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| Ahahaha, as soon as I start liking a character they die. RIP. I guess I'll never be a SHSL Detective like Kirigiri because I didn't figure half of the stuff out with Ruruka and Izayoi. His NG code was also very unfair because let's say there was a standstill for a day or two, he'd literally be out of it without eating anything?? I guess part of that was to make sure that someone was moving the action along (not necessarily the "traitor"). We now know that Ruruka killed Izayoi (probably accidentally) because she was trying to mind control him with her sweets to get him to not open up the secret exit. Tbh, Ruruka could have probably just ASKED the dude to not do it or show him the NG code and he would have listened. I mean, they have been pretty inseparable for years now. Even IF he wanted to leave her a little bit/didn't really like her that much, I don't think he wanted his supplier of drug candies to be gone. Still, I feel super bad for him because of this and the fact that we never really got to see much of his character in the backstory episode. So we know Ruruka is the attacker, but that doesn't mean she's the Mastermind. I don't think someone of her caliber can pull off a Mastermind routine. I mean, heck, she couldn't even properly clean up Izayoi's body after she disposed of him. I still think the Mastermind is Mitarai because of how close he is to Junko in the Despair Arc and the fact that she basically took him under her wing (after seeing his brainwashing anime). It wouldn't suprise me if he's brainwashing everyone in the building with some kind of subliminal anime messages. It also REALLY makes me suspicious that he was never in the second game at all, not even mentioned. We had Twogami as a Togami imposter instead of Twogami as Mitarai. Makes me way too suspicious. Also, I really don't think Monaca is the Mastermind since she told us last episode she was turned off from Despair by Komaeda. I think she's just there to spice things up. She already messed everything up in UDG, so I'm giving her a pass for this season. But yeah, if it's NOT Mitarai I'll be very surprised. Munakata is too straightforward to be the Mastermind. I don't see Juzo doing anything other than blindly following Munakata. The SDR1 cast being the Mastermind totally doesn't make sense either??? I mean there's a slim chance one of them fell into despair, but I really don't see it. So that leaves us with Mitarai as the Mastermind. ((Gekko is a robot, so I can't see her as anything else.)) Also, I wonder if Togami really died??? I mean, I honestly don't see it happening since he's a main part of the series. I can see Yasuhiro dead before him. I guess we'll see next week what happens. Honestly, I have a feeling they're going to pull a "no one actually died!" with the beginning of next week's ep (with reference to the people outside). Anyways, a good episode that kept me on the edge of my seat. GG to Kirigiri for being the MVP and the Fedora guy for sticking in there until the very end. |
| So wait, Monaca is gone now, so who the heck controlling Mecha-Miaya after that? Heck, she even goes Symphogear-mode in this episode! Dammit I knew something will happen to Kizakura when the episode itself started with his flashback out of nowhere.. But hey, at least he died a heroic death! His death is probably the most impactful to me so far, I actually screamed when he went as far as using his left hand to save Kyoko, then I realized he's trying to save the girl that he was promised to protect. That's why he was following Kyoko all this time.. RIP. All characters left are the ones that seem important, except Ruruka, so she will probably be the one to go next.. |
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| Nooo, not Kizakura... fuck you Ruruka! I REALLY hope Mitarai isn't the killer but judging from the latest two episodes of Zetsubou-hen it does seem like he's the traitor. Then again, this is DR so I wouldn't be surprised if the murderer turned out to be somebody else Omoshiroineko said: Don't worry, they're probably going to show Jabberwock in one of the last episodesJabberwock episode never? Fedora's death was emotional and all but I want my DR2boys. I was so hyped when they showed the FF fleet heading towards Hajimeme in ep 6 but I'm really getting blueballed here. |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Skeeturz said: tbh what I got from that was Kirigiri hyped up the secret entrance as the exit just to keep Juzo and Ruruka occupied, i dont know WHY they assume its the exit though, the text just says it's a secret door (actually doesnt it say secret ENTRANCE?) Anyway this was a good episode, Kizakura's death hurt me still, but I expected it. Just once I'd like to show to dedicate flashbacks to a char and NOT have them die, seriously it's so anti climatic. It's like Oh this ep is focused on this future foundation member, guess who's dying next ep LOL Also Ruruka's a messy bitch, but seeing her mess play out is entertaining at least. I used to like her but her actions this episode are seriously dumb. Especially killing Yoi-chan who was best boy. Seriously the dude was in love with you, probably without the sweets. It's dumb. According to Google: 秘密の入り口 : Himitsu no iriguchi (secret entrance) 秘密の出口 : Himitsu no deguchi (secret exit) But Mitarai read this as: 秘密の出入口 : Himitsu no teguchi? Can someone explain to me the last one? I don´t know what that 入 kanji does to the whole name. |
