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| YEAAAAAHHHHH, IDC WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK!!! BUT YEAAAHH KIRIGIRI KYOUKO IS STILL ALIIIIIIVEEEEEE!!!!!!! The ending is really good too!!! Though I am kinda sad there is no Junko's last plot twist or something |
| I loved all of this. That happy ending was just wanted I wanted to. Danganronpa 3 is now my favorite anime of all-time :) |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
| I definitely enjoyed the episode myself. There's always going to be people unhappy no matter what lmao so that's all on them. I'm so happy Kirigiri was revived. No, she wasn't brought back from the dead since it was explicitly said that the medicine being taken before slow the poison and leave the person in 'near death' state. Not dead lol I feel like an unsettling amount of people forget how intelligent Kirigiri is. She's usually steps ahead of people, taking risks and doing things quietly & unseen without drawing much attention to herself for understandable reasons. Yeah, I was pretty shook when her NG Code was activated, but the fact that the medicine bottle was near her body, her 'death' scene wasn't made to look heavy and her supposed death didn't look like a big deal outside of her friends who actually thought she was dead, hints of her eventual revival were already there. When you take away 'plot armor', the series pre-establishment that she's a crucial main character of the 78th class survivors, it still makes sense that she got external help to get revived. Not really complicated when you actually pay attention. Kinda odd how others were wondering how Chiaki didn't revive with the rest of the class. Chiaki actually, uh, died in life so it's not like her corpse was hooked up to the Neo World Program lmfao It already explained with the workings of the Program making an AI to watch over them and the class's memories brought her into there, but it doesn't mean it was still Chiaki herself as she was completely in life. There were a lot of people throwing fits beforehand about Chiaki being different in game compared how she was at school, convinced her 'being thirsty for Hinata' wasn't her real personality and how she was in the program was her actual self. Well....it's finally explained lol Not completely the same Chiaki. 77th class's revival was already brought up how possible it was anyways. It was already hinted in the end of DR2, miracles can happen for that class and while the chance was low that everyone that was comatose would wake up, the chance that they would wake was there always. Izuru has every talent ever and is powerful as he was meant to be so it's not surprising at all that he'd could use his accumulated talents involving the body, brain and such to wake everyone up. The class obviously retained their memories and had their despair overwritten as what the program was made for. It can be said that because in-game that the program wasn't completely ready when they were put in so Naegi took a big risk in putting them in there. The Forced Shutdown apparently didn't make them forget everything like the survivors thought they would, so the program did most of the job it was supposed to do. It would have likely stamped out Hinata's Izura's side, as you can apparently see that he still kept that part of him because of the Forced Shutdown. Once again, it takes paying attention, which some people didn't do that well enough lol Either way, applying irl logic to DR of all things don't work lol. Sure, overall there were flaws but I wasn't expecting DR3 to be perfect. I was mostly interested in how they would wrap things up and I'm satisfied. I'm especially satisfied that Nagito got meet Naegi....even if it costed whatever Mikan was gonna say. I was interested in what she was gonna say, but I can only guess it was probably gonna be related to her either thanking him or mentioning her help towards reviving Kyoko. The ending was so cute, with Naegi becoming the new headmaster to bring in new hope for a new hopeful future. (The point of the ending after all, to instill new hope in the world so the The Tragedy can get ghost already) I admit I am still concerned that the events of the ending of DRA3 ending up kinda open ended. I mean sure, Toko and Komaru we're retrieved from Towa City like it was said they would be and I guess because of what happened with FF and the former Remnants, there's no need to worry about them getting into conflicts in Towa anymore. That'd only leave the children, 'cause we saw no conclusion to that controller connected to their helmets. It's hard to imagine if it was kept or given to the former Warriors of Hope. Either way, we're not sure. Someone mentioned that Haiji was a threat somehow......but considering he was kinda broken by the Big Bang Monokuma being taken out, he just became apathetic and spacey even while the other adults of the Resistance were still wilding out around him(in a cg during the credits), so I'm not sure how that translates as a threat lol What he's like now and if he kept being the Resistance's leader after the events of DR:AE is unknown. So I pretty much feel like that was one of the biggest loose ends, but as far as we've been told, Hope's Peak Arc is done, outside of some upcoming OVA. Haha, this got longer than I thought it would be. Whoops. |
MyachuSep 30, 2016 10:18 PM
sarroush said: poptartnyan said: This episode was fantastic and a great end to SDR3. I felt so underwhelmed with last week's episode, so I was really looking forward to seeing the "Hope" ep. I was not disappointed at all. I was so very happy to see the characters from the second game back to their old selves. The only question I have about them is why does Fuyuhiko have the scar that Peko gave him while Nekomaru is back to his old self (aka not a robot)? I was confused as to why they decided to keep a scar that Fuyuhiko received inside of the Neo World Program, but not keep Nekomaru as a robot? I mean, that's just a small detail but I wanted to point it out. In the 2nd game, it was said that the Remnants of Despair pillaged Junko's body and took parts of her for themselves. It's possible Fuyuhiko took her eye just like how Nagito took her hand. Neither of those would be functional, so I wouldn't be surprised if Fuyuhiko ended up removing the eye. Nagito ended up with a robotic hand so it's not impossible. As for Nekomaru, he never actually lost his body in the real world, so he wouldn't be a robot. But in the prologue of Mirai-hen, Fuyuhiko has an eyepatch in the fight against the FF, and then Junko died. At least that´s how I understood the story. [quote MonoReaper said: 3:Well i hope i woulndt be suprised if this just will never be answered^^. Like several other small things from the Spin-off Manga/Novels Question here: how does the people who follow DR consider/treat the novels/mangas/etc.? Like spin-offs or like a puzzle? I treat the whole thing as a puzzle, since some parts that are a mistery are sorta explained in the different stories. I have seen that some others do the same, but it feels like a great amount of people don't take into consideration the other sources that aren't the games. |
