| @Bobby2Hands I agree with Darek, you'd have to have zero faith in humanity to think OP is legit and not some CE user having fun. @KouhaiHasNoticed heh. Show me where the evil SJWs touched you. |
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Bobby2Hands said: jal90 said: An actual display of knowledge would be fine, for example citing anime from this season and looking in depth which ones have fanservice and which ones don't. You are the one who is playing dumb here. Again I'm not gonna sit here and give you an itemized list of evidence. If you wanna see all the objectification going on this season then just go look at all the gifs and MamsterP's profile page. You know why this is a meme?  Because anime has a shit ton of sexual objectification, that's why. You answer me with a meme? And to answer what exactly? I know that sexual objectification exists in anime, thanks for the info. And I'm not asking you to give me evidence, but the one who set this debate in the first place, and has been laughing at us by creating such a low-effort thread with zero backup to their claims and actually telling us to prove their points wrong. Also if you want to make a case for One Piece (last picture on the right) you better find a scene that does not imply the character getting a tattoo removed due to some major emotional shit she suffered, which is what that pic means in context. Maybe the bath scene from today's episode would make a lot more sense to your point. |
jal90 said: BaneofKermit said: VE 3-gatsu Season 2 Pop Team Epic Takagi San A Place Further Than The Universe Cardcaptor Sakura Ito Junji The recent season of Gintama Gauken Babysitters Hakumei to Mikochi Yowamushi Pedal: Glory Line Osomatsu-San 2nd Season All of the Cardgame shows and Beyblade From personal experience, neither do Yuru Camp, Mitsuboshi Colors or After the rain. Add IDOLiSH7 and Touken Ranbu Hanamaru s2 to that list, both female-oriented shows. |
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Clebardman said: @Bobby2Hands I agree with Darek, you'd have to have zero faith in humanity to think OP is legit and not some CE user having fun. You know I've made threads on this site before completely in earnest that immediately got called a trolling or a shitpost. If you ask me this whole thing has been a candid look into the sinister side of group mentality. |
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EcchiKnightDarek said: Knightmare_YK said: Nah, Bobby may not be the smartest user in here, but he for sure is not the type to bait with an alt account.Does anybody else think that OP and Bobby have been replying pretty much alternately? Is anybody else connecting the dots that I am? Hey thanks, "not the smartest" is one of the nicest things anyone has said to me all day. Usually people just call me a moron and move on. |
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| @Bobby2Hands if it's legit and OP really just remade an account and genuinely felt like telling us his opinion with 3 anime on his list and a Steven universe avatar, a show whose creator openly admits that it draws heavy inspiration from Utena, then so be it. Maybe it was a candid look into the sinister side of group mentality for him, but for me it was a candid look into ignorance and denial. And you know I don't care more for anime titties than you do. |
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| @Deknijff don't' wanna risk infraction lol this is just typical SJW bullshit @Bobby2Hands are you SERIOUSLY defending this motherfucker? seriously? weren't you the one telling me how despite all the ecchi you actually enjoyed Keijo for what it was? anime does not objective women.. its not fucking real.. stop comparing idealized cartoon characters created from someones mind to fit their personal standards to real people i thought you were way better than that UkePaChan said: And since I was ignored Ill say it again: I'm a girl. I like dem anime tiddies. Everyone likes tiddies. Done. a true woman of culture |
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| You ever hear of this thing called "Shoujo"? It's this big thing, it is anime...that caters to WOMAN, also: Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Valiaaant said: So, my question is: what makes women watch anime :/ ? i would be really glad if i got some insight by their part, i am doing a research/survey about this. It's like asking why women watch porn/hentai when it gives an idea of "objectifying" them Something's called "sexual desires" and women love that shiz It's like how many males love it when a male gets raped by a woman, or when a tsundere beats the crap out of the mc - well male viewers who are mostly a M love it... Now again you would say I am speaking for them.... Well whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Bobby2Hands said: KouhaiHasNoticed said: The whole point of being a SJW is wrong. But hey we live in a world where freedom of speech is precious so please feel free to spread your self-righteous ideology. Wait a second, what do you know of my "ideology" I don't