Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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thanks for the answer. it gives me another point of view :) |
| The Ram background story was nice. Her being hornless really made me feel for her. She puts up a strong front but deep down it hurts being mostly powerless, yet still self-tasked with being a strong big sis. I easily like her more than Rem now. Subaru is getting close to the level of the main guy in Cerberus with his stupid decisions. Dude needs to realize he is always going to be weak. Nothing "manly" about risking his safety knowing he can't do anything. I can't call this one 10 however. The dogfighting is going overboard, they need to move on from it already in my opinion. |
Raven_WingzJun 6, 2016 7:13 AM
| I just wanna know what that hand is that attacks Subaru when he tries to talk about him being able to come back to life. Pretty intriguing stuff |
| Those battle scenes are the best i hope they have more. |
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| Not bad episode to be framed with regard to the story and the action, maybe a little too Subaru-centric storytelling; if he spoke less Subaru, was much more enjoyable narrative. :P Excellent drawings and animations, the strange faces that makes Subaru, those are priceless. Even the sets are very well cared for, applaud at Studio White Fox. :D I admit that the ending I like much more than the opening. In this last phase of the anime series, I noticed that Emilia has become almost a secondary character, while Rem and Ram, the protagonists on a par with Subaru have become. Anyway I wish there was more space with regard to knowledge of the characters. |
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| Rem - scary as fuck. :( Damn, those cliffhangers killing me :( |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I love Ram, back on team Ram. Rem can be rlly nice but her bersek mode is a bit... Not upto my taste. Well Betty is still my overall fac, theres that. And Subaru continues to be my inspiration. |
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| Anyone getting bad vibes from Puck? I haven't read the LN or anything but from that scene where Puck was telling Subaru what happened, it scared me. I know that it wasn't meant to be scary or anything but just looking at Puck made me feel as if he's hiding something. I wouldn't be surprised if he was created by a witch or something. |
| Sasuke or Kaneki I can't decide |
| I think Puck was mad because Subaru's recklessness caused Emilia grief. Sub tried to play it off like no big deal, and it might of annoyed him because his irresponsible behavior took a lot of his Lia's mana. I mean, wouldn't you be pissed at a stupid guy for causing your girl (Puck seems to like her as a girlfriend of sorts) so much trouble? Puck is extremely close to Emilia, and I think he would probably even go insane without her there to keep him under control. We maybe got a taste of his feral spirit behavior there... We also learned later that Sub is infested with a shitload of curses too, and his very presence may be repulsive to Puck and other spirit energy sensitive people. Maybe that's why Rem was even MORE crazy this time? Even when her suffering sister is in her arms she was still stuck in demon mode. Of course yea everyone seems to think Emilia might be the witch..it's hard to not think he's her familiar since he has powerful shadow magic and the fact that he has a shadow element too. |
Raven_WingzJun 6, 2016 7:23 AM
| Huh. An episode that didn't absolutely suck. Maybe because no harem elements or EDGE and like barely any screen time for ''waifu of the season''. Too bad that won't last long. |
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| I can't handle these cliffhangers anymore, they're too much for me. Barusu carrying Ram around looked very funny with the way Ram just drooping. Ram's little smile at the beginning, I'm dying of cuteness overload. |
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Klad said: I just wanna know what that hand is that attacks Subaru when he tries to talk about him being able to come back to life. Pretty intriguing stuff My theory is that ... |
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Hrist16 said: well, I am not a LN reader. Question LN readers why does Arc 4 not get Hyped so much ,is it not good? Cuz Arc 3rd is always what i hear the Best Arc of re zero But why would anyone hype up arc4 when it's not certain whereas arc3 is being adapted right now. I am sure when if they announce a second season, things would be a little bit different. |
| Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
| If the witch's hand can grab at him every time he wants to mention his power, that would mean she's literally watching him and reading his thoughts 24/7...whoa? |
Genjutsuhh said: Idk the whole Rem going all berserk demon felt a bit cliched honestly.. Though it did bring in some nice action. Not to mention the way Ram sliced those beasts with wind magic was just savage xD That last swing tho.. My only concern was what if he ended up hitting her head/neck by accident ? ._. I mean, that blade is sharp, no ? Oni/Ogres are mythological creatures who are known for their extreme temperament and brutal strength. What's cliche about living to the legends about them? |
