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| About the Phantom, does someone else recognize the voice actress? I'm confident I heard that voice somewhere, but really can't remember right now ... |
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| Are we ever going to know who was behind the death of Origami’s parents in the undisturbed true timeline before Kurumi’s intervention into the world timelines? Speaking of Kurumi, we got a lot more from her this episode and they were nice to have! Her past self was a lot more cautious but good thing she wasn’t as stubborn as you’d think someone her age would normally be making things much easier for Shido and (Present) Kurumi. Still a bit confused over the whole time-travel aspect to be honest, i.e. how is Shido alive despite what just happened earlier in the end there and how exactly does Phantom know about Shido’s plans(I wonder if she, too, has a power that’s related to time or something of the sort) but I hope we will get answers to that in the coming episodes. What a cliffhanger though, curious to see if he managed to save them for sure. |
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eXtripa69 said: About the Phantom, does someone else recognize the voice actress? I'm confident I heard that voice somewhere, but really can't remember right now ... It’s hard to say, now that I think about it and yeah I, too, feel like I’ve heard that character speak before. It’s obviously not any of the usual girls that hang around Shido for sure. I was thinking in the earlier episode that it might’ve been the teacher, purely out of guess and considering she’s received quite a lot of screentime in this franchise, but the beginning of this episode completely ruled out that idea. And then there’s those three besties and the JDF but chances seem very unlikely for one of them to be Phantom to be honest. Murasame seems very well-informed on Spirits and such in general, but I doubt she’s Phantom too. Aside from these set of Characters, there aren’t even many more female characters so I think it’s got to be someone from the other side but no one other than Ellen Mathers comes to mind. But Ellen is said to be the strongest Wizard so she’s probably a human, so that’s probably a no-no too. Light novel readers say that it’s someone whom were already affiliated with and that too for a while so it’s all the more interesting as to who it really is. By the way, I just assumed it’d be a female just because of the appearance of that fake version but there aren’t really much of the Male characters that come to mind, other than that poor friend of Shido’s who always seems to be getting the short end of the stick every time and Kyouhei who can be a womaniser but again I highly doubt it’s him. Had it been Westcott he’d probably reveal it by now, so not him either. As such, as you can probably guess by now, I have next to no clue on who it is so I’m looking forward to the eventual reveal. |
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| Take 2 I guess for Shido trying to change the past. I kinda like the look the old Kurumi had, her hair was a lot longer then her current self and personality a bit different as well, even the future her commented on that part. Well Shido saved the day for the Origami family but I think he died in the process. |
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| I feel like Tohka is the phantom really wild guess. |
NormT said: _MushiRock11_ said: It’s hard to say, now that I think about it and yeah I, too, feel like I’ve heard that character speak before. It’s obviously not any of the usual girls that hang around Shido for sure. I was thinking in the earlier episode that it might’ve been the teacher, purely out of guess and considering she’s received quite a lot of screentime in this franchise, but the beginning of this episode completely ruled out that idea. And then there’s those three besties and the JDF but chances seem very unlikely for one of them to be Phantom to be honest. Murasame seems very well-informed on Spirits and such in general, but I doubt she’s Phantom too. Aside from these set of Characters, there aren’t even many more female characters so I think it’s got to be someone from the other side but no one other than Ellen Mathers comes to mind. But Ellen is said to be the strongest Wizard so she’s probably a human, so that’s probably a no-no too. Light novel readers say that it’s someone whom were already affiliated with and that too for a while so it’s all the more interesting as to who it really is. By the way, I just assumed it’d be a female just because of the appearance of that fake version but there aren’t really much of the Male characters that come to mind, other than that poor friend of Shido’s who always seems to be getting the short end of the stick every time and Kyouhei who can be a womaniser but again I highly doubt it’s him. Had it been Westcott he’d probably reveal it by now, so not him either. As such, as you can probably guess by now, I have next to no clue on who it is so I’m looking forward to the eventual reveal. Yes Phantom is definitely a female. She is able to deduce that Shido time traveled based on his appearance. She does not know his exact plans. As for the reveal of Phantom's identity, unfortunately it won't happen in this season if they are adapting based on the LN pace (Origami arc is vol 10-11, Phantom reveal is vol 16 in Kurumi's arc). You can try guessing her identity by Oh right, that’s a bit disappointing. I’ll try watching that episode, thanks! |