| The more I watch both DR3s, the less I like them. Smh. By the end, I'll probably just ignore their existence and just focus on the games... Kodaka really killed all the new cool characters, only leaving the annoying new ones... I hope Sakakura redeems himself by the end of the anime since they really seem to be pushing him as a (sort of) likeable character. Munakata and Ruruka can go die in a fire though. |
| Saddest death yet. RIP Kizakura |
| THis episode is good I guess . Man I feel so many character dieng and nearly all their deaths are sad which are Seiko,,Tengan and Kizakura are the saddest. Chiza death become of the saddest after I learn more about her in Despair arc which one of the saddest death now. OVerally good still confuse who traitor is my theory is Mitarai or again Chiza being traiotr I wonder how Kodata is going to cover everything up with only four episode left |
DemonDarknightAug 30, 2016 1:45 PM
| Kitamura if i'm not wrong ? that hat guy ? man...i feel bad for him. seriously that bitch. again, she makes me mad in the beginning but at the end she makes me feel bad for her. well, if her NG code was like that, i think it's obvious that she will do something like that. "must not let anyone escape" that NG code makes her looks innocent to me now...seriously... and dat after credit scene tho...the building got destroyed ? what the hell is happenening ?! who is the real culprit ?! looking foward to the next episode. |
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| I find Juzo and Munakata's presence entertaining because they create conflict and are mostly a misguided asshole just making the worst decision possible and a total extremist with somewhat good intentions. Ruruka is just a bitch though and killed a partner that has been with her for a long time for no reason. If Juzo kills her by opening the door and leaving, he will redeem himself for everything bad he did (nor like he needs to anyway, since I already like him). Anyway, better episode than the last two from a week ago, hoping despair is also great this week. |
| Kirigiri's NG code is<<solve the mystery>> imo |
4Dissinity said: SH4kun said: I find Juzo and Munakata's presence entertaining because they create conflict and are mostly a misguided asshole just making the worst decision possible and a total extremist with somewhat good intentions. Ruruka is just a bitch though and killed a partner that has been with her for a long time for no reason. If Juzo kills her by opening the door and leaving, he will redeem himself for everything bad he did (nor like he needs to anyway, since I already like him). No reason? She had to follow her NG code or whatever you call it, else she will die. As Kirigiri had assumed, her partner likely had the intentions of leaving himself once he found the exit. Clearly Ruruka didn't want that, else she will die, which she doesn't want, of course. So, you literally kill your childhood friend (that was your lover at the time) instead of trying to reason with him? Why didn't she just tell him her NG code and he himself told her as well? You know, trusting the person you're supposedly in love with instead of outright killing and then acting all scared and unrelated to his killing instead of explaining the situation? Not disagreeing that she's a bitch, but she's one that has legitimate reasons, imo, especially if Munataka and Juzo, whoa re both cunts to me, gets a pass as well for one just being misguided and the other having somewhat good intentions all around. Juzo is trying to kill others because he believes in Munakata and the later because of his extremist ideas of rebuilding a world without despair, while Ruruka is just a selfish brat that is killing only to keep herself alive There is just no excuse for her. |
GoldenSaltPillarAug 30, 2016 5:45 PM
| I don't have any theories this episode. But, I do hope next one we see why Ruruka killed Yoi |
That's the Despair arc. |
