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May 17, 2018 2:04 AM
#102
Plot twist: she's the first Muslim Marvel superhero but the film is bound to be banned in at least one Muslim country because her clothing is considered haram |
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May 17, 2018 2:12 AM
#103
Psyotic said: Cool but a movie doesn't have to state anything offensive to be good.DrGeroCreation said: @Psyotic My question was "Is Family Guy a masterpiece because it's offensive?" and your reply was "To some degree yes. Then let me amend that statement to be "no". Something that needs to be stated will often be offensive, but something being offensive does not mean that it needs to be stated. Psyotic said: Most movies are for making money. That doesn't mean all art in general is solely for money.Except you did |
May 17, 2018 6:17 AM
#104
Ramzee said: Yeah lets celebrate women discriminating against themselves!! Word's couldn't be truer. I'm sick of this SJW, PC mentality. Of course, the media will blow this movie up by claiming that it's the best movie ever created like they did with Black Panther, and if you don't like it, well than you're misogynistic and xenophobic. |
May 17, 2018 7:26 AM
#105
DrGeroCreation said: Kamala made her debut in the Avengers anime already. Funny how I don't here weeaboo cunts on Mal crying about that. Typical hypocrite scum. No problem with Kamala being in anime Avengers but oh no it's so bad for her to be in the MCU . http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/10/03-1/ms-marvel-prepares-to-make-her-anime-debut-in-future-avengers @Psyotic The MCU has touched on government control, casualties in combat , loyalty etc. LOL Family Guy to some degree is a masterpiece because it is offensive? Pissing people off can make you lose money because the pissed off people could boycott your product. Also movies are mainly to make money for studios. No offense to you and forgive me for being presumptuous but going by your avi you seem like an elitist that considers any non arthouse movie to be bland and bad. I could be wrong but that's the vibes I'm getting. Not every movie has to be symbolic or be deep to be good. The MCU has good character development, character backstory and decent world building which should be taken into consideration. I can tell you that the anime won't be the propaganda fest, the comics and mostly a movie starring her will be. We have issues with the warped, false, and sometimes downright bigoted and tyrannical messages the comics have infiltrating the movies. The SJW comic pros at Marvel have been proven to be dangerous ideologues and toxic to the medium and absolutely want these horrible messages and propaganda in the movies. |
May 17, 2018 7:43 AM
#106
@Hoppy What is the propaganda about her in the comics? So you've read the currently non existent script of the movie already to know it's propaganda? As I said before you people are no different from sjws always being paranoid and complaining about everything. |
May 17, 2018 7:56 AM
#107
DrGeroCreation said: @Hoppy What is the propaganda about her in the comics? So you've read the currently non existent script of the movie already to know it's propaganda? As I said before you people are no different from sjws always being paranoid and complaining about everything. Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. |
May 17, 2018 8:02 AM
#108
Hoppy said: So the premise of her being a Muslim superhero is far left propaganda? She should be a terrorist instead so that it wouldn't be propaganda?DrGeroCreation said: @Hoppy What is the propaganda about her in the comics? So you've read the currently non existent script of the movie already to know it's propaganda? As I said before you people are no different from sjws always being paranoid and complaining about everything. Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. |
May 17, 2018 9:16 AM
#109
>getting triggered and butthurt over a harmless fictional comic book character in 2018 LMAO you guys are hilarious |
May 17, 2018 9:52 AM
#110
DrGeroCreation said: Hoppy said: So the premise of her being a Muslim superhero is far left propaganda? She should be a terrorist instead so that it wouldn't be propaganda?DrGeroCreation said: @Hoppy What is the propaganda about her in the comics? So you've read the currently non existent script of the movie already to know it's propaganda? As I said before you people are no different from sjws always being paranoid and complaining about everything. Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. No, she should have simple heroic adventures and at least a normal civilian life or a happy life. None of this talk about religious extremism and bigotry, and more escapism please. |
May 17, 2018 10:08 AM
#111
