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Jan 10, 2021 8:03 AM

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dicecop said:
I know I should have kept my expectations low but man, they really didn't do the ending justice at all. Not to mention that they are aparently going for a monotone, dead inside Eren. They didn't even attempt to convey his emotions other than the single smile towards the end. Meh. Mappa not so goat this week
But a monotone, dead inside Eren is the one I perceived in the manga. Perhaps the lack of subtitles affected your understanding?
Jan 10, 2021 8:04 AM
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Damn,Mappa absolutely nailed it.Been waiting for this for 3 years and holy shit that was a sight to behold haha.
That transformation of eren was 10000/10. And finally,it begins.The beginning of the end!

Btw, Does anyone know if the AT was cg or not?


Apparently the shot of it emerging out of the building was, but the rest was 2D.


That was CG?! Wow, didn't even realize that. MAPPA did a really good job animating the CG AT this episode.
Jan 10, 2021 8:04 AM
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SethBigBoss said:
Great episode but a lot of off-model drawings (mainly Eren)


For some reason MAPPA haven't been able to give Eren consistent models since his appearance in episode 3. Side shots are always off.

Really weird considering the models are what they're doing the best for other characters
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


I agree. I think too many people are thinking of phenomenal OST's from Sawano and putting them in that scene without giving too much thought about how it fits.

YouSeeBigGirl would not have fit with the mood and tension created in that scene at all. Although, I must admit the re-arrangement of XL-TT was used unbelievably well.
Jan 10, 2021 8:05 AM
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I honestly do not like the ending scene. As a manga reader, I'm suggesting to anime-online to see the fananimations for chapter 100.
7/10

That’s the problem.
Mappa doesn’t care that u imagined this one particular scene so many times with the same ost for so long that you were bound to be disappointed.
Anyways I kinda guessed youseebiggirl wasn’t gonna get used since I believe let that ost define the Reiner and bertodlt reveal and if this had the same it wouldn’t have the impact.
youseebiggirl would be absolutely unsuitable, people imagine this moment to be like the reiner and bertholdt reveal
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue
Jan 10, 2021 8:08 AM

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This remind me of season 3 part 2 where some users were disappointed with the ost used for the beast titan vs levi fight. Dejavu.

But it still didn't stop it from becoming one of the most loved episode in attack on titan.
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yaegerist-15 said:
dmphatic23 said:

That’s the problem.
Mappa doesn’t care that u imagined this one particular scene so many times with the same ost for so long that you were bound to be disappointed.
Anyways I kinda guessed youseebiggirl wasn’t gonna get used since I believe let that ost define the Reiner and bertodlt reveal and if this had the same it wouldn’t have the impact.
youseebiggirl would be absolutely unsuitable, people imagine this moment to be like the reiner and bertholdt reveal


IMO, the OST which was used was perfect. youseebiggirl has lot of lyrics, which wouldn't have made sense in such a rapid paced scene lol.
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dmphatic23 said:
armchair3 said:
I honestly do not like the ending scene. As a manga reader, I'm suggesting to anime-online to see the fananimations for chapter 100.
7/10

That’s the problem.
Mappa doesn’t care that u imagined this one particular scene so many times with the same ost for so long that you were bound to be disappointed.
Anyways I kinda guessed youseebiggirl wasn’t gonna get used since I believe let that ost define the Reiner and bertodlt reveal and if this had the same it wouldn’t have the impact.


Its not just the choice of OST, the animation felt meh. Forget fan animations on YouTube for a moment and go watch the video of those scenes used in booths they set up in Japan last year. The impact is so much more. There's no excuse for what MAPPA and the sound directors did to this crucial episode.
Jan 10, 2021 8:08 AM

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Reiners voice actor almost made me cry
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Its now my favourite ep in aot and one of my favourite in the medium.
Jan 10, 2021 8:09 AM
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keragamming said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


Funny thing is the ost choice has nothing to do with Mappa as the sound director is the one that choose which soundtrack to use, meaning this would be the same ost we would get if Wit studio was still in charge.

This fate was still regardless of who animated snk, so persons ready to attack Mappa need to keep that in mind.

wrong
The music choice is done by sound director,episode director and seeies director.among this three episode director has the most influence.
Your claim about "just sound director" is wrong but i agree with you,this ep had a strong music choice
Jan 10, 2021 8:10 AM

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i always keep my expectation in check but i have to say the music choice when eren transforming was really underwhelming for me.

overall still great, though could have been better

Jan 10, 2021 8:11 AM
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Such a great episode! My only complain would be the last ost can be a little bit more intense, aside from that i’m really happy with the adaptation for this episode. I disagree with people who wanted youseebiggirl ost for the climax ost, it wouldnt fit because it’s more of a hype ost rather than despair yet intense ost.
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keragamming said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


Funny thing is the ost choice has nothing to do with Mappa as the sound director is the one that choose which soundtrack to use, meaning this would be the same ost we would get if Wit studio was still in charge.

