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BestBoiEren said: And yet you post it in a place filled with fans. SubtleJ said: I don't go around posting "Cowboy is a terrible anime through and through. All of Shinichio Watanabe's works are garbage," and expect to get supportive messages. Just as you have the freedom to critique a show you dislike, other people have the freedom to critique your taste if they want to. yes, you have the rights to critique my opinion/taste, but I can't care less what fate fans think so theres that |
| I feel for Sakura, I really do, but they went overboard with her traumas and her past way too much on the graphic part. Certainly not my preference to watch animated erotic scenes while in the cinema. Yes I am awkward like that. While I did enjoy some of the nice Sakura on underwear stills (hell, some parts of the movie made me remember how kiasa doujins begin), I expected more explanations, more fights (way more fights) but it is obvious these movies are just for her and her horrible past. Great animation, not-so-great voice acting (Junichi Suwabe is the exception, as always doing a great job) and well, let's just say the two parts I enjoyed the most were Berserker vs Saber and Archer fights. Aimer song was okay. Still, I wouldn't recommend it to watch it in a cinema. 5/10 |
zerojMar 30, 2019 5:45 PM
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| The H-Scene totally caught me off guard. Sakura was horny as fuck in this movie. The fights were very entertainjng to watch but I stilld ont get the whole shadow thing, esprcially after having watched the first film a year ago. It was pretty weird to watch the h scene unfold in cinema but its a good thing not a lot of people were around. I guess its time to go explore those sakura doujins Shinji raping was fucked up good thing that piece of shit is dead. |
Zekerets said: BestBoiEren said: yes, you have the rights to critique my opinion/taste, but I can't care less what fate fans think so theres that You make all SNK fans look bad. If you hate something why bother spending so much time shitting on it and arguing with random people in the internet. I've seen you flaming around about this series on multiple fate related threads, it's like you have something with it personally and the same goes for other haters. Chill out dude. I mean I do, I wasted 24 x 20min of my life on ubw so ofc im pissed about it. |
| Just watched it in the theater earlier. I think watching it on the big screen was kinda meh. With all the stuff happening at night, I can't see some details most of the time. Especially the scenes in the Einzbern forest. I couldn't see much of the Archer vs Assassin part but from what little I saw, it was pretty great. Maybe it was just the theater where I watched it. Archer was the definition of badass in this route. He's pretty much the unsung hero. Of course the highlight was Berserker vs Saber Alter. The animation and choreography was godly. Megumin would be proud of all the explosions. Is it just me or did the rain scene felt cheesier than I remember? I know it was a very important scene for the route but I can't help but cringe at times. The brief Superhero sneak peak with white-haired Shirou looked cool as hell tho. Man I can't wait for Spring Song. I'm excited for all my favorite moments in the VN. The preview after the credits only adds to my excitement. |
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| Seeing Berserker vs Saber Alter on the big screen really is something quite amazing. |
| Word has been spreading that this movie has scenes that can be considered as the pinnacle of Japanese animation in current time. It certainly does. The Saber Alter vs Berserker scene is easily one of the best, if not the current best, action scene you can find in Japanese animation. It effortlessly finds its way into my "top anime fights" list. I am also very fond of the fact that they reduced the amount of dialogue during that fight scene, it gives out a mysterious, haunting atmosphere, as viewers should be left scratching their heads after seeing Saber's sudden transformation. |
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| Midway on this movie, and here i thought Lancer vs True Assassin & Dark Evil Slime in the previous film was awesome... Evil Saber vs Berserker was ootw. (how dafuq did Gilgamesh defeated Berserker again? XD) *so Rin also saw Shirou's tenacious jumping sessions? Sakura does not have a monopoly on that past memory atm. time to do some kinslaying. |
testamentKAISERJun 26, 2019 11:27 PM
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testamentKAISER said: (how dafuq did Gilgamesh defeated Berserker again? XD) This is what it looks like when Herc fights uencumbered. Freaking Gil kept on targeting Illya and Herc had to fight defensively for her sake. |