namedrisk said: ttcchen said: I watched the chinese raws and the way they translated that was ambiguous, and after putting myself in the mindset of an anime-only, i found myself unable to fully understand the situation. I have yet watch the english subbed so maybe it was translated better in that version. :P along with the animation explaining it the translation looked really simple... yes this translation is good. but did it mention that the curses are from the other mabeasts? |
Raven_Wingz said: I can't call this one 10 however. The dogfighting is going overboard, they need to move on from it already in my opinion. I'm pretty sure that the only narrative reason that the dog-fighting hasn't cleared up is that it gives Subaru an excuse to bond with Ram in this timeline as well. The issue in the past is that he always bonded with only one twin or neither, while in order to progress he needs to get both of them to trust him. It's a bit contrived, but not irredeemably so. |
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I am well aware of the image these creatures keep in their respective mythologies. But just because they're being accurate to their legends does not change the fact that it did indeed seem cliched. Characters going berserk due to an ability is something that's been done many times. It's a trend that repeats itself whenever the writers feel like they didn't put enough into the characters initially to make them seem competitive enough. Like I said later on, there's nothing essentially bad about it. What actually matters is how it's all presented. In this case however it wasn't done all too well. I completely understand that you view it as something that's perfectly fine. Thus similarly I was only trying to point out something that I (On my personal part) felt seemed unfitting. |
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| I love Puck. And that smile Ram gave while looking proud of herself was just amazing. But oh man, things were just going from bad to worse in their attempt to save Rem. But god dang it that cliff hanger. |
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Midou89 said: That is true. I'm getting a tad worried about an ending like Gate, where pretty much everything is half finished.Like the anime but kind of wish this arc would have ended this episode. 10 episodes in and it seems like we still haven't got what the main plot is going to be. |
Genjutsuhh said: I am well aware of the image these creatures keep in their respective mythologies. But just because they're being accurate to their legends does not change the fact that it did indeed seem cliched. Characters going berserk due to an ability is something that's been done many times. It's a trend that repeats itself whenever the writers feel like they didn't put enough into the characters initially to make them seem competitive enough. Like I said later on, there's nothing essentially bad about it. What actually matters is how it's all presented. In this case however it wasn't done all too well. I completely understand that you view it as something that's perfectly fine. Thus similarly I was only trying to point out something that I (On my personal part) felt seemed unfitting. If you going be like that than I don't see how you enjoy any story, because literally 99% of everything nowdays has been done before. Besides my point is that is what Oni's are like and it entirely intentional. Calling is pretty cliched is pretty pointless when it doing what you would expect from one based on the myths. It's like complaining about how Werewolf always transform into wolves or how Vampires suck blood, that's point. It's part of their nature. They aren't gonna much differently. |
Well I'm sorry about that. My intentions were not to offend anyone who thought it to be okay. Like I said, I was merely stating an opinion. I personally can't exactly watch a show while just turning off my brain and letting go the details. Its what separates the good from the bad. If I started forgetting everything and start praising the show for whatever it gives out then that's just being unfair to the people who actually put out something original and actually put in a lot more work into their titles. As far as the Oni thing goes, they aren't portrayed as something that goes out of control. Fine, it might not think but they go by their own instincts. Rem on the other hand is portrayed as changing into a completely different person who's actions go without reason. It's an unfitting addition to her character. It's not about "Why the Oni always goes berserk", more like why is she presented as one in the first place when the writers don't know how to make use of it properly ? I'm not trying to bash the show. Neither am I criticizing anyone for not acknowledging my views because everyone thinks differently. Despite the flaws, I still enjoy watching it. But to enjoy a show doesn't necessarily have to mean to ignore the problems. Everyone doesn't necessarily have to look from the same perspective. To each, their own. |
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| This is a really good show, it's got 10/10 potential and I don't say that lightly but it's not there yet. 1) I haven't read ahead and have no desire to, but I'm hoping this arc ends pretty soon. While this set is more interesting than the Elsa episodes I do think that one had better pacing. I want more to be at stake than just fighting off some dog-beasts with awesome twin demon maids (wow that's a redundant phrase). 2) Don't end every last episode on a cliffhanger. These work because you're not expecting them. At this point we know the last two minutes of Re:Zero is going to do a downer something leading into next week's episode. Avoiding that for even three weeks will make the next twist (I have no idea what this might be, but bear with me) pretty spectacular. 3) I can't wait to find out more about this witch, why she's feared, what she's doing and has done, is she like an obsessive stalker watching over him 24/7 knowing when he's about to tell his secret, is she a miss fanservice character, all of that stuff. Right now it's an 8/10 (an 8 1/2 if that were an option) but I can see where it can be a 10 and I want it to get there. |
