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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hmm, I thought this was alright. Rose in a princess dress though? XD Speaking of her, she's taking on her mask as an assassin again so expecting to see a more lethal side of her. Rose's assassination talent really is quite dangerous tbh. Looks like Sorey showed up when Rose was trying to complete her own mission. Rose's vengeance felt real this episode. |
Stark700Jan 29, 2017 9:53 AM
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| hmm, i wonder if there's going to be one more season after this. We're already 4 episode in and the main plot hasn't progressed much. |
| haven't watch this, but is there another Berseria special next episode? i'm currently enjoying the game, so good |
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| This is getting so dull, another very slow episode ... |
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Theorder14 said: hmm, i wonder if there's going to be one more season after this. We're already 4 episode in and the main plot hasn't progressed much. Yeah I feel like they're setting themselves up to never finishing this, just like it ended up happening with God Eater, the anime was 1000x more interesting than the game in my opinion |
| Pretty decent episode. Rose was pretty cute in that wedding dress. I guess the entire episode could be summed up as a conflict over the act of killing for the greater good, Right or wrong? I don't really have much to say, Wonder when we'll get back to the main plot. GangsterCat said: haven't watch this, but is there another Berseria special next episode? i'm currently enjoying the game, so good PV doesn't seem to imply anything Berseria related. |
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| rose is the best character in this, sorey trying to stop her made him lose my consideration |
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| Roze should be the MC lol~ Pussy shepherd pisses me off |
| Started off slow but the ending was really intense, don't like how it ended on a cliffhanger though. |
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GangsterCat said: haven't watch this, but is there another Berseria special next episode? i'm currently enjoying the game, so good I hope so. Berseria is nice. PS: another average Zestiria episode but who cares. |
| Fuck the Shepherd who doesn't let best girl assassinate. I hope he died at the end at least. |
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| Decent episode. I'm absolutely loving Rose this season. Seeing her in a wedding dress tho xDD Nothing significant other that tho, not much of plot progression, hope we get to it soon. |
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| Hmm well this is a different take on Rose's backstroy as well as Dezel's . Lol at those saying sorey is a pussy . It's a matter of beliefs and principles since the shepherd purifies and doesn't kill , and this is supposed where he confronts the question that's been lingering in his head and said by the previous shepherd i suppose . Anyways, I don't think Rose would succumb to malevolence either way . |
Shishou_23Jan 29, 2017 9:18 AM
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DragonSlayer_19 said: ... since the shepherd purifies and doesn't kill... |
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He still hasn't killed . I'm not talking about what others have done . This applies to Sorey . Go back to episode 8 when zaveid killed a hellion with his gun . Sorey was clearly against his methods . |
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| The episode was very hard to choose which side man... Ugh... morality is very strong in this one. |
| Definitely the best episode so far, in that Sorey finally found out about what Rose was really up to and went to try and stop her. It's definitely been the most emotionally compelling thread that this show has been able to offer in its second season so far, and it was a vast improvement on the first three episodes of nothingness. That's one heck of an annoying cliffhanger though. |
| I SWEAR TO GOD IF SOREY SUCCESSFULLY STOPS ROSE I WILL STOP WATCHING!!! Sorry but this episode really pissed me off. |
| I hope Rose killed him. |
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| Oh wow, the anime actually became watchable again after the insanely slow start of the second season. This thread made me realize how much people have a hard on for the revenge-driven character archtype. The show's message got repeated to nauseam from episode 1 and it's painfully obvious where the show will go and what themes it wants to convey, from the type of characters, atmosphere and direction of the story, yet you see people spouting hate for MC-kun for wanting to stop what has been clearly said for 15 episodes to be bad and evil. But fuck themes, apparently, because "revenge iz kewl". |
astroprogsJan 29, 2017 11:13 AM
| Damnn that cliffhanger, I hope she kills him |
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| So Sorey finally found out about Rose's secret and not surprisingly, he's trying to stop her as he doesn't agree with her methods. Part of me feels like Sorey got in the way of Rose's target at the last second..... I really wish the main plot would progress more though. |