| Too many things are pointing to Aoi being the mastermind and just pls no. Of course, the mastermind and attacker don't have to be the same person (right?), so the only other person I think it could be is Hagakure, and someone else like Ryota is the attacker. At this point the mastermind is most likely one of the survivors (I really don't want it to be the case, but that's the only way the reveal will have enough impact) and Aoi is clearly the most logical candidate for that. I guess I just have to have hope, that all the 78's survive again/haven't turned into despairs. But I fear this hope will most likely being turning into despair :( |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
| Juzo would move up (a little) in the likable list if he ended up killing Ruruka. even a death as soft as by NG Code. Munakata is still #1 fuckface with Ruruka being #2 |
| I loved that episode. I thought it was very interesting. How long has the war been going on in the Danganronpa universe. I always figured it was like a year, but this episode made it seem like it was going on for many years. Otherwise, I thought the death was well done in this episode. I am curious though what the masterminds game plan is here? What are they really trying to do? |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Why Naegi doesn't investigate stuffs? I guess having two detective is too much. |
| So what happen to the Remnant of Despair? Are we going to get there next week? LOL! Mecha Gekkougahara saves the day. |
ZapredonAug 30, 2016 11:00 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Phendrus said: 4) If Yasuhiro is the attacker, why did he spend hours dodging bullets from a Despair helicopter without an audience? Also, he's been outside from the outset, he has no bracelet, and he's not smart enough to pull this off. 5) Hina... I can't really see her doing this, but I couldn't see Sayaka attempting murder in DR1, either. Plus, assuming Makoto isn't the attacker, Kyousuke must have been looking at her... or Miaya, possibly. Maybe she succumbed to despair after the Warriors of Hope killed her brother? It could be that she blames the Future Foundation for not saving him. I don't want to believe it, but I'm not ruling out the possibility. 6) Ryota: Seems too obvious, but I'm not ruling him out. 7) Juzo: At this point, I'm beginning to suspect him. As Kizakura pointed out, he's been "attempting" to kill people since the game began, but he's been completely incompetent at it. It could be that he's not trying to kill the waking people at all: he's just putting on a show until the timer drops to zero, making people think he's just Kyousuke's puppet. Still doesn't explain why Kyousuke was calling someone in the Makoto/Hina/Mechagahara group "despair," though... Anyway, my guesses are either Hina, Ryota, or Juzo. Leaning towards Hina or Juzo. If Hagakure is the killer, he's likely not as dumb as he seems. While it's unlikely he's the killer, he could also be the mastermind. I can picture him showing an evil side, but it's still kinda unlikely. His personallity, especially in dr1 and Ultra Despair Hagakure seems just too genuine. I Doubt Hina even more. Her personallity is even more clear than Hagakure, she's a lot closer to Makoto and Kyoko. Also, it seems unlikely that she's influenced after Ultra Despair Girls. There's simply not enought time. Ryota is just very suspisious, we know he helped Junko with his brainwashing Anime (against his will). He probably feels very guilty about that, unless he's a member of ultimate despair. After all, why's he the only one aside from Chiaki who hasn't become a ultimate despair? Adding some more to Juzo, he's been almost anywhere in the group. He was attacking Kyoko, then fighting Miaya, then opposing Hina and Makoto. Most other characters kinda stay in their groups, but Juzo doesn't even seem to try and find Munakata again. This could also explain why Munakata fell into despair. If, after Chisa's death, his only other friend turned out to be the enemy, he'd go nuts. Which he did. On that note, I'm kinda unsure what's going the happen to Munakata. He seems to have become despair himself, trying to kill what he thinks is a danger to hope (Makoto). But something feels off, somehow. We do have another option, the extra player (Maybe the 13th branch head). It's just that if it is an extra member, it can't be just a random dude. That'd be a pretty lame excuse for a twist. Maybe it's Makoto and Komaru's father or mother? That'd be a pretty big blow of despair for our main character. (I doubt it's this, but it's a fun idea) |
SirofcoffeeAug 30, 2016 9:49 PM
| Too much salt can ruin even the best of meals. |
Dreams_of_Neko said: According to Google: 秘密の入り口 : Himitsu no iriguchi (secret entrance) 秘密の出口 : Himitsu no deguchi (secret exit) But Mitarai read this as: 秘密の出入口 : Himitsu no teguchi? Can someone explain to me the last one? I don´t know what that 入 kanji does to the whole name. It means it can be both considered an entrance and an exit. This sort of sign is most often found at the entrance/exit of a parking lot. Since there's not really an appropriate word in English, it would be more simple to translate it as "secret door" in this case. |