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| Damn , this episode was intense! So Shido managed to speak with phantom, and teh phantom girl form is the one that appears in opening, i really curious to know who is she, seems to be important! Kurumi 5 years ago had a diferent style, i like to see her younger! Shido managed to save Origami's parents, and died to save them, he woke up well, so that mean he is a diferent timeline, but why is he alive if he died, i am so much curious to see my quest answered in next episode! |
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Mattinator95 said: _MushiRock11_ said: Are we ever going to know who was behind the death of Origami’s parents in the undisturbed true timeline before Kurumi’s intervention into the world timelines? Speaking of Kurumi, we got a lot more from her this episode and they were nice to have! Her past self was a lot more cautious but good thing she wasn’t as stubborn as you’d think someone her age would normally be making things much easier for Shido and (Present) Kurumi. Still a bit confused over the whole time-travel aspect to be honest, i.e. how is Shido alive despite what just happened earlier in the end there and how exactly does Phantom know about Shido’s plans(I wonder if she, too, has a power that’s related to time or something of the sort) but I hope we will get answers to that in the coming episodes. What a cliffhanger though, curious to see if he managed to save them for sure. ????? undisturbed true timeline what do you mean we sore the true timeline it was always origami. Shido is still alive because time Travel . He saved her parents the timeline we know from season 1 to this point has been erased and plus his younger self wasnt in harms way so he wouldnt have died . After saving her parents future shido didn't need to even exist in the timeline as he changed it Phantom didn't say anything about knowing his plans though . Phantom just correctly convyed how he got thier and shido pretty corrected her words with his reaction / response Wait, wasn’t it because Origami travelled back in time using the Yod Bet and accidentally killed her parents? How’s this the true timeline then? Don’t tell me it’s like on repeat this way like Steins;Gate where this event is like a converging point which must happen. Right, I see. Oh, is that so? I think I interpreted the scene, or rather that specific dialogue of hers wrong then. |
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Mattinator95 said: _MushiRock11_ said: Wait, wasn’t it because Origami travelled back in time using the Yod Bet and accidentally killed her parents? How’s this the true timeline then? Don’t tell me it’s like on repeat this way like Steins;Gate where this event is like a converging point which must happen. Right, I see. Oh, is that so? I think I interpreted the scene, or rather that specific dialogue of hers wrong then. From season 1 till this episode . was the true timeline where she accidantally kills her parents. The timeline that shido created by saving her parents is a different timeline so I guess it was always going to Happen eventually ( future shido saving them ) But I'm unsure about that part if it was always going to Happen or not as it looked like a new event . The only thing that hasn't come together is the shido that talked to kurumi when shido was in the past . And if kurumi knew shido since the beginning or not Right, I get it now, thanks! |
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Mattinator95 said: Hm... But the Shido that wakes up in his bed thinks he's still connected to Kurumi. I thought Metatron would have blown those memories away. ...unless Yod Bet decided to quit just before the moment of impact, sending him back to the present of the alternate timeline in which Origami's parents survive, and merging with or replacing the Shido who was with Kotori at the time of the fire.Takata said: Hm... art seemed a little better overall this episode. I thought he couldn't save Origami's parents because that would rewrite 5 years of the timeline, but he did it anyway. Shido saving them creates a contradiction: if he saves them, the younger Origami wouldn't have a reason to join the AST, and travel back in time 5 years later and fire Metatron. Thus, the threat that Shido saves them from should never appear. Perhaps the Origami that fires Metatron at her parents, and the Shido that pushes them out of the way, are simply foreign to the timeline in which it occurs? ...yeah time travel just doesn't make perfect sense. >.< Aside, in both timelines, the Phantom has witnessed that Origami has the skill to wield Metatron. Seems to be an art error in episode 7 where the inverted Origami is shown with long hair under her veil for one shot, but it's short for all the other shots in the same scene. I believe that exceeds Kotori's regeneration ability. Walking into Yoshino'd ice storm was dangerous because he'd keep taking damage, never getting a chance to heal. Sounds like regenerative health in games, where you need to stop taking damage for it to work. People are forgetting there was more then one shido in that time period . It just his future self that disappeared I'm also not seeing how Shido returning to the present opened up the opportunity to do things over with the younger Kurumi's Yod Bet. That opportunity should have been there already since Kurumi knew where she was on the day of the fire. ...maybe we find out more next episode... or maybe I'll read volumes 10 and 11. |
TakataMar 9, 2019 2:21 AM
