| Not sure if I'm following the SOP for creating episode threads. A similar thread was created in the Eureka AO main page; thought that it would better fit this database entry. Perhaps a moderator can sort this out? Color me surprised when all these years later I saw that a "final episode" was being made, albeit by virtue of some pachinko game halfway across the globe. "Would they finally answer some of the burning questions left unanswered in the main series?" The company (Sammy) posted the episodes via Youtube here: http://www.sammy.co.jp/japanese/product/pachislot/2016/eurekaao/episode/ No subtitles, but I know enough Japanese to understand the gist so I'll half commentate and half summarize. Whether a proper English translation will pop up or if this will stay online and available indefinitely, I don't know. So this might be useful to someone. Part A: Establishes pretty much what I expected to happen during the events of episode 24 of AO. Firing the gun a third time, and with such a huge mass of Quartz in the mix, made him like Eureka trapped in the infinite loop of time slipping. In episode 24 of the main series the last scene is in 2027 and with longer hair, so it's pretty clear that this episode (all four parts) are the events between returning Eureka and Renton to their world and the very last part of the same episode. The only thing that seemed odd was there wasn't an indication in AO that he became exactly like Eureka in that he was infinitely trapped; he seemed fine. But in this episode he was passing through Naru like a ghost. In this parallel universe post 3rd Quartz gun shot, it's likely that the "Ao" that grew up on Iwato Jima never existed and people will only know of Ao as a "ghost"/time traveler. Part B: Goes back to 1981 to the Caribbean and resolves Elena's plotline. They never really got into what happened to the original Elena, only that 'Elena' took over her identity. Rather than Eureka intervening and 'Elena' coming to 2020 with her to take the real Elena's identity (the series suggested that she died or disappeared), Ao told 'Elena' that there would be a Scub Burst in 2020, where a girl named Elene Peoples was involved and needed rescuing. So then 'Elena' of GenBlue (now age 40s) saved the real Elena. Interesting way to solve it, but this overwrites the event where Elena met Eureka. This is better anyway because there were some gaps left unanswered in the other universe. Well, I guess then they never really "resolved" it, just ignored it and made a new resolution. Fine with me. Part C: Learn that former Team Goldilocks are doing well. Interesting thing was that a stuffed teddie bear was called Bruno (Team Goldilock's leader), and they were wondering why they were attached to that name. I recall some of the discussions back during AO's airing about how some thought that the Quartz Gun while altering the fabric of the universe to what extent it overwrote memories (completely, or only mostly, which gets into a whole separate debate regarding the anthropic principle). Part D: Other GenBlue character show up. Hannah, Rebecka, Fleur is now President but her dad Blanc is still alive and well. The real Elena Peoples that was saved in part B is now a GenBlue pilot (i.e., white skinned, not tanned Elena). Eureka is confirmed to have also been involved with the events of this universe but not in the same way as the AO series. In this timeline, the Eureka that shows up was already saved the the trapped-in-time-slip Ao (this is where in the original timeline he told Eureka that he was her son) and tells everyone to please save the time-slipping Ao. To save Ao, it sounded like the amassed a bunch of Quartz, already knowing that it has time altering properties, and will save him through operation "Astral Ocean." Edit (3/3/17): Original post was prior to Part E being released. I edited post to include it. Part E: GenBlue plans to save Ao by shooting him and Truth with an overload of Quartz, causing another Scub Burst to set them free ( in contrast Ao shot a mega load of Quartz, causingthe problem in the first place). Ao despairs a bit because Elena and Fleur are chasing after him, but the pair successfully hit him with a bunch of raw Quartz, causes an explosion and frees him. Then a scene which pays a bit of a homage to the end of ep. 24 (which sort of ties the last half of episode 24 together). Ao is just plain happy that he's back in the world, and doesn't care if was this universe or the others. Meets the gang, happy ending. So there we go. I always felt it needed a nice OVA to wrap things up. I've forgotten the finer plot intricacies, but to my mind it patches up some of the plot mysteries. 3rd universe post-Quartz Gun has Trapar (I think this was more a trolling opinion rather than a valid one). Per this epilogue, the mystery around the real Elena is resolved, the anthropic principle factor for the 3rd post-Quartz Gun universe confirms nobody remembers Ao from the previous universe. Honestly, while it "answers" some questions it equally raises a few more, likely glazed over because it's an epilogue and had different intentions than answering plot questions. Otherwise, there are some nice little vignettists of the AO cast and "what happened after." 4 years too late to turn opinions around, but I appreciate the gesture. It provides the bit of closure that everyone really wanted from the series with the cast. |
