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| Imagine watching Vinland Saga, a show that has up till now has repeated again and again that "you shouldn't talk about killing so lightly", and then rage-commenting here that characters "should just kill other characters and be done with it". LMAO I'm just... Some of these reactions show perfectly what the show is saying: so many people think so little of implications of violence. Another example of this is the amount of people that couldn't understand why Thors traded his sheep and saved a fellow human being (who happened to be a slave) in the earlier episode from literally getting tortured to death. This show has a moral compass, it tells you that human suffering is the one thing that should be avoided at all costs, and Thors' comment that he had to rely on his sword because he is not a master, shows that he is VERY MUCH AWARE that he lacks the power and mastery of stopping someone like Askeladd from harming people without harming him back. All in all, Thors managed to solve this horrible situation by losing only 1 life, his own. It's the best he could've hoped for. Killing Askeladd's team to stop them from killing men in the future was also not an option, as someone already commented about the archers who would certainly kill the innocent villager kids if Thors had tried to do that. So imo he made the right call. Call Askeladd a shrewd man who lacks morals, but at least he recognized Thors as someone admirable. Everything in this episode showed you that he hated the idea of having to kill Thors: from inviting him as a leader (he was clearly serious, you can see the feel of rejection on his face before he saves himself from humiliation by telling his men he was merely joking), to sulking on the boat after he did his job. As some manga readers have mentioned before, if you aren't prepared to actually think about the themes this show mentions (pacifism, the harm of glorifying violence, and valuing human life above all else), you're going to have a very rough time after this first season. Because this show actually isn't afraid to have a message. smh. |
| Even now, Thorfinn is edgy af, really hate those kind of brats... well. And I have a hunch he would be even worse when he grows up. Vengeance or whatnot... Anyway, the best character is now officially gone. He fought well, even gave us his long speech before death. The scene where even Askelddad was sitting disappointed, thinking what a shame such man had to die, feeling no pleasure or satisfaction in what he did was a great one. The only thing that I really missed at the end of this episode was Thors closing his eyes and looking at golden fields in the wind at his mind, like in the beginning when that runaway died, that would be perfect. |
| Really felt Thorfinn's emotion through that animation. Fantastic episode. |
| Breakthrough performance on episode 4 of for Ishigami Shizuka! DAMN! 5/5. |
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| What a waste. Thors was really strong but he didn't killed anyone. Welp, Edgy Kid Saga starts now |
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Kean said: Amazing episode.The series will begin now! Anyone who knows the title of the next episode? Episode 5 title: 戦鬼(トロル)の子 (Thors` child) |
| This episode was really good! |
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IRON_FIST1984 said: I think you should read/watch more historical manga/anime. A superhuman character is pretty common in historical manga/anime.is that a fantasy show or an historical show? how can a man break a ship with iron weapons? |
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Shirai-chan said: What a waste. Thors was really strong but he didn't killed anyone. Welp, Edgy Kid Saga starts now Worry not, next arc will be more like Askeladd saga ;) |
| great execution with strong moral and belief about warrior and real man |
 MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate Your taste is trash. Cope, seethe, mald |
Mattinator95 said: i heard its going to be anime original Looks like it is. :( |
| Thorfinn should transfrom into titan... |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| It's well made- I can't really point out any flaws. However it leaves a rather unpleasant feeling rather than catharsis |
Daniel_Naumov said: Callesthe said: Imagine watching Vinland Saga, a show that has up till now has repeated again and again that "you shouldn't talk about killing so lightly", and then rage-commenting here that characters "should just kill other characters and be done with it". LMAO I'm just... Some of these reactions show perfectly what the show is saying: so many people think so little of implications of violence. Another example of this is the amount of people that couldn't understand why Thors traded his sheep and saved a fellow human being (who happened to be a slave) in the earlier episode from literally getting tortured to death. This show has a moral compass, it tells you that human suffering is the one thing that should be avoided at all costs, and Thors' comment that he had to rely on his sword because he is not a master, shows that he is VERY MUCH AWARE that he lacks the power and mastery of stopping someone like Askeladd from harming people without harming him back. All in all, Thors managed to solve this horrible situation by losing only 1 life, his own. It's the best he could've hoped for. Killing Askeladd's team to stop them from killing men in the future was also not an option, as someone already commented about the archers