Sword Art Online: Alicization Episode 6 Discussion

Nov 10, 2018 12:07 PM

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Hatul said:

-Riptide- said:

Yes it was explained. That was the point of the entire episode.

Firstly when was this explained? Secondly even if it was, if you wanna win a war you need to kill people there's not much else to learn and going out of your way to make AIs just for that goes against his intent and it's even proven in this very episode since the AIs don't murder.. which is a speed bump for him.. which raises another question, if nobody murders in this world how did the taboo index spring up?

The explanation is at the beginning of the episode, just a little after the OP. Making robots that are programmed to kill by design would equate to making top-down AI, and Kikuoka explained that top-down AI can't react appropriately to situations it's not explicitly programmed to handle. That's why nothing really compares to true human intelligence. We make our decisions based on many things, intuition and emotions included. That's the motivation for developing bottom-up AI that could better compare to true intelligence.

You're right, the AI could then be given physical bodies by transferring them to robots. You may be right that Kikuoka's moral justification is somewhat flawed, but well, he is the antagonist here, and as the audience, we're supposed to side with Kirito and Asuna. This episode gets into some philosophical stuff such as the ideology that "if it thinks, then it could feel and should have rights." Asuna and Kirito have the AI daughter Yui to further reinforce their feelings about their position.

But we can't forget about the point of Kikuoka's project. The purpose of raising this kind of AI is to save human lives. Kikuoka will exploit these AI fluctlights because they don't have physical bodies. They can be given robot bodies and can be expendable in a way to him because of the difference between the fluctlights and real humans. AI can be copied and given a new body when it's destroyed. Humans can't be replaced in the same way. Those souls are gone when a human dies.

The Taboo Index being made was an unexpected outcome of some fluctlights forming the Axiom Church.

evilcornNov 10, 2018 12:13 PM

Nov 10, 2018 12:07 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

Asuna in a nutshell lol

Nov 10, 2018 12:11 PM

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MonkeyDMike said:

GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

Asuna in a nutshell lol

On a more brighter note, her personality might not have grown, but her boobs got bigger since Alicization

Nov 10, 2018 12:14 PM

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Fluxje said:

MonkeyDMike said:

Asuna in a nutshell lol

On a more brighter note, her personality might not have grown, but her boobs got bigger since Alicization

Lol I like your way of thinking.

Nov 10, 2018 12:15 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

"Hmmm I dunno if I can REALLY hold a grudge against the guy who kidnapped and held 10000 people hostage and murdered about half of them. I've done bad shit too I guess."

Seriously, SAO alternates between horrible deathtrap and summer camp in the minds of our heroes.

Nov 10, 2018 12:17 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

Your remarks pretty much sum up my thoughts. I love drama anime and a well constructed infodump, but I had no faith that SAO's author would make this infodump/drama episode worthwhile. He already screwed up with GGO.

AdrianRubinskyNov 10, 2018 12:21 PM

Nov 10, 2018 12:17 PM

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MonkeyDMike said:

GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

Asuna in a nutshell lol

Reki Kawahara in a nutshell

Nov 10, 2018 12:17 PM

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The whole fluclight AI reminds of this advert..

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1qjbg7/important-things-with-demetri-martin-creedocide

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Nov 10, 2018 12:22 PM

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SNDT said:

MonkeyDMike said:

Asuna in a nutshell lol

Reki Kawahara in a nutshell

Well... that's actually way more accurate.

Nov 10, 2018 12:23 PM

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dasprn said:
The whole fluclight AI reminds of this advert..

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1qjbg7/important-things-with-demetri-martin-creedocide

WTH LOL! Thanks for that

Nov 10, 2018 12:33 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

You're comparing a past incident with a current one. The lives lost in SAO cant be saved anymore, but there could be a way to save the ones in underworld, asuna said that with it in mind im sure.
It isnt like she is okay with kayaba having done what he did, she just learnt to let it go.

