My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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2shizukasensei88 said: I see you have both Oregairu LN and Hachiman in your favourites tho.Because of this piece of animated media, being quite popular, the influx of people who are watching doesn't seem experienced with deeper media, so basically the majority who watched this show, mostly watches normcore shows, so the deepest media they have consumed, is this shit. Don't get me wrong, I like this shit too, but this is not the deepest shit ever, and here's why. Flaws people over look. 1.Too much pandering. 2.Highschool Bullshit. 3.Average Heroines (Saki, Haruno, and Sensei has better chemistry with Hachiman, than the 3 main girls). 4.The MC is a mega simp. 5.Romance is average. 6.Cringe sometimes. This show (LN) is basically don't act like a retard (Yukino and Hachiman), and the shit that happen at highschool doesn't matter, take it easy. (Edit) Lmao ok, I'll probably make an essay or text video 2007 tutorial style, I'll do either one at the end of the season (mostly so your memory can refershed, and you'll see my point). Are you baiting us? Be honest. |
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Minar-kyun said: 2shizukasensei88 said: I see you have both Oregairu LN and Hachiman in your favourites tho.Because of this piece of animated media, being quite popular, the influx of people who are watching doesn't seem experienced with deeper media, so basically the majority who watched this show, mostly watches normcore shows, so the deepest media they have consumed, is this shit. Don't get me wrong, I like this shit too, but this is not the deepest shit ever, and here's why. Flaws people over look. 1.Too much pandering. 2.Highschool Bullshit. 3.Average Heroines (Saki, Haruno, and Sensei has better chemistry with Hachiman, than the 3 main girls). 4.The MC is a mega simp. 5.Romance is average. 6.Cringe sometimes. This show (LN) is basically don't act like a retard (Yukino and Hachiman), and the shit that happen at highschool doesn't matter, take it easy. (Edit) Lmao ok, I'll probably make an essay or text video 2007 tutorial style, I'll do either one at the end of the season (mostly so your memory can refershed, and you'll see my point). Are you baiting us? Be honest. Nah, I'm just pointing my biggest problems with this series. |
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2shizukasensei88 said: Well the flaws you mentioned (other than the simp one and calling heroines average), I don't disagree with them. But then again that's how a high school romantic comedy series is supposed to be. So it's perfect the way it is.Minar-kyun said: I see you have both Oregairu LN and Hachiman in your favourites tho. Are you baiting us? Be honest. Nah, I'm just pointing my biggest problems with this series. Firstly, too much pandering. --Yep. But kids likes pandering in their adolescence, right? I dunno. Secondly, highchool bullshit. --What else did you expect lol. It's a high school rom-com to begin with. Thirdly, average heroines. --While I do agree that Saki, Haruno and Sensei are interesting characters, Iroha too. I can't agree with main heroines being average. They have their own unique personality, situation and character development. Fourthly, the MC is a mega simp. --No he isn't. He used to be simp during his junior high days lol. When he had a crush on Orimoto. Right now there's no way you can call him simp. Fifthly, the romance is average. --If we are talking about romance in "anime", then of course it's better than many other romance shows out there. The romance would pale in comparison to other mediums tho. Like serious novels or other literature works. But that's not what we are talking about here. So in conclusion the romance is really good considering it's an anime. Finally, cringe sometimes. --You said it. Which high school romance show isn't cringe? Heck even remembering my own high school experiences makes me cringe so hard. |
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Minar-kyun said: Well the flaws you mentioned (other than the simp one and calling heroines average), I don't disagree with them. But then again that's how a high school romantic comedy series is supposed to be. So it's perfect the way it is. Firstly, too much pandering. --Yep. But kids likes pandering in their adolescence, right? I dunno. Secondly, highchool bullshit. --What else did you expect lol. It's a high school rom-com to begin with. Thirdly, average heroines. --While I do agree that Saki, Haruno and Sensei are interesting characters, Iroha too. I can't agree with main heroines being average. They have their own unique personality, situation and character development. Fourthly, the MC is a mega simp. --No he isn't. He used to be simp during his junior high days lol. When he had a crush on Orimoto. Right now there's no way you can call him simp. Fifthly, the romance is average. --If we are talking about romance in "anime", then of course it's better than many other romance shows out there. The romance would pale in comparison to other mediums tho. Like serious novels or other literature works. But that's not what we are talking about here. So in conclusion the romance is really good considering it's an anime. Finally, cringe sometimes. --You said it. Which high school romance show isn't cringe? Heck even remembering my own high school experiences makes me cringe so hard. No point in arguing with a troll man. he gave 0 explanations with his side. it's really just a waste of your time. |