This fate was still regardless of who animated snk, so persons ready to attack Mappa need to keep that in mind.
I can't believe people are actually saying the animation is dodgy and bad man. If anything it looked top tier and they also improved the eren eye glow from the preview
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xenosys said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


I agree. I think too many people are thinking of phenomenal OST's from Sawano and putting them in that scene without giving too much thought about how it fits.

YouSeeBigGirl would not have fit with the mood and tension created in that scene at all. Although, I must admit the re-arrangement of XL-TT was used unbelievably well.


The fanmade animation and manga motion videos didn't help also, as persons came accustom with those new soundtrack in that particular scene to the point if anything else used will feel foreign to them.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.

Maybe the ost used wasn't bad itself (I think it's bad). But the choice of the ost for the scene was surely bad.
Jan 10, 2021 8:13 AM

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mab03 said:
keragamming said:


Funny thing is the ost choice has nothing to do with Mappa as the sound director is the one that choose which soundtrack to use, meaning this would be the same ost we would get if Wit studio was still in charge.

This fate was still regardless of who animated snk, so persons ready to attack Mappa need to keep that in mind.

wrong
The music choice is done by sound director,episode director and seeies director.among this three episode director has the most influence.
Your claim about "just sound director" is wrong but i agree with you,this ep had a strong music choice


From what I have heard the sound director is the one that made the final decision and a lot of the staff members say he is scary, this was told through an interview, so it seems he has the most power.

But I could be wrong.
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keragamming said:
xenosys said:


I agree. I think too many people are thinking of phenomenal OST's from Sawano and putting them in that scene without giving too much thought about how it fits.

YouSeeBigGirl would not have fit with the mood and tension created in that scene at all. Although, I must admit the re-arrangement of XL-TT was used unbelievably well.


The fanmade animation and manga motion videos didn't help also, as persons came accustom with those new soundtrack in that particular scene to the point if anything else used will feel foreign to them.


I've seen most of them Youtube, and most of them feel out of place. People were also overlaying other OST's when the Beast Titan and Levi were fighting and it also felt ham-fisted.
Jan 10, 2021 8:15 AM

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keragamming said:
This remind me of season 3 part 2 where some users were disappointed with the ost used for the beast titan vs levi fight. Dejavu.

But it still didn't stop it from becoming one of the most loved episode in attack on titan.


That was saved by the phenomenal animation. Also, Levi is always hype. None of which are the case here.
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tirthasg said:
dmphatic23 said:

That’s the problem.
Mappa doesn’t care that u imagined this one particular scene so many times with the same ost for so long that you were bound to be disappointed.
Anyways I kinda guessed youseebiggirl wasn’t gonna get used since I believe let that ost define the Reiner and bertodlt reveal and if this had the same it wouldn’t have the impact.


Its not just the choice of OST, the animation felt meh. Forget fan animations on YouTube for a moment and go watch the video of those scenes used in booths they set up in Japan last year. The impact is so much more. There's no excuse for what MAPPA and the sound directors did to this crucial episode.
What animation do you want? It's a TALKING episode.
Alpha_Druid said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.

Maybe the ost used wasn't bad itself (I think it's bad). But the choice of the ost for the scene was surely bad.
Understandable, but I disagree. I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked.
Jan 10, 2021 8:16 AM

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I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


THIS. Thanks for saying it out loud.
Jan 10, 2021 8:16 AM

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I am a bit dissappointed tbh . Personally I thought the OST was fine , but it could have been much better honestly . They even skipped some panels of Eren's titan and Eren's model was inconsistent . It was overall pretty good nonetheless . If they didn't use the leaked OST here , where will they use it then ? They better use it in the upcoming episodes .


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Jan 10, 2021 8:20 AM
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Selenehakz said:
Such a great episode! My only complain would be the last ost can be a little bit more intense, aside from that i’m really happy with the adaptation for this episode. I disagree with people who wanted youseebiggirl ost for the climax ost, it wouldnt fit because it’s more of a hype ost rather than despair yet intense ost.



