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Jan 28, 2010 7:16 PM

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Yeah, i guess its ironic in a way if you think about it. It seems noe's brother has feelings for her, just as shin does for his 'sister'. Lol though i could just be looking too into it.. this episode though i predicted this would happen, i still felt bad for his friend :S especially the expression on his face when ai told him about the way she felt towards that sweater...
Mar 9, 2010 9:35 PM

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Great episode.
I feel sorry for Nobuse. It really wasn't his fault and he doesn't deserve the treatment he's taking. Ai, idiotically, accepted to go out with him only because Shin'ichiro requested it. What a stupid girl. I no longer like her.
Now things are getting interesting with the whole 'sister' thing. I'd love to see what happens next. I was really surprised when Hiromi started crying. Finally, we get to see some tears.
Overall, I liked the episode and I hope it all works out for Shin'Ichiro & Hiromi and Nobuse & Ai, since I support both those couples.
May 2, 2010 4:42 AM
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I want noe to be with shin'ichiro !!!! I just love noe !!!
May 27, 2010 5:22 AM

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Now starts the drama. I just love drama....it's so addicting. I still like a happy ending though...so I hope there is one.

I hope there won't be too many misunderstandings....those can get annoying after a while.
Jul 24, 2010 7:02 PM

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i saw that coming,not surprised -_-,but they made it good,tho :)
let the drama kick in...

now there's only one possible outcome: Noe x Shinichiro,and that's what i wanted :)
(Ai cannot be because she's supporting xD)


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Nov 3, 2010 9:54 PM
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ooook so brother/sister relationship through BLOOD has been established. or at least the possibility of it..

hiromi knew of this...yet still fell for shin? umm wtf..

i can understand shin's POV, since he had no idea...
Dec 6, 2010 2:17 PM

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Pretty good drama in this episode. I don't really believe Hiromi and Shinichiro are blood related, because of the photo where only Hiromi's mother has been scribbled out. I think she may have had an affair with Shinichiro's father though.

Poor Nobuse looking all confused after Ai told him she wanted the seater Shinichiro liked. =(

May 26, 2011 12:30 AM

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Bomb bay doors open. Payload has been delivered.
lots of damage done in this episode. Loving it.

Now that hiromi is his sister we can safely assume she's out of the running. Unless it becomes one of /those/ shows. In the meantime, ai will probably make her move.
Jul 28, 2011 10:36 AM
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Awesome episode. This is well done drama, keeping it simple yet effective.

Poor Hiromi. The stress she's been under is incredible. No wonder she was so serious at the beggining.
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Oct 11, 2011 1:09 AM

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Great episode. It's a chain reaction of hurt we have here. The drama is partly Hiromi's fault for telling her lie about liking Noe's brother in the first place. Only Noe herself has yet to be caught in the aftermath of this. I feel so sorry for Miyokichi, though, because that would mean Ai never really loved him in the first place. In this web of everyone (except for Noe) else's lies and mistakes, he is the only real victim here.
Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM

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Holy shit. Hit me with the same strength on the second go.
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Dec 5, 2011 6:58 AM

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BUTTHURT said:
Great episode.
I feel sorry for Nobuse. It really wasn't his fault and he doesn't deserve the treatment he's taking. Ai, idiotically, accepted to go out with him only because Shin'ichiro requested it. What a stupid girl. I no longer like her.
Now things are getting interesting with the whole 'sister' thing. I'd love to see what happens next. I was really surprised when Hiromi started crying. Finally, we get to see some tears.
Overall, I liked the episode and I hope it all works out for Shin'Ichiro & Hiromi and Nobuse & Ai, since I support both those couples.


Pretty much everything I thought about this episode! It was pretty awesome =D.

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Jan 2, 2012 12:15 PM

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This means no Shin x Hiromi...!?
Jan 21, 2012 4:32 PM

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I knew she was his half-sister! Damn, that was so sad. ;A;
Mar 4, 2012 9:28 PM

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Wow, Nobuse and Aiko's story is so much more interesting than Shinichiro and Hiromi's it made me realize how much those bores had sent me to sleep.

Also how circular the main story is. Aiko did something stupid (agree to go out with a boy she doesn't like) instead of coming out with her real feelings, but she realizes how stupid this was and regrets it. There's an internal conflict. Shin and Hiromi on the other hand do stupid thing after stupid thing and don't seem to even understand what's going on. They both just seem like idiots.