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| Sorry Sorey but Rose is an assassin, she kills people. You can't change her ways. Rose did look really nice in that dress. |
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| I side with Rose on this, dude deserves to be killed, i am not one to follow that logic of "Nobody deserves to die" when there are plenty of people that should be killed for the better of mankind. Besides dude killed her father, i'd want revenge too not to mention he is a scumbag prince abusing shit for gain. But i am guessing Sorey stopped the kill somehow or got stabbed himself, i would have thrown one of the daggers just in case. |
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| I'm with Rose on this one. Tired of this "no one deserves to die" shit they're preaching. She has a legitimate reason to dispose of that guy, not to mention this is precisely what the last Shepherd was getting at when he asked "if disposing someone will save many, is that a malevolent deed?" On the contrary I fail to see how slashing his shoulder was a "vital point". It wasn't the heart, too low to hit the carotid. Probably hit the subclavian at most, but hardly anyone dies from just that. |
| This anime is far too idealistic. Sorey has no right interfering and the whole nobody deserves to die mantra conflicts with the setting. Rose is a good character but also an assassin and I honestly dont know where they intend to go with this. Not a great episode really |
| Sorey i s such a damn annoying generic vanilla gary stu boyscout. Playing Berseria now REALLY highlights to me how shitty Zestiria characters are. Either way this episode can literally be summed up as "Mary Sue and Gary Stu clash with their opinions". The result is as shitty as one would expect. Both are awful infallible characters that narrative is intent on putting on a pedestal. So no wonder this feels shitty. Zestiria is definition of a narrative where plot is a mess and no character is likeable. Just give me berseria crossover(time is running out for it already, they need to start setting that up already so we don't have to delve into utter nonsense of Zestiria's last arc from the game) and some at least decent fights. This had none of that. |
AhenshihaelJan 29, 2017 12:55 PM
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| we all know sorey is goddamn idealistic pacifist, nothing we can do about that although... 1 disappointment... WHY IS ROSE SO GODDAMN INCOMPETENT!??? "i hit the vital..." it's shoulder you dumbass! pro assassin can't even kill sleeping target *facepalm* and the pacing is too slow. even if the anime skip every pointless fillers side-antagonists, there are still way too many things to cover in 9 episode we haven't even meet mr.leomon directly ffs, there won't be enough build up hype even if they manage to cover everything |
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| An improvement respecting the previous episodes, since this time they actually pulled a clash between the ideals of both Sorey and Rose, but still, Rose supposedly stabbed that nigga in a vital point and then he appears like if he only had an scratch, even being able to run, when Rose clearly stabbed her in the neck. I thought he would be a Hellion or something, but he was just an average dude. What the Hell? Next episode looks like we won't move from Zestiria, who is probably the wisest option, since adding more Berseria advertisement episodes would turn this into a rush-fest when they eventually confront The Lord of Calamity. At this point I'm just expecting some mention of Velvet and just that. |
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| better get the shit done rose. Dont let that bitch ass shepherd stop you. |
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| Decent episode, Sorey should really try to understand Rose more, try to sympathize. That clifhanger tho............. |
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| Nice episode. Rose looks good in that wedding dress, but so unlike her. Nothing getting in her way of revenge. So badass taking those guards down. |
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| it has been some time since I played the game so i might be missing something, but... isn't Prince Conan supposed to be dead by now? Like... dead in the same day Rose realized the windriders had been betrayed? Where is Lafarga in all this? Did they cut him completly off? It's been cool and all, but where is this going? |
| There was some serious inconsistencies in this episode that seriously depreciated its worth. Some were small but others were major plot conveniences. First: Why does a Seraph need a horse to get around the land? This happened in the first season as well with Mikleo taking a horse to go somewhere. I mean if no ordinary human can see a Seraph then doesn't logic dictate that Mikleo riding a horse is basically a horse running around with no rider across the land? Second: How the hell do these people travel so damn fast? You mean to tell me that Mikleo and Edna got to where Rose's target was at then Mikleo takes a horse and travels all the way back to wherever Sorey was headed and finally we have Sorey going all the way back to Rose to try and stop her? Okay...either the distance wasn't great (though obviously bullshit if you consider how the hours passed between early evening to late night) or horses can move at the speed of sound. Lastly: If Rose hit a vital spot, how the fuck did this prince get up? He was holding the area on the shoulder going towards the neck. There's a pressure point in that area and if you are stabbed there, you're dead. This guy gets up and later takes off, the blood loss alone should have killed him. There's a lot of plot armor going on here which overall made this episode seriously a 1/5 for me. |