Hoppy said: DrGeroCreation said: Hoppy said: DrGeroCreation said: @Hoppy What is the propaganda about her in the comics? So you've read the currently non existent script of the movie already to know it's propaganda? As I said before you people are no different from sjws always being paranoid and complaining about everything. Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. No, she should have simple heroic adventures and at least a normal civilian life or a happy life. None of this talk about religious extremism and bigotry, and more escapism please. In comic books Marvel superheroes for a long time provided situations and narratives analogous to or equally similar to the societal issues we face in real life. To a lesser extent we have non-political themes in Spiderman, where it's a coming of age story of a teenager who has to deal with Oedipus guilt and his anti-social tendencies, and even then politics is referenced in multiple occasions. At one part it became an interesting character struggle: Spiderman as a hero stood as a symbol of law (to himself and others), and Peter Parker the student with his own worldly worries and biases sympathized with communism and militant leftism (1960s politics, not talking about SJWs). Then we have the analogy of race relations between mutants and humans in X-men, or the fact that Captain America was completely created with conscious political intentions. There's a deep history of Marvel characters attacking real life issues, so I find it confusing why so many people like you suddenly become against it the moment an ethnic minority character (like Miles Morales or this case Ms. Marvel) does it. If you want pure escapism, perhaps just stick to hentai. |
May 17, 2018 10:15 AM
#112
I am sure Miss Marvel is social justice warrior propaganda.But Marvel comics and DC Comics have been about diversity,discrimination and other stuff for a long time. But usually they just created new characters like Black Panther, Luke Cage, Storm, Gabe Jones,Storm, Misty Knight,Rage, Bishop and so on.I think many peoples' problem is the fact they took already existing heroes and changed their race,sex or sexual preference. They made Iceman a homosexual , MS. Marvel a Muslim girl, Thor a woman, Spider-man a half Hispanic and black male and so on. Of course Marvel and DC comics occasionally do story lines of alternate world versions of characters or people who become a successor to a hero . |
May 17, 2018 10:45 AM
#113
Hoppy said: Marvel and DC superheroes don't have simple happy lives and deal with real world problems.No, she should have simple heroic adventures and at least a normal civilian life or a happy life. None of this talk about religious extremism and bigotry, and more escapism please. Like Speedy getting hooked on heroin in the 70's or Tony's alcohol addiction. ezikialrage said: Ms Marvel who became Captain Marvel wasn't changed to a Muslim girl. Kamala Khan is a separate character from Carol Denvers. Carol Denvers is now Captain Marvel and Kamala is now Ms Marvel. Kamala is a fangirl of Carol.I think many peoples' problem is the fact they took already existing heroes and changed their race,sex or sexual preference. MS. Marvel a Muslim girl, Thor a woman, Spider-man a half Hispanic and black male and so on. Of course Marvel and DC comics occasionally do story lines of alternate world versions of characters or people who become a successor to a hero . Thor isn't a woman. Fem Thor was Thor's girlfriend (Jane Foster) with his powers. In the comics Thor recently got back his powers and an axe. Miles Morales isn't Peter parker Spiderman and from the Ultimate universe. There are different spidermen from different universes. |
DrGeroCreationMay 17, 2018 11:32 AM
May 17, 2018 2:28 PM
#114
Sarkja said: @Hoppy I have already seen some of your post, for you any woman who is not a housewife and does not have children is a sjw, I hope that one day you will receive what you deserve. You're blowing things way out of proportion. |
May 17, 2018 2:42 PM
#115
Sarkja said: Hoppy said: Sarkja said: @Hoppy I have already seen some of your post, for you any woman who is not a housewife and does not have children is a sjw, I hope that one day you will receive what you deserve. You're blowing things way out of proportion. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1605096&show=0#post1 To say that the objective of a woman in life is to form a family ... If i had authoritarian power, you would be executed. Third or fourth wave feminist alert. For one, radical feminism did leave her life in despair, which is not a good thing in the slightest especially at her age, she should be enjoying her golden years, and second your last sentence is typical radical 3rd and 4th wave feminist fantasy, I hear it all the time especially from comics pros to consumers fantasizing about killing republicans or kicking men in the teeth, you are bitter and need help. |
May 17, 2018 2:55 PM
#116
Sarkja said: Hoppy said: Sarkja said: Hoppy said: Sarkja said: @Hoppy I have already seen some of your post, for you any woman who is not a housewife and does not have children is a sjw, I hope that one day you will receive what you deserve. You're blowing things way out of proportion. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1605096&show=0#post1 To say that the objective of a woman in life is to form a family ... If i had authoritarian power, you would be executed. Third or fourth wave feminist alert. For one, radical feminism did leave her life in despair, which is not a good thing in the slightest especially at her age, she should be enjoying her golden years, and second your last sentence is typical radical 3rd and 4th wave feminist fantasy, I hear it all the time especially from comics pros to consumers fantasizing about killing republicans or kicking men in the teeth, you are bitter and need help. You do not have to be a feminist to be against people like you, fascists and Muslims are two sides of the same coin. Both treat women like trash and seek to censor the individual freedom of the people. With 32 years you have, your life must have been full of failures and disappointments, to tell others how they have to live theirs. People like you, could not change anything. I will continue my life focusing on my projects and goals and your toxic ideology will disappear with the years. I'm not a fascist though. |
