, not a valid one. How do you imagine her making a first step towards overcoming that fear in this scenario if that guy was a creep indeed and this took a really dark turn? I mean... yeah, sure, he's a bit 'peculiar', but considering he's so out of touch with the real world and afraid of people and the one person that gave him hope was cancelled because of him (from his pov), how do you expect him to react considering he still has this wish to become better and still stans Ai? It's fiction aimed at younger girls and I've thought that this approach is quite appropriate. Moreover, how do you expect him to know that Ai wasn't worried about it before he started stalking her? The same action can be perceived in different manners if you change the recipient and his is a plausible take on what could have happened after that unfortunate event, considering his backstory, and he'd dealt with it as he had seen fit. Also, people are equally cringe and make fools out of themselves in real life too and that's ok (being cringe I mean). Edit: not rhetorical questions, I'm really curious how your optimal, gritty approach would look like or what you would have expected to happen for it to be good. (I'm not saying it's a flawless show by any means, but I didn't find those to be the biggest problems regarding it. Might be wrong tou vOv) I think the problem is that your opponent used a typical false dilemma, saying that shows should either be as serious as possible with their content, or be as lighthearted and as innocent as possible. But anyway, I do not understand why Western viewers are obsessed with the idea that any show that touches on real issues should immediately turn into the most serious educational content. |
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| now this is a pretty good episode! i salute to you Mister Creepoy Otaku dude chad! lolz 5/5. |
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uncleqrow said: I like this show, a lot. Sometimes the art is inconsistent, but the rest of the show made up for it. And the themes! You sure this is a shoujo title and not a josei/seinen one? And I can never say enough of this: Holy shit, the ED, Man!!!! THE ED!!!!! Hands down the Best ED this season, compared only to Aquatope's and Kobayashi's ED. The last scene of the ED where the girls are standing in militaristic fashion, like they were just some expandable pawns of the industry.... That was so f*ing symbolic..... ED: this show reminds me of Glass no Kamen A LOT! Lol, military symbolism is an old element of Takarazuka culture, as ottokoyaku often depict male officers following Lady Oscar. |
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lady_freyja said: uncleqrow said: You sure this is a shoujo title and not a josei/seinen one? Shōjo manga always dealt with that kind of topics, with more or less frontal approaches depending of the periods. And honestly, when compared to the influx of social manga within shōjo during the 2000s decade, such as Mondaiteiki Sakuhinshu, Life or Deep Love, dealing with topics like rape, self-injury, bullying, prostitution et cætera, Kageki Shōjo is extremely tame so far. Yeah, there is a reason why anime bullying is called "shoujo bullying techniques." |
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| This show is so fucking good, I hope the show gains more traction as we go along. As expected, creepy stalker guy just wanted to apologize, he's a good guy. Still kind of creepy though lmao, but he just really cares for Ai as she was the reason she started to get his life together. Sarasa was hilarious just calling him nicknames and then outdoing the man in dancing. While Taichi is a real cool dude as always. Kana Hanazawa really nails these devious kinds of characters like Hijiri. But luckily our Sarasa is unblackmailable. Though I wonder if the answer Sarasa gave Ai to her question was from personal experience. Feel really bad for Yamada, she's overdoing it. The updated ED was really nice, I guess Sugimoto and Yamada will be the focus of the next arc. Really looking forward to the next episode. |
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| Good episode, just that this student who filmed Sarasa is really annoying. I'm glad we got to see things from Mikiyas perspective here and I can see he wasn't trying to do anything to Ai. He seems well meaning and just off putting by appearance. Plus Watanabe protecting Ai and pulling off a Jojo reference was a highlight. Seems we're covering another serious topic of bulimia next and man this is gonna be hard... |
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| dont ever you skip this anime , you will regret !!! i swear the plot and drama is very very interesting to watch .. |