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| Edna X MIkleo <3 That slice at the end was epic. |
| how can Rose be a good character and an assassin at the same time?! |
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| It was pretty annoying how Sorey and the others tried so hard to stop her. I was just hoping she'd get her revenge. |
| Sorey's ideals are not the different than Alisha's. Thing is with Sorey, is that he wants to save everyone and rid them of their malevolence. Like Alisha, he doesn't want a world built up in blood unlike how Artorius did things in Berseria. Killing the Prince does deter facilitation of those drug schemes, but if you clip off a giant's toe, it will still bring down its foot. The Scattered Bones, if they want to bring justice, will have to the put the ban on everything aligning itself with the Social Darwinistic order of the strong preying on the weak and the fit surviving. That breeds hatred which snowballs into a cycle of malevolence, which Sorey has mentioned last season when purifying a human hellion. Of course, Sorey's (and in turn Alisha's) methods can be criticized for how slow it is to reach their goals without spilling blood. It seems that the Scattered Bones, who claim to voice the weak, want results fast to prevent less mishaps of the disparity between power-hungry elites who extort assets into there coffers and the poor common-man. If the elite are wiped, who will replace them? Will the weak that the Scattered Bones protected become the new strong and in turn be subjugated the Scattered Bones' judgement, jury, and execution? That being said, Sorey, Alisha, and Brad will die for their ideals, and with them being consistent characters makes them terrific leaders among leaders. Alisha even told Rose not to turn to revenge for her sake if she died. That is the core of Alisha and Sorey's ideals, and I believe that to be a very respectable deed. Did Brad want his beloved Rose to take on the path of revenge for his sake? Or was acting out on his ideals enough? Would a new Lord of Calamity rise after the other was dealt with? This makes me wonder if Sorey and Alisha will be failed martyrs in this anime. With so many opposed to their platitudes as Dezel puts it, can malevolence truly be put down? Lailah akins it to a flickering flame that grows fiercer as it is cut down last season. A world built upon corpses wasn't praised in Berseria, so a world that is built without corpses in Zestiria should be praised. Hence why, I'm leaning more on Sorey and Alisha's side here for the sake of keeping that theme consistent. It may not solve things in the short term, but like-minded disciples and descendants of the two can certainly achieve it. |
reverserealityJan 29, 2017 4:46 PM
Veldin461 said: it has been some time since I played the game so i might be missing something, but... isn't Prince Conan supposed to be dead by now? Like... dead in the same day Rose realized the windriders had been betrayed? Where is Lafarga in all this? Did they cut him completly off? It's been cool and all, but where is this going? The anime is reaching "similar" overall plot while going at it in a different(better) way and avoiding some of shittier stories within the game. |
AhenshihaelJan 29, 2017 4:05 PM
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GangsterCat said: haven't watch this, but is there another Berseria special next episode? i'm currently enjoying the game, so good i don't think we will have more special tales of berseria, it was supposed to be an advertisement for the game, which is out and i'm also enjoying it ^^ FireFistYamaan said: Decent episode, Sorey should really try to understand Rose more, try to sympathize. i feel the same, in the previous episode "Mayvin" waited sorrey return to remind him of the last shepherd word, so he can reflect on them and make sure he stay true to himself. Dezel also explained what rose organisation is about to Mikleo and also who they were going to kill. But the first thing Sorrey do when he learned the new, its to rush to stop her... saying "no matter what you must not kill", making what Mayvin said vain..... |
