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Sep 1, 2017 1:49 PM
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Debigll said:
firemagnet said:


Is that a still frame from 0:11 of the episode preview?
http://recreators.tv/special/weekly/weekly_21.html


So I take it that Altair kicks the bucket tomorrow. Whatever the case is, she's clearly furious or terrified.

Bonus points in that the end of the preview after the title slate shows her hat on the ground:

Sep 2, 2017 8:25 AM

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I didn't expect that :O
Sep 2, 2017 4:20 PM

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Such enjoyable action again. Why did they have to drag out the series just to delay this?... idiots.

More Altair action, more more more!

Selesia had a nice mech too... so sad to see it go.
Sep 8, 2017 6:00 AM

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Damn that was a pretty intense episode...idk what Alice was thinking when she struck Altair...like you know you were going to smash your skull in!!!


Damn that ending though...
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Sep 9, 2017 5:48 AM
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Part of me died with Selesia and Alicetaria. But I still could not bring myself to hate Altair, she's just too awesome.
Sep 9, 2017 4:59 PM

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Alice's demise was not framed as glamorously as Selesia's final sacrifice. I'm not really sure what this all means, but the episode was kind of depressing.

There is some silver lining in that if they get to pass to an afterlife, if such a thing is exists and is available to creations, Alice can now reunite with Mamika. On the other hand, Selesia got to go out in a blaze of glory, smiling. Though the afterlife could be a bit awkward for her and Charon.

It bothers me a bit that I didn't really feel the gravity of the situation, regarding Selesia's sacrifice. Wouldn't say it felt unnecessary, it makes sense in hindsight that she would take on the responsibility of dispatching her companion, but in the moment, I didn't really get the sense that "boy, if she doesn't do this right now, it's all over."

On the other hand, Alice's death, without much fanfare, made sense to me, even if she deserved better. It's tragic, but she fought to her last breath, and I can respect that, even if I find it sad that she couldn't grow past the flaws that eventually ended up causing her demise.
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Sep 10, 2017 6:28 AM

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It's like Romeo and Juliet.



Sep 14, 2017 10:13 AM

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When I saw Alicetaria disappearing and her creator shedding tears I was shaken myself.. It didn't happen for a long time for me.
Sep 17, 2017 12:10 AM

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A bit melodramatic, but nice to see some progression.
Sep 17, 2017 10:50 AM

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First the blonde, and now the readhead, can they atleast make the redhead alive, ffs
Sep 21, 2017 8:07 PM
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That just happened :O
Sep 23, 2017 12:07 PM

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Alice! nooooo! My fave girl! And not only she, but also Selesia is gone...Altair is like that over cheated character in a game...
Sep 24, 2017 1:20 AM
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Stark700 said:
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Lol, Altair is having a big laugh from the arrival of her new ally.
I don't even think she takes Alice seriously at all by this point.

Charon's reunion with Selestia is how I expected would go. Unfortunately, it's not a happy one as they discuss the past. Rui is pretty badass in that fight though imo.

Altair is still so OP lol, taking on Blitz, Hoshikawa, and Yuya all at once. Please nerf

That ending though...SELESTIA. I doubt she'll be gone for good, or at least I hope.
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Sep 25, 2017 11:54 PM

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Well RIP. I don't really care.

The fact that red-haired girl couldn't convince that dude (or rather didn't even really try) made no sense. But I guess they had to do it since they couldn't come up with an actual reason for him to not fight at her side.
Sep 26, 2017 3:49 AM

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To bad Alice didn't at least manage to see her revenge. You have to feel sorry for her since she has been threw hard times in her world and threw shitty times here as well and no good fortune in the end.
A complete tragic character really.

HereticHunter said:
all these pointless deaths against an Extremely Broken Villain (how the fuck does Altair gets so many powerups only from fanarts, but the others doesn't?)

This is gonna end in a Dragon Ball level of bullshit battle Godlike vs Godlike, unless Sota somehow creates a "creation" that assembles her friend so she could stop Altair


Maybe the issue is that those characters have canon.
So no matter how much bullshit power-ups other characters get depicted with they never get those recognized by the audience because they have a canon story and people only believe that story is the real thing about them.Also since their power are established fan artist etc usually stay away from giving them abilities that are not theirs when they depict them since they will get comments of the style "That character has no such ability, wtf is that".