remember mentioning jack shit about my ideologies. There we go , forcing the idea that anime is full of sexualized works to an extent it is only about that. The whole point of using such niche items as memes to respond to other people in my opinion is just a proof that you believe it as enough worth to proove something. Don't you know humour and what a meme actually is? I am well aware that you may have watched much more anime than me so I think that you are well aware that anime is not only about women with big chests but that there is actually a plot very often. In the end one chooses what he watches so saying that anime is only about sexualizing women , I am sorry it is a thought that you are trying to spread which has been proven to be partially if not totally wrong. |
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KouhaiHasNoticed said: In the end one chooses what he watches so saying that anime is only about sexualizing women , I am sorry it is a thought that you are trying to spread which has been proven to be partially if not totally wrong. Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Please tell me when I said "anime is only about sexualizing women"... Yeah...I didn't think so. Maybe stop making stupid assumptions. |
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Bobby2Hands said: KouhaiHasNoticed said: In the end one chooses what he watches so saying that anime is only about sexualizing women , I am sorry it is a thought that you are trying to spread which has been proven to be partially if not totally wrong. Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Please tell me when I said "anime is only about sexualizing women"... Yeah...I didn't think so. Maybe stop making stupid assumptions. What is the point of your rambling? People watch what they want, this is all there is to it. |
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Aquamirror said: Bobby2Hands said: Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Please tell me when I said "anime is only about sexualizing women"... Yeah...I didn't think so. Maybe stop making stupid assumptions. What is the point of your rambling? People watch what they want, this is all there is to it. Rambling? The guy claimed that I said "anime is only about sexualizing women". And now I'm telling him that he is wrong. Sorry if you consider that rambling. |
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| I think this thread tells more about what kinda shows OP is into than anime in general. Not all anime is male-oriented fanservice. Shocking, I know. |
| what a shitty bait.. why do women watch anime? because they want entertainment..because anime has different things to offer. anime isn't only harems and ecchi. I don't know if you're making a fool of yourself, really.. |
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Bobby2Hands said: What do you want for evidence? A whole list of every bit of sexual objectification that goes on in anime? Come on, stop playing dumb, you and I both know that anime is notorious for sexually objectifying women, it's like...one of the things anime is most known for. Again I'm not gonna sit here and give you an itemized list of evidence. If you wanna see all the objectification going on this season then just go look at all the gifs and MamsterP's profile page. You know why this is a meme? Because anime has a shit ton of sexual objectification, that's why. So tell me what was on your mind when you wrote this. |
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| Don't people have better things to do than to argue morals and defend the rights of characters that don't even exist? |
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| Why do guys still watch anime when male fanservice shows like Free and reverse harems reduce them to objects? Female anime fans don't exactly watch fanservice anime made for guys like you're suggesting they do. |
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Knightmare_YK said: Does anybody else think that OP and Bobby have been replying pretty much alternately? Is anybody else connecting the dots that I am? This is what I am expecting as the outcome of the whole shitposting :p |
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Knightmare_YK said: Bobby, don't you get it this is exactly the type of reaction OP would have wanted? Think about it, if a person were to shitpost, this is the EXACT thing he/she would have wanted, that an argument emerges so they can sit back and enjoy the mayhem. And you took it literally. OP was never serious about this post (refer 90% of anime being about fanservice) but you did. We had a fun time (if I say so myself, until you decided to defend that troll. So don't get too worked up about it. Troll or not, the idea that women can be repulsed by watching anime with a bunch of boobs and butts is a very real thing. I know a girl who watched Attack on Titan as her first anime and she really loved it. She then went on to watch Sword Art Online and she was so disgusted by the fanservice that she pretty much stopped watching anime. Everyone is acting like this thread has no merit. But it is a very real thing that affects anime and it's public perception. I just wish people could actually have a discussion about it instead of posting a bunch of snide comments. |