Nov 10, 2018 12:34 PM

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Asuna clearly doesn’t condone kayaba’s actions though. She outright condemns him for it and says it as an unforgiveable crime, but she says that she can’t deny it’s an experience that made her grow and meet special people and just because she said that doesn’t mean she forgives and accepts what kayaba does. Her sentiment doesn’t change her POV on the deathgame. Idk why people are twisting it to make it sound like she said sao was a good thing in the general context of things. We all perceive atrocious experiences as atrocious, but when we look back at them, we like to view what we gained from surpassing and defeating them. Asuna notes that’s a selfish way of thinking, but it’s what a person would try to do to forget and block the bad from his mind and remind himself of the good.

Nov 10, 2018 12:36 PM

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An awesome episode, this season is being really perfect, this episode was focused in informations, now we know everything abaut project Alicization, so everyone in underworld is a copy of a human soul, didn't expect, honestly!

I am glad that we got some news about Kirito, he is being treaten where he is inside Underworld, and we saw a familiar face, Aki, she had treaten Kirito before, so it's okay let her take care of Kirito's health!

The moment between Asuna and Rinko was kinda sentimental for me, atleast Kayaba Akihiko made everything for Rinko dont be judged by his project, i am proud of him, Asuna's words where wonderful and sweet, and i almost cried, i have dropped one or two tears, when Asuna remembering me that because of Kayaba's project they got his best moments, i have presenced his best moments and the creation of best couple! Asuna best girl ever!

Btw, i want so much, but so much that Asuna dive in Underworld! And encounter Kirito! Will be the best moment ever! Hoping so much for that!

Seems next episode is with Kirito! Lets wait another week!

Nov 10, 2018 12:38 PM

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Another episode with nothing from the digital world, but it was pretty interesting to learn about the AI experiments. I really hope they get back to it next episode.

Nov 10, 2018 12:39 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

I'm sorry that this is all you can understand from this scene lol

ppl who want to complain, can always find things to complain.

those AI are real humans soul, and someone is doing this as a experiment for their own goal, so obviously Asuna is mad.

what happened in SAO Aincrad was also nothing Asuna would want, she would get angry as well if she was there to talk to Kayaba when he did that.

but that thing came to pass and she can't do anything about it now, she is saying even tho she does not agree with what Kayaba did at all and it was such a bad thing, I can't hate him coz I made a lot of good memories in these time.
then right afterward saying she is making a big mistake for not hating him and actually enjoying his time in Aincrad, so big that she can never be forgiven.

this is very good writing and very realistic, any real human can feel like this.
Go to any real psychologist and they will tell you this.

but nah, u guys just want to hate on the author and his characters coz it's SAO :D

PedramNov 10, 2018 12:43 PM

Nov 10, 2018 12:41 PM

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evilcorn said:

Hatul said:

Firstly when was this explained? Secondly even if it was, if you wanna win a war you need to kill people there's not much else to learn and going out of your way to make AIs just for that goes against his intent and it's even proven in this very episode since the AIs don't murder.. which is a speed bump for him.. which raises another question, if nobody murders in this world how did the taboo index spring up?

The explanation is at the beginning of the episode, just a little after the OP. Making robots that are programmed to kill by design would equate to making top-down AI, and Kikuoka explained that top-down AI can't react appropriately to situations it's not explicitly programmed to handle. That's why nothing really compares to true human intelligence. We make our decisions based on many things, intuition and emotions included. That's the motivation for developing bottom-up AI that could better compare to true intelligence.

But we can't forget about the point of Kikuoka's project. The purpose of raising this kind of AI is to save human lives. Kikuoka will exploit these AI fluctlights because they don't have physical bodies. They can be given robot bodies and can be expendable in a way to him because of the difference between the fluctlights and real humans. AI can be copied and given a new body when it's destroyed. Humans can't be replaced in the same way. Those souls are gone when a human dies.

