| Why they have to be spoken? English: Know Japanese: Know (ASL) American Sign Language: Know Braille for the blind: Know (JSL) Japanese Sign Language: Learning |
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| > Serbian, Native language, my parrents are from Serbia. > Dutch Native language, > English I learn new words everyday, I began to understand English at maybe 10 years old? I played a lot of video games. Overall I think I'm pretty good at it, I can be pretty shy when speaking English, but I tend to overthink it, it's not really bad. For Japanese I'm a complete newbie, and currently not focused on learning this. I'm drawing mostly around the day and don't really feel like learning too much. I'd guess I know around 3% of the Hiragana, yeah very fantastic. When I know enough Japanese that I can understand it, I'm gonna read up on Korean probably, later on probably Latin or Italian, and eventually Hebrew. I started learning Japanese last year, so until I arrive with the Hebrew thing, We'll be 5 years further in the future most likely. |
| English: Native Language. Japanese: Very weak, still in progress. I learned Hiragana and Katakana back in 2009, and went several years before learning any more. Like with any language, constantly stopping/taking breaks are what slows me down, but I swear that if there's any language out there that I'm going to develop a decent amount of fluency in, it's Japanese. Esperanto: Quite weak, still in progress. Dragonian: A language I invented a few years ago, and is still a work in progress, due to its current limited vocabulary. |
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| english my spelling just sucks. i took 2 years of german i just sucked at it and didnt retain much of it. |
| English - native Weeb - native meme - native |
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| English French ( Native ) And a bit of Korean, i needed it since i lived there for 5months. |
| Still just English. I constantly forget words of what I learn in other languages. |
| Just English really. Father is German and regrets not teaching me and my brothers when we where younger. Watched too much anime in Japaneses so I can get a jist of a slow conversations, however I can even do this with German so it's kinda just reading in to context, not really knowing the language. Also like a lot of teens (Becoming a long time ago slowly), I taught myself to cuss it like 10 languages :D |
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| Quite literate in English since it's my primary language now. I can also read and speak in Russian. I can read Ukranian and speak it somewhat, though my vocabulary is quite weak. I would like to learn Japanese since I love Japan, but isn't Japanese literacy incredibly difficult to learn for non-native speakers? |
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| French - both my mother and father are from Tunisia when it still was a French protectorate, i understand and speak french but i'm not able to write it. Italian - native language English - i totally suck at speaking in english and i'm not that good at writing it either. |
Johnnyd3rpFeb 9, 2017 6:03 AM
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| I never thought that I can have discussions about language here... Noboru said: Is Greenlandic much different from Danish? For me, I would be rather interested in Icelandic for its morphological Similarity (also 4 Cases + 3 Genders) and Old Norse, concerning the Northern Germanic Languages. Yes, Greenlandic is different from Danish: Unlike the Faroe/Färöer/Føroyar/Færøerne language, it is an Eskimo-language thus connected with the native american languages. My uncle learns Icelandic and it seems to be very interesting as there really are similarities and also old forms, witch vanished in many germanic languages. No, I am referring to roots as they are characteristic for semitic languages. But yes, the systems have similarities. I mean everything articulated pharyngeal or pharyngealised, witch are namely ع,ص,ض,ط,ظ and ح. All other letters are (for me) simple and normal. Seiya said: Dragonian: A language I invented a few years ago, and is still a work in progress, due to its current limited vocabulary. Yeah! Conlangs are the best! I'm also currently doing one; but what I love the most is inventing scripts... If you need one, please ask me! |
| Estonian and English - quite good Russian, German and Chinese - had to learn at school but I've forgotten most of it Korean and Japanese - been learning by myself so not that good but can understand some of it. Speaking is quite bad |
| English (fluent) Italian (fluent) Romanian (native language) French (fluent) Japanese (learning) If I ever get to a level of Japanese that I find acceptable, I might want to get into Korean, Mandarin, Russian and then maybe German? I'm not sure, but I do want to learn a lot of languages. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Finnish - Native language German - Native language English - Fluent Swedish - Decent, have to learn it at school Russian - Studied for 2 years but I'm really bad at it French - Studied for 1 year back in 5th grade, pretty much forgotten everything |