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| Can't tell if you're just throwing around bait or want to have a legitimate discussion regarding what women want. My guess is they probably find it entertaining just like we do. Osomatsu-san I've seen plenty go crazy about. Not sure what it's about but going by fanservice screenshots it's the ladies' harem comedy. |
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| Because anime girls are so hot that even the straightest women would beat off to them. |
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| What can I say? I'm a masochist. You are the smart guy here. |
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| hahaha cool post you troll lots of nice pics in the thread. thank you for your service your percentages are a little off though. stop watching ecchi fanservice. try watching decent anime. like GTO, vampire knight, free, boku no pico, loveless oooor the mighty g-g-g-g G GINTAMA anyways if i was to seriously guess it would be Psychological Romance Seinen Shounen Ai Yaoi Vampire Historical Slice Of Life .... jeez so much anime for whamen |
Menzo- said: You gonna need some better bait than this fam. after 3 pages this has been conclusively proven to be incorrect. |
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| @Valiaaant 1. How sensitive is your definition of "objectified". If it is "sensitive", then you can pretty much find objectification of women almost anywhere. They're songs that do it so we should stop listening to music? They're movies that do it so should I stop watching those too? There are GAMES GALORE that do it so should I stop gaming? It happens in REAL LIFE, should I not go outside? XD XD 2. I see it a bit like shopping. You can't help but spend money, yet you're not going to buy something obnoxiously expensive. You look for something affordable and reasonable. I see anime the same way, if I get a sense that there's just too much (like harems), I don't watch it. But, in my own perspective, there are quite the number of anime that don't objectify women or just do it minimally where it's not insulting. |
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| because the remaining 10% are shows where the males are the ones reduced to fanservice material |
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Valiaaant said: Rei366 said: They're constantly reduced to sex objects in most of those "art works". But then why don't you see people complaning about movies? Can you make some examples of the horrible stuff that happens "so much" in US movies? I never saw any of that happening, it just doesn't happen in major or equal quantity as in anime. Didn't see any in Star Wars, for example. star wars... it was there man... and it was a pretty big deal at the time too. |
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| Hollywood objectifies women far more than Anime. If anything, Anime has more strong female characters. Rey in the new Star Wars Trilogy is a joke. |
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| I am back and i've just caught up with all the new answers this thread got. So far, all the new replies i've got are mostly from male users, so that says a lot about your distorted perception of the female opinions about the subject and how they feel about it that come from other places i've asked the same thing. It's funny to see that the male users are the ones who are getting worked up the most over this subject when someone dares to touch or even question it. Yeah, i've read all the female users answers so far too, and they all sound partially agreeing or kinda defeatist. @StarSwoardsman Why do you think so? So far no one of the people who blamed hollywood for doing the same made any example. No one. |
Valiaaant said: I've looked through a lot of profiles here and there seem to be many women, which is really surprising considering that Japan's sexist views reduce them to mere fanservice material in 90% of anime shows. A female character can wear revealing clothing and be sexualized, and also be their own likable character with proper agency, motivations and backstory that can be appreciated even by girls who don't care about fanservice. Nami from One Piece for example, a pic of whom you posted here, is one of those such characters. So looking up and posting random pics doesn't say mean they are only there for fanservice, or even mainly for fanservice. So, unless the "female" users are males who fake to be a girl to get attention like what happens in online games, i can't really explain how could any woman align with something that is mainly directed to straight males and leaves barely any space for them. Why are there a shit tons of adult male MLP fans when the series is clearly meant for little girls? Because the show has something that attracts them, just like there are