On the other hand Altair is like a blank piece of paper. She has no story and canon recognition. Her popularity comes just from those fan creations so the fans are writing her story, so everything they put becomes legitimate for her.



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Just what kind of story they write to make audience accept this kind of battle where who know when is your favotire character will die horribly and Altair's 4th wall breaks talk?

I want to see audience's face when they see their MC die.


Well that is simple, the kind of story you are currently watching.

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I'm gonna put it out this way to everyone complaining about Altair being OP

... She's like Hatsune Miku.
She's a beloved character with no "one" canon. Every music video she's in is a "canon"
And all of those are Hatsune Miku. Every incarnation. Every story. Everything.


we should promote everyone around the world to stop liking miku in case things like that might happen someday


More like Black rock shooter since Altair is an alternative of a character like Black Rock Shooter is to Miku.
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Sep 26, 2017 6:20 AM

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@Monad I can't get to see how any person would make such convenient powers for Altair, the moment this happened, this show lost all his value to me. My problem isn't really that the others can't get powerups, it is because is way too unfair for Altair to be that extremely broken with those godlike powers (this is both, Sota's Fault and TROYCA's too). its okay for her to be strong, but not THAT strong.


Not gonna bother why are you still on forums, because it seems like you waited for the show to end
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Sep 26, 2017 11:38 AM

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Pretty epic fight, but I don't know if it is ment to be parody of itself or being serious. Probably both. I like.
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Sep 26, 2017 10:26 PM
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First off: AAAARRRRAAGGGAAAHHH and SELLLESSSSIA... and, and ALISTARIAAAA!

Well this episode felt like a real tear jerker. I think because these characters felt so ingrained as main stays throughout the story but now it looks like their not. The plot armor that protects all heroes just isn't here. Or maybe it turns out it is and were just not focusing on the right characters.

I think what sells these tears is well the actual tears we see the characters shed. The way Alistaria's Creator just left the room to go bawl his eyes out hurts because we see him react, we know how much he believed in Alicestaria and we know that he had a happy ending planned for his creation that she might never see.

This series just keeps getting more and more fascinating with how it uses the 4th wall. In most stories you recognize that most supporting characters may not see the ending but here all the supporting characters are main characters. Which is confusing but also heart wrenching when they go. Maybe its just that as a reader/ watcher I'm sad to see a story unfinished but boy this episode nearly drove me to tears.
Sep 28, 2017 2:47 PM
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Holy shit. Episode 18 and 19 really up the action. I love everything about the Eroge girl and her creator/audience XD

Of course eroge players are going to accept any ridiculous upgrade to the girl as long as it's sexy and cool
Oct 15, 2017 5:59 PM

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I honestly wasnt expecting any real deaths in this series so this episode did catch me pretty off guard that selesia dies.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 18, 2017 12:47 PM

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If this continues, it's gonna be Magane vs. Altair in the finale. There's no fun to be had if there's no world.
Oct 29, 2017 10:42 PM

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Alicetaria, dead. Selesia, dead. Charon, dead.
Nov 4, 2017 4:42 PM

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Oh god... this is truly getting disappointing....

Started interesting then it turned out to be cliche and previsible. It's a shame.
Dec 13, 2017 1:10 PM

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Man everyone up against the final villain has been a dream ending of mine since forever. Hopefully they are able to pull it off without too much of an ass pull.
Feb 10, 2018 11:32 AM

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SELESIA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO








i guess Alicetaria's death was sad too but the show creators literally just overshadowed the fuck out of it lmaooooooo
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Feb 14, 2018 3:28 AM

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Dude, no... how sad...
Poor Aliceteria died in humiliation.
And then Selesia dies... tch. 2 important deaths in one ep T_T
Feb 22, 2018 11:47 PM

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Damn so many feels in this episode and I can't believe I'm about to shed some tears.

When Alice died and her creator reacted to it, that's a very heartwrenching moment. And when Altair called Alice a supporting character.... that's too meta for me because she is listed as one in MAL. Then also Selesia's last wish to her creator, like damn.

