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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, this was more brutal than I had expected. Well, maybe BD will even be uncensored. I thought the episode was bloody and had enough impact for a historical show with its time setting. Heizou Hasegawa could be a complex character so I look forward to the show to explore more about him. That being said, I think this show has potential. |
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| I take it no one will license this, right? Sigh. I really wanted to see this, but let's face it, the audience for this kind of series in the West is slowly fading away. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Finally something good that isn't a sequel. Looking forward to more. |
| I didn't like this episode. I'll give it one more episode to gauge just what this series is trying to do. This episode went from bloody torture to family comedy. Considering the synopsis names Heizo, I was surprised to have the thief be central in the first episode. The art and animation are lacking. What's worse is that I think they're aware of the poor animation and they move the camera to compensate. |
| Eh, not exactly the best episode and it didn't really hook me in but I will give more episodes to see how I feel then. Poor animation too at lots of places, especially with their mouths that didn't match the voice sometimes and the walking animations looked awkward. There was a single amazing scene though and that was when they killed off all the thiefs. |
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| Wow that was brutal! I enjoyed this first episode and can't wait to see where it goes. |
| So glad that I'm not a huge manga reader, because the manga readers WHINE WAY TOO MUCH and have to RUIN every adapted anime for the ANIME ONLY WATCHERS! |
| It can be good. I am not as pessimistic as some people in this thread. About animation, I don't really care if it was off sometimes. 91 Days was my favourite anime from last season and the budget there ended pretty fast. It doesn't matter if in the end story and characters are good. |
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| Hot damn, a lot of you people are pessimistic. For a new studio, while the animation quality wasn't the best, I thought it was fine! I really enjoyed this first episode! People need to lighten up. It was a good showing. I'm looking forward to more! It has a lot of potential. |
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| I disagree with you guys saying that the directing and animation was bad....Honestly, for the type of series that this is, it works quite nicely tbh and regardless, Art/Animation issues does not make a series bad whatsoever All that aside, this series truly has potential in being a dark horse of this season and I loved the overall tone of it as well as this time period...The story wasn't anything amazing but it was quite intriguing and I wouldn't mind seeing more The characters were likable too and I REALLY hope that this won't be the last that we see of the honorable thief guy...Good start |
| That was a good starting episode. The setting, the characters and the story have potential to be good. Already like the chief and the thief guy. Kinda sad that the thief's mentor turned out like that, I'm glad that he still chose to uphold the moral code of thieves. The action was pretty decent, The sword fights towards the end of this episode were pretty cool. The only thing that stuck out to me was the glaring crowd CG which is a little weird when it contrasts with the art style. Apart from that, I didn't really have any issue with the art or animation. Overall, I liked what I saw and will definitely be looking forward to more. |
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| Yeah, the directing and animation makes this feel pretty generic. Which is a shame because i think its quite interesting. I love the honour among thieves idea, or having a righteous heart in a lawless age. It gives it kind of like a bebop-y type theme and macho-ness to it. But I shouldn't make that comparison cause the music, while jazzy, is also generic AF. Would have liked a bigger studio to do something like this. |
| Kinda reminded me of Aoi Bungaku because of the character designs (although they also bear a minor resemblance to Takehiko Inoue's Vagabond ) Also I really liked the OST! |
| This was all right I guess. I have a soft spot for historical anime of any kind (whether it's this time period or a setting like medieval Europe, etc) so I'll see this one through. There wasn't really anything to write home about in this episode, but I did like the part where they raided Tanbei no Chigashira and his followers. Hopefully this will improve as it goes on. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| I liked it a lot, felt like they jammed a lot of story into one episode. |
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| The animation wasn't great, but it wasn't bad enough to drop it. At least not for me. And personally, I enjoyed the OP and ED, as well as the OP animation. This anime also reminds me of Saraiya Goyou. |
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| Very good first episode. The OST sounds so good. I love it. The animation is good too. The characters are likable. Honor among thieves is cool. That torture scene was brutal. The raid against the thieves was awesome. Looking forward to see more. |
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TheServant said: Except the animation wasn't really that stiff....What I mean is that this is the type of series where flashy animation wouldn't be necessary in order to portray what's going on....This series (Or I should say this episode) isn't about just action scenes but more about story and characterization and themesTokoya said: I disagree with you guys saying that the directing and animation was bad....Honestly, for the type of series that this is, it works quite nicely tbh and regardless, Art/Animation issues does not make a series bad whatsoevert What do you mean by this type of series? Is there a specific series that works well with stiff animation & direction that avoid too many things/animations happen in a scene? Awesomecake said: Which is a shame because i think its quite interesting. I love the honour among thieves idea, or having a righteous heart in a lawless age. It gives it kind of like a bebop-y type theme and macho-ness to it. But I shouldn't make that comparison cause the music, while jazzy, is also generic AF. Would have liked a bigger studio to do something like this. I think this anime intended to be a stylish one, considering the music & the OP(which was pretty stylish & cool), but they just failed. Sad, really. Could have been a cool series. |
| I enjoyed watching the anime the ost is fantastic(Jazzy), characters are interesting, the sword battle was good. I hope this show keeps it up for this season. |
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stand said: Sexy voice Hosoyan and he's not even listed on MAL's page yet. Totally Right :D Totally Love it wanna watch more and rewatch samurai champloo right now too |