May 17, 2018 3:19 PM
#117
I can't say it's surprising considering Marvel's recent actions, but I wonder just how much success they are expecting to get from such a relatively new character. |
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May 17, 2018 4:29 PM
#118
Yeaaa.... no. Black Cat is definitely not their best movie yet, it's pretty generic, it's on the weaker side of the MCU. Being supportive of black people doesn't boost a show's quality in the slightest, and let's be honest - that's the only reason why the movie's hype was so blown out of proportion anyways. MCU's best still remain the Iron Man movies and Spider-Man: Homecoming. |
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May 17, 2018 6:21 PM
#119
hazarddex said: I like how you actually said detective comics instead of tards who say dc comicshey Gal Gadot made a good wonder woman ill take the wait and see stance with this. although i know almost nothing about miss marvel. then again i know little about the marvel universe other then spiderman and the xmen. more of a detective comics fan. sadly those movies with the exception of the wonder woman movie were not good. What I dont like is you think wonder woman was good. it was as bad as the rest. the superman one was actually better than the last superman movie. but the rest... *fake vomit face* |
May 17, 2018 6:22 PM
#120
Bayek said: Am I the only one who read this line in a british accent?"By golly, that sounds brilliant! We've entered the Second Renaissance!" |
May 17, 2018 7:49 PM
#121
KuroudoAkabane said: I think of the Adoring Fan from Oblivion.Bayek said: Am I the only one who read this line in a british accent?"By golly, that sounds brilliant! We've entered the Second Renaissance!" "By Azura, by Azura, by Azura! It's the Muslim Grand Champion!" |
May 17, 2018 9:04 PM
#122
Marvel is a white, blond haired girl. Not a middle-eastern women. Hollywood and our current society loves to play the racist card when it comes to this type of stuff, but when movies decide to switch out a white member for a member of a different race then it "isn't racist". Leave them how they should be, please. [me leaving out dozens of Muslim jokes in fear of ban. Tears shed, humor lost] |
May 17, 2018 9:07 PM
#123
At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really |
May 17, 2018 9:44 PM
#124
Nightmare21st said: At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really Its been like that since movies existed. |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 17, 2018 9:45 PM
#125
hazarddex said: Nightmare21st said: At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really Its been like that since movies existed. I know but now its much more prominent and annoying |
May 17, 2018 9:50 PM
#126
Nightmare21st said: hazarddex said: Nightmare21st said: At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really Its been like that since movies existed. I know but now its much more prominent and annoying Then stop watch reading etc fiction or even non fiction. your basicly complaining that waters wet. This isent even that prominent. If you want promenet go back to the ww2 era or Vietnam that's more prominent Nyu said: Hoppy said: Nyu said: NudeBear said: Nyu said: NudeBear said: Lost_Viking said: Ramzee said: The funny thing is this won't just piss off the non-soy-drinking Marvel fans that were already alienated by diversity quotas but it'll piss off traditional/conservative Muslims as well.Yeah lets celebrate women discriminating against themselves!! 1337Taste said: Is this a joke? Black Panther sucked so bad I had to quit watching it less than 20 minutes in.This going to be the Oscar worthy material. No doubt about it. Black Panther was their best movie yet, but this is going to be leagues better. Anyone else excited for this? ALIENATED LMFAO Holy fuck your persecution complex is amazing. How entitled, do White people complain about the lack of whites being represented in Japanese, Chinese and Indian media, no that's because we are not entitled, but you do have foreigners saying that foreigners should be represented in the media of white nations. Non-white Americans aren't foreigners, they're Americans. Ethnic representation is about having proper representation of major non-white ethnic groups that live in America. it has nothing to do with appealing to foreigners. Hias said: Killaclown said: correction, characters that were purposely changed to adhere to and often push SJW propaganda (dont know about this particular one), where even the company itself will claim racism if you dont buy their comics...... yeah sounds like SJW trash to me lol Diversifying stories and characters and bringing new/different perspectives isn't SJW trash. What kind of propaganda is "hey, you know how this industry has been over saturated with white men for the last 70+ years? Maybe we should give voices to others"? It's propaganda and pushing a narrative because artists want to bring their perspectives to