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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ooh, I like the music used this episode. There's an eerie feeling about this episode as we see these kids continue to plan their escape. Norman looked interesting this episode with his suit, hat, and setup together though. I bet there were a million thoughts going through his mind. Emma also showed a lot more emotions than usual when she realizes the stakes and risk Norman put himself in. |
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| This show is getting better. I think that Norman is still alive, we don't see a corpse. It seems that Emma and Ray didn't give up. |
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| Damn, such a sad episode, this anime is back imo, cant wait for the last 2 episodes |
| well, good thing they didn't give up. it's basically escape or die trying at this point. Mama's speech wasn't convincing at all, she's basically saying "you die anyways", why even bother agreeing with that?  |
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| Ray: You haven't actually given up, have you? Emma: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| They had us in the first half no gonna lie. |
| This has been the most emotional episode of Neverland yet for me. Holy... It always kills me to see the younger children reacting to Emma, Norman, and Ray and this episode was no exception. Pretty sure Mama is hiding something else as well, but we'll see if that's the case in the last two episodes, I suppose. I could be completely wrong. This show is without a doubt perfect so far. We just need an absolutely solid ending. |
| The fact that they didn't show us what happened to Norman confirms it 100% that he's still alive. |
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| I feel like this episode was the 'calm' before the storm. I'm excited to see what the next episode is going to bring us! |
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Tasel said: The fact that they didn't show us what happened to Norman confirms it 100% that he's still alive. My thoughts exactly. If he would really have gotten killed, they would definitely show the flower stabbing scene with even more intense drama than sister Krone got from it. It's a dead giveaway that he survived. The main question now will be how, but it's probably not something we will find out this season. |
| I feel like Norman isn't dead but that hasn't stopped me from crying haha! Mama might be one of the most vile villains in anime, she makes me feel sick. Next weeks ep is gonna be hella hard to watch too because of Ray 😭 |
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| I'm forever sad..Norman can't be dead..She took him to a room (maybe there were humans??) And I really thought they gave up, damn. I lovvve this anime. Only 2 eps left... |
| This episode is a bit quiet. But it's the kind of quietness before the big come back. I don't like the fact that Don and Gilda doesn't show much emotion in this episode and it's kinda unnatural. But I don't think Norman will die like this and there's something about the string telephone and there's also a surprise on his face in that room. And Mama seemed a bit concerned talking to Emma after that. |
Yasuhiro-Mar 14, 2019 12:15 PM
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Yasuhiro- said: I knew they did not give up entirely. And when Emma refused Mom I knew the plan is still in action. It would have made Norman's sacrifice in vain. About Norman being alive maybe yes maybe no. This episode is a bit quiet. But it's the kind of quietness before the storm, a big come back. I don't like the fact that Don and Gilda doesn't show much emotion in this episode and it's kinda unnatural. But I don't think Norman will die like this and there's something about the string telephone and there's also a surprise on his face in that room. And Mama seemed a bit concerned talking to Emma after that. |
| Nah, Norman can't have died. I don't get it... there's just too many secrets; in any case this anime r is really hitting me hard , there was just too many feels I can't wait for the next episode |
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| So if Norman isn't dead (since no gruesome death or body was actually shown), is Mama on his side, keeping him in hiding?? She was also pretty shaken up when Norman asked her if she was happy. Throughout the anime I've felt like I've underestimated Emma until that ending scene. Waiting for next week~ Final 2 episodes will surely not disappoint. |
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| One of the weaker episodes I'd say. Still great, but not the best we've seen. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with the "death". The show has already had multiple bait and switch moments, which is clearly what's going on. It would have been much more effective if the episode ended with that rather than showing it partway. Nevertheless, I'm interested as to what actually happened. If by chance it's not a bait and switch, then I'll be impressed. I get that this was the "calm before the storm" (like others have mentioned), but the latter half of the episode felt barren. I did like the flashback and some insight into Mom's character. Still and amazing show so far, even with all of this being said. |
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| everything was perfect but Emmas face did not have me shook like in the manga Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenMar 26, 2019 8:27 PM