| On further thought, both Zaveid and Dezel say to Sorey that some things have to be killed. The day when Sorey has to choice but to kill Eizen (if the anime permits) would be the day when Sorey's ideals are put to the test. If the anime makes it so that Eizen is spared or brought back, then that goes with the line of thought that any living entity can be redeemed even if it's an evil human. I'm not sure of which path the anime will take here. Will the anime continue to hammer down this theme in its entire beautiful message, or will the anime follow more with the games in the nuance changes in Sorey's views and leading to character development? Can't say which one I favor more. Edrinn said: i feel the same, in the previous episode "Mayvin" waited sorrey return to remind him of the last shepherd word, so he can reflect on them and make sure he stay true to himself. Dezel also explained what rose organisation is about to Mikleo and also who they were going to kill. But the first thing Sorrey do when he learned the new, its to rush to stop her... saying "no matter what you must not kill", making what Mayvin said vain..... But to stay true to Mayvin's words, Sorey must stay true to himself at the expense of Rose being herself. Mayvin's words are still lived in Sorey, but the consequence is that "staying true to yourself" proves to be difficult since it can get in the way of others "staying true to themselves." It's a shame that Rose can't be Rose when Sorey is Sorey. Wise words, but albeit does nothing. Look what Velvet and Artorius got themselves into for doing that. Their ideals and views will clash, and the stronger one will induce a change in the other or perhaps an "agree to disagree" moment. If Rose was in Sorey's shoes in the last episode of the first season, she would have killed Landon in a heartbeat for hurting Alisha. Sorey, while he pondered the thought, didn't let his emotions get to him. I guess I just don't like how Rose gets a free pass away from malevolence in the games when she is as flawed as any human in the anime. |
Edrinn said: i don't think we will have more special tales of berseria, it was supposed to be an advertisement for the game, which is out and i'm also enjoying it ^^ Velvet is in the opening tho. And there's absolutely not enough episodes to blow through the rest of Zestiria's nonsense endgame plot considering where we are in the story. The only thing that would make sense is for the story to go completely original now and somehow tie it back to Berseria. |
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Fai said: maybe sorey will fight eizen, actually purifies him, and ask eizen to tell the story about his past..... "TO BE CONTINUED IN TALES OF BERSERIA (ONLY 7000 YEN!!!!!)"Edrinn said: i don't think we will have more special tales of berseria, it was supposed to be an advertisement for the game, which is out and i'm also enjoying it ^^ Velvet is in the opening tho. And there's absolutely not enough episodes to blow through the rest of Zestiria's nonsense endgame plot considering where we are in the story. The only thing that would make sense is for the story to go completely original now and somehow tie it back to Berseria. XD |
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| Like most self-righteous protagonists of action series, Sorey really pisses me off with his holier-than-thou attitude. According to Sorey's logic, "Nobody deserves to die, no matter what" ...including all the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and other villains that ruin peoples lives (if they haven't robbed them of that as well) just by being themselves. I bet Sorey would think differently if a band of human-turned Hellions killed every single Seraph in his village starting with his best friend Mikleo, with Alisha and Rose following soon after. But it's fine if he doesn't want to kill, I'm perfectly cool with that; that's his way of doing things. But it pisses me off when he tries to stop Rose from doing what she believes is the right thing to do, in this case, killing her father's murderer--a mass murderer at that, who is also a drug dealer living a life of luxury off of the deadly addictions of junkies. Sometimes I wonder if Sorey even knows why exactly carrying around a sword on one's waist (himself included) among many other lethal weapons, is normal everyday occurrence in their world. I doubt people carry a sword to make friends around a fire while singing Kumbaya. "You shouldn't kill, no matter what!" says the guy that kills on a regular basis. Sorey as the Sheppard eliminates evil in the form of malevolence by stabbing and slashing monsters with a sword, effectively killing them (while only sometimes the host survives). How is that any different than Rose and her group assassinating powerful evildoers the law can't touch by stabbing and slashing, while sparing said evildoer's followers that were simply hired to do a job. I'm with Dezel's on this one...some people don't deserve to live. They forfeit their rights to live the moment they themselves take a life--at least the Rose's group acknowledge they'll likely go to hell if there is one. His idealistic thinking will be his undoing at this rate. The moment Sorey spares a rampaging Hellion (aside from the human host) that massacred a city's worth of people, I'll consider listening to his BS. The only way to "purify" a Hellion, is killing the Hellion. #HellionLivesMatter Shit, even Batman chooses not to save some villains, letting them die from time to time. |
| Omg rose flashback 😭 Rose finally gets her revenge How did he survive omg 😲 hope he isnt a hellion |
| if only this is Xillia that would be better. anyway , finally sorey found out that rose is an assassin , a little bit of rose's past and she look good in that dress thou ,... the plot is going slowly but there's 8 episodes left looking forward to that.. |
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