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| I think Komachi, who has a very deep plot, if you can describe it clearly, then you can see that Komachi who best understands the nature of social relations. let's say Komachi is in the position of Yukinoshita's life. How does this character solve his own problems? it was clear that this was an easy thing for Komachi, because the concept in Oregairu's story was a matter of social relations including the differences between the two parties' decisions and how to respond to their own destiny. Komachi has a broad standard of life, therefore Komachi is able to melt into situations similar to the life of his own brother, because Hachiman is not the type of person who can be persuaded to expose his social nature. A unique characteristic, Komachi is a kind of anti-dramatic, easy & simple. Komachi does not have philosophical thoughts like those of Hachiman & Yukinoshita, or the pessimistic nature of Yui, so that is making no distraction in overcoming life's problems, assuming that whatever the problem is there is still a way to overcome it, & by the end that it will definitely be okay. |
2shizukasensei88 said: Flaws people over look. 1.Too much pandering. 2.Highschool Bullshit. 3.Average Heroines (Saki, Haruno, and Sensei has better chemistry with Hachiman, than the 3 main girls). 4.The MC is a mega simp. 5.Romance is average. 6.Cringe sometimes. I'm just gonna go down the list and say what I think about your thoughts on each point. 1. Pandering, well certain situations, yes. But this is season 3. I don't remember much pandering in the past seasons so the panderings here, I see it as a resolution to the past. 2. Pretty much true. I mean, it is set in HS. I would be surprised if it didn't include High School stuff. 3. Not sure what to say here. I "feel" (pun intended for the studio) like the heroines feel natural even though they fall into some common tropes like tsun. 4. I 100% disagree. Hachiman is almost the definition for anti-simp. He shows high regards and expectations for Yukino and rightfully so. Yukino is theoretically in a higher stature than Yui or Hikigaya. I can see why Hikigaya would speak highly of her. He doesn't really just bow down to her. He literally challenges her. I know it's years ago, but Hachiman even gave the nice girls speech in S1. That's pretty anti-simp. 5. There's barely romance to begin with. From the very first season, it's about social situations and how you approach them while finding people that care about you and try to correct toxic approaches along the way. Saying "romance is average" is fine, but if you watch this expecting romance, you're wrong as you should have expected. The title is literally that. It's a play on the romcom genre. 6. It's anime. There's always going to be some cringe factored in there. P.S. The word simp is so overused nowadays if a man shows slight interest or regard to a woman. |
| I can agree with the OPs opinion. Personally I like the previous 2 seasons. (Scored them 8 but not extremely high.) It is easy to watch and feels nice - from the atmosphere and the char and the little arcs. Different from forced or prolonged romance (shoujo romance often creates forced misunderstandings so the chars can't get to gether). Here we have it feeling more natural - with their different personalities. Not really something where I'd say it is "deep" and I had a hard time getting back into it in season 3. Cause I didn't rewatch the previous seaons (last time I saw them was when they aired). I remember the chars ... but the conflicts and what happened ... missing a bit in my memory. I might end up with an 8/10 again if it gets better and some good conflicts and drama and a real end. |
| It is not about being deep; it is about having fun with bombastic dialogue. The classroom is a feudal society. If you try to message a girl, you will get a reply from a foreigner called MAILER-DAEMON. We need to transparently crystallize our manifesto and use LOGICAL THINKING when we logically think about things. Being philosophical isn't about depth anyway. It is about logical, argumentative, and conceptual accuracy. Those things may sound boring to some people, but that is how it is. If you study philosophy to learn The Objective, Universal Meaning of Life, you will end up disappointed. I am not implying that Oregairu is particularly philosophical; I am just clarifying the general point. |