Marvel or DC comics and characters that just weren't there or represented previously? If you feel threatened because of that and just dismiss it as "SJW trash" then I don't know what to tell you. Other than I guess have fun whining about poc having starring roles in movies and comics on the internet while everyone else might be reading these comics or going to see these movies and enjoying them. I find it hilarious that these guys have to make wanting more non-white and female characters sound so sinister. The majority of non-whites in America are foreigners as they Immigrated to America after the 1965 Immigration Act, which the white population who founded and built America were against. And since whites are a minority, whites are only 8% of the population, that means we should be represented 100% of the time in Western media, just like how the Japanese get Japanese media. Now that's going off the deep end and it's hilarious as well. So you have no argument, the Japanese and Chinese get 100% representation in the media of their nations. 100% eh? you have not seen a lot of anime have you? Kekai sensen most the cast are not 100% Japanese black lagoon. again most the cast is not 100% Japanese jourmongand most the case is not 100% Japanese gundam a large portion of gundom that take place in the Universal century and even some outside that most the cast is not 100% Japanese silent voice black Brazilian and mixed black and Japanese daughter. not 100% Japanese cast. mezzo DSA black adopted father of a Japanese girl not 100% Japanese Heroman takes place in america. not 100% Japanese One piece many of the characters are from all over. again not 100% Japanese ghost hunt not 100% Japanese. john is from Australia. Bounen no Xamdou not100% Japanese. Code Geass not 100% Japanese Darker than Black. not 100% Japanese. Gosick majotiry are not Japanese. Gunslinger Girl not 100% Japanese. JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken not 100% Japanese. Planetes not 100% Japanese. Baccano! and Duarara not 100% Japanese Hellsing not 100% Japanese Fate/series not 100% Japanese. dimension W not 100% japanese. to aru majtusu no index not 100% japanese. (hell one of the major characters is a Aztec.) to name a FEW. |
GrimAtramentMay 17, 2018 10:21 PM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 17, 2018 11:59 PM
#127
Nightmare21st said: At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really lol what makes you think this is propaganda? Hoppy said: Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. Fuck has Marvel started calling for the working class to seize the means of production and denying the Holodomor? News to me. |
People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
May 18, 2018 12:45 AM
#128
Okay but the new Ms. Marvel is actually super fun and enjoyable and not at all preachy about the diversity thing as some of Marvel's other new characters. So this movie could be pretty good. |
May 18, 2018 1:38 AM
#129
This is why I stopped watching anything from Hollywood. It's all diversity propaganda. The funny thing is though is that Hollywood's virtue signalling costs them money and sales because people don't like to pay money to be preached to. |
May 18, 2018 3:58 AM
#130
-Placeholder- said: This is why I stopped watching anything from Hollywood. It's all diversity propaganda. The funny thing is though is that Hollywood's virtue signalling costs them money and sales because people don't like to pay money to be preached to. But Black Phanter is literally one of their most successful movies ever. |
May 18, 2018 4:04 AM
#131
AdolChri said: But Black Phanter is literally one of their most successful movies ever. Black Panther is basically about a Black ethnostate. |
May 18, 2018 4:07 AM
#132
-Placeholder- said: AdolChri said: But Black Phanter is literally one of their most successful movies ever. Black Panther is basically about a Black ethnostate. It has a black super-hero who is successful. I'm sure it's enough for you conservatives to call it "forced diversity" and "propaganda" and all the buzzwords you can come up with. |
May 18, 2018 4:50 AM
#133
AdolChri said: It has a black super-hero who is successful. I'm sure it's enough for you conservatives to call it "forced diversity" and "propaganda" and all the buzzwords you can come up with. Yes, we "conservatives" just hate black people and any black people who are successful. You're definitely making an honest attempt to understand different worldviews than yours. |
May 18, 2018 4:59 AM
#134
-Placeholder- said: AdolChri said: It has a black super-hero who is successful. I'm sure it's enough for you conservatives to call it "forced diversity" and "propaganda" and all the buzzwords you can come up with. Yes, we "conservatives" just hate black people and any black people who are successful. You're definitely making an honest attempt to understand different worldviews than yours. Yeah. Hence you keep complaining about "diversity propaganda" every time they make a movie featuring not-white, not-straight lead in a sea of white, straight super heroes. |
May 18, 2018 5:05 AM
#135
AdolChri said: Yeah. Hence you keep complaining about "diversity propaganda" every time they make a movie featuring not-white, not-straight lead in a sea of white, straight super heroes. I don't think you understand what sarcasm is. |
May 18, 2018 6:54 AM
#136