| So it seems like he's been allowed to change the timeline, but surely that isn't actually the case? The impacts would be way too far-reaching, so there must be something more going on here. And as for Phantom... it's interesting that we now know what she looks like (or what she chooses to look like as a disguise, rather), and boy does she look and sound very familiar. I'm not quite sure where, but I'm positive she's been somewhere in this show before this arc. |
AtavisticMar 9, 2019 2:29 AM
| I may be a bit biased here but I love this episode because of time travel stuff and tons of Kurumi time + younger Kurumi for the win! Still, I want to know how all the Spirits get those Spirit abilities from the phantom. |
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Atavistic said: So it seems like he's been allowed to change the timeline, but surely that isn't actually the case? The impacts would be way too far-reaching, so there must be something more going on here. And as for Phantom... it's interesting that we now know what she looks like (or what she chooses to look like as a disguise, rather), and boy does she look and sound very familiar. I'm not quite sure where, but I'm positive she's been somewhere in this show before this arc. Oh, not in this season but the phantom has appeared in all the previous seasons and movie too and not just some minor character but as a supporting character. |
Tennouji said: I may be a bit biased here but I love this episode because of time travel stuff and tons of Kurumi time + younger Kurumi for the win! Still, I want to know how all the Spirits get those Spirit abilities from the phantom. Well, I guess u should re-watch how Origami became a spirit maybe that will give u some hint. |
| what a great fucking episode. this is probably the best episode in the anime so far. Can't wait for next week. |
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can you at least say if it will be known who that phantom is in this season or not? |
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Mezo-RPWPA said: can you at least say if it will be known who that phantom is in this season or not? Nah man because Phantom identity was revealed in vol 17 and this is going to end at vol 11. |
Congintive said: Mezo-RPWPA said: can you at least say if it will be known who that phantom is in this season or not? Nah man because Phantom identity was revealed in vol 17 and this is going to end at vol 11. kinda sad tbh. thanks for letting me know anyway on a side note though. is the LN complete or is it still ongoing? |
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Mezo-RPWPA said: Congintive said: Nah man because Phantom identity was revealed in vol 17 and this is going to end at vol 11. kinda sad tbh. thanks for letting me know anyway on a side note though. is the LN complete or is it still ongoing? Only 19 vol are released so far and vol 20 is going to release in a couple of months now and the way how it's going I think that vol 20 is going to be the last or at least maybe vol 21 but it's going to end soon. |
Mattinator95 said: i edited my post before i noticed you replied. i added that confronting phantom created a new timeline too . And shido meeting past kurumi also changed the timeline as well Oh right, that actually makes things a little more confusing to be frankly honest lol but thanks for taking your time clarifying nevertheless! |
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| anyone knows the name of the OST that started playing when MC saw the younger girl talking to the older version of her at the beginning of the episode? |
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| Got some serious time paradoxes in the works here lol |
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| Good episode I wonder who is that mysterious girl that know him ?! 1st time I see her |
JonasDown said: What do you mean? She appeared in episode 7 and 8 too. It's not the first time you see her if you've watched those episodes. Are you talking about this girl ?! https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/1908ab12-1f8e-4387-b6ab-b1e543c2d37d.png I meant that this is the 1st time we see her face. I don't remember seeing her face in any other episode |
Congintive said: Well, I guess u should re-watch how Origami became a spirit maybe that will give u some hint. That's not what I meant. |
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| This is getting really interesting. But when I think we probably will never see the rest of novel adapted... |
Terkhev said: This is getting really interesting. But when I think we probably will never see the rest of novel adapted... 4 years beween s2 and s3...and it came with very low budget...yeah, probably is better to see the LN, and lose all hope of animation...because it woulld need a season 5 to do all the plot. |
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Tennouji said: Congintive said: Well, I guess u should re-watch how Origami became a spirit maybe that will give u some hint. That's not what I meant. Well, I can give u a detailed explanation but I guess that will be spoilers then if ur okay with that. |
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| To anyone here who may not be familiar with the DAL visual novel games....... That form that Phantom took when confronted by Shidou....is none than other than Rinne Sonogami, a primary heroine of the VN series of the franchise. Like with Mayuri’s situation, Rinne never had an original physical vessel to begin with; in short, she’s not human. Her story in the VN series is not confirmed as canon, but the fact that Phantom’s appearance as her in the canonicity of the story can’t be played off as coincidental. As of right now, the light novel series is still ongoing, so there’s still a good chance that the two stories may definitively connect at some point in some way. |