But since Selesia is a main character, I kinda feel like Meteora will revive her like she revived Blitz's daughter.

Mar 3, 2018 12:25 PM

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wow Alicetaria's creator after she died. That one unexpectedly got me.
Mar 7, 2018 2:48 PM

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WHAT. Alicetaria And Selesia?! Dammit!!
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Mar 31, 2018 9:59 AM

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Damn that ending :o they really going all out for this! Really epic development if you ask me and I really do wonder what will happen next!
Apr 28, 2018 2:10 AM
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This episode definitely lived up to the hype.
Oct 17, 2018 6:30 PM
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Matsubara should probably think all of my main characters is dead. How the fuck i can continue my story 😨
May 7, 2019 7:08 PM

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Damn, that was an intense episode! Killing Alicetaria and Selesia in one episode!?!

I always thought Selesia IS the main hero among all the heroes. But wow!! Honestly, I like this outcome. It is the kind of shock value that pulls out of nowhere.

Anyways, 3 more episodes to go. Let's do this!!
Dec 4, 2020 4:18 PM
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Pretty dope last 2 episodes.

Really pity anyone that watched it airing.

So far second half is delivering, but Altair is too OP, to the point it feels like bullshit, they could have handled that better.
Jan 31, 2021 9:13 AM

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Poor Alicetaria.
Mar 3, 2021 10:12 PM
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Damn. Hope they have the balls to keep this character deaths permanent, makes the show hold so much more weight.

And damn Altair, she was already op but she pulled out the uno reverse card on Alice? Ok that’s too strong yo. I’m already dreading the bs they’re going to have to pull out of their ass to take her down now. Probably sota is just gonna have a really cheesy emotional talk with her and then change her feelings or something.

Nonetheless, am glad that it’s all been gas no brakes for the last few episodes. Hope it continues on and doesn’t stop for at least the next two episodes.

GIVE MY WORLD COFFEE!!! The feels


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Jun 16, 2021 6:58 AM

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So...


Anyway, the story is getting better and better.
Jul 6, 2023 8:51 PM

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DAMN

i really hope Selesia's author gives them their coffee and happy ending :,)
 

Oct 30, 2023 11:34 PM

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Well I gotta hand it to them, they had some pretty massive cojones to kill off their characters like that.
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I'll admit the dialogue has gotten a bit iffy for me, there are some genuinely good parts, but to me there were also parts that i just felt confused about or couldn't stomach from how inconsistent weird sounded, but action this ep was very good again.

Fucking gigachad Altair holy shit the sweep is insane rn. I still have my doubts about her winning the war, but right now she's crushing the battles mercilessly and stylishly and i love it. From her own words she seems to barely be pulling out the stoppers, and her talk to the audience whether they took it to heart or not, felt so powerful.
She also showed probably the most emotions and expressions this episode, from talking to the audience, her grin to Charon's appearance or her pity to Alicetaria, nice to see a little more of her emotions even if its the psychotic ones.

Alicetaria final words and actions to Altair before her death did feel poetic, she did have that "main character" syndrome around her with how she just tackled things head first and thought she was doing the right thing denying other's to talk back, then turned on Altair for better or worse thinking she could take her because of it.
Man Altair fucking brought her down to earth so hard lmao, I mean i was kinda alright with her just being humbled an accepting few episodes back of how she wasn't seeing the wider picture and need to do some soul searching, her swapping sides i guess was the result of that, but i didn't expect her to hide it and backstab Altair last minute.
Altair the entire fight was just a menace lol, when i saw her go for another punch knowing Altair's reverse ability was probably still in effect, and then get hit by it, i ngl did get a small chuckle out of it. The fucking sound effect was so meaty and metallic that i couldn't help myself.

Charon was kinda cool i guess, he came out with some cool fight scenes and just like that vanished into the wind. Nah but besides from the dialogue with Selestia and action, we really didn't get to see much about him so i honestly don't really care to much about what happened to him.

Selestia's ending on the other hand i honestly did not expect at all, i genuinely thought she make it to the end. Looking back, her actions that led to her death did feel inline with her character, but at the same time really insane and almost a gamble on trying to win.
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