But that's so vague. I don't see why robots can't be programmed to react to as many scenarios as possible. Meanwhile humans also have many weaknesses that robots don't. I see no reason to send bottom up AIs in to battle while Top down AIs weren't even tried yet. Realistically, countries wouldn't send any soldiers in to battle if there were good enough replacements and the SAO universe does. I also don't understand how this guy is planning to recruit all these residents and make soldiers out of them without reprogramming them somehow but I guess we'll get to that at some point.

You're right, the AI could then be given physical bodies by transferring them to robots. You may be right that Kikuoka's moral justification is somewhat flawed, but well, he is the antagonist here, and as the audience, we're supposed to side with Kirito and Asuna. This episode gets into some philosophical stuff such as the ideology that "if it thinks, then it could feel and should have rights." Asuna and Kirito have the AI daughter Yui to further reinforce their feelings about their position.

And that's exactly the point I'm getting at. I feel like the show is going out of its way to paint this guy as a villain by having him mess with people's souls who (as we've witnessed in this very episode) can go through tremendous mental suffering (another weakness killing machines could do without). When he just as easily could've been a hero with top to bottom AIs and save many soldiers' lives in the process.

Nov 10, 2018 12:47 PM

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evilcorn said:

dasprn said:
The whole fluclight AI reminds of this advert..

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1qjbg7/important-things-with-demetri-martin-creedocide

WTH LOL! Thanks for that

Welcome. Glad that it did help.

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Nov 10, 2018 12:55 PM

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DragonSlayer_19 said:
Asuna clearly doesn’t condone kayaba’s actions though. She outright condemns him for it and says it as an unforgiveable crime, but she says that she can’t deny it’s an experience that made her grow and meet special people and just because she said that doesn’t mean she forgives and accepts what kayaba does. Her sentiment doesn’t change her POV on the deathgame. Idk why people are twisting it to make it sound like she said sao was a good thing in the general context of things. We all perceive atrocious experiences as atrocious, but when we look back at them, we like to view what we gained from surpassing and defeating them. Asuna notes that’s a selfish way of thinking, but it’s what a person would try to do to forget and block the bad from his mind and remind himself of the good.

Thank you, this was really well said!

Nov 10, 2018 1:12 PM

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The true purpose of the Alicization Project is really fucked up.
Asuna learns the true goal of Kikuoka, creating the perfect AI using real souls. The example with Hiro's copy was quite creepy and cruel. They also give us information about fluctlight, STL and how it was developed Underworld.
It was nice to see a familiar face in the care of Kirito, the nurse who took care of him in previous events, Aki reveals that she is a military nurse and that her mission in Ocean Turtle is to take care of him.
In the end the habitants of Underworld are not NPC, but copies of souls ... WOW I did not expect thar and knowing that they created a religion was more than impressive.
Rinko reveals a bit of her past with Kayaba and also talks about the SAO incident, she also apologizes to Asuna, although she responds that she feels that she shouldn´t do it since it was that incident in SAO that made her know Kirito.
By the name of the next episode, it seems that they will refocus on Kirito and Eugeo's trip to the capital.

Nov 10, 2018 1:35 PM

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Hatul said:

evilcorn said:

The explanation is at the beginning of the episode, just a little after the OP. Making robots that are programmed to kill by design would equate to making top-down AI, and Kikuoka explained that top-down AI can't react appropriately to situations it's not explicitly programmed to handle. That's why nothing really compares to true human intelligence. We make our decisions based on many things, intuition and emotions included. That's the motivation for developing bottom-up AI that could better compare to true intelligence.

But we can't forget about the point of Kikuoka's project. The purpose of raising this kind of AI is to save human lives. Kikuoka will exploit these AI fluctlights because they don't have physical bodies. They can be given robot bodies and can be expendable in a way to him because of the difference between the fluctlights and real humans. AI can be copied and given a new body when it's destroyed. Humans can't be replaced in the same way. Those souls are gone when a human dies.