| Certified "cute girls doing cute things" expert the cute girls doing cute things club needs you! maybe you didn't give re:stage dream days a chance; please re:consider |
| The fastest 24 minutes in my life... no but seriously! I just started the episode and now it has already ended? fml. ._. |
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| Thank god Subaru survived, but it sucks the episode had to end right there. Great episode, though. Rem went complete berserk. Subaru's idea of throwing Ram was funny somehow, though, lol. |
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| I thought Subaru was dead for sure last episode. Rem goes on another rampage and Ram wind magic is so OP. That cliff at the end is such a bitch move lol. |
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Genjutsuhh said: Well I'm sorry about that. My intentions were not to offend anyone who thought it to be okay. Like I said, I was merely stating an opinion. I personally can't exactly watch a show while just turning off my brain and letting go the details. Its what separates the good from the bad. If I started forgetting everything and start praising the show for whatever it gives out then that's just being unfair to the people who actually put out something original and actually put in a lot more work into their titles. As far as the Oni thing goes, they aren't portrayed as something that goes out of control. Fine, it might not think but they go by their own instincts. Rem on the other hand is portrayed as changing into a completely different person who's actions go without reason. It's an unfitting addition to her character. It's not about "Why the Oni always goes berserk", more like why is she presented as one in the first place when the writers don't know how to make use of it properly ?. You're not offending me if you think that is what going. As far going berserk is concerned I think you're being a pedantic here. Oni's are wild creatures who said have short temperament with little in the way of rational, so focusing on Rem's raging is pointless as a typical Oni isn't far from that. Don't see why it's problem that her Oni makes her wild behavior mostly on instinct and one single minded reason (to destroy magic beasts and Witch). it's not she how normally is, that's just side-effect of her powers so you look your making a big deal of nothing to me. It doesn't strike as flaw as much as the fact that you just don't like Berserker type monsters like some don't like Undead monsters such as zombies. |
Iron_MawJun 6, 2016 12:24 PM
Simply put, It just seemed off to me. I have nothing against Berserker type monsters. Just that when it comes to situations like this, when the characters are backed against a wall then some writers tend to do this that they introduce a new form to their characters and turn them into so called "Dues ex Machinas". And among the critics community, this is considered as cheap and effortless story writing. Because instead of thinking of a way for their characters to get around a problem in a more creative way, they introduce plot armor so that they can just barge their way through the obstacle. When you watch a lot of shows, you begin to notice these things more. I am relieved since you said you didn't get offended, cos I do hope that is the case. I want this to be considered as a friendly debate. An argument is not what I was aiming for. |
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| so, from this episode we got some question. first which really bothers me is, why all of the beast, even rem in demon mode responded to subaru when he was about to talk about his "repeat after death" ability to rem ? that's the very first question which really bother me a lot. not for the sub-question, are the beasts on the witch side or dragon side ? i assume they are on the dragon side since all of them responded and looked angry when subaru was about to told everything to rem. and because of that, i reached a conclusion that subaru's "repeat after death" ability has some connection to the witch, moreover, some people said she has this something called "witch scent" so for now, i think that power has a connection to the witch or maybe it's one of the witch power.....maybe...... OR maybe the witch are planning something from the beginning, and that's the reason why subaru is currently in their world ? the witch is trying to use subaru ? but for what if that's the case. obviously, what i mean "the witch is trying to use subaru" is that the ability which subaru has right now. so whenever subaru tries to tell it to other people, that hand grabbing figure always appear and trying to kill him ? well, that's just my other theory which just came up in my mind while writing the first theory ^ on the other side, i just realized how meaningfull subaru's story about blue and red orges in a certain episode to Rem and Ram. the orge's story is simple and it's the same case like Rem and Ram but their's story is way more complicated, for example : the "hornless" accident which happened in their past, Ram (red) relied on Rem (blue), and i bet there are still more of