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| They added 5th (E) episode now. |
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| Damn, an epilogue where we don't know if he ends up with Fleur... Dammit these Japaneses should learn more about how to tell an end... |
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| Honestly they should remake AO, whether it be movies or a new series. It was a mess. These ONAs kind of prove the creators weren't too satisfied with the ending either. Remake AO, don't have a cast of characters no one gives a fuck about and have some of the classic characters back (and their children!), and have no time travel or time paradox crap! If they can do that, it should at least be decent. |
| i dont care about their son i want the parents to be happy!!! |
| i cant believe they are still trying to make Ao |
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| I'm more waiting for those E7 movies, but this is a nice treat nonetheless. |
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Kjeldoran said: Part E: GenBlue plans to save Ao by shooting him and Truth with an overload of Quartz, causing another Scub Burst to set them free ( in contrast Ao shot a mega load of Quartz, causingthe problem in the first place). Ao despairs a bit because Elena and Fleur are chasing after him, but the pair successfully hit him with a bunch of raw Quartz, causes an explosion and frees him. Then a scene which pays a bit of a homage to the end of ep. 24 (which sort of ties the last half of episode 24 together). Ao is just plain happy that he's back in the world, and doesn't care if was this universe or the others. Meets the gang, happy ending. Thanks for summing up the events of all the episodes! I wish they borrowed more from the manga, but something is better than nothing I guess xD Seiya0890 said: Damn, an epilogue where we don't know if he ends up with Fleur... Dammit these Japaneses should learn more about how to tell an end... In the manga they make it seem like Ao x Naru are end game. In the end before he disappears, he hands off the bracelet that once belonged to his mother to Fleur, asking her to give it to Naru (like he originally intended) who is still hospitalized at the time. Skip forward to Ao returning on his ref board: the last scene shows gen blue walking up some stairs to a cliff, with Naru running up ahead. The last panel shows two hands coming together. One is presumably Ao's, and the other has the bracelet, so it can be presumed it is Naru. |
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| Was this a thing people were asking for or is God just punishing me and everything I love. AO never happened. Let's leave it at that and hope the new movies will be at least visually and musically fulfilling as Pocketful of Rainbows. Honestly after AO that's pretty much where the bar is set. |
| I've forgotten because it's been so long, but didn't the plot of AO, especially the end when you find out Renton and Eureka were fighting the scub coral, basically prove that Colonel Dewy was right all along? unlmtdbldwrks said: i dont care about their son i want the parents to be happy!!! The son literally sacrificed himself to save his parent's fuckup. |
Jonesy974 said: I've forgotten because it's been so long, but didn't the plot of AO, especially the end when you find out Renton and Eureka were fighting the scub coral, basically prove that Colonel Dewy was right all along? unlmtdbldwrks said: i dont care about their son i want the parents to be happy!!! The son literally sacrificed himself to save his parent's fuckup. thats why ao ruined the series for me, because yes, making scub coral the enemy and saying that a hybrid child will turn to stone when exposed to high areas of trapar air proves that coralians and humans cant co exist, which proves dewy right they still lose two of their kids, he fixed their fuck up but it ruins their happiness...unless you think they can get over somthing like that...ao ruined their happy ending plain and simple..or am i wrong? |