| As expected of a final episode called Kibou-hen, all this hope refreshes me. I really needed something like this after the two disappointing last episodes of both Mirai and Zetsubou, I was looking forward for an ending like this and I've got it. Sure, there still are some things I couldn't explain myself, like how the 77th class managed to get away from the island (maybe they were took from Togami's men?) or how Hinata successfully turn them into Hope and, among other things, "reviving" those who died in the game. Maybe it wasn't true that the ones who died in the game Naegi created for them was fated to never waking up again. I don't know, I just needed more clarity. Apart from that, Kibou-hen managed to make me forget the two finales, reconsidering the entire two shows to finally reach a point where I could rate them the best way I could. I seriously want to give credits to that guy who made the video-theory of Kirigiri being still alive (you know what I'm talking about, everyone has seen it), turns out he was fucking right, good job mate! Although I'm disappointed that they were not brave enough to let a key character like her really die, on the other hand I am the happiest guy on Earth because my favourite character survived :D So, the ride has finally ended, this time for sure. I'll miss you Danganronpa, you made me think, cry and laugh through a very long adventure started two years ago when I played the first game that finds its epilogue today, after witnessing the best Hope possible. I'll miss waiting Monday and Tuesday to forget everything else for 23~ mins of my life to just enjoy a new episode and I'll miss every single chara of your universe. Yes, even Komaeda, who is someone I will never be able to fully appreciate, I'll miss even him. It may be true that a new game is coming out, but to me, Danganronpa ends here. I will surely look forward to Danganronpa V3 but whatever happens I will never compare it to the masterpiece this whole story is. Munakata-Naegi-Chisa-Juzo-Chiaki best charas. To conclude, I was expecting this moment to finally rate all three shows. Here they come: Mirai-hen: 8,5 Definitely my favourite out of the two. It was the most Danganronpa-like and made me theorize like very other few things. Zetsubou-hen: 8 A good show, with some very good moments but way too much downsides too. I was going to rate it a 7, but the events of Kibou-hen and the wonderful atmosphere he made me feel, makes it gain a lot. Joy, curiosity, fear, despair. That's Zetsubou-hen for you. Kibou-hen: 9,5 The best finale not only for the shows, but for the entire series itself. There are still things not clearly answered, but the quality of the ending itself is unquestionable. This is it. May Hope be always with you. |
TanoX_93Oct 1, 2016 2:17 AM
Rukoudiora said: AlliedWishes said: Oh, wait. You're right. Only she used it, and Mikan only talked about her. I mistook "them" as multiple people. Sigh... there goes my moment of happiness. Thanks. T-T Look on the bright side, Kizakura fulfilled his promise to Jin :) This made me smile for a moment.... AmyTwo said: AlliedWishes said: Oh, wait. You're right. Only she used it, and Mikan only talked about her. I mistook "them" as multiple people. Sigh... there goes my moment of happiness. Thanks. T-T Haha. It's such a shame, but oh well. Back to the depths of despair you go. Til' I read this. Talk about cruel. My dear Bandai is still basically death fodder. |
| Hum...I wonder how many more days will this thread stay active before people start losing interest in this anime? Tbh, a tinny part of me wants to...let it go, and move on...already... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| wtf of course Kirigiri wouldn't die I almost feel stupid for believing one of the main characters can die. |
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| Yup, DR3 is dedicated to its fans and not to its story. Kirigiri needs to stay dead, the fuck. I mean, I wanted Chiaki to live, but if she suddenly resurrected I'd be really pissed. The same goes for Kirigiri. Sure, the cure-coma thing is plausible. But really, it was a deus and a candy treat for the fans. All ranting aside, I liked how they focused on the 77th class. They never really gave the spotlight to them in Despair Arc. Question though, why does Kuzuryuu have a scar? Also, Naegi+Komaeda interaction. 6/10. (Could be lower of I wasn't a big DR fan) |
RyuugamonoOct 1, 2016 9:01 AM
All people have their own sh*t tastes, therefore, there are no sh*t tastes, since everything is equally sh*t. A VERY LOGICAL PHILOSOPHY |
Ryuugamono said: Kirigiri needs to stay dead, the fuck. I mean, I wanted Chiaki to live, but if she suddenly resurrected I'd be really pissed. The same goes for Kirigiri. Sure, the cure-coma thing is plausible. But really, it was a deus and a treat for the fans. All ranting aside, I liked how they focused on the 77th class. They never really gave the spotlight to them in Despair Arc. Question though, why does Kuzuryuu have a scar? Fuyuhiko has a scar because of what happened in the past as a RoD. He took out one of his eyeballs and replaced it with Junko's. It was also shown as a cutscene in Chapter 6. Do you even know what a deus is or are you just using it because it's a buzzword? Kirigiri shouldn't have wasted her life on this stupid anime. It's terrible and none of the DR1 survivors should die unless it's needed for the plot to advance and not some stupid shock value. |
ImaginBreaker said: What a rushed ending and full of holes. It was enjoyable for a big Danganronpa fan like me but some things irked me. Another Episode had a cliffhanging ending showing off Monaca's brother still being a threat, what happened to that? What happened to Monaca and the other kids? What happened to the world? How did it fix? I thought the second cast would looked messed up due to it being said they did things to their body in DR2. Why did only Nagito and Fuyuhiko have Junko's body? I thought most of them did it. What happened to wake up the second game cast? So much questions. That's bad for writing finale but good for fanservice I guess. Monaca's brother? Still a threat? No, he gave up on hope and despair like Monaca did in this series We saw the 77th class as how they were as UD in the beginning of the series, they weren't that different, it's safe to assume that Junko meant Fuyuhiko and Nagito when she mentioned that in SDR2 The world is most likely still the same thing, it's just that a hopeful future is actually in their grasp now Hajime said in this episode that he was involved, Komaeda's OVA will detail that We saw the UDG kids in episode 7, they're fine |
HyperL said: Hum...I wonder how many more days will this thread stay active before people start losing interest in this anime? Tbh, a tinny part of me wants to...let it go, and move on...already... It is already slowing down. Many of the misteries or questions of the anime will be floating on the air until a new story emerges. You can try going to the V3 game threads, though. People are theorizing in those like there is no tomorrow. |
 ALL IS FORGIVEN I bet they fucked like rabbits that night I'm going to miss them all so much but at least there's the Komaeda OVA and Dangan Ronpa V3 to look forward to kawaii-despair said: ^All of thisOh man,I didn't even need subs for this,I just trusted my weeb instincts to understand lmao (tho it wasn't even that hard,all they said was hope hope hope) Imposter disguised as Munakata im crying You know what,fuck it,I'm gonna overlook everything shitty that happened,all the bullshit and all the mad moments I had to keep up with this bullshit of series. FUCK IT ALL HOLY SHIT if I didn't love Hinata enough now I have a burning passion for him. So the highlights are: "Hinata-kun" (fUCK ME UP JUST FUCK M E UP OH GOD) Ko with a robo hand Ko MEETING NAEGI FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HAVING YET AGAIN A HOPEBONER Ko and Hinata in the same frame,smiling that's it. 10/10 jk Mitarai is finally happy how he derserves, my poor son I was never mad at you. please live on and be happy Also,can we appreciate the fact that they fucking animated their sprites?? Before it was only Komaeda but now.. ;; God give me strenght I'm so proud of you Naegg,you naive nugget. You did well(kind of lmao). Here,take a living Kirigiri,you deserve it. Here,become the headmaster of the new Hope's Peak Academy,you deserve it. I prefered Munakata to be the headmaster tbqh but he has to get over his lost love and by that I mean Juzo of course. Hope is always the best thing and this sole episode proves it. Fuck the fanservice and bullshit,this was pleasing my heart |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Seeing all the SDR2 cast alive makes me so happy. That was all I need. |