who would certainly kill the innocent villager kids if Thors had tried to do that. So imo he made the right call. Call Askeladd a shrewd man who lacks morals, but at least he recognized Thors as someone admirable. Everything in this episode showed you that he hated the idea of having to kill Thors: from inviting him as a leader (he was clearly serious, you can see the feel of rejection on his face before he saves himself from humiliation by telling his men he was merely joking), to sulking on the boat after he did his job. As some manga readers have mentioned before, if you aren't prepared to actually think about the themes this show mentions (pacifism, the harm of glorifying violence, and valuing human life above all else), you're going to have a very rough time after this first season. Because this show actually isn't afraid to have a message. smh. Teaching Americans/westerners about violence not being a virtue? Sa-vage. Befitting of a show about Vikings, isn't it? Though somehow I believe this point will fly over 90% of the watchers head despite it being mentioned in literally every episode. It happened to the manga, and it'll happen again to the anime if we'll get a season after this. Arethusa_Vespera said: It's blatantly clear from episode one that this was going to be a >>dramatized<< telling of Thorfinn's and Thors's life. The mangaka did a lot of research to keep the setting, clothes, etc. as historically accurate as possible, but at the end of the day, this is an ANIME, A. N. I. M.E. Having super-human characters and near-impossible scenarios are common in these types of mangas/shows. Why? Because at the end of the day media like this is meant to entertain the audience, not bore them. We're here to watch an anime, NOT a historical documentary. Jeez. While I agree with most of your reply, I think the 'over exaggeration' of some of the powers of characters is probably the most valid critique I've seen on this show thus far. Meticulous detail went in to making the setting, characters and tone of the story realistic. I can see how the more silly exaggerations like characters jumping 10 ft into the air could break some peoples suspension of disbelief. Honestly I really don't care much about it because Vinland Saga isn't really about the battles anyway, and it's also not like Thors' fate would've been any different would he not be able to jump 10 ft. So yeah, if one wishes to nitpick, I guess this would be valid. It always makes me chuckle though, it's really like those old sagas to over-exaggerate "how great this warrior was", so I take it as a nod to that type of storytelling. |
| Everything was intense with this episode, cant wait to see the next one. |
| Phenomenal episode! Thor's death is so well-done that I was left breathless during the whole scene. I understand where Askeladd's coming from for bending the rules of the duel, and his smackdown of Arin is oddly satisfying lol. The fact that Thorfinn is able to shake up Askeladd's men with his anger, coupled with the amazing performance of his seiyuu, gives me chills. Only four episodes out, yet I'm already hoping WIT will be able to adapt the entire manga like what they're doing with SnK. |
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| I'm just speechless *cries in a corner* |
| This unfortunate event was one of the few things i previously knew from the manga. I like how Thors kept living up to his ideals until the end. Askeladd is a prick but he still got some honor. Also, ｋｅｉｋａｋｕ everywhere |
Switch_ZAug 7, 2019 12:37 PM
Aim1rR said: Idk Thors's scene was really amazing :( Thorfinn he could be great fighter like her father but i realize this is all Thors's resposnbility if he didn't die, Her village will be exposure attack, He Protected her family :< Finally someone who didn't blame Thorfinn and knows the consequences. |
| best episide so far, Thors is a fine ass character who had to die for his family and his village. What a man of honor he is! But i don't really like the kid and his developement seems very shounen. 5/5 |
| Thors was a pretty generic martyr, easy to see this coming but dam. Just like Ned Stark, it hurts |
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| Amazing episode. Thors was one hell of a great man, but he was too good for this world after all. RIP My poor boi Thorfinn at the end tho, damn, that's some intense character development there. His father's death hit him hard. |
| Well, that was... anticlimactic to say the least. I mean, I was expecting Thors to die but the way how it happened was... I don't know, it just didn't leave an impact in me in the slightest. And so, this "prologue" comes to its end. Thors sure was a fascinating character but now that he's gone, it's time for Thorfinn's development to begin. By the way, I wonder how the studio will handle the next episodes since it seems they will mostly have original content. |
| I am kinda half-way sold. Little Eren was predictable and I really hate angry kids, but I hope it will grown on me, as some other anime did. Let's ride the hype I guess. Edit: I just realized she sounds more like Armin with Eren issues. Then I realized that angry boy voice annoys me because it's woman's. Also it's not Armin, but other VActress that voices some of my favorite girls. I am not sure if it ruined Thorfinn for me or Syr from Danmachi. |
Martin_TaylorAug 28, 2019 7:54 AM
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| I can't believe this was only episode 4, all the more fuel for my anticipation. |
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