-Placeholder- said: AdolChri said: Yeah. Hence you keep complaining about "diversity propaganda" every time they make a movie featuring not-white, not-straight lead in a sea of white, straight super heroes. I don't think you understand what sarcasm is. Too bad everyone knows who you are, around here. |
May 18, 2018 6:59 AM
#137
Yes yes very nice mate đź‘Ť |
May 18, 2018 7:27 AM
#138
The entire Western genre, which dominated Hollywood for a half a century, is patriarchal, colonialist, NRA propaganda. It's still good though. |
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May 18, 2018 7:43 AM
#139
Josh said: The entire Western genre, which dominated Hollywood for a half a century, is patriarchal, colonialist, NRA propaganda. It's still good though. It wasn't propaganda, it was merely a product of the societal values at the time. The current movies are propaganda because they are an attempt to normalise the cultural-Marxist values of the Left-wing Hollywood elites on to the general population. |
May 18, 2018 7:52 AM
#140
Psyotic said: Nightmare21st said: At this point I can't enjoy a major blockbuster without being bombarded by propaganda, its sad really lol what makes you think this is propaganda? Hoppy said: Th majority of the premise of the comics is far left propaganda. Fuck has Marvel started calling for the working class to seize the means of production and denying the Holodomor? News to me. The very last issue of All New Wolverine had a synopsis involved the killing of the last straight man on Earth. SJWs hate straight men (they're starting to even hate straight non-white men anymore as look at how the SJWs neutered Blade lately). |
May 18, 2018 9:24 AM
#141
-Placeholder- said: It wasn't propaganda, it was merely a product of the societal values at the time. So when it's politics you believe in, it's just societal values, but when it's not, it's propaganda? You do realize that societal values aren't static, right? The current movies are propaganda because they are an attempt to normalise the cultural-Marxist values of the Left-wing Hollywood elites on to the general population. I don't think you know what those words mean. How is showing minority characters and talking about issues affecting the minority community normalizing Marxist values? |
May 18, 2018 9:33 AM
#142
Lost_Viking said: Is this a joke? Black Panther sucked so bad I had to quit watching it less than 20 minutes in. Hey man, you can't just go around saying things like that. Black Panther had a lot of black people in it and was directed by a black person. If you don't like it's because you're obviously racist, and definitely not because it was a bad movie. Wonder Woman had a female lead and a female director, so if you didn't like it, you're obviously sexist, and definitely not someone with actual taste in movies. If you don't overhype this movie and start calling it "oscar-worthy" years before it comes out, you're obviously islamophobic, and definitely not a person with a brain. |
May 18, 2018 9:37 AM
#143
Anti-Agelast said: So when it's politics you believe in, it's just societal values, but when it's not, it's propaganda? You do realize that societal values aren't static, right? The current movies are propaganda because they are an attempt to normalise the cultural-Marxist values of the Left-wing Hollywood elites on to the general population. I don't think you know what those words mean. How is showing minority characters and talking about issues affecting the minority community normalizing Marxist values? It's not society's values because most people don't care about having a black, gay, transsexual etc. main character in their movie. They just want to watch a good movie and don't care about "minority issues". If they did, they would watch something like the Wire. And I don't mind propaganda, the problem is when you sneak your propaganda in to mediums where it doesn't belong, like super hero movies. Marxism has shifted from being anti-capitalist (since that form of Marxism has failed so many times) to instead a culturally-relativist view that targets the cultural norms of Western society. For example, things like Whiteness, gender roles, morality and religion are targeted. If you didn't understand this, then it wouldn't make sense that the Left would be such strong supported of Islam, despite the ideology going against everything they purport to stand for. |
May 18, 2018 9:52 AM
#144
-Placeholder- said: Anti-Agelast said: So when it's politics you believe in, it's just societal values, but when it's not, it's propaganda? You do realize that societal values aren't static, right? The current movies are propaganda because they are an attempt to normalise the cultural-Marxist values of the Left-wing Hollywood elites on to the general population. I don't think you know what those words mean. How is showing minority characters and talking about issues affecting the minority community normalizing Marxist values? It's not society's values because most people don't care about having a black, gay, transsexual etc. main character in their movie. They just want to watch a good movie and don't care about "minority issues". If they did, they would watch something like the Wire. And I don't mind propaganda, the problem is when you sneak your propaganda in to mediums where it doesn't belong, like super hero movies. Marxism has shifted from being anti-capitalist (since that form of Marxism has failed so many times) to instead a culturally-relativist view that targets the cultural norms of Western society. For example, things like Whiteness, gender roles, morality and religion are targeted. If you didn't understand this, then it wouldn't make sense that the Left would be such strong supported of Islam, despite the ideology going against everything they purport to stand for. Lol your only complaining about it. because it does suit YOUR narrative super hero comic have allways full of messages its been that way since marvel and dc existed. Messageless art doesn't often sell. Xmen was allways about fighting prejudice. Captan america patriotism. just to name a few |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 18, 2018 9:56 AM