DampVamp69 said: Years seems to suggest more then two. guess I am just picky.Suzune-chan said: I loved that episode. I thought it was very interesting. How long has the war been going on in the Danganronpa universe. I always figured it was like a year, but this episode made it seem like it was going on for many years. It has been like two years since the Tragedy started... Or well, two years since it went worldwide. So by "years ago", I guess it only meant two years. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Nice episode as always. They found the door huh... |
| *Why did both ryota and kirigiri run in the corridor?* |
We did this every day that summer. There wasn’t a day we missed.  "I love you, air conditioner." |
| Danganronpa 3 Future Arc is Persona 4 Arena Ultimax Confirmed Underwater Building Theory Confirmed wow. I thought they were transported to Jabberwock Island but they actually used the Funhouse logic in Danganronpa 2 just wow. Kizakura burns Juzo to the point that he needs 999 burn heals was probably the funniest part. Juzo does have a long history of screw-up from Hajime turning into Izuru to the disappearance of a lot of faculty and staff which were clearly killed by the Despair Sisters to his screw-up with apprehending Ted Chikatilo. |
DarkwindJRAug 31, 2016 3:48 AM
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| This was soooooooooo good. Before watching this one I thought "wow what a cool system is the 'forbidden action' thing, shame it is not used that much" and boom, an entire scene of Kirigiri-showdown that discovers a solid truth where forbidden actions are highly involved. Thank you Danganronpa for these moments. So in the end, I guess my Munakata-traitor theory was wrong after all. Even though he's hostile, he seems to truly believe in Future Foundation... I still don't agree with his line of thought, but at least a part of me now isn't anymore accusing him of anything. Just a part though, lol. A shame Kizakura had to die especially by the hands of that bitch Ruruka, he really cared for Kirigiri. It was also weird how Juzo was affected by that sweet-thingy Ruruka gave him, he was subjugated at first and then suddenly turned back to his normal self after removing the spear from his shoulder, I'm expecting he was tricking her or something. Given all these things, who is left that can be the real traitor/attacker? If Munakata really isn't, we can also exclude Kirigiri for obvious reasons (she's a detective after all, they can be cold and unscrupulous but they're never the bad guys) and all the survivors of the first game involved in this one too (Makoto, Asahina... does Yasuihiro really counts anything?). Juzo probably isn't the traitor too, he only follows Munakata so if he's hostile, then the Boxer will be hostile too. Ruruka wanted to kill everyone in that moment because of her forbidden action, but I don't think she's the attacker. The only one left is... Ryota Mitarai. We know from Zetsubou-hen he had contacts with Junko Enoshima and most likely he worked for her to spread the Despair-Sisters message through his animes. At this point in time he's the only one left that can be the traitor/attacker we all seek. He even gets to go around with Kirigiri following her everywhere she goes... this was an order by Tengan if I recall correctly. If the old man knew about the traitor, and if Ryota really is him, he probably sent him with the most important women in the entire building because he knew that if Kirigiri ended up dying, he would be the prime suspect and, thus, the attacker would be defeated. Zetsubou-hen will tell us more about Ryota, we just have to wait. |
| Rurucunt is unredeemable at this point. She even killed her lover. Actually I would argue about Izayoi being her lover. We all saw how Ruruka bewitches those who consume her sweets. I bet she made him addicted so she could make him her little bitch. |
▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ Just as humans have a prior right to existence over dogs by virtue of being more highly evolved and having a superior consciousness, so women have a prior right to existence over men. The elimination of any male is, therefore, a righteous and good act, an act highly beneficial to women as well as an act of mercy. |
| aaaahh can't wait for the next episode...! |