Well, that was until the soap opera bomb got dropped. ZOMG incest, like half of every anime romantic drama.
Feb 14, 2013 3:08 PM

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Saw it coming. But I don't think they really are blood-related. The affair is possible, but I don't think she was born from that.
I don't really have anything to base this on, it's just that I have a pretty strong feeling that they are going to end up together.
I would like it be Noe, but she is probably only going to be a people-changing character in the end :/

I think Ai is pretty unnecessary in this whole show. I don't hate her, but it should have been only Hiromi and Noe.
I feel pretty bad for Nobuse, he doesn't deserve all this. Ai was stupid for accepting to go out with him just so that she can get closer to Shin or just because he 'wanted it'.

Noe in the ending was hilariously cute :D
Apr 1, 2013 3:17 AM

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It was not a good idea to start this series when I have school work I need to get done.. I don't want to stop watching!

Damn that must have fucking hurt for Nobuse. I fucking felt so bad for him :( Hopefully it will turn out all right! And I guess it is for the best if Ai never really liked him (although she is a bitch for leading him on like that). Poor guy.

And oh shit they could be related :0 Now Hiromi's actions all make sense.

God damn this is good!
Apr 10, 2013 3:11 PM

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AAAAH! Fucking amazing character development so Hiromi might be Shinichiro sister from the same father? Damn great development still Hiromi loves Shinichiro and Noe's brother knows that :p

Damn amazing episode!
Apr 25, 2013 9:09 PM

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The scene near the end of the episode was just well-executed in general, especially the soundtrack that was being played. Superb indeed.
Jun 9, 2013 12:54 PM
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The ending was sad. But i've never hated a MC like Shinichiro so much. First of all he set up the girl he likes with a guy, who does that? He said to Noe that she should leave him alone. Oh and i hate the mother for being a b*tch and Noes brother. And i think that the mother lied about them being siblings.
Jul 9, 2013 2:36 PM
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oh...oh my god i cant believe ai said that. wooo, this anime is getting super dramatic!!
May 14, 2014 6:51 AM

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Saw that one coming , but man .. i'm loving the romance + drama in this one
Jun 27, 2014 10:57 AM

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Oh man, when I said wincest before, I was referring to that scene where No.4 was going to touch Noe on the cheek while getting onto his bike. Wasn't expecting this development. I don't know how I feel about this yet. It feels like a cop out to get Hiromi out of the MC bowl but who knows.

The part after No.4 and Hiromi's date when he realizes she also likes Shinichiro was so delicious. Delicious drama...yummy.
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Jul 26, 2014 11:52 AM

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What the hell? This seems highly suspicious to me...wouldn't be surprised if they end up NOT being related. If they really are related then this is retarded. Crap like this randomly gets swept under the rug for 16 years? But like I said, I don't believe that witch and her ugly personality(the mother).
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Feb 28, 2015 9:50 AM
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Good episode overall, just a bit too slow sometimes. I saw the drama coming, it couldn't have been anything else from the hints we had received before. Everyone's labelling the mother as a bi**h, and she kinda is, but what about the father then? He's most likely even more at fault but acts like this is none of his business. You can't help feeling bad for MC and Hiromi who have no fault for their parents' craziness. I still prefer Noe, though, because she's way more interesting, even though she didn't shine as much in this episode.
Jun 15, 2015 8:34 PM

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My god, everyone is just fucking everyone over. lol
Jul 28, 2015 8:15 AM
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Did he hear them?

Sep 10, 2015 7:53 AM
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Yeeees this is looking real good for my girl Noe!!!
But seriously the only sane person in this anime right now is Noe.
Nov 30, 2015 2:04 PM

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Wow, they really dropped several bombs there. The one about Hiromi's parents was excepted, sort of, but not that early. Shin also stepped in and even mentioned he had noticed it before. And that Ai actually told Miyokichi how she feels (in a rather convoluted way, but the message was clear), and from the preview, it looks like things will get either incredibly more complicated next episode, or the first step to clear it up..