| I Salute to Kimura, made the Antidote while inside the Killing Game The Unsung Hero of Danganronpa The whole dangan series Naegi and Kirigir are the symbol of Hope Kirigiri will not die Time to wait for the anime of Danganronpa V3 |
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| I am impressed how making a super AI, making fire out of nowhere, and whatever talent this 'universe' have didn't faze any of you, but still beeched about brain dead people coming back, or having the SHSL Pharmacist develop an antagonist for the poison. If anything, being a Naegi fan, I don't like how he the spotlight wasn't really his. The animator guy and his self persecution thing got it. :X |
dzn018Oct 1, 2016 12:46 PM
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| This fucking episode, or this fucking last episode made me fangasm from the beginning until the end of the episode. I mean, how the hell did hinata restore all of them, like into the very original personality without any trance of the despair. i'm just happy while i was watching this episode from the beginning. i just can't belive it and i didn't see it coming. like when someone unaccidently kick a rock and continue to the big one, and i was like "no fcking way this is gonna be him" XD they show him first then i got crazy xD great ending imo from overall view. well executed i mean. but the animation, especially the action in this episode look kinda lame to me. wish they adapted it more cooler tho. and put that aside, is there actually another adaptation coming soon in 2017 for danganronpa ? it's an original ? what the heck is it ? i'm at lost right now xD and fucking hyped for sure. and when kirigiri is actually still alive : djwaiofhwoiafbnwlokcvjw eagoijewjfu30-rfiq03of-0i1-mrf oQ FOqfl3q-3qIFKO3Qpfj3mqOFP QJwcfo[pqkF P[Q |
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MonoReaper said: 1:Again 2 and 3 are different things. Only because 3 is the future of 2 doeasnt mean it changes the amount of actions Naegi did in 3. What he did in 2 affected to a great cause 3 but he himself did in 3 nothing expect surviving the killing game and most likely set up the new school for V3 at least what it seems to be in V3 a old old old Hopes Peak building that was rebuild for the new killing games. 2: I dont refer to the EP1 scene where for some odd reason Monokuma talks to Naegi like he was actually there. But this still was a Monokuma that was different from the rest of the animated Monokumas after this. Nonetheless around the first teaser trailer was shown (the one where Chisas voic actress talks about DR stuff) there was a interview where Kodaka said this will be the final fight of Hopes vs Despair and our final battle that Naegi will have to face head on this time. He said it straight at that time and it was not like he said it would be. 3:Well i hope i woulndt be suprised if this just will never be answered^^. Like several other small things from the Spin-off Manga/Novels 4:I am not talking about the brainswahing. (That is as well a clusterfuck itself) i was refering about the redkon around the creaton of AI Chiaki & the NeoWorldProgamm. Like the Nanami-Spinoff never happens that is still ongoing and shows us a familiy realathinship with teh Fujisakis and so on. 5:I wouldnt call it a miracle it was just that Junko was lying again most likely to get the bodies from them. Overall the most likely thing was only Hajime/Kamukura mangaed to get all his memorys back as Hajime Hinata because as we now know Izuru planned everything about the events of DR2 all along. And also knew about everything that would happen because of his Ultimate Analyst abilitys that are far superior to Junkos. 6-7: Indirect consequenses. Like everything else after the RoD is her indirect doing. Doeasnt change that she is dead and not the villian of the story this time. The RoD are more villian than Mitarai/Tengan/Chisa ever were/was. Tengans reason doesnt make it more logical and it is a total insane way to go about things. The only ones who were trying to create so negativ inpact on the FF were mindless Chisa and our candy girl. Nobody else deserves such a dead for such a idiotic reason. Tengans motive was bullshit and as extreme as Munakatas reason was to destory despair. And yes that is exactly what i meant with mindless puppets. Chisa is a slave to Despair because of Junko. Her mind was litterly raped and brainwashed to be a Despair fanatic like Junko. Doesnt change that she had a this point no free will because the original Chisa never would do such thing= this Chisa is a prisoner to herself and mindless puppet that has only one single reason to live/=Despair. This is what a mindless brainwashed puppet is. = Chisa=RoD(was) 8: I think you misunderstand a great amount of things here. First the overall plot for this killing game was not strong/ this is not a mindset this is a fact we seen in the Mirai-hen Arc. Chisa was featured in Despair Arc so we got to know her character so she is not in the dead meat department. Because she paid for her crimes and her story was over at the point of EP1. Tengan was the "mastermind" behind this in the end he had a crazy reason and was just a evil grandpa (WHY GRANDPA WHY?!?!?!) so his story was just a non existent one because he had no real reason besides his extreme tunnel vision about his "hope". Bandai was just killed off we didnt knew anything about him or his story at all. His only reason to take screentime was to explain the NG code. Great Gozu also a really nice character i want to see more of him. No i will never have the chance because his dead was to replace the fake dead of Asahina becasue of plot armor. His only deed was protecting Naegi nothing else. Just dead meat for protection. Seiko one of the most fleshed out characters of the FF. Just got killed for no good reason. She was honest and nice person who just wanted to help everyone. Yeah Tengan she is sooooo corrupt she deserves to die in this killing game^^. Yeah she was soooo despair. Than we have candy girl and her lover. Her lover got nothing expect his love and dewlicious candys. Nothing literlly nothing we will ever know about him. Candy girl was a insecure bitch for no real reason becasue as far as we seen she was never betrayed or anything like that. Instead she jsut used people around her. The only real person who was creating problems for the FF. Mitarai was never supposed to be here and was one of the 2 missing classmates of the 77th class that was never reaveald and only teased until this point. So he had the most valid reason to exist. And his purpsoe was also clear in the Despair Arc in Mirai hen there was nothing more to just being used again by all the asshole people around him. Poor Mitarai. Juzo? Juzo had no purpose other than dying for Munakatas character development and for the sake of plot armor to stop Naeigi from killing himself. His meat was super despair dewlicious. nom nom nom thanks for that. Munakata doeasnt count as well because he was the rival to Naegi that was needed because ther was no real enemy in this entire Anime. There was none nothing. There was no real reason for anything because the reason that was explainded was just utterly nonsens. 9:Just like Naegi said Miracles happens to guys like team. You cant cure cancer with just saying everything will be fine. This is not how it supposed to work. Kirigis said the same as Naegi people/guys like them good things always happens to them. This dosnt say anything concrete about them being back in the future. It is a possibility. And yes it goes against the core message of DR2. The whole finale was about choosing their own Future. Not Hope nor Despair. There will be both of them on the way but they will keep moving forward. And what did they? For the sake of Hope they stopped Mitarai and played the bad guys for the world again after disappearing suddenly for months. They did choose sides and didnt go their own way aside from these 2. I tought the Nagito OVA is about his time with Monaca? 