| Very cool first episode. The animation wasn't the best but I'll look past that since I really like the setting, characters, and action so far. I'm wondering if Kumehachi will make a return or if the series only focuses on Hasegawa and if it's episodic stories or an overarching plot. |
| I got a bit interested of this, just browsing random anime. Quality for animation can be debated, but I liked how rough this animation was, sometimes lower quality can actually lift certain vital elements rather than make them bland. Of course, I don't think this is a top-class anime, it's quite obvious that the budget is what it is. While there are a few shows taking place in the same period, many of them tend to be a bit too niche-styled. As far as first episode goes, it plunged in to the time period as we want to perceive it beautifully, introduced characters well, gave backstory to a plot and executed that plot to create what will become the main story of the series. A good first episode, but it also left an impression that it might slow the pace down a bit further in. Music might not have fit the theme perfectly at times either. 1st EP impression: 8/10 with wide-open plot and sound dragging it down. What I think will happen - story slowing down, but hopefully redeeming itself with a deeper plot and strong ending. I would think it will reach around 6.5-7 in my anime list by the finish. I have not read any of the manga. |
| Oh my god, the music *_* Like where this one is going, it might be the dark horse of the season. A lot of the characters looks similar and I'm not a fan of that iffy CGI of background characters, but there were some really nice scenes and the action was great. We'll just see how it goes I guess! |
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| This was decent, it actually disappointed me a bit, but who cares. This was just the first episode and I'm gonna keep watching because I still see potential in the MC |
Futari wa Milky Holmes was a mistake Yoshii did nothing wrong |
| I think it's an okay first episode. But we are getting so few good shows about Samurai that are more on the realistic side that I just have to follow this one, at least for some time! |
| well classical japanses setting ...let's see how it goes for now |
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| Really enjoyed this episode, really like shows like this! looking forward for next episodes :D |
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Tenth said: Eh, not exactly the best episode and it didn't really hook me in but I will give more episodes to see how I feel then. Poor animation too at lots of places, especially with their mouths that didn't match the voice sometimes and the walking animations looked awkward. There was a single amazing scene though and that was when they killed off all the thiefs. The scene where one of the victims was crying also looked wonky as shit, her crying animation specifically. And crowd is done by some really bad CGI. I guess sasuga Madhouse? It looks like they picked an interesting source material, but the whole show truly seems mostly average directed animation, or MADAO short. |
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| Surprise of the season. Wish there were more animes like that,mature,realistic and with well written characters,only thing i disliked was all that 3d but an anime like that probably got a low budget,still they put a really well animated fight in this episode i was pretty hyped,anyway can't wait to see the next episodes. |
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| The color palette feels so out of place. I hope this doesn't completely suck. |
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| This show is on point, I didn’t expect NOIR (crime fiction featuring hard-boiled cynical characters and bleak sleazy settings) to be blended with a samurai show and I like it. Can't wait to see where this is going… I am very excited for this one! |
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TheServant said: Oh, wow. This anime really showed that the studio is indeed a new & amateur one. Limited animation, but when there's some, it's bad. Simply took my breath away. And from the music & the OP, they wanted to make this some kind of stylish anime, but failed miserably. Because the direction was not stylish at all. devinder said: What's worse is that I think they're aware of the poor animation and they move the camera to compensate. I agree. It showed that the director tried really hard to ease off the animation work & that sacrificed any directing merit. It's just so badly directed. Farabeuf said: I take it no one will license this, right? With this kind of quality, I doubt any company would take any chance with it. Legit, I got bored 3 minutes in. Least stimulating directing Ive seen in a while. |
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| I actually really liked this one. A breath of fresh air compared to all the moe stuff coming out this season. I didn't even notice the apparently "bad animation", though the CG was a bit cheap. Regarding the story and characters, I quite enjoyed it. I didn't expect the boss to turn out to be the same guy - and how in the end the thief stayed true to his values despite meaning it would betray the very person who instilled in him his beliefs. That must've hit him hard. |
MirorinJan 10, 2017 11:42 AM
| This had quite the brutality. Loved the colors here. Too cool. The animation was so-so throughout, until that fight scene which looked pretty cool. The backgrounds are nice too. This looks interesting. The atmosphere they have here is cool. Like how the two characters had similar backgrounds i.e they didn't know about their parents, but they ended up as two completely different people. One became a criminal and one took up stopping crimes. I'm gonna stick around to see where this goes. |
| That was a pretty nice first episode IMO, yes, it had some really awful cgi when walking around the streets, but the story looks promising, and the action scene near the end was pretty cool, looking forward for more. |
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| After my little outburst yesterday complaining that this might not get released at all in the West, I'm really glad that it was picked up by Amazon. Not that bad of first episode. Yeah the art and animation are not mind boggling but what do you expect. The budget for this must be minuscule. This is not a light novel adaptation or a hyped property. The direction could be better too, but that can be said about 9 out of 10 series this season. I hope there is an ongoing storyline and it's not episodic with a villain of the week. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Seems like its a show on a lower budget, but I really liked this first episode. |
| It is an Anime made by a new studio that is animating something that would never be expected to make a decent amount of money. Of course the animation quality will not be high, what the heck do you people expect? |
NayraelJan 10, 2017 1:07 PM
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| finally watched it. Sure, the animation isnt the best but it didnt ruined it for me,i enjoyed it a lot ! Definitly looking forward to more ! |
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