blessofcurse said: There was no progression between the characters involved romantically. It is not even clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines tbh and I cant see him pursuing romance. So yeah Oregairu is far from romance. I know shipping is a thing. Welp didn't see this response lol. "There was no progression between the characters involved romantically": This is half-true I guess. Romantic progress has been rather slow, subtle, and very much limited for the most part. But this doesn't mean that there hasn't been any progress. It's just that the primary focus of the story was on the service club members developing friendships in the earlier parts of the story. The focus began shifting towards romance near the very end of season 2, and said romance is definitely gonna be addressed in season 3. As a result, it most certainly comes under the romance genre for me. "It is not clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines": This is not a necessity in romance shows though. Usually in a romantic story, at least one side of a prospective couple has their feelings unclear up until some point closer to the ending. Especially common in harems. "I cant see him pursuing romance": Pffft stop. |
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apollojeez said: blessofcurse said: There was no progression between the characters involved romantically. It is not even clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines tbh and I cant see him pursuing romance. So yeah Oregairu is far from romance. I know shipping is a thing. Welp didn't see this response lol. "There was no progression between the characters involved romantically": This is half-true I guess. Romantic progress has been rather slow, subtle, and very much limited for the most part. But this doesn't mean that there hasn't been any progress. It's just that the primary focus of the story was on the service club members developing friendships in the earlier parts of the story. The focus began shifting towards romance near the very end of season 2, and said romance is definitely gonna be addressed in season 3. As a result, it most certainly comes under the romance genre for me. "It is not clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines": This is not a necessity in romance shows though. Usually in a romantic story, at least one side of a prospective couple has their feelings unclear up until some point closer to the ending. Especially common in harems. "I cant see him pursuing romance": Pffft stop. i so agree with you. Not every romance anime has to be super obvious. Sometimes, the subtlty and slow progress between the MC and the heroines can be very enjoyable. |
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DangV3 said: i so agree with you. Not every romance anime has to be super obvious. Sometimes, the subtlty and slow progress between the MC and the heroines can be very enjoyable. Pretty much! If anything, I prefer the romance that develops slowly and with subtlety. There may not be too many romantic or fluffy moments between characters compared to most romance stories but overall the romance feels more authentic. |
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apollojeez said: blessofcurse said: There was no progression between the characters involved romantically. It is not even clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines tbh and I cant see him pursuing romance. So yeah Oregairu is far from romance. I know shipping is a thing. Welp didn't see this response lol. "There was no progression between the characters involved romantically": This is half-true I guess. Romantic progress has been rather slow, subtle, and very much limited for the most part. But this doesn't mean that there hasn't been any progress. It's just that the primary focus of the story was on the service club members developing friendships in the earlier parts of the story. The focus began shifting towards romance near the very end of season 2, and said romance is definitely gonna be addressed in season 3. As a result, it most certainly comes under the romance genre for me. "It is not clear if the mc is in love with any of the heroines": This is not a necessity in romance shows though. Usually in a romantic story, at least one side of a prospective couple has their feelings unclear up until some point closer to the ending. Especially common in harems. "I cant see him pursuing romance": Pffft stop. Lmao subtlety. Leave it to the viewers to dream on. If that is your standard to consider anime a romance then 80-90% of should be a romance. I guess Trigun should also be consider a romance since the short haired girl seems to develop some feeling to Vash even though it was one sided. Well atleast in the 1st 2 seasons Oregairu is far from romance.Probably the only reason people call it romance because it has romance in title and people love to ship. So i guess we can just be contented with some subtlety or some blush of the characters here and there to consider anime a romance. Is it a REAL romance or maybe some little pandering? |