But that's so vague. I don't see why robots can't be programmed to react to as many scenarios as possible. Meanwhile humans also have many weaknesses that robots don't. I see no reason to send bottom up AIs in to battle while Top down AIs weren't even tried yet. Realistically, countries wouldn't send any soldiers in to battle if there were good enough replacements and the SAO universe does. I also don't understand how this guy is planning to recruit all these residents and make soldiers out of them without reprogramming them somehow but I guess we'll get to that at some point.

You're right, the AI could then be given physical bodies by transferring them to robots. You may be right that Kikuoka's moral justification is somewhat flawed, but well, he is the antagonist here, and as the audience, we're supposed to side with Kirito and Asuna. This episode gets into some philosophical stuff such as the ideology that "if it thinks, then it could feel and should have rights." Asuna and Kirito have the AI daughter Yui to further reinforce their feelings about their position.

And that's exactly the point I'm getting at. I feel like the show is going out of its way to paint this guy as a villain by having him mess with people's souls who (as we've witnessed in this very episode) can go through tremendous mental suffering (another weakness killing machines could do without). When he just as easily could've been a hero with top to bottom AIs and save many soldiers' lives in the process.

The thing is something are not explained fully in anime and some things will be explained later. so the anime-only viewers don't have much to go on.

for example we were first explained how the other countries are already start using VR technology in military.

first of all, i don't know why u guys think there should be any robot or body for an A.I to control a military weapon ? the Lightcube can be loaded into a weapon and the weapon getting directly controlled by A.I

anyway we were told that there is now unmanned weaponry from other countries, controlled remotely by some guy using VR headset to feel like he/she is inside the weapon and control it.
but then they said the problem to this is there is many place with jammed signals and enemy can easily make those remote control stop working.

then there is the matter of Top-down A.Is, they are too risky to use. they are not flexible enough for war, in a war u can't know everything the enemy is gonna use and Top-down A.Is can never make their own decision.
this is a huge exploit, imagine the enemy find a loophole and ur whole army might go down.

don't except all the Top-down AIs to be like Yui, she had 2 years of data from 10000 player in a intense emotional mood to be able to become so human like.
where can they find so many human subject to scan for such a long time to create another self-aware Top-Down AIs ?

Next about Alice and how they wanted their new AI army etc it's not spoiler as it was all understood in this part of novel and was cut from anime in this EP, but I put it in spoiler tag :

Nov 10, 2018 1:36 PM

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salbery755 said:
The true purpose of the Alicization Project is really fucked up.
Asuna learns the true goal of Kikuoka, creating the perfect AI using real souls. The example with Hiro's copy was quite creepy and cruel. They also give us information about fluctlight, STL and how it was developed Underworld.
It was nice to see a familiar face in the care of Kirito, the nurse who took care of him in previous events, Aki reveals that she is a military nurse and that her mission in Ocean Turtle is to take care of him.
In the end the habitants of Underworld are not NPC, but copies of souls ... WOW I did not expect thar and knowing that they created a religion was more than impressive.
Rinko reveals a bit of her past with Kayaba and also talks about the SAO incident, she also apologizes to Asuna, although she responds that she feels that she shouldn´t do it since it was that incident in SAO that made her know Kirito.
By the name of the next episode, it seems that they will refocus on Kirito and Eugeo's trip to the capital.

It depends about the trip. It's hard to pinpoint the time between the two.

If 300 years = 3 weeks or was it 3 months in the Real world then what does a day mean or an hour.

It says that 2 days passed in the underworld after Alice broke a taboo so how long had passed in the Real world???

And how far behind is the Real world to the underworld between the time kitro woke up - killed the goblins - cut the tree - sword training which apparently took like a week or so in the underworld. All of this could have happend Within in a few days or even hours.