10: You can feel free to agree to disagree with me. We have world beteween our train of thoughts about everything that happend so far. The only thing we two share is our enjoyment for this Anime and the awesome moments it had. 1- Dude...DR 3 is a sequel to SDR2, you're looking at it as a standalone when you should be seeing it as the end of an arc so yeah, Naegi's actions in 2 are relevant to what happened in 3, Togami even says it as much, it was the fact that he chose to give a chance to the RoD that eventually managed to save the FF from completely crashing down 2- Kodaka is a known ruse master, he said that he wouldn't shown Jabberwock island in the Future arc and he ended up doing it anyway, you can't believe in what he says completely. Anyway, as far as we know the Monokuma from the beginning was just a recording like the attacker time one Anyway I liked the twist of the final battle being different forms of hope battling against one another rather than the same hope vs despair that we had in 1 and 2 3- Well I hope they talk about that there 4- You do know that the Nanami spin off was never canon right? It's just like DR Togami, some works aren't part of the canon timeline, like DR IF Anyway there was no retcon involving Chiaki AI, we just didn't know the specifics of her creation until DR3 5- You're misinterpreting Izuru's intention and what happened in the end of SDR2.His intention wasn't just to get his memory back. It was just to see what was more unpredictable, hope or despair and what happened in the end of SDR2 was indeed a miracle, it was called that 6/7 - The Despair arc was also part of the DR3 anime and Junko was the ultimate villain there, in the same way the events of the Future arc only happened because of her influence You're forgetting about Munakata, by far he had the biggest power in the FF and his ideals of constant war contradicted with Tengan's. Tengan himself probably saw the sacrifice of a few FF executives as a necessary price to bring absolute hope to the world, it is less crazy than "lol despair" Mindless puppet would mean that Chisa lost her agency as a person, she didn't, what the brainwashing did was just twist her mind to one mindset close to Junko Enoshima's mindset, as in she enjoyed causing and receiving despair which is why her priority went from "supporting Munakata" to "bring despair to Munakata" 8- I don't see how it is more nonsense than Junko's lol despair tbh Tengan's reasoning was complex but simple at the same time, he didn't care about sacrificing an organization he no longer had full control of and that he no longer truly cared about for a real chance of brinigng absolute hope to the world This is DR, not every good character will survive, not every good character will receive character development. We had good characters in the Future arc and some of them got to complete their character arc and some didn't. Tengan never got to see the end of his plan, Juzo fulfilled his character arc by redeeming himself (to the fans as well) from his screw up with Junko We had Ruruka representing how crippling is the relationships of a person who relies only on her talent for self worth, we had Kizakura, a genuinely nice character that had a nice send off helping protect the girl he promised to protect We had Mitarai and his whole arc and Munakata's arc and development too, basically these two new characters were at the center of the plot in the series And in any case, I'd gladly exchange Gozu for Asahina any time soon tbh, I mean Gozu is a good and loyal guy but any other DR fan cared about Asahina more So I honestly don't see how these new characters are suddenly irrelevant just because they died 9-Dude, we are talking about the DR world, a world where luck is an actual freaking super power, are you sure you want to compare our real world with the DR world? Anyway it doesn't contradicts anything,the hint is there, the foreshadowing is there. The SDR2 cast was never dead they could always come back And if you paid attention to the ending you'd know that it wasn't a 100% pure Hope ending, the ending basically told you that despair is necessary, a world without sadness and regret is boring and without meaning. So no the SDR2 class didn't side fully with hope this time around. Nagito's OVA will be about him waking up btw 10- I'm just calling you out on a few things that you got wrong like saying that DR2 contradicted one of SDR2 core messages, which is simply wrong |
-ZET- said: MightyM16 said: Nagito's OVA is going to detail his awakening so you'll have that at least But you can't say it came from nowhere though, Hajime's ultimate BS was involved and they hinted that they could come back by the end of SDR2 Oh, I didn't knew about the OVA, I guess they'll try to explain as much as possible then. I don't remember the hint at the end of SDR2, it's been 3years since I've watched the playthrough. It's there, try rewatching it again kacaj said: MightyM16 said: 1- No it isn't. Togami directly referenced it, if it wasn't for Naegi's hope, for the fact that he desired to save the remnants, the events of this arc wouldn't have happened in the way they did 2- No, he didn't. Monokuma said that to Naegi in episode 1 but turns out it was all a fake out, the killing game was for the sake of hope 3-Yeah, the 13th branch leader will probably be revealed there 4- Not really "inb4 brainwashing" It was present since DR0 and was implied in SDR2 5- The entire ending of SDR2 was a miracle by itself because the survivors weren't supposed to retain their memories after the shutdown but they did, you have Naegi saying that miracles were possible for people like them and Kyoko saying that there was a small chance that their friends could come back so honestly, you just managed to contradict yourself on what you said. None of the core mesages of SDR2 were ruined 6-7 - "Junko's dead" Doesn't means she wasn't the main antagonist, especially since what happened in Future was a direct consequence of her actions. Chisa wasn't a "brainwashed puppet", you don't understanding what the brainwashing did, it didn't turn them into puppets, it jut made them love despair by twisting their mindset to Junko as Mitarai explained in episode 12 of the Future arc Huh, you do know that they were in an apocalyptic world right? They were in constant war? Anyway, Tengan did what he did to get rid of the corrupt FF and open a pathway for Ryota's hope, he saw no other choice because if he remained quiet he would be seeing Munakata steal his position in front of him and ruin the world through more conflict 8 - Just because we won't see them again it means thery were useless? What kind of mindset is that? They had their reason to exist in the anime, some of them were clearly fodders like Bandai but others like Chisa, Juzo, Munakata, Tengan, Ryota and even Seiko , Ruruka and Koichi had a real impact on the story and some of them even had a nice development I mean look at Juzo, he went from hated character to fan favorite, same could be said for Munakata 9- sorry but Kyoko herself says at the end of SDR2 that they have all had a small chance of coming back which means they weren't fully dead Nagito's OVA in January will cover their awakening, it seems Ryota occupied Hagakure's place most likely Naegi explains in episode 12 why Tengan just didn't steal Ryota's video Hagakure wasn´t called in from the beginning, if Tengan planned to make him participate he would´ve been invited to the meeting. Ryota only arrives slightly before the beginning of the game and Hagakure´s not even in the building at that point, so I´m sure that it´s not a plausible answer. And I don´t know how Naegi explains it with that. Naegi explains why Tengan didn't just want to steal Ryota's phone in episode 12, just pay attention to it And Hagakure was most likely the one who would be in Ryota's place since he was accounted for the meeting but decided to stay outside for whatever reason |