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zeruon said: I never thought that I can have discussions about language here... Noboru said: Is Greenlandic much different from Danish? For me, I would be rather interested in Icelandic for its morphological Similarity (also 4 Cases + 3 Genders) and Old Norse, concerning the Northern Germanic Languages. Yes, Greenlandic is different from Danish: Unlike the Faroe/Färöer/Føroyar/Færøerne language, it is an Eskimo-language thus connected with the native american languages. My uncle learns Icelandic and it seems to be very interesting as there really are similarities and also old forms, witch vanished in many germanic languages. No, I am referring to roots as they are characteristic for semitic languages. But yes, the systems have similarities. I mean everything articulated pharyngeal or pharyngealised, witch are namely ع,ص,ض,ط,ظ and ح. All other letters are (for me) simple and normal. Seiya said: Dragonian: A language I invented a few years ago, and is still a work in progress, due to its current limited vocabulary. Yeah! Conlangs are the best! I'm also currently doing one; but what I love the most is inventing scripts... If you need one, please ask me! I also love inventing scripts! I have a "Dragonian Script" for my Dragonian language. How many scripts have you created? |
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| @Seiya: I have one script, made for being easy to write with a pen for my artificial language jjöitneiming, witch also has an own system for numbers and calculating. Then there is one script only made to write the german language, but as an abugida. And then mostly experiments of witch I don't remember all completely: One, witch is supposed to look like flowers, written from bottom to top, one witch is also more abugida, but written top-down and has a simple structure of how letters look like, one witch was my first one and is so cumbersome, that it was the main reason for creating the script mentioned first... And also some failed ones, witch just didn't work well. |
| Dutch - Native language, but a little rusty since I don't use it that much anymore after I came to live in Sweden. English - Write fluently, speak it pretty well (fluently on a casual level). Swedish - Listen & read it pretty well. Speak it well enough to save myself from total embarrassment in a casual conversation. Japanese - Only started on this last month, but can read & write all of the hiragana and katakana character sets, and know a few kanji. |
| Fluent: Bulgarian English Japanese Macedonian (too close to Bulgarian) Studied but fluency questionable: French (5 years) Russian (7 years) Czech (1 year) German (1 term in Japan) Next on my list to learn is Chinese 'cause I'm planning to live there for a while xD |
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| As you all have to... I speak English. Brazilian native, so... Portuguese. Also Spanish, because it's easy for Portuguese speakers to learn, since they are so alike. I'm learning German and Japanese, but I can't mention them as a spoken language. Not yet |
| "I died long ago. This is just a bad dream" |
zeruon said: Welcome to MAL where not everything is possible! ^^I never thought that I can have discussions about language here... Yes, Greenlandic is different from Danish: Unlike the Faroe/Färöer/Føroyar/Færøerne language, it is an Eskimo-language thus connected with the native american languages. Whoop; my Bad. Thought it was a Danish Dialect. Hmm, I wonder how Intelligible they are towards each other. How did you come to wanting to learn Inuit-Languages? Are you planning to go from there to the Languages of the Inca and Maya?My uncle learns Icelandic and it seems to be very interesting as there really are similarities and also old forms, witch vanished in many germanic languages. Yeah, it's quite a Pity how the Germanic Languages and (Languages in General) seem to to loose their Complexity in Grammar over Time. Swedish even gets a new Accent + has made some other progressive Changes. I really hope our own Language will be spared from such Degeneracy. zeruon said: I haven't heard of "Wurzeln" ("Roots") in my German Classes. Only of "Stämme" ("Stems"). However, I know of the Term from looking up the Etymology of Words and often, there are Entries that contain a hypothetical Base-Word, from where a Group of Words is possibly derived from.No, I am referring to roots as they are characteristic for semitic languages. But yes, the systems have similarities. Still, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Are you saying, that from one Root, you could build all Kinds of different Verbs? Like with adding another Prefix in German or being a phrasal Verb in English? I mean everything articulated pharyngeal or pharyngealised, witch are namely ع,ص,ض,ط,ظ and ح. All other letters are (for me) simple and normal. Are those Sounds you make on your Throat like with "x" (Ach-Laut)?Vosgy said: While learning as a young Child or even as a Baby is far more effective, especially in Regard to learning the Pronunciation of a Language, it's still an Advantage to have a native Speaker around if you consider learning a particular Language.Just English really. Father is German and regrets not teaching me and my brothers when we where younger. Watched too much anime in Japaneses so I can get a jist of a slow conversations, however I can even do this with German