Mattinator95Nov 10, 2018 2:18 PM

Nov 10, 2018 1:38 PM

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Perfect recipe for AI uprising

Nov 10, 2018 1:43 PM

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Wow, I really enjoyed this episode, with these revelations about Project Alicization, etc. This new season is taking a direction that the others have failed to arrive, in a more somber and complex story. I think this anime will be the best of the season.

5/5 obviously.

"No matter where you go, everyone's connected." Iwakura, Lain.

Nov 10, 2018 2:05 PM

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Okay so this was a good EP,

my only complain about it is about a few changes many.
there was also a few remove which i wish would not be removed but it was minor and it's understandable since there is limited time in anime.

Biggest complain is, They removed the scene in EP5, that Asuna and Yui research more on Rath, guess it's relation to Bottom up AIs using the A.L.C word kirito said before and figuring it's relation to government and such !
That's not good but okay ! not that important ! but then they fucked up !

because they seems to somehow want to retcon it and make Asuna tell the other girls about Rath being about Bottom-up AIs and such ... and then had her connect to ALO from Ocean Turtle ?!?!

It was specifically mentioned that not only Asuna, but no one in the damn ship got free access to the internet, and it completely made sense coz it's a secret military base doing research.
but in anime Asuna got internet and just connect to ALO and tell everyone about Rath like it's no biggie :|

Rath had it's own satellite and would only connect to it's other branch in the city with the other 2 STL machine. but it was not connected to any internet :|

so I really didn't like this part.

other than the above change,
I kinda wish they said it that they first sent other people inside the UnderWorld w'o any memories but they end up becoming very depressed/uncomfortable and could not live like a normal person, they were even less lively than normal A.I.

then they sent Kirito and not only he was okay and not uncomfortable while living in UnderWorld,

He also effected both the boy and the girl who were close to him and made them both more mischievous and likely to break the taboo index.

here was also the scene where Asuna looked as if she expected this outcome from ppl close to Kirito to get influenced by him lol

But this is not that important I guess, so not gonna complain about simplifying this.

then there is also the cut scene about Ichimon ( 1EMON ) and Niemon ( 2EMON) the 2 robot, wish they showed us now, coz they are used later in the story and they were shown to us many volume before they are used in the novel, so kind of a good built up and foreshadowing !
but anime just removed them :|

there was also a scene about Yui after Higa's clone that was removed, not that important now but good insight into story
no spoiler i guess but i put it in one :

oh one last thing it was not mentioned why 2 day pass before they get to alice,

Nov 10, 2018 2:07 PM

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Lelouch0202 said:
Good episode, I guess this was the info dump episode.

First of all, I'm quite surprised that Kikuoka is so open with sharing what's supposed to be confidential information to the point Asuna even tells the rest of the girls but I guess we can overlook it cause anime. xD

Yup this part annoyed me, that's so stupid

Nov 10, 2018 2:15 PM

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Does anyone else find it hilarious that Asuna just easily gets into a super secret base just by wearing a wig? xD

This has been a decent episode, but really, I just want to know how things go with Eugeo, Alice and Kirito.

Nov 10, 2018 2:48 PM

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So if there is a simple way to summarize the entire episode. This is info given on trying to make an AI to kill or be used as tools of war? I mean it just makes wonder if there would be a major problem to that. Anyone remembering the Terminator?

Nov 10, 2018 3:12 PM

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It was a good and pretty important exposition episode.

Nov 10, 2018 3:18 PM

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wolfwing said:
How is the series doing with the novilization? Is it skipping too much or being abotu the right par? The way the novel was described it sounded like we wouldn't even know about the real world till like episode 10-20

You mean how is it adaptationwise?

If so then they are really nailing it when it comes to accuracy. I'm honestly surprised because it's really god damn hard to find any convo/exposition that they'd have missed.

As for the real world - they were still accurate. All of the events from today's episode happened really early in the novels.