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nagitokomaeda_ said: Am I the only one suspecting Asahina? When Munakata found her and Naegi he said "Die despair" and with his sword we saw the reflection of both Asahina and Naegi, so maybe they want us to think that he was talking to Naegi but he was actually talking to Asahina. Also, when Naegi finished talking with his sister Asahina said something like "you are a good brother..." and Naegi said "Asahina..." and they got interrumpted by Gekkogahara. He was probably going to say something about Asahina's brother, so I think they will talk about that later. I'm reading this one a lot, and I honestly think this is way too random. First of all, I wouldn't take anything Munakata says at face value, because he's gone crazy by now. Plus, Asahina doesn't strike me as a character who has the wits to pull this off. Overall, it would be a very cheap and underwhelming development on the situation. |
| Too bad Ruruka is a bitch... Because she has a nice ass... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| Ruruka is a complete cunt but she had the most unfair NG Code of all. "Nobody can leave"? Are you serious?! And with that, I have some questions regarding Izayoi and Ruruka's NG Codes because I desperately need clarity. So what I am to understand is that because of her NG Code of "Someone Leaving the Building" Ruruka fed Izayoi mind-controlling sweets to prevent him from leaving, thus inadvertently killing him in the process because his counteracting NG Code was "Eating something", correct? This is the general assumption? Then did Izayoi not tell Ruruka what his NG Code was? I mean, why wouldn't he? Surely he trusts her. Which would mean if he did tell her then she fed him regardless knowing it would kill him? And likewise, he tried to exit knowing it would kill Ruruka? The only way this makes sense is if one of three things happened. 1. Neither explained their NG Code because they thought nothing of it. 2. Ruruka didn't explain her NG Code because of she didn't trust him. 3. At least Ruruka knew of Izayoi's NG Code and he has been periodically mind-controlled by Ruruka his whole life without knowing it and the drug in the sweet has a short-term effect. Meaning, after the Killing Game began and he stopped eating the effect gradually wore off and he tried to leave so she fed him to stop him. I did think it was a bit strange that he left Ruruka by herself in that room with Seiko trying to kill her. Did I miss something because this whole situation is genuinely curious. |
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| fuck the cool dude is dead |
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| aw man rip Kizakura you were starting to get interesting, thought it was cool after last week realizing how long hes been keeping his hand in his pocket Looks like there's a new local ruiner |
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 She ends up present for a lot of decisive situations.... Oh yeah, almost everyone thinks of Ruruka as the scum of humanity, but pretty sure Kodaka is gonna pull a sob story to turn her in the best girl or something. And Togami will escape the destruction by hiding under a dumpster. Feel free to shoot me, just had to take this all out of my mind. Gonna finish rewatching the English subs before making any serious analysis. |
| Don't know how Ruruka is going to find a way to redeem herself, but I'd have a hard time believing she did not intentionally kill Izayoi. I mean, she figured Seiko's ridiculous NG code out of nowhere, so it's very unlikely she wouldn't do the same with Izayoi's forbidden action. |
| @Dreams_of_Neko Wow, nice finding! LOL Poor woman XD About Ruruka and Izayoi, it is really strange that they didn't talked about their NG Codes to each other. I mean, they were all about "I trust only you" at the beginning. I think it would be either option 2 or 3 presented by @MoonStar9...I'm inclined to think it was something along the line of 3 :S |
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| Bringing discussion from the episode 7 topic so we can use the details we are given in this episode. kacaj said: Dreams_of_Neko said: By the way, where was Gekkogahara killed? I was watching the Spanish sub and realized that some parts are not correctly translated, currently checking the English subs so to not misinterpret some statements. Also, should we continue discussing the theories in the episode 8 thread? So we won´t spoil it in here. That is, if you are still interested in debating. I don´t think that we even have a chance in guessing the place of Gekkogahara´s death. As far as I can remember the only clue is the photo of her death body, and the fact that the Future Foundation was the one who found her body. In short the only thing we know about the venue, that the Future Foundation can reach it. Maybe you have some guesses, but I can´t think of a place which is more probable than the others. Howewer regarding Gekkogahara´s death we have