| @Dreams_of_Neko Well some of the Spin-offs are really bad. Like for example DanganRonpa Togami (Novel) is about Toagami in the mist of the world going downhill and the RoDs are still in despair. And the overall plot is about him and the "cause" for the world to fall in Despair. "aka" the Despair Book that here again^^. "Brainwashes" people if they read it into despair. So yeah. Than we have DR Kirigiri is about her becoming the Ultimate Detektiv along a other character and a oragnisation that played no major role for DR overall. Than we have DanganRonpa2 Spin-off Chiaki. DanganRonpa Zero ofcs. DanganRonpa2 Nagito. KillerKiller Some of them really do a good job giving us more fleshed out characters +worldbuilding others are just crazy and pure madness. @hp4ver Someone on Tumblr found out that in the backround of the Trailes and some pictures from Famitsu there are Kirigiri and Asahina in the backround. So there is that and with Naegi reopening the school we have most likely the big setup for V3. |
| This felt more like a bad episode of Dragon Ball Z/Super... Also how does Another Episode fit into this? Why exactly does Episode 7 exist? When did Junko have time to meet the warriors of hope? I'm not even questioning why they are alive again, because appearently anyone can come back from the dead at anytime... Danganronpa 3 was a mistake. |
Tokuiten said: This felt more like a bad episode of Dragon Ball Z/Super... Also how does Another Episode fit into this? Why exactly does Episode 7 exist? When did Junko have time to meet the warriors of hope? I'm not even questioning why they are alive again, because appearently anyone can come back from the dead at anytime... Danganronpa 3 was a mistake. Someone didn't watch the credits of Another Episode till the end...They were all shown alive and fine right there...  When Junko met the Warriors the Apocalypse was already on going...So it was not much after the end of Zetsubou-hen... |
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MightyM16 said: MonoReaper said: 1:Again 2 and 3 are different things. Only because 3 is the future of 2 doeasnt mean it changes the amount of actions Naegi did in 3. What he did in 2 affected to a great cause 3 but he himself did in 3 nothing expect surviving the killing game and most likely set up the new school for V3 at least what it seems to be in V3 a old old old Hopes Peak building that was rebuild for the new killing games. 2: I dont refer to the EP1 scene where for some odd reason Monokuma talks to Naegi like he was actually there. But this still was a Monokuma that was different from the rest of the animated Monokumas after this. Nonetheless around the first teaser trailer was shown (the one where Chisas voic actress talks about DR stuff) there was a interview where Kodaka said this will be the final fight of Hopes vs Despair and our final battle that Naegi will have to face head on this time. He said it straight at that time and it was not like he said it would be. 3:Well i hope i woulndt be suprised if this just will never be answered^^. Like several other small things from the Spin-off Manga/Novels 4:I am not talking about the brainswahing. (That is as well a clusterfuck itself) i was refering about the redkon around the creaton of AI Chiaki & the NeoWorldProgamm. Like the Nanami-Spinoff never happens that is still ongoing and shows us a familiy realathinship with teh Fujisakis and so on. 5:I wouldnt call it a miracle it was just that Junko was lying again most likely to get the bodies from them. Overall the most likely thing was only Hajime/Kamukura mangaed to get all his memorys back as Hajime Hinata because as we now know Izuru planned everything about the events of DR2 all along. And also knew about everything that would happen because of his Ultimate Analyst abilitys that are far superior to Junkos. 6-7: Indirect consequenses. Like everything else after the RoD is her indirect doing. Doeasnt change that she is dead and not the villian of the story this time. The RoD are more villian than Mitarai/Tengan/Chisa ever were/was. Tengans reason doesnt make it more logical and it is a total insane way to go about things. The only ones who were trying to create so negativ inpact on the FF were mindless Chisa and our candy girl. Nobody else deserves such a dead for such a idiotic reason. Tengans motive was bullshit and as extreme as Munakatas reason was to destory despair. And yes that is exactly what i meant with mindless puppets. Chisa is a slave to Despair because of Junko. Her mind was litterly raped and brainwashed to be a Despair fanatic like Junko. Doesnt change that she had a this point no free will because the original Chisa never would do such thing= this Chisa is a prisoner to herself and mindless puppet that has only one single reason to live/=Despair. This is what a mindless brainwashed puppet is. = Chisa=RoD(was) 8: I think you misunderstand a great amount of things here. First the overall plot for this killing game was not strong/ this is not a mindset this is a fact we seen in the Mirai-hen Arc. Chisa was featured in Despair Arc so we got to know her character so she is not in the dead meat department. Because she paid for her crimes and her story was over at the point of EP1. Tengan was the "mastermind" behind this in the end he had a crazy reason and was just a evil grandpa (WHY GRANDPA WHY?!?!?!) so his story was just a non existent one because he had no real reason besides his extreme tunnel vision about his "hope". Bandai was just killed off we didnt knew anything about him or his story at all. His only reason to take screentime was to explain the NG code. Great Gozu also a really nice character i want to see more of him. No i will never have the chance because his dead was to replace the fake dead of Asahina becasue of plot armor. His only deed was protecting Naegi nothing else. Just dead meat for protection. Seiko one of the most fleshed out characters of the FF. Just got killed for no good reason. She was honest and nice person who just wanted to help everyone. Yeah Tengan she is sooooo corrupt she deserves to die in this killing game^^. Yeah she was soooo despair. Than we have candy girl and her lover. Her lover got nothing expect his love and dewlicious candys. Nothing literlly nothing we will ever know about him. Candy girl was a insecure bitch for no real reason becasue as far as we seen she was never betrayed or anything like that. Instead she jsut used people around her. The only real person who was creating problems for the FF. Mitarai was never supposed to be here and was one of the 2 missing classmates of the 77th class that was never reaveald and only teased until this point. So he had the most valid reason to exist. And his purpsoe was also clear in the Despair Arc in Mirai hen there was nothing more to just being used again by all the asshole people around him. Poor Mitarai. Juzo? Juzo had no purpose other than dying for Munakatas character development and for the sake of plot armor to stop Naeigi from killing himself. His meat was super despair dewlicious. nom nom nom thanks for that. Munakata doeasnt count as well because he was the rival to Naegi that was needed because ther was no real enemy in this entire Anime. There was none nothing. There was no real reason for anything because the reason that was explainded was just utterly nonsens. 9:Just like Naegi said Miracles happens to guys like team. You cant cure cancer with just saying everything will be fine. This is not how it supposed to work. Kirigis said the same as Naegi people/guys like them good things always happens to them. This dosnt say anything concrete about them being back in the future. It is a possibility. And yes it goes against the core message of DR2. The whole finale was about choosing their own Future. Not Hope nor Despair. There will be both of them on the way but they will keep moving forward. And what did they? For the sake of Hope they stopped Mitarai and played the bad guys for the world again after disappearing suddenly for months. They did choose sides and didnt go their own way aside from these 2. I tought the Nagito OVA is about his time with Monaca? 