so it's kinda just reading in to context, not really knowing the language. Getting the Context is still something. How do you think, exotic Languages got recorded before there were any Dictionaries? Because there is something similar to every Language, that you can eventually learn what it means through Immersion. And you could get that Kind of Immersion, if your Father would only talk German to you for a While. Anneli said: That's the Disadvantage of Learning Foreign Languages in School. I had to learn French and Spanish as additional ones, but only English more or less stuck to me, since that's the Language that is omnipresent. Russian, German and Chinese - had to learn at school but I've forgotten most of it How good is your Reading Comprehension in the respective Language? Immahnoob said: You can speak more Languages fluently than I would have expected :oIf I ever get to a level of Japanese that I find acceptable, I might want to get into Korean, Mandarin, Russian and then maybe German? I'm not sure, but I do want to learn a lot of languages. I somehow got that you're a fellow Romanian (Mother-Tongue for me, though my Skills are that of a little Child), who is living in Italy, but where and how did you learn French fluently? I'd also like to learn multiple Languages, but I'll never come to it. Still, it's quite an odd Thought if you were to start rustling in German and pick out all the Flaws that the German Thinkers and Poets have made and make a Book titled "Der Überraschler" (The Over-Rustler). @Enjyu: Ah cool, you also got quite some fluent Languages. I'm only bi-, partially tri-lingual at most when it comes to speaking. The Duration of how long you've learnt a Language in School doesn't matter much if you don't use it. I have the Advantage that I know a bit of Romanian as my Mother Tongue + that Latin-based Words are omnipresent in many Languages, so understanding French and Spanish Texts are still somewhat possible for me. How did you come to learning German in Japan? |
| @Noboru I've learned French because I needed it at school. I don't know, does anyone want to see a 30-40 year old Immahnoob rustle German thinkers and poets? I might just engage in all types of politics and rustle everyone over there. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Well, I also had French (even B1 Diploma) and I've forgotten lots of it.@Noboru I've learned French because I needed it at school. I don't know, does anyone want to see a 30-40 year old Immahnoob rustle German thinkers and poets? I might just engage in all types of politics and rustle everyone over there. Yes please, I'd really like to see you going through the Challenge of whether or not you could rustle the highly intelligent and sophisticated Thinkers. :D Rustling our current Goody-two-Shoes Politicians and their Supporters would make also for a fun Imagination. |
| French - Native language English - B2 Level Spanish - A little bit Japanese - Learning alone And as of tips for Japanese only, if you play Osu! a bit or are well-versed in opening/ending or Jpop, look for romaji lyrics and use this awesome translating tool : RomajiDesu which is my favorite translater from English to Japanese. |
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| English (first language) Greek (I can have a very basic conversation and my dad used to teach my sisters and I random Greek words when we were younger so I can say random words and have a basic conversation) Italian (I'm in my second year of learning, and I know some stuff, but the teacher I have is so awful. I can understand what I'm reading more than when someone speaks to me and when I'm trying to speak). |
| @Noboru You're absolutely right, because I haven't practiced any Russian and French I can understand when spoken to but can barely construct a proper sentence to express a thought that is not basic level. I studied those languages 7 years ago, can you blame me haha About the German, I worked and studied in Japan and I thought instead of wasting time in classes I have no interest in and use of why not learn something useful. I would've originally signed up for Russian but it was clashing with my schedule so the next best choice was German, I got great marks but that's probably because I was the only foreigner in the class and my pronunciation was good, I'm pretty sure my tests results must've been pathetic :D |
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| Is it just me or why most ppl have like 3-4 languages? Knowing English and Filipino is good enough, I can live peacefully on that. |
| OP just wanted to flex a little lol, English is native and I'm pretty decent Spanish but not amazing. Getting there though. |
Immahnoob said: They say Jesus walked on water. People are made out of 79% water. I can walk on people. So I am 79% Jesus. Sourire said: I once fucked an apple pie. |