astroprogs said: testamentKAISER said: (how dafuq did Gilgamesh defeated Berserker again? XD) This is what it looks like when Herc fights uencumbered. Freaking Gil kept on targeting Illya and Herc had to fight defensively for her sake. Oic. And they say, "you get stronger if your trying to protect something" - shounen anime protag, I think. :) I have to postpone the latter half for tomorrow. If the 2nd heaven's feel is this good, I wonder how the final film of HF can top this. |
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testamentKAISER said: If the 2nd heaven's feel is this good, I wonder how the final film of HF can top this. The best is yet to come. |
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testamentKAISER said: astroprogs said: This is what it looks like when Herc fights uencumbered. Freaking Gil kept on targeting Illya and Herc had to fight defensively for her sake. Oic. And they say, "you get stronger if your trying to protect something" - shounen anime protag, I think. :) I have to postpone the latter half for tomorrow. If the 2nd heaven's feel is this good, I wonder how the final film of HF can top this. Well those shounen protagonists arent insane .Archer Heracles could have easily lasted longer than Berserker Herc against Gil. FYI the parts that the 2nd movie covers are considered the "worst" of the this route. |
| so finally finished watching HF lost butterfly. if i was Shirou when Sakura enters my room. Sakura and the disneyland-like park scene, and then cut to Gilgamesh and then cut to Sakura again about to eat some finger food..... wow Goodbye Araragi. Damn, white-haired Sakura. 1 more year(?) atleast for HF Spring Song. i can wait. i think... |
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| how could such a wonderful movie be released at all? |
| I have only found cam rips so far, does anyone know when it gets released as a blue ray so we can pirate it in high definition? I belive such a beautifull masterpiece deserves to be seen in hd |
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abyss_will said: Such a beautiful masterpiece deserves to be bought.I have only found cam rips so far, does anyone know when it gets released as a blue ray so we can pirate it in high definition? I belive such a beautifull masterpiece deserves to be seen in hd |
Shayon said: abyss_will said: I have only found cam rips so far, does anyone know when it gets released as a blue ray so we can pirate it in high definition? I belive such a beautifull masterpiece deserves to be seen in hd blu-ray on August 21 thanks for the info |
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ssjokg said: abyss_will said: Such a beautiful masterpiece deserves to be bought.I have only found cam rips so far, does anyone know when it gets released as a blue ray so we can pirate it in high definition? I belive such a beautifull masterpiece deserves to be seen in hd my country is going for a defaul and hiperinflation, I never had a credit card to buy shit and I´ve been unemployed most of my life, if I had a job making 1000 usd a month I would but I live with arround 30 bucks a month |
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| It was ok. I liked the music. The animation looked great. 7/10 |
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MehmetY said: Well if you liked Fate/Zero but disliked UBW I still recommend you to watch or play Heaven's Feel because it's more like Zero, not UBW. The biggest reason I hated UBW was because of the unbearably trash characters. The cast is the same in this movie so I will pass. |
MehmetY said: Oh dear lord, it's 2014 again.Well if you liked Fate/Zero but disliked UBW I still recommend you to watch or play Heaven's Feel because it's more like Zero, not UBW. |
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MehmetY said: Dont bother with the troll.BestBoiEren said: The biggest reason I hated UBW was because of the unbearably trash characters. The cast is the same in this movie so I will pass. This movie focuses more of Illya, Rider, Sakura, Zouken and Saber ALTER. And HF Shirou is totally different from the UBW Shirou in the 2nd movie. There's too much UBW hater in the HF fanbase so I think you can check HF. Your score will be max 7 or 8 probably but still worth for it. |
| That fight scene was insane! That whole middle part with Saber vs. Berserker and Archer vs. Assassin was incredible. Though overall I liked the first one a little better. The heavy focus on Sakura didn't really work for me, because a lot of the other characters got sidelined. As a big fan of Zero I wanted a lot more from Kirei and Gil. I can't believe he was wasted like that. First Kirei in UBW and now Gilgamesh in this... I hope the last one at least gives Kirei something to do. |
| that Saber Alter vs Berserker was a drug for my eyes.. poor Sakura violated by worms and her step brother, I hope not that creepy grandpa too xd great watch for me as an anime watcher only, never touch the vn |