10: You can feel free to agree to disagree with me. We have world beteween our train of thoughts about everything that happend so far. The only thing we two share is our enjoyment for this Anime and the awesome moments it had. 1- Dude...DR 3 is a sequel to SDR2, you're looking at it as a standalone when you should be seeing it as the end of an arc so yeah, Naegi's actions in 2 are relevant to what happened in 3, Togami even says it as much, it was the fact that he chose to give a chance to the RoD that eventually managed to save the FF from completely crashing down 2- Kodaka is a known ruse master, he said that he wouldn't shown Jabberwock island in the Future arc and he ended up doing it anyway, you can't believe in what he says completely. Anyway, as far as we know the Monokuma from the beginning was just a recording like the attacker time one Anyway I liked the twist of the final battle being different forms of hope battling against one another rather than the same hope vs despair that we had in 1 and 2 3- Well I hope they talk about that there 4- You do know that the Nanami spin off was never canon right? It's just like DR Togami, some works aren't part of the canon timeline, like DR IF Anyway there was no retcon involving Chiaki AI, we just didn't know the specifics of her creation until DR3 5- You're misinterpreting Izuru's intention and what happened in the end of SDR2.His intention wasn't just to get his memory back. It was just to see what was more unpredictable, hope or despair and what happened in the end of SDR2 was indeed a miracle, it was called that 6/7 - The Despair arc was also part of the DR3 anime and Junko was the ultimate villain there, in the same way the events of the Future arc only happened because of her influence You're forgetting about Munakata, by far he had the biggest power in the FF and his ideals of constant war contradicted with Tengan's. Tengan himself probably saw the sacrifice of a few FF executives as a necessary price to bring absolute hope to the world, it is less crazy than "lol despair" Mindless puppet would mean that Chisa lost her agency as a person, she didn't, what the brainwashing did was just twist her mind to one mindset close to Junko Enoshima's mindset, as in she enjoyed causing and receiving despair which is why her priority went from "supporting Munakata" to "bring despair to Munakata" 8- I don't see how it is more nonsense than Junko's lol despair tbh Tengan's reasoning was complex but simple at the same time, he didn't care about sacrificing an organization he no longer had full control of and that he no longer truly cared about for a real chance of brinigng absolute hope to the world This is DR, not every good character will survive, not every good character will receive character development. We had good characters in the Future arc and some of them got to complete their character arc and some didn't. Tengan never got to see the end of his plan, Juzo fulfilled his character arc by redeeming himself (to the fans as well) from his screw up with Junko We had Ruruka representing how crippling is the relationships of a person who relies only on her talent for self worth, we had Kizakura, a genuinely nice character that had a nice send off helping protect the girl he promised to protect We had Mitarai and his whole arc and Munakata's arc and development too, basically these two new characters were at the center of the plot in the series And in any case, I'd gladly exchange Gozu for Asahina any time soon tbh, I mean Gozu is a good and loyal guy but any other DR fan cared about Asahina more So I honestly don't see how these new characters are suddenly irrelevant just because they died 9-Dude, we are talking about the DR world, a world where luck is an actual freaking super power, are you sure you want to compare our real world with the DR world? Anyway it doesn't contradicts anything,the hint is there, the foreshadowing is there. The SDR2 cast was never dead they could always come back And if you paid attention to the ending you'd know that it wasn't a 100% pure Hope ending, the ending basically told you that despair is necessary, a world without sadness and regret is boring and without meaning. So no the SDR2 class didn't side fully with hope this time around. Nagito's OVA will be about him waking up btw 10- I'm just calling you out on a few things that you got wrong like saying that DR2 contradicted one of SDR2 core messages, which is simply wrong 1: My point doesnt change. What Naegi did in DR2 and DR3 are two different things. In 2 he took the RoD put them into the NWP and with this he saved them (basiclly) In DR3 Future Arc. He survided the killing game and in the Hope Arc he does what he always did trusting in the good sides of the 77th(people) and let the 77th class talk Mitarai out of his "despair" (the entire time he ran away from the reality that he "helped" Junko creating the Despair Video and causing so much dead and suffering in the world and to his classmates.) Naegi did nothing. Because there was nothing to do for him. And as the first & main Protagonist of this series it was just bad. Bad for one of the biggest and important characters to do nothing other than watching how things work out. Naegi did nothing because he had nothing to do this is the biggest flaw you can create for a MC of your series. 2:I know Kodaka is the Ultimate Troll xD. But at this point i belived him. I was so hyped the final showdown will happen and everyone can shine in this last story arc around Hopes Peak. But it wasnt that. There was no real battle in terms of Hope vs. Despair. As you said it is Hope vs. Hope. And i see this as the biggest flaw of this plot. Hope itself is a fragile thing and the line between Hope & Despair is so small you can easily step into the wrong side. Its not like i dont understand the concept behind this. If i didnt read this interview at that time i woulndt even be so sad about this because without it i had no reason to complain about it and could just enjoy it. 3: Maybe they will show us more about the FF leader in KillerKiller because we saw Juzo & Munakata showing up there. So i am somewhat hyped we will see more of Miaya maybe.....pls i want to know more about her. Q_Q 4:From what i know is that Zero, DR Kirigiri, Naegis unluckiest day, DR2 Nagito, DR2 Chiaki, UltraDespair Hagakure & Killer Killer are canon. I know the IF story ofc. It was a great what if scenario also Mukuro <3. 5: Yes but he also didnt knew that Hajime was still insinde him and this was also a unexpected event/outcome for him. And yes that he was watching the events of DR2 out of curiosity who would win. I guess the biggest hint to all that was UDG ending where he got really angry at AI Junko. (Also....there is still the AI Junko from DR1 out and free.) 6/7: I dont see why you bring up Despair Arc. It was a big big big big bonus to the overall content/ story revelations of DR0. As it told us in the first half the story of Chisa and the 77th class and in the grandios B-Time Junkos plot and deeds in Hopes Peak. What i say is that Junko is indirect the culprit behind the chain of events in Future Arc but it still doesnt change the fact that there is no real villian no real big enemy to fight. Because you cant fight the dead...well you can but that would be fucked up as well. R.I.G Junko. 