nightcrawlercyp said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol.Yasuhiro- said: I knew they did not give up entirely. And when Emma refused Mom I knew the plan is still in action. It would have made Norman's sacrifice in vain. About Norman being alive maybe yes maybe no. This episode is a bit quiet. But it's the kind of quietness before the big come back. I don't like the fact that Don and Gilda doesn't show much emotion in this episode and it's kinda unnatural. But I don't think Norman will die like this and there's something about the string telephone and there's also a surprise on his face in that room. And Mama seemed a bit concerned talking to Emma after that. |
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| That wicked smile at the end was worth waiting for,also R.I.P. Norman.......... |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
Yasuhiro- said: I am guessing next episode is the escapenightcrawlercyp said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol.I knew they did not give up entirely. And when Emma refused Mom I knew the plan is still in action. It would have made Norman's sacrifice in vain. About Norman being alive maybe yes maybe no. |
| I hope Norman still alive. I mean we didn't actually see him die, and Mother could simply be trying to destroy their hope by making them think he was next to be shipped when in reality, they didn't request him or something. Maybe she brings him food every day in that room |
Yeah, Emma's face was more shocking in the manga, i thought she was already broken with that face. Also guys, just saying. Remember the lullaby that Ray sang in the dinner room before emma appear Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenMar 26, 2019 8:27 PM
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| really liked the episode it was nice drama, and emmas face was awesome at the end :D Yasuhiro- said: nightcrawlercyp said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol.I knew they did not give up entirely. And when Emma refused Mom I knew the plan is still in action. It would have made Norman's sacrifice in vain. About Norman being alive maybe yes maybe no. ull have to, i dont think we will get season 2 anytime soon, and certainly not s3, and the details of what happened due to some other plot details it was revealed - whether he is dead and how he died, or whether he lives - rather late into the manga, so most likely sth like s3 in the anime if we ever get that many @nightcrawlercyp i think the escape will play out in the last ep, i cant imagine it ending next ep because a lot still needs to happen and there would be no benefit continuing after the escape as the season is ending |
Daphi said: really liked the episode it was nice drama, and emmas face was awesome at the end :D Yasuhiro- said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol. ull have to, i dont think we will get season 2 anytime soon, and certainly not s3, and the details of what happened due to some other plot details it was revealed - whether he is dead and how he died, or whether he lives - rather late into the manga, so most likely sth like s3 in the anime if we ever get that many There is enough material for season 2 even if it will be 2-cours. But yeah, we won't get season 2 soon because noitaminA slot is already filled at least until Fall 2019 or Winter 2020 (if Psycho Pass S3 have 2-cours) |
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| @gadboyz there is enough material for 4 seasons D: but as u said the slots are filled, maybe next year would be awesome and i dont know the numbers of how well the anime did so i cant really say whether it will come at all ö-> regarding $$$ |
Daphi said: What you mean a lot needs to happen.? Ray's birthday is the next dayreally liked the episode it was nice drama, and emmas face was awesome at the end :D Yasuhiro- said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol. ull have to, i dont think we will get season 2 anytime soon, and certainly not s3, and the details of what happened due to some other plot details it was revealed - whether he is dead and how he died, or whether he lives - rather late into the manga, so most likely sth like s3 in the anime if we ever get that many @nightcrawlercyp i think the escape will play out in the last ep, i cant imagine it ending next ep because a lot still needs to happen and there would be no benefit continuing after the escape as the season is ending |
Daphi said: @gadboyz there is enough material for 4 seasons D: but as u said the slots are filled, maybe next year would be awesome and i dont know the numbers of how well the anime did so i cant really say whether it will come at all ö-> regarding $$$ Anime really have manga boost sale. TPN made 1M manga sales just in January from vol 1-12. |
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| What a sad episode. Emma just couldn't accept that Norman won't escape. This one definitely raised a lot of questions. Norman said he wants Phil to help Emma. Maybe Phil has been part of the plan all along and they've been hiding it from us? Calling it now, Phil is going to play a big role in the last 2 episodes. It's pretty obvious to us that Norman isn't dead. But the question is what did he see and where has he been all this time? Perhaps they do something different with the males, and maybe it has something to do with the breeding.. They wanted us to think that all hope was lost, but at the end it seemed like Ray and Emma were just putting on a front, and they still have a plan up their sleeves. They seem more fired up than ever! It was still sad to see them in despair and all the younger children reacting to it. Oh boy, two episodes left! I'm sad and excited. I can't wait to see what happens, but it sucks it will be over in a couple more weeks. I'm definitely going to continue with the manga after this. |