unlmtdbldwrks said: Jonesy974 said: I've forgotten because it's been so long, but didn't the plot of AO, especially the end when you find out Renton and Eureka were fighting the scub coral, basically prove that Colonel Dewy was right all along? The son literally sacrificed himself to save his parent's fuckup. thats why ao ruined the series for me, because yes, making scub coral the enemy and saying that a hybrid child will turn to stone when exposed to high areas of trapar air proves that coralians and humans cant co exist, which proves dewy right they still lose two of their kids, he fixed their fuck up but it ruins their happiness...unless you think they can get over somthing like that...ao ruined their happy ending plain and simple..or am i wrong? Sure, it definitely did ruin their happy ending, but maybe that was kind of the point. The entire time you watch the original Eureka 7 you believe this group of rag tag terrorists are doing the right thing by trying to get humans and coralians to co-exist using the scub coral to avoid the limit of questions. But perhaps the point they tried to make is that maybe the good guys who tried to do the right thing maybe chose the wrong answer despite having the best intentions. Dewy wanted to massacre corralians, and destroy scub coral; effectively killing everyone who was already linked to the coral as well. A fucked up genocide to avoid the limit of questions...but in the end the scub did end up causing problems. Think of it this way, perhaps if Dewy's plan succeeded and the scub were eliminated, their kids wouldn't have died because trapar content wouldn't have been so high, and Ao would've lived an entirely normal life. |
Jonesy974 said: unlmtdbldwrks said: thats why ao ruined the series for me, because yes, making scub coral the enemy and saying that a hybrid child will turn to stone when exposed to high areas of trapar air proves that coralians and humans cant co exist, which proves dewy right they still lose two of their kids, he fixed their fuck up but it ruins their happiness...unless you think they can get over somthing like that...ao ruined their happy ending plain and simple..or am i wrong? Sure, it definitely did ruin their happy ending, but maybe that was kind of the point. The entire time you watch the original Eureka 7 you believe this group of rag tag terrorists are doing the right thing by trying to get humans and coralians to co-exist using the scub coral to avoid the limit of questions. But perhaps the point they tried to make is that maybe the good guys who tried to do the right thing maybe chose the wrong answer despite having the best intentions. Dewy wanted to massacre corralians, and destroy scub coral; effectively killing everyone who was already linked to the coral as well. A fucked up genocide to avoid the limit of questions...but in the end the scub did end up causing problems. Think of it this way, perhaps if Dewy's plan succeeded and the scub were eliminated, their kids wouldn't have died because trapar content wouldn't have been so high, and Ao would've lived an entirely normal life. from a plot stand point maybe, but dewys intentions wernet that noble were they? he seemed like a phycopath that was mad cqause he wasnt the choosen one or whatever...but from the series itself, it screwed up becaus people kept quitting the progect so they had to improvise...its what i heard anyways, it would explain why the plot in ao is all over the place, and basicly erased itself |
unlmtdbldwrks said: Jonesy974 said: Sure, it definitely did ruin their happy ending, but maybe that was kind of the point. The entire time you watch the original Eureka 7 you believe this group of rag tag terrorists are doing the right thing by trying to get humans and coralians to co-exist using the scub coral to avoid the limit of questions. But perhaps the point they tried to make is that maybe the good guys who tried to do the right thing maybe chose the wrong answer despite having the best intentions. Dewy wanted to massacre corralians, and destroy scub coral; effectively killing everyone who was already linked to the coral as well. A fucked up genocide to avoid the limit of questions...but in the end the scub did end up causing problems. Think of it this way, perhaps if Dewy's plan succeeded and the scub were eliminated, their kids wouldn't have died because trapar content wouldn't have been so high, and Ao would've lived an entirely normal life. from a plot stand point maybe, but dewys intentions wernet that noble were they? he seemed like a phycopath that was mad cqause he wasnt the choosen one or whatever...but from the series itself, it screwed up becaus people kept quitting the progect so they had to improvise...its what i heard anyways, it would explain why the plot in ao is all over the place, and basicly erased itself Nah Dewy was a scumbag. He was always doing it for himself and not for the world. IIRC he basically wanted to be the leader of the cleansed world, and was jealous that Eureka the true Corralian picked Holland. Really just a coincidence that his way would've been the one that worked. Yea I heard about that as well. Never read any articles on it myself, but it wouldn't surprise me. |