8:Well i Junko was never "sane" to begin with. And here Despair mindset was anything but not normal. Tengans reasons was a fucked up way to go about it and i still think about his intentions. Still Grandpa was evil all along plot because he wants to purge the FF is just the same extreme as the UDs wanting everyone to suffer and torment in Despair for Despairs sake. His "Hope" was not better than Despair. Because both caused dead and pain for the people around them. I dont expect them to survive what i expected was more from them. I can hardly feel anything for characters i just met and then getting killed off like it was nothing. I have no connection to Miaya whatsoever. And the list goes oon with the FF leaders. The only ones who managed to make me feel for them were Juzo/Seiko/Munakata/Mitarai(but Mitaria doesnt count because was the missing 77th classmate we never got to now but was always teased) Thats it. FFs leaders were just dead meat. (for the Asahina arugment) That is exactly that. We care more about Asahina because the Fans and ther overall Fandom of DR knows her for years. Ofcs you choose a character over someone you only saw for a few episodes and than he died. 9; What i compare is the amount of insanity and the level of Ultimate bullshit has a limit. And my limit is "cureing" braindead people. I can overlook many things. But this was too much. I want Ultimate Luck as well Q_Q Again i think we talk about different things here. I already mentioned that they let the ending of DR2 open for us the players to think about the ending and interpret the chance for them to come back for ourselves. I never questioned that they woulnd come back. But HOW they can come back. Nagito was clear why because of his Luck. But the rest was unclear. It was not clear. There was a chance but it was clear that the DR2 killing game hat consequenses. They way they handled their comeback was not good. I love that they come back but how it was presented to us was just bad storytelling. I have played all the games so far just so you know^^. What Hajime said about the balance is one thing. But what they did is exaclty that. For the Hope of the world. For the Hope that the FF can regain strength and not crumble. For Hope they played again the bad guys with the RoD video. For the sake of humanitys Hope they stopped Mitarai ans saved him. For the sake of Hope they saved Naegi and his friends. They did choose one of the sides= it was Hope as the Episodes say. Kibo-hen/HopeSide. When will the OVA come out for us? And will Funimation the OVA? 10: (I see what you did there :D) Counterargument!  |
MonoReaper said: @Dreams_of_Neko Well some of the Spin-offs are really bad. Like for example DanganRonpa Togami (Novel) is about Toagami in the mist of the world going downhill and the RoDs are still in despair. And the overall plot is about him and the "cause" for the world to fall in Despair. "aka" the Despair Book that here again^^. "Brainwashes" people if they read it into despair. So yeah. Than we have DR Kirigiri is about her becoming the Ultimate Detektiv along a other character and a oragnisation that played no major role for DR overall. Than we have DanganRonpa2 Spin-off Chiaki. DanganRonpa Zero ofcs. DanganRonpa2 Nagito. KillerKiller Some of them really do a good job giving us more fleshed out characters +worldbuilding others are just crazy and pure madness. @hp4ver Someone on Tumblr found out that in the backround of the Trailes and some pictures from Famitsu there are Kirigiri and Asahina in the backround. So there is that and with Naegi reopening the school we have most likely the big setup for V3. Allow me to disagree. I´m not talking about their stories in general, but the details they give. For example, some Ultimates abilities are described in those (like Kirigir´s and Hagakure´s, even Naegi´s). There are also some hints, like in DRZero that implies that a bigger problem was happening under the Kibougamine School, something that doesn´t necessarily need to be related to the hope/despair theme. I would go more into it, but then I would fall into theorizing. Those stories, doesn´t matter who wrote them, as long as they were guided by Kodaka, give important information about something we might probably don´t know yet. (also, expanding the DR universe would bring them more income...). Sorry to butt-in the answer you gave to the other person, but I thought that school of V3 was directly related to this story? I saw daisies inside in one of the trailers, and this series had daisies all over it (exaggerating, I know). EDIT: Ah, forgot to add. I wouldn't dismiss the stories of the spin offs. Rereading them will give you the reason of why. |
Dreams_of_NekoOct 1, 2016 9:47 PM
| I liked this ending a lot but that's not what is supposed to happen, Danganronpa is supposed to be a story about the balance between hope and despair, but despair was nowhere to be seen here. Bringing kirigiri back was too much |
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| Great episode, 10/10. Made watching all 3 anime worth it since all my favorite characters died (especially Sayaka, Seiko, Chiaki, Good Chisa, and Sakura), it was nice to know their deaths weren't for nothing. Watching the 2 team kick ass was pretty epic. I'm surprised how composed they were though, knowing what they did. Wondering if Izuru did something to make them feel less guilty..for basically destroying the world. I had a feeling Kyoko was going to leave, even though I didn't see the medicine bottle. Her death just made 0% sense, just like I said. Eat that, everyone who was calling it bullshit. :P I'm glad she lived though, she is the best cold as ice yet caring detective ever. |
Raven_WingzOct 1, 2016 6:08 PM
| conclusion totally bad like ZTD third sequel VN utterlly disatisfy droping plot problem my only hope for good vn adaptation or sequel now is steins gate 0 4/10 overall 7/10 |
hp4ver said: What are the links? That's new to me. Don't mind to show us some pictures or backgrounds of the trailers from Tumblr and Famitsu? How did you find out that with Naegi reopening the school will be "more likely" the big setup for V3? Do you mean that Hope's Peak Academy will be more likely converted to Gifted Inmates Academy many months later after Naegi reopens the school at the end of DR3? According to Gematsu, the V3 new school is called the "Gifted Inmates Academy." V3's setting and characters have completely changed from the previous entries DR1 & DR2. Here is the youtube video In the description of it is the Amazon link to the Special Edition kit. One of the images shown is the one that has Asahina and Kirigiri in it. But their participation is currently heavily discussed. Maybe you are right about the setting. The academy drawing in the name is a completely different building from the Kibougamine one. Looks like a common school. The things that made me think it was Kibougamine was the daisies inside and the copper dragon statue. In the ending of Kibou, Hagakure has a (new) crystal ball with a dragon on it. But who knows. And just because there are new setting and characters, doesn't mean they aren't connected to the rest of the franchise. |
| I don't get why people are upset about a happy ending. This was called hope arc for a reason. It would feel really underwhelming if they would leave us with another cliffhanger again just so we can wait for years again to see the conclusion. Seriously, I couldn't stand another time monokuma shows up and starts a killing game. Though I guess I can see why some people didn't like Kirigiri's and class 77th's return. I called it weeks ago, so nothing surprising here. A cure existed and she knew she was going to die, so obviously she took it, duh. And Izuru is the ultimate everything, of course he's able to save all the people who "died" in the simulation. I'm kinda tired of bittersweet endings, so I take this one with gratitude. After all their suffering I think they deserve a happy ending. Looking forward to V3, though! |
| >I was supposed to feel something when Class 77 was trying to stop Mitarai I'm sorry Kodaka, but I fucking can't when THEY NEVER INTERACTED BEFORE LIKE HOLY SHIT ONLY MIKAN AND IMPOSTER KNEW HIM. Honestly my headcanon for DR3 ended up being better than the trash we bloody got. What was the point of the DR3 characters if they were stepping stones for the fucking DR1 and DR2 characters? Why bother playing DR2 now that you know they're all fine The ending answered nothing, it was just bullshit pandering, plain and simple. |