#146
hazarddex said: Lol your only complaining about it. because it does suit YOUR narrative super hero comic have allways full of messages its been that way since marvel and dc existed. Messageless art doesn't often sell. Xmen was allways about fighting prejudice. Captan america patriotism. just to name a few I never said art didn't have any messages, what I said is that the messages that are being promoted recently are bad and destructive. |
May 18, 2018 9:58 AM
#147
-Placeholder- said: hazarddex said: Lol your only complaining about it. because it does suit YOUR narrative super hero comic have allways full of messages its been that way since marvel and dc existed. Messageless art doesn't often sell. Xmen was allways about fighting prejudice. Captan america patriotism. just to name a few I never said art didn't have any messages, what I said is that the messages that are being promoted recently are bad and destructive. Name us some destructive messages these super-heroes movies are spreading. -Placeholder- said: Anti-Agelast said: So when it's politics you believe in, it's just societal values, but when it's not, it's propaganda? You do realize that societal values aren't static, right? The current movies are propaganda because they are an attempt to normalise the cultural-Marxist values of the Left-wing Hollywood elites on to the general population. I don't think you know what those words mean. How is showing minority characters and talking about issues affecting the minority community normalizing Marxist values? It's not society's values because most people don't care about having a black, gay, transsexual etc. main character in their movie. They just want to watch a good movie and don't care about "minority issues". If they did, they would watch something like the Wire. And I don't mind propaganda, the problem is when you sneak your propaganda in to mediums where it doesn't belong, like super hero movies. Marxism has shifted from being anti-capitalist (since that form of Marxism has failed so many times) to instead a culturally-relativist view that targets the cultural norms of Western society. For example, things like Whiteness, gender roles, morality and religion are targeted. If you didn't understand this, then it wouldn't make sense that the Left would be such strong supported of Islam, despite the ideology going against everything they purport to stand for. Do you realize how insane these rantings sound outside of /pol/ and your neo-nazi circles, right? |
AdolChriMay 18, 2018 10:02 AM
May 18, 2018 9:58 AM
#148
Movie's gonna be a bomb! Hope it will be directed by Michael Bay. |
May 18, 2018 10:00 AM
#149
Hoppy said: The very last issue of All New Wolverine had a synopsis involved the killing of the last straight man on Earth. SJWs hate straight men (they're starting to even hate straight non-white men anymore as look at how the SJWs neutered Blade lately). I don't even read comics and this sounds dumb as fuck. It's like saying antifa are Nazis because Antifa use violence and Nazis like violence. It totally ignores any sort of context surrounding the situation. |
People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
May 18, 2018 10:35 AM
#150
-Placeholder- said: It's not society's values because most people don't care about having a black, gay, transsexual etc. main character in their movie. Black, gay and transsexual people are part of society too, and they care about these things. They just want to watch a good movie and don't care about "minority issues". These two things aren't mutually exclusive. And I don't mind propaganda, the problem is when you sneak your propaganda in to mediums where it doesn't belong, like super hero movies. Politics have been in comics books since their conception. Who are you to say they don't belong there? Marxism has shifted from being anti-capitalist (since that form of Marxism has failed so many times) to instead a culturally-relativist view that targets the cultural norms of Western society. For example, things like Whiteness, gender roles, morality and religion are targeted. Minority races, gender roles, and religions getting a more prominent role in society isn't putting any of these things you mentioned under attack. If you didn't understand this, then it wouldn't make sense that the Left would be such strong supported of Islam, despite the ideology going against everything they purport to stand for. You can support Muslims and their right to practice their religion without believing in everything that religion does, you know. |
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