some anime that are targeted towards boys and yet have a big female fanbase, like Gintama for example which has more female manga readers than male ones even though it's from Shonen Jump. There are some good examples of female characters and shows done right when it comes to representation, but what about all the rest? It seems like anime is going backwards when it comes to catering to the female viewers, who sadly have to leave space for the overabundant male pandering. Again, you are acting like women are actively put off by even the slightest amount of fanservice, when they probably just simply don't care about it unless it goes to a uncomfortable extreme. @Wasshio likes plenty of anime with fanservice. @nicethings is big fan of Durarara, a series with fanservice. @S-quare22 has a Senjougahara pic and the character in her favorites, a sexualized female character. And yes, I know they don't represent all women, those are just examples. Sadly, even tho the female characters are many and more tha the male ones by sheer numbers and get more screen time, they always become mere subjects of pantyshots and the clichè "oh my god i fell over you and grabbed your boob don't slap me" kind of gross objectification. Don't watch ecchi, harem, isekai, most of light novel and visual novel based anime then. Most those type of scenes come from those types of anime. Also, you find pantyshots to be gross? really? That's the one of the tamest forms of ecchi. So, my question is: what makes women watch anime :/ ? i would be really glad if i got some insight by their part, i am doing a research/survey about this. Animation Likable male characters Likable female characters The cute art styles Emotional scenes Stories Comedy Drama Romance Action Adventure Sports Soundtracks And more stuff |
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Valiaaant said: I am back and i've just caught up with all the new answers this thread got. So far, all the new replies i've got are mostly from male users, so that says a lot about your distorted perception of the female opinions about the subject and how they feel about it that come from other places i've asked the same thing. It's funny to see that the male users are the ones who are getting worked up the most over this subject when someone dares to touch or even question it. Yeah, i've read all the female users answers so far too, and they all sound partially agreeing or kinda defeatist. @StarSwoardsman Why do you think so? So far no one of the people who blamed hollywood for doing the same made any example. No one. perhaps the reason most of your replies are from male users is because most anime fans are male? If you wanna see fan service in Hollywood go watch the Fast & Furious series or Transformers series |
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| Dw, fujobait series would at least objectify men. Or at least, that's how it would be... Anyway, they enjoy it so I don't really care. |
SuperRed said: Don't watch ecchi, harem, isekai, most of light novel and visual novel based anime then. Most those type of scenes come from those types of anime. Also, you find pantyshots to be gross? really? That's the one of the tamest forms of ecchi It would be faster to definitely stop watching anime, if someone had to follow that kind of suggestion, then. |
Valiaaant said: SuperRed said: Don't watch ecchi, harem, isekai, most of light novel and visual novel based anime then. Most those type of scenes come from those types of anime. Also, you find pantyshots to be gross? really? That's the one of the tamest forms of ecchi It would be faster to definitely stop watching anime, if someone had to follow that kind of suggestion, then. Equating anime = fanservice Genius. Yes, better stop watching anime and watch hentai because it's better. |
Fakegoose said: perhaps the reason most of your replies are from male users is because most anime fans are male? If you wanna see fan service in Hollywood go watch the Fast & Furious series or Transformers series Yeah, exactly, the majority of the fandom is male, you said so too right now, that goes back to my original question. And those 2 movie series that you listed don't make all cinematography and got criticized for the same reason. |
Valiaaant said: It's funny to see that the male users are the ones who are getting worked up the most over this subject when someone dares to touch or even question it. Yeah, i've read all the female users answers so far too, and they all sound partially agreeing or kinda defeatist. You're not a regular so I'll just tell you this, in Anime Discussion we had this same type of thread about fanservice in anime made many, many, MANY times as posters like @Pullman, @Aslt, @EcchiKnightDarek, and @EcchiGodMamster_P would know. And every single time there's barely any discussion there and it's mostly shitposting, both from people who like fanservice and hate it. Frankly, we are sick and tired of it. You could have bumped up older threads about this topic rather than making a new one. |
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