| Well that was a quite magnificent watch. Ufotable's budget never ceases to amaze me when they go all out. How much money did they spend on the Saber vs Berserker fight? lol I don't really have much to complain about adaptation-wise honestly. Yes Sakura is a bit unbearable at times as she always has been but it's less grating when put into context and you know the full depths of her suffering as her actions at least make sense from her perspective. I think Heaven's Feel in general starts to bring out the better side of all the main characters at some point throughout it Oh and if we count this as a Winter 2019 anime based on its Japanese theatrical premiere date then it only makes an already quite highly competitive season even more stacked |
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Major_Matt said: I think i must be retarded. I keep watching these anime like Shield Hero and this movie and everyone seems to love them however i disagree. This movie dealt with topics the writers didn't know anything about. The animation was amazing (minus the cg which was much worse than how the studio usually animates it.) I don't even feel like saying why i disliked it in detail cause no one will actually say anything constructive considering the topics this movie deals with or well...tries to. Oh great.Being outraged by females having it tough. Let me guess. Sakura didnt act as you feel like she should act as a victim of sexual abuse. |
Botato said: MehmetY said: Oh dear lord, it's 2014 again.Well if you liked Fate/Zero but disliked UBW I still recommend you to watch or play Heaven's Feel because it's more like Zero, not UBW. It shares most of the same characters so if you cant just move on from the fact you hated them, you may like HF even, that is on you, not on the movie, watch it without expecting anything. The mood is far different from UBW, it is not that it is similiar to Fate Zero... Zero IS similiar to Heaven Feel, which was written in 2004, whereas I m very much sure Urobutcher based himself HEAVILY on Heaven Feel when writting Fate Zero LN. Also the movie goes on wild directions, so again just dont expect anything and enjoy the fact you can see something this raw without filters or fucking censorship. That Ufotable had the balls to do this. |
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Playcool said: Dude, chill, I am a VN reader :blobweary:Botato said: Oh dear lord, it's 2014 again. It shares most of the same characters so if you cant just move on from the fact you hated them, you may like HF even, that is on you, not on the movie, watch it without expecting anything. The mood is far different from UBW, it is not that it is similiar to Fate Zero... Zero IS similiar to Heaven Feel, which was written in 2004, whereas I m very much sure Urobutcher based himself HEAVILY on Heaven Feel when writting Fate Zero LN. Also the movie goes on wild directions, so again just dont expect anything and enjoy the fact you can see something this raw without filters or fucking censorship. That Ufotable had the balls to do this. Just reminiscing about the past; in 2014 it was taboo to say that HF is more like zero and imply it is the true sequel or whatever. |
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Botato said: Playcool said: Dude, chill, I am a VN reader :blobweary:It shares most of the same characters so if you cant just move on from the fact you hated them, you may like HF even, that is on you, not on the movie, watch it without expecting anything. The mood is far different from UBW, it is not that it is similiar to Fate Zero... Zero IS similiar to Heaven Feel, which was written in 2004, whereas I m very much sure Urobutcher based himself HEAVILY on Heaven Feel when writting Fate Zero LN. Also the movie goes on wild directions, so again just dont expect anything and enjoy the fact you can see something this raw without filters or fucking censorship. That Ufotable had the balls to do this. Just reminiscing about the past; in 2014 it was taboo to say that HF is more like zero and imply it is the true sequel or whatever. Isnt it still taboo? |
ssjokg said: I mean isn't that what my reaction was :alterasip:Botato said: Dude, chill, I am a VN reader :blobweary: Just reminiscing about the past; in 2014 it was taboo to say that HF is more like zero and imply it is the true sequel or whatever. Isnt it still taboo? |
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Major_Matt said: no one will say anything constructive and will just attack me. Specify, and show me where and who attacked you. |
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Major_Matt said: ssjokg said: Oh great.Being outraged by females having it tough. Let me guess. Sakura didnt act as you feel like she should act as a victim of sexual abuse. Look this has nothing to do with how i think a victim of sexual abuse should act. How the hell would i know. I'm just a kid. What bothers me is how heavily this movie tries to take these topics seriously when they just end up sexualising Sakura for the sake of horny teens liking their movie (the drop in cg animation convinces me further that this is the case). Not to mention how it's so unclear if Sakura (in the whole situation between her and her brother) was even a victim as she defends him several times through this movie and the last one. Look in the end im not a critic so i'll leave it there, that and I also don't like getting into these types of debates. Thank you from projecting and talking shit while even you yourself just said you have no idea how a victim should act. And what does the "drop in cg animation" even prove or mean for that matter. |