| @Enjyu: When you learn Foreign Languages in School, you also learn how to learn Languages in General. So it will have its Merits, regardless of whether or not you have "forgotten" a Language or not. Besides, you can pick them up easier when you want to re-learn them. Proper Pronunciation is a good Skill to have when it comes Languages. I have my Strengths more with Reading Comprehension, since that's the one Thing that I've been using my Foreign Language Skills the most. Other People like to converse more and have a better Pronunciation and Hearing. But having a better Pronounciation than Japanese People in Foreign Language shouldn't be too hard :D (On that Topic, there were some good Points raised by @Momono in that Topic) _Ako_ said: Some People have bilingual Families, where neither Parent speaks English as a Mother Tongue. So the Children have to Potential to get at least 2 Languages from Home + English as the global Language fluent, depending on whether or not they use them.Is it just me or why most ppl have like 3-4 languages? Knowing English and Filipino is good enough, I can live peacefully on that. To me, knowing my own native Language and English is good enough as well for me, but it would be still good to know different Languages to be able to read foreign Literature in their Original Language as well or to possibly see another Perspective through your Thinking. |
| @Noboru While it's true most Japanese don't have a satisfying pronunciation, it's not like all of them speak Engrish. There were a lot of students whose German pronunciation was amazing, I also know Japanese who speak perfect French and/or English, even Russian. It's all about how they're taught. Now my teacher's idea of teaching German was a far cry from good, but many schools and uni have foreign teachers and if they can explain how pronunciation works, they've pretty much completed their duty as a teacher since the students would cram everything else in their heads. xD |
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| My main language is English. I know some French, as well. |
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| English is my native tongue, but I know enough Spanish to get by in a Hispanic country. I am also studying Japanese. |
| Filipino - Native. English - Alternate, still not good at all. Japanese - Still practice. |
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| @Enjyu: I do consider it possible that Japanese People can properly pronounce Foreign Languages as well, I just don't find it that probable. But yeah, the Teacher can play a big Role as well. |
| @Noboru We owe that suspicion to how foreign languages are taught. I did teach English to Japanese as a side job and after a while I figured I just need to explain to them simply where to put their tongue to pronounce different sounds and I have to say the results were astonishing. The other thing is, especially younger kids, sure they know how to tell the alphabet but no one teaches them phonics. One of my students knew how to recite letters but when I give him "apple" he would spell rather than read it "a-p-p-l-e" , so we had to start from square 1. So in that respect you're right it's not too probable if the teacher is Japanese or simply can't be bothered to do their job earnestly |
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| @Enjyu: If you taught them the Positions and how to do the actual Sounds, then it's no Wonder they'd improve compared to having them taught how to pronounce English based on Japanese Phonology. That's why it's always best to have a native Person teach the Language. One of my students knew how to recite letters but when I give him "apple" he would spell rather than read it "a-p-p-l-e" , so we had to start from square 1. I don't understand what you're getting at here. If you wanted it to have been read as "a-p-p-l-e", isn't that already called "spelling"? Or did you mean something else like slowly saying the Syllables "app" + "el" /ăpʹ(ə)l/ or "a" + "ppel" /ˈæ.pəl/? |
| @Noboru Just for the record I'm not native xD My bad, English gone wrong :D What I was trying to say is that he knows the names of the letters in the alphabet, his previous teachers had crammed it in his head without using it in words to teach him phonics as well. So when I wrote down "apple" and asked him to read it he could only spell it and couldn't figure out the meaning although he knows the word if spoken to him. The problem was some sub-categories were taught and some not, so before I took over he had studied the alphabet, simple conversation and few grammar points. For me learning a language is to train all sub-categories reading, writing, listening and speaking together. One can excel in any of these and that's perfectly fine, but I don't think it does any good if they are separated (especially for beginners). |
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Enjyu said: Whoops, my Bad xD Just for the record I'm not native xD But your native Tongue is at least distantly related to English :D The English Language was already raped in the Past Ah, so he just didn't know how to read in English, even though he could tell what each Letter is. Well, knowing how to pronounce certain absolutely arbitrary Forms like "rough", "through", "anger", and so on and so forth, is something that lots of People may struggle with. Also, what you say may hold truth for languages still in modern use, but what if you just want to learn Japanese to read sth. like the newest Manga or an untranslated VN in the original Language or Old Greek, Old Hebraic, Sanskrit, Old Norse, Old High German, Old English, Ancient Latin, Classical Arabic, Traditional Chinese, etc. to read some old Texts? You're less likely to meet anyone actually speaking any of those Languages, so knowing how it sounds and how to pronounce it seems a bit pointless when you can understand how the Words are formed and when you can comprehend what is being written. |