Jonesy974 said: unlmtdbldwrks said: from a plot stand point maybe, but dewys intentions wernet that noble were they? he seemed like a phycopath that was mad cqause he wasnt the choosen one or whatever...but from the series itself, it screwed up becaus people kept quitting the progect so they had to improvise...its what i heard anyways, it would explain why the plot in ao is all over the place, and basicly erased itself Nah Dewy was a scumbag. He was always doing it for himself and not for the world. IIRC he basically wanted to be the leader of the cleansed world, and was jealous that Eureka the true Corralian picked Holland. Really just a coincidence that his way would've been the one that worked. Yea I heard about that as well. Never read any articles on it myself, but it wouldn't surprise me. ao disapointed me, e7 was turned from a story about how love overcomes things like race (at least how i saw it) into every parents worst nightmare, which changed renton from a pasifist to a killer that would even give up eureka the one he fought for and grew up for, idk it just ruined it for me anyways this was fun ty for discussing this with me, nice to have a civil discussion about anime for once |
x3eloved said: Thanks for summing up the events of all the episodes! I wish they borrowed more from the manga, but something is better than nothing I guess xD Seiya0890 said: Damn, an epilogue where we don't know if he ends up with Fleur... Dammit these Japaneses should learn more about how to tell an end... In the manga they make it seem like Ao x Naru are end game. In the end before he disappears, he hands off the bracelet that once belonged to his mother to Fleur, asking her to give it to Naru (like he originally intended) who is still hospitalized at the time. Skip forward to Ao returning on his ref board: the last scene shows gen blue walking up some stairs to a cliff, with Naru running up ahead. The last panel shows two hands coming together. One is presumably Ao's, and the other has the bracelet, so it can be presumed it is Naru. Good thing I did not read the manga then ^^. Well I did not especially enjoyed the anime... |
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x3eloved said: In the manga they make it seem like Ao x Naru are end game. In the end before he disappears, he hands off the bracelet that once belonged to his mother to Fleur, asking her to give it to Naru (like he originally intended) who is still hospitalized at the time. Skip forward to Ao returning on his ref board: the last scene shows gen blue walking up some stairs to a cliff, with Naru running up ahead. The last panel shows two hands coming together. One is presumably Ao's, and the other has the bracelet, so it can be presumed it is Naru. Thank God I did not read the manga. This ending is even worse than the aiime ending. P.S. Fleur is a much better choice, IMO. |
| Hey everyone, I've been looking all over the web but I can't seem to find the episodes in English Subtitles or English Dubbed. Does anyone know if its been provided subtitles or dubbed, and if so, can you please provide me a link? I'd appreciate it, thank you! |
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| I'm confused why Ao left Truth(Nirvash) in the last scene.. |
| A better more expanded ending to AO. Was nice to see all of the characters back. Liked that we also got the Astral Ocean name drop. Overall, a better ending to AO due to them being able to expand on the events a bit more. |
| Man, I feel bad for the people who had to wait 5 years for a proper conclusion. I watched Psalms of the Planets and Astral Ocean in dub so I guess I have to make do with this only being subbed. Going by the length of Ao's hair, this is in-between Ao taking on his mother's mission in her place and him arriving in 2027 of some universe in episode 24. He couldn't change what happened to the older sister he never met, but he at least prevented Eureka from being insubstantial and jumping all over time. Ao's growing up and attempting to shave for the first time. Guess for this ep he's just a traveller that can't decide where he wants to go as he didn't stop the Scub Coral in the future of his own world like Renton was planning to do in episode 24. Ao teaches Naru how to breath along with the scubs, without the additional ideas Truth put in side her head in the first iteration of Ao's timeline (I'm still wondering why she was fighting Ao in episode 23 though). As expected, Ao is insubstantial this time. |
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