blessofcurse said: Lmao subtlety. Leave it to the viewers to dream on. If that is your standard to consider anime a romance then 80-90% of should be a romance. I guess Trigun should also be consider a romance since the short haired girl seems to develop some feeling to Vash even though it was one sided. Well atleast in the 1st 2 seasons Oregairu is far from romance.Probably the only reason people call it romance because it has romance in title and people love to ship. So i guess we can just be contented with some subtlety or some blush of the characters here and there to consider anime a romance. Is it a REAL romance or maybe some little pandering? My points are completely flying over your head at this point. What I said about subtlety was used to deny your claim that there has been no romantic progression. I later went on to add that romance is something that becomes more and more significant as the story goes along, and will be a major aspect in season 3 as it already became the focus of the story near the end of season 2. If this was not the case, then I'd agree with you. But you completely ignored that part of my point and pretended as if I mean to say that any vague and subtle romance in the background allows a story to be considered as romance. And please stop being ridiculous with your "REAL romance" stuff. I'm not sure how you think romance works in real life but Oregairu does a great job (albeit far from perfect) at depicting real romantic developments between people when you compare it to most anime shows. If what you mean by "REAL romance" is just romance that is more in your face and more obvious to the viewers, then you need to find a new way of referring to this. At the end of the day, it's absolutely fine if you don't consider Oregairu to be a romance show. But don't also sit there and pretend that what you look for in romance shows is "REAL romance" when in all likelihood you probably look for "more obvious and blatant romance." |
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| Well I don't think Oregairu is a kind of romanticism because romance is an exception for Hachiman However, there are still opportunities for Yukinoshita and Yui, but the problem is that the logical think of Yukinoshita, if Yukinoshita has an open nature then there is opportunity to change Hachiman , even Yui is also affected by Yukinoshita ideological attitude , But the only character who can change it, is Yui, because Yui is normal person, Yui can just say her feelings to Hachiman, then the game of this philosophical will end, because Yukinoshita will also be affected |
| You just don't get it. Seems like an opinion of someone who hasn't been in a relationship before. |
apollojeez said: blessofcurse said: Lmao subtlety. Leave it to the viewers to dream on. If that is your standard to consider anime a romance then 80-90% of should be a romance. I guess Trigun should also be consider a romance since the short haired girl seems to develop some feeling to Vash even though it was one sided. Well atleast in the 1st 2 seasons Oregairu is far from romance.Probably the only reason people call it romance because it has romance in title and people love to ship. So i guess we can just be contented with some subtlety or some blush of the characters here and there to consider anime a romance. Is it a REAL romance or maybe some little pandering? My points are completely flying over your head at this point. What I said about subtlety was used to deny your claim that there has been no romantic progression. I later went on to add that romance is something that becomes more and more significant as the story goes along, and will be a major aspect in season 3 as it already became the focus of the story near the end of season 2. If this was not the case, then I'd agree with you. But you completely ignored that part of my point and pretended as if I mean to say that any vague and subtle romance in the background allows a story to be considered as romance. And please stop being ridiculous with your "REAL romance" stuff. I'm not sure how you think romance works in real life but Oregairu does a great job (albeit far from perfect) at depicting real romantic developments between people when you compare it to most anime shows. If what you mean by "REAL romance" is just romance that is more in your face and more obvious to the viewers, then you need to find a new way of referring to this. At the end of the day, it's absolutely fine if you don't consider Oregairu to be a romance show. But don't also sit there and pretend that what you look for in romance shows is "REAL romance" when in all likelihood you probably look for "more obvious and blatant romance." Romance development in Oregairu? There is no such thing. Lol I dont mean to say it need to be more obvious. Oregairu is just not the proper anime for people who wants a romance. As you can see many people are disappointed about the "romance" in it, there are some threads about it here in MAL. Okay im done here, no point arguing with some hardcore fans. Maybe I should also consider Gundam 00 a romance because it has more development than Oregairu. Hmnnn... |
| Gonna be honest. Thats how the story felt to me during season 2 with all the vagueness and melodrama (the topic title I mean). And it still feels like that. |
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| I don't see why anyone would think Oregairu is deep. It's just a romantic comedy/SoL like anything else you see. It just happens to be very well written and one of the best to fans of the genre. |
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| Imo the anime fail to bring the best in LN, but it’s still good anime but not the best adaptation. |
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