Nov 10, 2018 3:21 PM

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Oussema said:

Lelouch0202 said:
Good episode, I guess this was the info dump episode.

First of all, I'm quite surprised that Kikuoka is so open with sharing what's supposed to be confidential information to the point Asuna even tells the rest of the girls but I guess we can overlook it cause anime. xD

Yup this part annoyed me, that's so stupid

It is not that the information will be told to the first one that he saw when connecting, the information is told to people of confidence that like Asuna are worried about the state of Kirito, to divulge this information would suppose that the recovery of Kirito could be in danger something that none of the girls wants.

Nov 10, 2018 3:23 PM

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A lot of information this episode, but this was needed to explain how the STL works and what exactly is going on with Kirito. It became quite interesting.

Nov 10, 2018 3:26 PM

#82

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If anyone is curious as to the validity of the 'science' behind this episode:

Supervised machine learning = Top down approach
Unsupervised machine learning = Bottom up approach
Artificial General Intelligence = AI that can emulate human intelligence.

As for the explanations, they were pretty subpar, but the author isn't an AI researcher so it can't be helped. Both supervised and unsupervised machine learning are used in specific fields to find patterns in data, such as spam filtering on your email or predicting housing prices. AGI is a fantasy right now.

Nov 10, 2018 3:28 PM

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This episode was ok. I would like to know more about Kayaba, but I know the series won’t focus too much on him.

Maybe I’ll be around next week...MAYBE.

Nov 10, 2018 3:43 PM

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Zinzoo said:

wolfwing said:
How is the series doing with the novilization? Is it skipping too much or being abotu the right par? The way the novel was described it sounded like we wouldn't even know about the real world till like episode 10-20

You mean how is it adaptationwise?

If so then they are really nailing it when it comes to accuracy. I'm honestly surprised because it's really god damn hard to find any convo/exposition that they'd have missed.

As for the real world - they were still accurate. All of the events from today's episode happened really early in the novels.

Ahhh good just seemed to say we don't find out whats going on for a while, and we learn in like second episode why I was wondering.

Nov 10, 2018 4:16 PM

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Shadzzo said:
>rights of artificial intelligence

Sigh this moralfag called Asuna is so annoying. I want to go back to adventures with shota brothers already.

It's literally explained in the episode that those are copies of real human beings.

Nov 10, 2018 4:20 PM

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GuidedCursor said:
"1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless."
>Asuna : "I'm angry as hell"

*a couple thousands people died during SAO*
>Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito."

Really? This is what you interpreted? The event at SAO happened 3 years ago in their world, Asuna can't do anything for the people she killed and died on the incident. She even says that with Rinko in how none of them can change the past now that everything happened, which is totally different than now when she's seeing this at the very moment.

Nov 10, 2018 5:02 PM

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caio_brb said:

Shadzzo said:
>rights of artificial intelligence

Sigh this moralfag called Asuna is so annoying. I want to go back to adventures with shota brothers already.

It's literally explained in the episode that those are copies of real human beings.

Computer AI that thinks its a real human* They dont have a real human body.

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Nov 10, 2018 5:26 PM

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So apparently the researchers want AI who can disobey them so they can use said AI in war. Skynet rofl.

Pretty sure the Axiom Church finding "loopholes" in the programming is a form of disobedience as well so they already have their Skynet?

Scientists baffled that AI living in a world without a lack of resources under a security system/religion that can immediately detect any violation in the world's "law" and take action are much less violent and more obedient than humans on Earth.

The researchers think they currently have AI that will follow strict orders and rigid social structure without question and apparently think that is not ideal for a soldier.

Why would human soldiers be relevant in a world where nukes exist?

They let Asuna leak extremely confidential information while on a top secret base. Then again their top secret base got compromised by a wig, hat and sunglasses.

Awful episode. Dunno why they couldn't just stick with the original theme of the show. This military antagonist stuff is beyond stupid.