Probably the former, seeing how it's still more than half the episodes. Still surprising. I take back what i said last episode, at least partially. It's still all messed up, but they don't hold everything back for the second to last 5 minutes of the last episode (the last 5 minutes are for everyone to get back together after the falling out that just happened and living happily ever after, usually).

Also, Noe is funny. "Special kind of chicken that can fly" is still only a chicken.
Jun 19, 2016 4:24 PM

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Lmao why the hell would you ask somebody to be your girlfriend alongside your best friend. That's just fucking awkward and peer-pressuring, if you ask me. Love that Ai finally just let her boyfriend know that she just isn't into him, and likes Shin.

Shinichiro's mom is so rude, she should be mad at her husband, not Hiromi who is basically innocent. It wasn't her fault her mom and Shin's Dad (probably) got together. DAT PLOT TWIST THO.
Dec 29, 2016 10:42 PM

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Poor Miyokichi
I understand that the mother is annoyed by the fact her husband cheated on her but don't let it all out on the daughter, that's just wrong.
Jun 12, 2017 7:50 AM

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Here we go, time to get some JUICY DRAMA!
Jul 14, 2017 1:48 AM

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Wow... so she might be Shinichiro's half-sister? xc
Poor Miyokichi -_- the 3 main girls are in love with Shinichiro.. it's kinda annoying
Oct 15, 2018 5:13 PM

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I still doubt that they're related.

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Jan 28, 2019 5:20 PM
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BY FAR the best episode, up to this episode I didn't enjoy this anime much, but this episode... I ENJOYED A LOT.... It was really intense, a lot of drama, I felt intimidated.
Apr 2, 2020 11:37 AM

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kurotsuki said:
well , this one lie is just to big to be a lie .
Beside I don't see what else Shin's mother would have told Hiromi .
And she didn't say it was 100% sure .
As for why Shin's mother isn't mad at shin's father , well she probably is damn mad , but she won't complain much . I don't think she's mad because she love him or something , but she seems to me more like the kind of person that is after the money and the good life. Which is exactly what Shin's father has to offer her . She just rather vent her anger on Hiromi's mother who may have had stole her good place , She as well might probably have interpreted it as " he went with another woman because I am not good enough ? " and that's why she hates hiromi . Hiromi represents what her ego couldn't take .
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Oct 14, 2020 11:06 PM
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I saw that half sibling shit coming from a mile away. its pretty easy to predict if you pay enough attention.



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Apr 10, 2021 10:11 PM
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Fuck man the drama is crazy. But shit Hiromi been hurting man.
Aug 7, 2021 7:15 PM
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Lots of very good drama in this episode. Setting up for plenty of heartbreak. I feel pretty damn bad for Shinichirou's friend. The face he made was of total shock and sadness.

Also, wtf? The "next episode" preview had what I would consider to be a pretty big spoiler.
Why tf would they put something like that in a next episode preview? Unless it'll only be a dream or something. Either way, really dumb to have in a preview.

Speaking of spoilers, in previous episode threads, people speculated that Hiromi was Shinichirou's half-sister. Maybe not technically a "spoiler" as it was just predictions but if I hadn't read those posts, the reveal at the end of this episode would have hit me a lot harder.
Sigh. Maybe I should stop reading MAL forum posts in the duration of watching a show. For some reason I feel compelled to post my thoughts though.

erekday said:
I saw that half sibling shit coming from a mile away. its pretty easy to predict if you pay enough attention.

I must have 80 IQ or something because I wouldn't have guessed it if it weren't already pointed out in prior threads. I guess I never truly thought about why Hiromi had a bad relationship with Shinichirou's mother though, I just assumed it would be revealed later and so I just put it to the back of my mind. ...Or I just have 80 IQ and this is a big cope.
Oct 15, 2021 5:43 PM
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incest well that is really strange

Jan 28, 2022 2:29 PM

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LMAO I didn't expect Hiromi possibly to be Shinichirou's half-sister. The mom is the true antagonist from this anime.
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Nov 20, 2022 9:21 PM

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It's nice to know Hiromi's conflict keeping her from expressing her feelings, but it still feels like too much going on with two other girls in the mix. The girls are too loosely connected for them to really feel at odds for Shinichirou's love but the biggest problem remains with him. What is it that draws all of these girls to him? This feels like something that can get fleshed out in a light novel where you can direct the story down a certain path but here it feels rushed and lacking impact.
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