Domsa said: Kimurah said: This is why I can't take seriously most of shoujo series. They try to drive a story using delicate subjects such as pedophilia, child traumas and careers with impossible expectations and they ruin everything with cheap slapstick comedy. Introduce a character that's meant to be a huge obstacle for one of the main protagonists, just for him to be a creepy harmless otaku that goes avobe and beyond to apologize for something Ai wasn't even worried before he started stalking her. And of course he has to act in the most anime way to make a fool of himself and thus warm up the cold hearted bitch into her senses. Guess I'll have to rely on the supporting cast if I intend to keep watching this series I can see where you're coming from, but this is not a psychological thriller or anything among those lines. That guy being a nice person instead of a Perfect Blue-like stalker brings so much more value to the series imo. It does a great job regarding PTSD portrayal (for the medium that is), for it is a disease because it manifests itself as an irreverent, non-discriminatory fear, not a valid one. How do you imagine her making a first step towards overcoming that fear in this scenario if that guy was a creep indeed and this took a really dark turn? I mean... yeah, sure, he's a bit 'peculiar', but considering he's so out of touch with the real world and afraid of people and the one person that gave him hope was cancelled because of him (from his pov), how do you expect him to react considering he still has this wish to become better and still stans Ai? It's fiction aimed at younger girls and I've thought that this approach is quite appropriate. Moreover, how do you expect him to know that Ai wasn't worried about it before he started stalking her? The same action can be perceived in different manners if you change the recipient and his is a plausible take on what could have happened after that unfortunate event, considering his backstory, and he'd dealt with it as he had seen fit. Also, people are equally cringe and make fools out of themselves in real life too and that's ok (being cringe I mean). Edit: not rhetorical questions, I'm really curious how your optimal, gritty approach would look like or what you would have expected to happen for it to be good. (I'm not saying it's a flawless show by any means, but I didn't find those to be the biggest problems regarding it. Might be wrong tou vOv) You are partially right, this isn't a psychological thriller, but my personal gripe is that it just pussyfoots the more touchy subjects by adding a lot of comedic values for respite manner, wich makes it quite unbalanced imho. I also have this same problem with a lot of battle shounen that just tries to look cool by being dark and edgy, but it falls flat and brakes immersion with cheesy uncalled comedy. I would certainly had prefered if the otaku element was played like in Perfect Blue rather than becoming a red herring. But sadly a lot of writers just don't have the balls to taint the otaku, specially when they are the biggest consumers of their product, hence why the whole PTSD and lack of social awareness of that guy feels more like a cheap shoutout and pandering from the author towards a big portion of their customers. Regarding your subject of Kitaouji not knowing that he wasn't the actual catalyst for Ai to leave the GPX group feels more like a tool to put stalking in a cute light hearted perspective, but in reality both men & women that have suffered from stalkers just won't sit with this very rose tinted glasses perspective, specially if it's released in what you already stated as a series for younger girls. My biggest gripe against Kitaouji is his obsessive apologetic stance that drives him to stalking Ai, common sense would just dictate of him moving on with his life after he found friends with common interests and a steady job. It just feels like a very overused anime cliche and it clashes when the show tries to be serious in other subjects imho. I'm not a writer and my input on a hypothetic scenario of Ai taking the initial step towards accepting men won't matter (specially in a community like this that immediately jumps on you because we're not published authors) But I can give you this, I certainly would have not introduced a threat like Kitaouji if I wasn't planning on it being an actual threat. RobertBobert said: I think the problem is that your opponent used a typical false dilemma, saying that shows should either be as serious as possible with their content, or be as lighthearted and as innocent as possible. But anyway, I do not understand why Western viewers are obsessed with the idea that any show that touches on real issues should immediately turn into the most serious educational content. Right, because it's easier to throw in a strawman rather than engage in an actual debate. But there really isn't anything to debate on gatekeepers that immediately scorn "baka gaijin" for having their own line of thought that doesn't align with their obviously superior and "right way" of consuming fiction. |
KimurahJul 25, 2021 7:35 AM
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