Nov 10, 2018 5:37 PM

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Hey @Waterlord
I removed your comment because I can't reply to you.

Very mature of you to talk shit about somebody just because they have a different opinion of SAO.
And you have comments disabled on your profile. What a coward.

Also, it looks like you can't see the show in an objective way, since you have anything SAO related in a positive rating. Oh well.

TodAboTNov 10, 2018 5:42 PM

Nov 10, 2018 5:45 PM

#90

Tougen

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Prety disapointing and useless episode, again, this was worse than filler....Ok, we got it, they took Kirito away to heal him while he helps the dudes test those super people based AI. For me that just ruins the potential suspense this revelation could've had further on. It would've been much better to keep us on suspense soo we could learn this stuff when the MC learns it.

Lets not even talk about how ridiculous is the notion of them wanting AI that can disobey orders to use them in a war, and that they are creating those AI in a peacefull envyroment, or why the fuck you would want your war AI to have a fucking personality. There would be many uses to this kind of AI, but warzones is seriously the most ridiculous and most stupid reason you would want an AI like this.

But i guess we have to be reminded this is SAO, and that kirito has a harem, i thought maybe this series had hope to finaly have some actual good story instead of just eye candy action...This and the last episode was the punch in the gut i needed to remenber the huge wasted potential this series alwways had, and will likely, ever have.

TougenNov 10, 2018 5:55 PM

Nov 10, 2018 5:48 PM

#91

MaceChan

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Yeah, gonna drop this. I couldn't even finish this episode. I liked the previous seasons with all it's flaws and whatnot, but these past six episodes were unbearable to watch.

Nov 10, 2018 5:51 PM

#92

Herba

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-_- _/\_(■■■■■♡■■■■

Nov 10, 2018 6:02 PM

#93

tidoesstuff

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I have so many questions but they don't really matter...

Asuna seemed so off;
Goes all the way to kikuouka to find the truth
Satisfied with some half-ar*ed answer
Wtf

How old are kirito and asuna? Are they actually married now? (I've forgotten)

Nov 10, 2018 6:37 PM

#94

ComboSmooth

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this author needs to stop trying to explain things..... He doesnt understand how computers work, how ai works, how science works, how politics works or anything.
Before the explanation its all fine, dandy and mysterious but every time he explains something, he makes it dumber.

https://combosmooth.itch.io/ - I make free-to-play browser games for PC and I sell pixel art animation here

Nov 10, 2018 6:43 PM

#95

Putrisalsal

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another shit episode come on focuse in underworld asuna and another girl is annoying asf

Nov 10, 2018 6:47 PM

#96

Putrisalsal

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why asuna and another girl have so much screen time but the main character is not to much even klein and agil is forgotten if they dont come back to underworld i drop this shit

Nov 10, 2018 7:17 PM

#97

FuMomo-kun

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This was okay, until they started talking about the rights of computer generated souls. I can understand it, but I don't really care about it.

I can't wait to know if Blond Kirito is a real human or not. I hope he is.

I am not a big fan of the female characters in this anime, so I really liked how Kirito got most of the focus this time. Then, we went back to the girls! Asuna is cool, but the other girls are just . . . well. . . quite boring.

Nov 10, 2018 7:33 PM

#98

GlitterRylie

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Mar 2018

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Such a shame that this level of detailed art and animation are being wasted on such a boring show.

Nov 10, 2018 7:35 PM

#99

-Riptide-

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Shadzzo said:

caio_brb said:

It's literally explained in the episode that those are copies of real human beings.

Computer AI that thinks its a real human* They dont have a real human body.

It's a human soul but without a body. That's basically the difference between inhabitants of the Underworld and people from the real world.

Nov 10, 2018 7:38 PM

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HiraKey

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MonkeyDMike said:

Fluxje said:

On a more brighter note, her personality might not have grown, but her boobs got bigger since Alicization

Lol I like your way of thinking.

I agree with all of you, lmao

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