another important evidence which we more or less know. It´s the time of her body´s discovery. After Byakuya speaks with Naegi his assistant says, that they just recently received a report about Miaya Gekkogahara being dead. If she was killed before the game, as many pressume, then discovering her body took too much time. According to what we know she may have been killed even after the beginning of the game. So we can´t be even sure that she was murdered before the killing game began. Somehow I feel it more likely that Miaya Gekkogahara came in contact with Monaca first and not the other way around. Monaca doesn´t seemed to be particularly interested in Future Foundation. There´s just soo much we don´t know, and this makes it damn hard to get a clear picture of the happenings. Yep, I´m still interested if you don´t mind. From now on we can write in the episode 8 thread, so I´ll look for your reply there. Btw Did you find anything awfully translated, or at least someplace big difference between the spanish and english subs? Eh...some things in the Spanish subs were wrong, like Monaka saying Naegi turned her into a woman when in reality she said it was Komaeda. After that, I had to recheck all the episodes in English subs. Ah, but the first episode was the only one that was accurately translated. About Gekkogahara. I am very sure that she at least was already replaced by Monaka when the game started. In episode 2, shortly after Bandai dies, Munakata asks everyone to point out the culprit, and Kizakura points at Gekkogahara. He was a very sharp guy so he definitely noticed she was a fake. But wait, are you implying the robot is from Gekkogahara and not from Monaka? I know it was said she was shy and the robot transformed and fought Munakata, but I always thought that robot was from Monaka. Her company made robots, just see all those Monokumas around her. Someone pointed out the way she was killed was the same as the guards in the first episode (before everyone got gassed). For me, it hints Monaka used the robot to replace Gekkogahara. Somewhat unrelated but, is there a meaning for Monomi having a crescent moon earclip instead of a ribbon like in DR2? pandora18 said: It means it can be both considered an entrance and an exit. This sort of sign is most often found at the entrance/exit of a parking lot. Since there's not really an appropriate word in English, it would be more simple to translate it as "secret door" in this case. Ah, thank you very much! Mmm, yeah, the sign is too vague to be considered an exit of the place, so maybe Ruruka killed Izayoi in vain after all. Poor Yoi-chan. Manecleis said: Don't know how Ruruka is going to find a way to redeem herself, but I'd have a hard time believing she did not intentionally kill Izayoi. I mean, she figured Seiko's ridiculous NG code out of nowhere, so it's very unlikely she wouldn't do the same with Izayoi's forbidden action. You are right, if her sweets had all a mind controling drug, she would have found it strange since the first time Izayoi said "no". Actually, we were shown she did in two ocassions. So the question is, how did she manage to put a sweet in Izayoi´s mouth? After getting out of the conference room, it looks like they inmediately went to the library and spent most of their time in there. Did they know the whole time about that door? But then why the surprise in Izayoi´s face when the bookcase fell? Or was it because that sign wasn´t there before? taynis said: @Dreams_of_Neko Wow, nice finding! LOL Poor woman XD About Ruruka and Izayoi, it is really strange that they didn't talked about their NG Codes to each other. I mean, they were all about "I trust only you" at the beginning. I think it would be either option 2 or 3 presented by @MoonStar9...I'm inclined to think it was something along the line of 3 :S Checked the episode in which she faints. Chisa was talking with Kizakura when she called in panic, when Chisa turns around, Kizakura "escaped". Seems like he actually went to check on her (of course without anyone noticing) Aaaand, noticed at the same time that Kizakura "suggested" that if the students caused problems, they could both end at the Reserve Course, and not too long after that Komaeda happened. Kizakura was the homeroom teacher of that class when they took Chisa as a support. He also "joked" in another moment about Komaeda traveling around the world and we saw what happened. Not sure if there was something especial about that class (even before Junko came to the school), but i´m pretty sure Kizakura knew a lot of what was happening, not only about those kids, but also during this last killing game. After this episode, all the previous ones start to make sense when it comes to his comments and actions. |
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