them. either way, i'm more curious about their past which where Ram lost her horn...... or maybe gave her horn to Rem ? that's what's suspicious to me xD the fight was epic as usual especially Rem's demon mode fight scene really satisfy me. the fact that the curse got more complicated than before and then makes it hard to remove it is very interesting imo, and i'm very very very very very very glad that subaru is still alive. last week i has two thoughts, either he would died or he would survive but i was thinking more that he would died. i'm really glad seriously. and by this episode, i'm getting to like Rem and Ram too especially Rem. why ? because her determination to save subaru in the intro, in the very beginning of this episode. that really got me well tbh. and btw! that's one of the example of the orge's story that has connection to rem and ram which is more complicated. and..........off topic.......from...not very beginning, probably episode 3 or 5, i was starting to think that emilia might be the actual witch which everyone were talking about. and i still think she is the witch. there are no solid proff yet, so that's just how i feel and i kinda got suspicious on her because of her explanation at how similiar she is to the witch. maybe the reincarnation of the wtich ? or maybe the witch's daughter ? either way, i'm looking foward for that. i bet emilia has something to do with the witch too. overall, it was a great episode and enjoyable one as usual imo xD not really that intense like in the episode 4,5,6,7,8 xD this episode wasn't really that intense, but either intense or not, i still love this show xD really like how the author made the plot and plot twist and i really like how the director directed everything into something awsome xD whatever....xD i must say the second half was getting intense especially the cliffhanger xD when they put cliffhanger in the very intense scene........makes you want to watch the next episode so badly xD looking foward for the next episode. just in case TL;DR : a freaking awsome and enjoyable episode overall. the fight was epic. and i like the little bit of revelation of Rem and Ram's past which has a big meaning. and i like the fact that all of the beast were responding to subaru when he was about to tell everything to Ram. still many question, but the question itself is the one who made me addicted to this anime, want to see more of it and curious for about what will happen. Edit: i just realize how long i just wrote xD it's like i was making a report LOL xD well, that's how much i like this anime xD |
YizelTroJun 6, 2016 1:06 PM
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| I was so hype for this show at the beginning of the season. Now I am feeling very "meh" towards it. The plot progression is so slow. I was able to forgive it at first because of the whole "Dying, resetting, retrying" thing but now its been multiple episodes since he has died and it seems like he isn't making much progressing. I'm in Rem & Ram's camp when it comes to what Subaru's motives are. Why is he so desperately invested in this small community. How does he know the things he knows? If he was killed because of being suspicious in the first few days at the mansion, why haven't they killed him again? His behavior now is far more suspicious then it was during his first few attempts. Was this really the best way he could have gained the trust of the mansion as a whole? I do like Re:Zero but it could be so much better than it is. After seeing some posts in this thread, I know I'm not alone (Despite the landslide victory of people who "Loved" the episode). I initially rated this a 9, because I thought the premise was interesting and we were constantly being introduced new rules, new people, new places but its stagnant now. Maybe I'm being to hard, and I'd love to open a discussion on anything I've posted above, because I might have been missing some points. |
| Not a fan of Subaru's "Witch Aura Summon" when he tries to tell others his respawn ability. Looks like a cheap ability he can indefinitely use as long as he endures the pain. Decent episode though. |
| I think it's just playing up the character development and preparing for another gigantic mindf*** conclusion. I don't trust this anime to invest my self in the characters! It's probably just getting us all cozy and then POW, SPLAT! Too much cuteness and happysauce going around in the last episodes. It wants me to like the Onis, NOPE! I know this sadistic anime wants to trick me! That's why I love it though. Thinking of the worst scenarios is fun once I get into it. |
| This was a bit of a transitional episode so it wasn't as satisfying as the last two episodes, but nonetheless I enjoyed it. Subaru's speeches can get a little grandiose at times lol, so it's good that people like Ram are there to poke fun at it. That being said I think most of them come from a genuine place, or are just Subaru's way of trying to build courage during times where he ordinarily should be scared shitless. KannaAyasaki said: After experiencing death that much of times, he sure started to build an 'immunity' to the dread of dying. I sure he hope he won't be dying again anytime soon, fear is essential in living after all. It would be really sad if he eventually thought of dying as something of normalcy. From the general tone of the series, I feel like for him to survive and not have a mental break, he has to build an immunity to the dread of dying. I feel like currently he views each "life" that he has as an opportunity to solve an objective, so I