| This is a drop in cg animation...are you serious.... And ffs people dont watch this to see Sakura's sideboob. You can watch any weekly anime and get more fanservice than this.You are projecting .Stop that. And she doesnt want sex.She needs it because of the experiments Zouken did on her.It isnt there for us to feel horny and not because she was raped either, it is a freaking plot point. The whole reason she even eats random people is because it has the same result as sex for her. |
| This was an amazing movie all the way through. The animation is pretty amazing and the fight scenes are incredible and flashy. Your usual Ufotable god tier animation. That finger sucking scene was... very intense. Overall a 10/10 movie and very enjoyable. Now begins the wait for part 3. |
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| This was a really good film and words can't explain how happy I am that after so many years we finally get HF route and in the highest quality of Fate series so far. Everything about this is spectacular; the animation, music, storytelling and characterisation. I absolutely love how everything evolved since the first film. How Gilgamesh "died" completely caught me off guard, I didn't expect that almost all servants would be dead at this point. Also, the fights were absolutely beautiful. I wonder if we will see Berserker again (my money is on yes). Though, one downside of this film is that it destroyed Sakura for me. I've never read the VNs and I never intend to. Ever since the first Fate anime, I was hyped for HF for everything I've heard of it (and I agree, it's the best FSN route) and I also I love sweet girls with tragic life. So I was totally prepared that Sakura would dethrone my at-the-moment best Fate girl. But I feel disappointed. Sakura has ought to be the stupidest character in entire Fate franchise. How exactly did she intend to kill Zoukenon her own? What did she think would happen when she returned to Matou house? How did she plan her meeting with Shinji and Zouken to go? Did she expect them both to just throw themselves to the ground and beg for mercy just because she showed up? She's got everything she's ever wanted, her senpai, her sister and a home and... she just abandons it without a plan, while she knows something is wrong with her (assuming she doesn't know what influence the shadow has over her) and Shirou, of all people, tried to kill her for some unknown reason. And then she just puts herself into a position where she has to suffer and feels sorry for herself? Like... what the hell? Are you fucking insane? Did you lose your ability to communicate with the only person you know who's always had the greater good in mind? What the hell was she thinking? No, seriously, I expected to really like Sakura and at first I really did. She started a bit boring and uninteresting then turned boring and uninteresting with really sad past and then coined it by being a complete idiot. I just... I just feel so disappointed with how Sakura is hyped by the fandom and this is supposed to be it? Her moment of truth is no communication, stupid decisions and no plan whatsoever? I honestly expected her to try to consciously harness the power of the shadow and try to manipulate it and THAT would lead her to her dark side but... this? This is like going to watch Harry Potter and realising you've walked into Twilight. |
SuiNoByakkoAug 21, 2019 1:55 PM
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Major_Matt said: Not to mention how it's so unclear if Sakura (in the whole situation between her and her brother) was even a victim as she defends him several times through this movie and the last one. Look in the end im not a critic so i'll leave it there, that and I also don't like getting into these types of debates. P.S you just proved my point about how no one will say anything constructive and will just attack me. It's just my opinions don't take em as me stating something is a fact. The reason Sakura defends Shinji is because she believes standing against him will do more harm in their family's dynamic and how her image will be perceived in front of her senpei. She's actually a pretty accurate example of an abuse victim that constantly makes excuses for her abusers. Her whole character arc in the movie is about her slowly defying the things that have obstructed her life(hence why she says no to Shinji near the end after getting involved with Shirou). |
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