Same thoughts here as well. I wouldn't prefer YOUSEEBIGGIRL at this scene. Im preferibg to hear the New ost that Samuelkim Made a cover of it. That would be way better ost than this one. What im dislik8ng is that ost is already assosiated with Levi VS Zeke fight and its already for that iconic moment. Why the sound director didn't put New ost to make New iconic moment rather than just put this ost all over again?. I loves the episode very much dont get me all wrong, but didn't like the final ost.
Jan 10, 2021 8:21 AM

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The episode should be edited according to the music not the other way around.

This is the case for the phenomenal S2 E6. When the music is slow they show the flashbacks. When the music was ramping up, they showed the transformation. There are many more things that went into making that scene practically perfect but the music played a huge role.
Jan 10, 2021 8:21 AM
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Alright so here are my thoughts about this episode:

Yes, the music in the final scene could have been more impactful but I did like the track that they used and the transformation sequence was amazing. Don't get me wrong. The only reason people are disappointed by it is because they spend years thinking about all the hype tracks that would suit this incredible moment and overhyping the shit out of this scene. We are just going to set ourselves for disappointment and the results would have been the same if Wit was still helming the series. Also I never thought YOUSEEBIGGIRL was a suitable choice for this moment and not to mention that track should only be associated with Reiner and Bertholdt's transformation sequence. Using it again would have taken away the magic of that moment. I personally would have liked it if they used the leaked track that we got two weeks ago but oh well. Some of the facial shots also looked a bit weird. Not completely jarring but it was slightly noticeable. Eren looked like he's completely dead inside and I feel like they could have done a better job emphasizing the little strand of humanity that he still has left. I watched the episode with the manga right beside me and he actually showed a lot of expressions which was mostly absent here. Reiner's VA did a great job though.

Overall, a fantastic episode. Could it have been better? Absolutely. But that criticism can very well be applied for any Adaptations.
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shingojira-chan said:
I am a bit dissappointed tbh . Personally I thought the OST was fine , but it could have been much better honestly . They even skipped some panels of Eren's titan and Eren's model was inconsistent . It was overall pretty good nonetheless . If they didn't use the leaked OST here , where will they use it then ? They better use it in the upcoming episodes .
Surely they didn't create it for it to not be used. People just set themselves up for disappointment by imagining scenes with certain OSTs and it turns out it's not used.
Jan 10, 2021 8:22 AM

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Eren did nothing wrong starts now huh

and i did not see the suppose 3DCG cut of Attack Titan lol i guess there is none
but off-model drawings are a lot in this episode and the usual average to stiff animation
overall good enough


The last cut where the Attack Titan moves was certainly CG


well i only watch a low quality stream so maybe thats why i missed it

will check again when subs are out
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keragamming said:
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wrong
The music choice is done by sound director,episode director and seeies director.among this three episode director has the most influence.
Your claim about "just sound director" is wrong but i agree with you,this ep had a strong music choice


From what I have heard the sound director is the one that made the final decision and a lot of the staff members say he is scary, this was told through an interview, so it seems he has the most power.

But I could be wrong.

What i know is that sound director and ep director choose the music for parts and then series director check their final choice and change it if it does not match with his standards.
A few month ago the sound director tweeted that his music choice had not been confirmed by hayashi so he had to do it again.
The easiest way to deny your claim is comparing the music choice from the different animes that the sound director has worked.the difference between some of them is huge.
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shingojira-chan said:
I am a bit dissappointed tbh . Personally I thought the OST was fine , but it could have been much better honestly . They even skipped some panels of Eren's titan and Eren's model was inconsistent . It was overall pretty good nonetheless . If they didn't use the leaked OST here , where will they use it then ? They better use it in the upcoming episodes .

That ost was never leaked actually it was just used in the background of a livestream that was done so it’s not necessary that ost even be a part of the show.
Samuel Kim as rightly pointed out in description and in the comment section that he made his own take of how much they put in the background of the livestream never being sure if it will be used in this scene.
Man people really hyped themselves up for failure but I have a feeling anime-on lies gonna enjoy this more than the manga readers because they made their expectations from fan animations.
Jan 10, 2021 8:27 AM
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Its not just the choice of OST, the animation felt meh. Forget fan animations on YouTube for a moment and go watch the video of those scenes used in booths they set up in Japan last year. The impact is so much more. There's no excuse for what MAPPA and the sound directors did to this crucial episode.
What animation do you want? It's a TALKING episode.
Alpha_Druid said:

Maybe the ost used wasn't bad itself (I think it's bad). But the choice of the ost for the scene was surely bad.
Understandable, but I disagree. I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked.