| @Noboru My native tongue is Bulgarian, not in the slightest bit related to English, it actually looks like that: Здравей Нобору, това е Български :D Of course you're right. This will be adequate way to learn/teach a modern language, however, even if you want to learn a language only for the sole purpose of reading something you would still want to know vocab, grammar, sentence structure, more or less pronunciation and writing (i.e there is stroke order to kanji). In such case of course speaking and listening are of no use, especially considering that you will never use it for anything else beside reading, but I reckon some things just go hand in hand. |
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@Enjyu: Bulgarian is also an Indo-European Language, so that's why I wrote "distantly related".  Too bad that I can't type it directly + I had to look up different Fonts that use the different "s" + hopefully I got the Rules for using the right "s" right, lol Anyway: you have a Point as well that some Basics are helpful. If you know how to write, it's easier to memorize written Characters after all. But then again, I've learnt how to read first by asking my Parents about what each "Sign" would mean and eventually being able to read the Comics and other Kinds of Books for Children in Kindergarten through "Decoding the Code". ^^ |
| @Noboru For the love of humanity, no wonder you were interested in my 1 term German :D It took me a while to decipher those S's (btw I'm not sure what you mean by "Too bad that I can't type it directly + I had to look up different Fonts that use the different "s" + hopefully I got the Rules for using the right "s" right") But yeah, suppose we all start by asking/learning basic signs, how to write or pronounce A, B etc... As far as Indo-European languages are concerned I wouldn't call all languages under that umbrella "more or less" or "relatively" or "distinctly" or even "at all" related ^^ As we can see from this chart (courtesy from Wikipedia) there is literally 0 connection with Germanic languages  |
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| @Enjyu: Well, I'm just interested in how Foreigners perceive and fare with my native Language^^ It means that I can't type it directly on the Browser so that it'll get displayed as such for others as well. I've found the Rules for the Long S vs the Round S here, though I think they got a Typo with the "ſsh". Can't imagine it having been written to mean "ssh" instead of "sch" for the "sh"-Sound. The Connection is through Indo-European being the hypothetical Ancestor of the different Languages. Just consider вода and "water". They both have the same suspected Source *wódr̥. |
| @Noboru Yeah, I didn't realise your previous post that you're German (although I should have figured it out sooner, if I paid more attention to your writing style xD ) About the language itself, I like the sound of it and would have loved to learn more but I'd need a proper teacher (it also didn't help I had to translate from German to English and Bulgarian at the same time :D ) No doubt there is relation (as a matter of fact between all languages), however in modern language (if we take Slavic languages as an example) it can be connected only to the roots of some words and how they changed over time in different places. And while many have developed similarly (due to whatever circumstances) others have changed significantly, regardless of many factors. It's pretty interesting, languages ^^ |
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| i speak three languages; macedonian, serbian & english i was studying spanish but i failed it lol. personally i'd like to learn either korean or danish but we'll see ^_^ |
| @Enjyu: Wait, I thought that was already obvious by this Point, though I could have also been a Luxembourgian xD The Sound of German Standard German or Austrian/Swiss German or a particular Dialect? Also aren't Books for Language-Learning monolingual or at best bilingual? There is something in common for every Language, but that does not make them related. Languages are related to each other when there are similar Words in each Languages that couldn't have been borrowed - like the Word for "Water". Thus, you can speculate on a common Ancestor with a People with their own ancestral Homelands or "Urheimat" and the "Sky Father" as common Mythology in various Indo-European Cultures. |
| Turkish- Native Language English-Fluent French-Semi fluent I've been studying french for 3 years. My french is not bad but also not very good as well. My high school being a french hight school helps a lot tbh because we see things like math and chemistry in french. I also want to learn german but maybe in uni... |
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| My first language is Portuguese with cabradapeste variation (regionally speaking). I can easily understand spanish, english and italian, mostly written but also spoken. Spanish particularly is very close to portuguese, anybody here without any studies can understand it. |
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