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| Kurumi five years ago was also very beautiful. In the end it seemed that Shidou saved Origami's parents but was it successful? |
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| This was probably the best episode yet, sure this is better in the LN, and the studio isnt giving it proper justice, but still, it is nice to finally see this getting animated AND seeing Origami's roots, what happened on this episode is the reason for her personality since S1, why she always clinged to Shido like that, cuz she meet in the past like this, why she hates angels so much. I m surprised Kurumi is being able to fake it, because her goal is also to get Phantom done, but she has realized she has to wait for the right time to strike... Volume 10 ends, and now we are onto volume 11, which aside a less well executed ending, has some really strong STRONG scenes too, cant wait to see more of Origami Devil~~ uninstallthegame said: Congintive said: Wanna know? but that's the biggest spoiler of DAL and that character is going to play a very very big role in the future. well, shit. i'm kinda thrilled to spoil myself by searching it up, but i guess it'd be better for me to just patiently wait the big reveal Well, I actually spoiled that for myself, partly before really reading the LN, I didnt know the full spoiler itself, just knew Phantom true appearence and name, didnt know WHO that was really still... This is all revealed around 18, whereas this episode just finished adaptating the last part of volume 10. The whole mystery surrounding Phantom concerns Kurumi, and her big arc has still to come, much like Origami is finally getting her arcs adapted, 10-11 that explain her character and her past, Kurumi's real arc is yet to come, and will probably never be adapted (we would need DAL IV and V for that), and right after her arc comes the whole Phantom arc, where the core of the series will be explained, and alot of things people previously though DAL is an harem so this and that look silly and there is no explanation to this, will get themselves done, since DAL does explain it all, brilliantly, and it is all tied to Kurumi and Phantom. If you want to know but want to experience it naturally, read the LN, the latter arcs are the best of the series, whereas with this one, you are already seeing the plot can go quite a few places. anodasin said: It's the best episode for the season for me. So many surprises! From the start, I always expect what will Shido do to save the future, but it's not so simple. In the end, Shido pushes Origami's parents out from the shots. But, I have no idea what happen then. Kurumi is really on the spotlight. I can't wait for the next week. It is not that simple, we are only at the mid point of her arc, nothing was resolved yet, this was not enough. JakkoFourEyes said: As soon as they introduced Kurumi again this series got miles better. Not gonna lie, the best arcs of the series are tied down to Kurumi, but even reading this far, I was still not into Kurumi ship... her true arc later on is even better than this, and by that point, you cant no longer deny her greatness as a character. Not always because of her, but the writter really delivers the upmost of his writting, with her around, since she is a break from the norm. All said Mia and Mukuro arcs were also great AND there was no Kurumi on them... |
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| NO!! Don't leave me with that cliffhanger! No doubts, the best episode yet. So, what really happened at the end?? Gahhhh i really wanna know how everything turned out. But i'm really hoping that Shido managed to change the past somehow. But Phantom... hmmm, now i'm really curious about her, can't wait to know more about her and also her real intentions in all of this matter, that dialogue with Shido just left me with a touch of mystery in the air. Absolutely loved the teamwork between Shido and Kurumi, these 2 are a perfect pair. Can't wait for the next episode! PS: LOLI KURUMI OMFG I'M IN HEAVEN. |
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AmaneCrimson said: Topu_Rayhan said: Very interesting episode. I have a feeling Phantom(Glitchy Spirit, the one Origami was fighting in the past) could be Natsumi. Assuming from the cover of the anime and the figure of Phantom in episode 8. Natsumi did nothing wrong. You thought it was Natsumi?! It was her, Mi...! M-M-M-M-M-M...!!! MATHERS ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  Damn it dude ! You're are suppose to hide spoilers. It does look like Ellen/Mira, but if you say Ellen is Phantom which she could be. But think about it Phantom did show some affection towards Shido whereas the future Ellen doesn't show any mercy above all Westcott said in previous season/episodes during Tohka's inversion, That woman has planned so much ahead. If Westcott knows who Phantom is, and why would Westcott keep Ellen as his partner. In addition, Ellen doesn't think twice to kill a Spirit. Therefore Ellen might not be Phantom. It could be either Murasame Reine or Natsumi. Natsumi's chances are high as Phantom's height is similar to Natsumi also the appearance. Also looking at the covers of season 3, gives a clue for me to accuse Natsumi as Phantom. https://goo.gl/images/HFXTYz https://goo.gl/images/YkMffd |
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