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| I see, you can tell that the characters have grown (in the missing period of Danganronpa 2) Esp. with Sonia and Hiyoko. I'm glad they're all alive tho! Chisa and Juuzou ended up being the most tragic deaths. Ibuki and Mahiru's teamwork tho. Badass liked Mahiru there. Tbh I never liked Mitarai but I can see why he blames himself so much. Carrying a huge weight of guilt. The despair remnants playing anti-hero cards... Even though it's not really their fault, that would do for their atonement. And is it just me or Kazuichi x Sonia ended up being closer? I thought we were going with Gundam x Sonia. I don't particularly care about both. Tbh I prefer Chiaki's hope over Naegi's. KIRIGIRI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHES ALIVE Thank you Seiko and Mikan (even tho you both are part of the mess too. tho good people at heart) Asahina made it alive too! Pretty good ending. The story had its ups and down. It did some things really well, but sometimes it got too over-the-top for my taste. But it really shone where it mattered. 8/10 |
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4Dissinity said: TragicRomance said: I see, you can tell that the characters have grown (in the missing period of Danganronpa 2) Esp. with Sonia and Hiyoko. I'm glad they're all alive tho! Chisa and Juuzou ended up being the most tragic deaths. Agreed, though I find Seiko's just as tragic. TragicRomance said: Asahina made it alive too! I didn't see it as it ever hinting that she would die. Mitarai brainwashed the soldiers to stop them at all costs from ruining what he was about to do. Not to necessarily kill them unless they have to. Asahina was pretty much stopped and dealt with after being shot and had went unconscious from her wound, so they kept going with stopping the others. I was saying it in a more. general way? Tho ye considering last episode, she was bound to make it alive. And I agree about Seiko's death being tragic. Come to think of it, Ruruka and Izayoi's are not any less tragic either. |
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HyperL said: Tokuiten said: This felt more like a bad episode of Dragon Ball Z/Super... Also how does Another Episode fit into this? Why exactly does Episode 7 exist? When did Junko have time to meet the warriors of hope? I'm not even questioning why they are alive again, because appearently anyone can come back from the dead at anytime... Danganronpa 3 was a mistake. Someone didn't watch the credits of Another Episode till the end...They were all shown alive and fine right there... When Junko met the Warriors the Apocalypse was already on going...So it was not much after the end of Zetsubou-hen... The problem with Junko is that she was sheltered as soon as the tragedy started, yet she still had time to prevent the kids from suicide, take them under her wing and manipulate them etc. I think they should have at least been mentioned once in despair arc. |
4Dissinity said: TragicRomance said: I was saying it in a more. general way? Tho ye considering last episode, she was bound to make it alive. And I agree about Seiko's death being tragic. Come to think of it, Ruruka and Izayoi's are not any less tragic either. Oh I see. Izayoi's and especially Ruruka's decisions and deaths are very complex, so when you think about it, I can see that as well. I also forgot about Kizakura's sacrifice. That was unfortunate (even more unfortunate to the people that believed Kirigiri died before since that meant that he died in vain, in a way). And if we're not only talking about the Future side, we can't forget about dear Chiaki on the Despair side, which was too much for me even when I never really cared about Chiaki in general tbh. Agreed. Now that I think, there were more tragic deaths than I thought there were. Kizakura fulfilling his promise to Jin, Izayoi loving Ruruk despite getting his NG code broke by her, Ruruka being unable to trust anyone and committing suicide. Sacrifices. And ye, I didn't find Chiaki particularly charming for most part but her death was beyond painful and made me appreciate her a lot. She got an unbreakable will for sure and thats admirable. |
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| Pretty satisfied with the ending. It was so good to see all the remnants of despair again. I always preferred them over the DR1 cast. |
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4Dissinity said: TragicRomance said: Agreed. Now that I think, there were more tragic deaths than I thought there were. Kizakura fulfilling his promise to Jin, Izayoi loving Ruruk despite getting his NG code broke by her, Ruruka being unable to trust anyone and committing suicide. Sacrifices. And ye, I didn't find Chiaki particularly charming for most part but her death was beyond painful and made me appreciate her a lot. She got an unbreakable will for sure and thats admirable. Completely agreed. I'm not the type of person who has a better view towards a character I never cared for or even liked just because of the way they died, but this anime still successfully made me feel sorry for them, as the deaths and certain situations they are in are still tragic or unfortunate. Mhmm. Also, Izayoi and Ruruka are the most tragic couple imo. Izayoi continuing to love her despite dying by her hand, and Ruruka wanting to trust him but ending up choosing her own life over him. I really liked that despair-ish feeling the two of them gave. I still kinda like this couple despite it involving a betrayal and trust issues. I feel like if Ruruka gets a 2nd chance in the afterlife, she MIGHT be able to treasure their relationship this time. |
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TragicRomance said: 4Dissinity said: Completely agreed. I'm not the type of person who has a better view towards a character I never cared for or even liked just because of the way they died, but this anime still successfully made me feel sorry for them, as the deaths and certain situations they are in are still tragic or unfortunate. Mhmm. Also, Izayoi and Ruruka are the most tragic couple imo. Izayoi continuing to love her despite dying by her hand, and Ruruka wanting to trust him but ending up choosing her own life over him. I really liked that despair-ish feeling the two of them gave. I still kinda like this couple despite it involving a betrayal and trust issues. I feel like if Ruruka gets a 2nd chance in the afterlife, she MIGHT be able to treasure their relationship this time. Ah, someone who likes Ruruka and Izayoi as a couple. I also loved them as a couple. I'm not one who really cared much about Izayoi since he was rather lacking imo, nor am I one who really likes Ruruka due to how she treated Seiko (even though I find it complex and actually understandable why she treated her that way since it's all a huge misunderstanding thanks to Komaeda's silly self, and why she cares so much when it comes to disliking someone she knows that doesn't eat her sweets, despite how silly it does sound. It's just Seiko's just so sweet and shy like Mitarai, in a way, that I really didn't like her being treated that way at all. lol), Ruruka unfortunately got incredibly afraid that Izayoi would eventually betray her sooner or later, and she would rather have him hate her than for her to hate him since she loved him that much. I know that she killed the closest person she had and it's clearly wrong to do so, but the reason why she did it is so touching, and rather understandable given the type of game they are in, possibly anything could happen, even when it comes to someone you hold so dear and trust so much. I can also relate to the both of them being so mistrusting towards people in general, really. |
AmyTwoOct 2, 2016 10:45 AM
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