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| Hmmm interesting. I wonder if Norman is really dead or not. |
nightcrawlercyp said: What you mean a lot needs to happen.? Ray's birthday is the next day Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenMar 26, 2019 8:26 PM
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| Great episode, Norman is being shipped out. Emotional episode with goodbye to Norman. The flasback scene when they was a kids are wholesome. And the next is the time skip, Emma is coping up for these past month. And Ray as well, but at the end Ray asked Emma if she doesnt give up. And with that we seen Emma determined look, with a cliffhanger. The first part is Norman explain that the cliff is had a bridge on the HQ of demons, and that is the way to escape. Overall great episode, some great OST played in emotional scenes. And some good cinematography. |
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| This episode was intense and sad! Poor Emma, obvius she will be more emotional with Norman when he is going to die without running away, was really painfull to watch Emma crying like that! The flashback about Norman being sick as young and Emma invadidng her room was funny and cute! I suspect that Norman is still alive, but i also wonder where he is and was was his reaction when Mother openned the door! If it wasn't the end with that Emma's face, i would think they had give up, but i am glad they did not! |
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| Emma's face actually jumpscared me in the end. That is the face of a girl who plays 64d chess in space upside down. |
@nightcrawlercyp thats the fun part wait and see gadboyz said: Daphi said: @gadboyz there is enough material for 4 seasons D: but as u said the slots are filled, maybe next year would be awesome and i dont know the numbers of how well the anime did so i cant really say whether it will come at all ö-> regarding $$$ Anime really have manga boost sale. TPN made 1M manga sales just in January from vol 1-12. uff ty for the info |
| holy fucking shit it's getting better with every single episode |
| This episode really killed me inside. I seriously had to hold back these tears. What a messed up ride. The fact that all this history of being at the House, loving one another, was just a farce. That really teared me up inside. I can't believe this is the future they were living in. The way Mom accepted her path and told them either to embrace it or die was simply way too much to comprehend for me. I really hope by next week they got something coming, because it has to be game time. You either have to embrace this fucked up system or die trying to fight it. When I thought this whole thing was over, 20 minutes of depression and hopelessness, there is one last chance. Ray and Emma have one final gambit up their sleeve. I really hope they pull through and rub it against Mom's face. |
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| Hmm given the cliff no wonder there was no extra security. If anything Emma wouldn't let something like illness stop her from caring for others. Ray's line though sure was priceless. The string telephone was a great idea and such a warm memory. Norman's farewell to Emma though sure was a powerful and sad one. The fact that Emma and Ray knew the truth about what happens to kids who go hurts them even more as well. Isabella sure exploited the despair that Emma was going through though. An interesting ep but also an emotionally heavy one as well with Norman's passing. Though it looks like Emma and Ray are far from finished with their plans. |
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| Well I have no idea how they're going to escape. Was Normans plan to let Emma stay as a Mom and Ray as a spermbank? Is Mom part of the resistance? What did doll talking Krone leave behind? Is Phil actually Jesus? |
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| I will miss Norman, he was by far my favorite out of the main trio. But even so the episode wasn't as sad as I thought it would be. It just didn't feel real or it didn't hit me yet. I guess I should be grateful that I didn't have to see Norman's body like I saw the ones of Connie and Krone, but it's weird, like others have said he could even be alive. Emma's last desperate attempt to make him run away didn't sit right with me either, but what else could she do? And time just passed as they mourned, or did it? Is Emma really powerless by herself? Maybe she was doing something the whole time, after all Norman asked her to not give up. And just what was the thing that Krone left behind? It doesn't even feel like Norman is truly gone and it's already time for Ray to be shipped. |
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Daphi said: Tbh... I am more interested in knowing about mama than those kids cuz she is kind actually. And her smile, her touch, they seem so warm. But she just happen to have no choice. She seems so lonely, unhappy, keep lying to herself and crying inside. I..I wish I could reach out, hug her and make her feel better. And just her beautiful genuine smile is enough for me :)really liked the episode it was nice drama, and emmas face was awesome at the end :D Yasuhiro- said: Then I guess I'll have to pick up the manga if they don't tell us in this season Lol. ull have to, i dont think we will get season 2 anytime soon, and certainly not s3, and the details of what happened due to some other plot details it was revealed - whether he is dead and how he died, or whether he lives - rather late into the manga, so most likely sth like s3 in the anime if we ever get that many |
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