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
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Absolutely loved this episode 10/10.
The preview for the next one tho... not gonna lie, looks really bad

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I won't say bad but looks kinda stiff
Jan 10, 2021 8:30 AM

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dicecop said:
I know I should have kept my expectations low but man, they really didn't do the ending justice at all. Not to mention that they are aparently going for a monotone, dead inside Eren. They didn't even attempt to convey his emotions other than the single smile towards the end. Meh. Mappa not so goat this week


Tbh he looked pretty dead inside as well in the manga.
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So much better than the trash we had to watch!
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the edit is def better
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keragamming said:
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wrong
The music choice is done by sound director,episode director and seeies director.among this three episode director has the most influence.
Your claim about "just sound director" is wrong but i agree with you,this ep had a strong music choice


From what I have heard the sound director is the one that made the final decision and a lot of the staff members say he is scary, this was told through an interview, so it seems he has the most power.

But I could be wrong.


The sound director recomends the ost but at the end it's up to hayashi and epsiode director to approve
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This is much better . I should have kept my expectations low I guess .


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keragamming said:
This remind me of season 3 part 2 where some users were disappointed with the ost used for the beast titan vs levi fight. Dejavu.

But it still didn't stop it from becoming one of the most loved episode in attack on titan.

Yeah, that's true. I put the manga on hold for that season. I remember reading similar comments on the discussion, but I couldn't stop gushing waterfalls at that fight lol. I think this is the same ost as well.

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This episode was awesome. I can feel the intensity throughout the episode. Willy's speech was done beautifully. Reiner's VA done a fantastic job. Eren's transformation was just amazing. Great adaptation I absolutely loved the episode. Thank you Mappa.

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I_Am_Freeballing said:
Just because you fapped to YOUSEEBIGGIRL or the leaked OST too much doesn't mean the one used was bad. Mappa's OST choices in this ep were phenomenal. You wanting a different song is on you.


THANK YOU! I'm reading through these to see if the episode is good, and all this negativity kills the hype. It always kills the hype. I thought every episode so far was amazing, even after reading negative stuff. I'll stop at your reply here, and keep the positivity in mind until I finally watch the episode.
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shingojira-chan said:

This is much better . I should have kept my expectations low I guess .
yeah at least the animation was fucking epic at the transformation scene. I didn't know what to expect on how it looks
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tirthasg said:


So much better than the trash we had to watch!

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.
Jan 10, 2021 8:38 AM

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Krugerman said:

keragamming said:


From what I have heard the sound director is the one that made the final decision and a lot of the staff members say he is scary, this was told through an interview, so it seems he has the most power.

But I could be wrong.


The sound director recomends the ost but at the end it's up to hayashi and epsiode director to approve


And based off the interview they respect/are scared of him lol so whatever he says they will probably nod their head and approve anyways.
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Again it was never a leaked ost and we don’t even know if the arrangement made by Samuel Kim would have turned out to be the same as what is made.
As he himself said he made it to his taste and assumed it would have been used here.
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Such a great episode! My only complain would be the last ost can be a little bit more intense, aside from that i’m really happy with the adaptation for this episode. I disagree with people who wanted youseebiggirl ost for the climax ost, it wouldnt fit because it’s more of a hype ost rather than despair yet intense ost.



Same thoughts here as well. I wouldn't prefer YOUSEEBIGGIRL at this scene. Im preferibg to hear the New ost that Samuelkim Made a cover of it. That would be way better ost than this one. What im dislik8ng is that ost is already assosiated with Levi VS Zeke fight and its already for that iconic moment. Why the sound director didn't put New ost to make New iconic moment rather than just put this ost all over again?. I loves the episode very much dont get me all wrong, but didn't like the final ost.


Oh that new ost, I think it’s gonna used for ch 120+ because of how suspenseful it is. And I didnt even know it was Levi vs Zeke ost :”D and yeah i can agree with you that it might be better to use new ost though i wont blame the sound director since it’s pretty hard to fit an intense ost into a scene started as slow-motion then immediately became action. Still overall i think it doesn’t completely destroy the hype.
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mab03 said:
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So much better than the trash we had to watch!

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.

Hmmm isn't trash an opinion as well ?


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I'm positive that next ep will start off with eren transforming with a diff ost
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mab03 said:
tirthasg said:


So much better than the trash we had to watch!

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.


Okay you are being a bit hypocritical there. You just said everyone had a right to their opinion and his opinion was that it was trash. Let him be like that. What matters is what we think about this moment.
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mab03 said:
tirthasg said:


So much better than the trash we had to watch!

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.


Apologies for offending you. I might have put it a bit too harshly. But honestly, I'm struggling to get over the disappointment. Oh well.
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Sigh...
The preview isn't that good either . As expected , transformation of the Warhammer looked better in the PV . Eren's titan as well .
Wow I guess you guys can't handle criticism .


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