think he does value life (as you can see how he continues to try and muster up courage and resolve to not give up this episode, when most would probably sit this one out and let the twins take care of it). That being said, i do think he is afraid of many other things, so he's not losing all his sense of fear, just when it comes to the actual act of death. I think was he fears most currently is dying and "wasting a life" and having to start over again from the beginning. Lord_Thantus said: I really like how smart Subaru is. I wish more video games would use game limitations as a way of gameplay. "Oh, the game penalizes you for actively trying to use this specific command? Well, let's use this penalty as a way of luring the bad guys in order to find the important plot NPC!" I agree! All though his plan wasn't flawless and didn't work out as he had intended, it was still quick thinking that got him to see Rem sooner than if they had just wandered around in the forest. Throwing Ram towards Rem wasn't one of his better plans (it was more funny/comical if anything), but at least he tries to take risks instead of giving up lol. Lord_Thantus said: EDIT: Also, the guy figured out they're demons super quick or we never got context of that thought process. That, assuming he didn't just accept it suddenly when Ram and/or Beatrice mentioned being a demon and all that jazz. At this point, with all things he experienced, I think to him, having demons isn't such a stretch. He's seen witches, and magical sword fights, and comes back to life every time he dies so he probably think's that he is just learning new things about the world that he otherwise wouldn't have been privy too. I think reading in the library, even if it's rudimentary reading, as well as talks with the other characters have increased his knowledge about the world he is in and it's history. I also think that he's still trying to figure things out, from the way he asked about the demons (i.e. when he said "the race you call oni/demons" instead of "so the demons".) Tiande said: Not a fan of Subaru's "Witch Aura Summon" when he tries to tell others his respawn ability. Looks like a cheap ability he can indefinitely use as long as he endures the pain. From what I've seen, I think having the "smell of the witch" increases every time he dies and it looks like it makes his "scent" stronger when he tries to speak about his ability, so I think that does actually have negative consequences. Before Rosewall and the others suspected him of being shady because he smelled like the witch which made him suspicious, so I think there's probably larger implications to using this "loophole" than Subaru realizes at this time. ttcchen said: yes this translation is good. but did it mention that the curses are from the other mabeasts? Yes, when Subaru pulls up his shirt he mentions that the situation looks grim because of how many different scratches he has, implying that he was bitten by many different dogs. maybe you should delete the first comment you made or just edit to say you were seeing that based on chinese raws, because it looks like people might not let this go for a while lol. Overall 4/5. Can't wait for the next episode. : -) |
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zaidk said: What are these rem rules? Ah lol, I think you saw my signatures eh? Why would you ask this in a episode discussion though o.O Source (in Japanese of course) = http://rezero.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/ask%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81 |
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| Damn that was a really good episode, this series just gets better and better. Subaru carrying Ram around was really cute. |
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DarklordVor said: zaidk said: What are these rem rules? Ah lol, I think you saw my signatures eh? Why would you ask this in a episode discussion though o.O Source (in Japanese of course) = http://rezero.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/ask%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81 Wait, is this a thing that'll actually happen? Maybe I shouldn't be asking this now, but still... |
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| This anime really makes 24 minutes feel like 5 minutes |
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| the best part is still the ep title part, it means "cliffhanger notice" |
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Lord_Thantus said: DarklordVor said: Ah lol, I think you saw my signatures eh? Why would you ask this in a episode discussion though o.O Source (in Japanese of course) = http://rezero.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/ask%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81 Wait, is this a thing that'll actually happen? Maybe I shouldn't be asking this now, but still... Nah not really, it was just a joke made by the author during a Q&A section. Because someone asked if we'll get to see her doing yandere scenes. Though, never ever talk to her about the mayonnaise lol. |
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| nice action packed episde |
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| Hope next episode doesn't begin with him waking up in bed finding out rem pierced him while he was falling down. |
ttcchen said: yes this translation is good. but did it mention that the curses are from the other mabeasts? Yes, it does I was just lazy to screenshot the whole translation. |
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