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Interesting chapter. Out of all the enemies introduced, I like the War Princess Dimaria the best. Her character design is awesome and she gives off a mystical feel. And I don't normally care for character designs that much (as long as they're not horrid). I really hope that Dimaria really isn't a wizard; it would be nice to watch a battle with no chance of power-ups coming out of nowhere... -_-
Aiko_Hiroshi said: I'm really interested in how Natsu believes he can kill someone that is immortal.
Don't forget that Natsu isn't a human but a demon. Zeref most likely made him immortal in some way as well.
Think of Drax and Thanos
Meanwhile Brandish is becoming quite a fan favorite but I'm more focused on Dimaria and August to be honest. Wonder if Dimaria has magical armor instead of having ethernano inside of her.
I think I know what Natsu has hidden but he's crazy to think it will work
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
This is similar to rave master. Lucy will end up being the tactician. It's foreshadowing. Hell I won't be surprised if Layla pops out and gives some kind of power boost
metsujin said: Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
I know you're just joking but If this ends up with FT soloing them, then this better be the end of the manga, otherwise there's no other way to make any more villains for FT.
Albarez Empire are supposed to have the power to wipe the entire Ishigar continent and it was also created to counter Achnologia.
Hoping we can see the hype paying off and battles turning out like,
DiMaria vs Erza/Kagura/Mirajane/Minerva,
Brandish vs Lucy/Cana/Angel,
God Serena vs Laxus/Jura/Jellal
Not exactly like these, but you get the point
Funny thing is, despite being stated multiply times people are still setting up fights like Natsu vs Azir or Erza vs DiMaria.
I love how Mashima has had at least some fanservice every arc, Brandish seems to be huge fanservice for foot types...
(POSSIBLE WEIRD / GROSS THEORIES BELOW, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED)
Speaking of Brandish, I just realised something. Her power seems to be the ability to shrink people, and she can apparently shrink anyone or anything since she has shrunken entire islands and one of the Spriggan 12... so... WHY DOESN'T ZEREF HAVE HER SHRINK HIM, AND THEN KILL HIM, SINCE HE WANTS TO DIE SO BADLY?
Major, major plot hole just discovered. Like wow. Zeref has stated (I think in the last chapter or the one before it) that you can't die even from beheading if you have the Ankseram curse. But if you still have the brain intact, then I guess that's how the curse keeps you alive?
What if all Brandish had to do was squish Zeref to a pile of mush? Even if that didn't work (and this is kind of gross, but bear with me) she could probably swallow shrunken Zeref and then he would be digested by her... HOW WOULD HE EVEN SURVIVE THAT???
I'm guessing that when he first met Brandish and learned what she could do, Zeref probably tried all that but for some reason it didn't work. I dunno why it wouldn't, unless he was somehow immune to the shrinking, but then that would be just stupid.
(END OF STUFF THAT MIGHT GET ME BANNED)
Anyway... matchup theories!
(POTENTIAL MATCHUPS)
Gray vs. Invel (Let's face it, Gray and Juvia are both strong enough to solo now, we still don't know the full extent of Gray's demonslayer powers that he got from his father. Even if it's not enough, there will be others who join in once Gray has been thoroughly messed up)
Laxus and Natsu vs. Ajeel
Erza, Kagura, and Millianna vs. Diamaria (I want to see the catwoman in at least one of the upcoming fights, Millianna has barely done crap in all of Fairy Tail)
Juvia vs. Brandish (I'm calling it, Juvia is going to solo win by making Brandish choke on either water or herself in hydra form, even if she gets shrunk somehow; Juvia's water magic is kind of hax. Also, I'm predicting more than just feet fanservice from Brandish, this seems like the final arc, and Brandish happens to be Mashima's final champion of fanservice or something. This is honestly the first time I have ever seen serious giantess stuff in a manga of all places)
Gajeel and Levy vs. BADD MANN (Love that name, just love that name. Also he is probably the weakest of the Spriggan 12, I just get that vibe from him)
Lisanna, Mirajane, and Elfman vs. God Serena (You know Elfman was PISSED... or was
that someone else?)
There is just no way Makarov is winning solo against Magic King August, I imagine it's going to be him and whoever is left from matchups vs. that guy. Heck, there are going to be some solo fights, some duo or multi fights, and then at least one fight where nearly all of freaking Fairy Tail and a bunch of other guilds are up against one guy, that is either going to be Acnologia, Magic King August, or Zeref (I'm hoping it's not Zeref, that would be stupid and end up with a lot of dead, see below)
Either before or after the Fairy Tail vs. Spriggan 12 matchups, either EVERYONE (Or anyone who is left) is going to fight Acnologia (In fact, Acnologia might not even be fighting yet, but he will for sure be raising hell during the festival and the fights)
Mavis is going to fight Zeref, but not in the usual sense. I don't think she is going to let Fairy Tail fight him, other than letting Natsu try and one-shot Zeref only for him to fail and then they both will have to deal with him some other way; Natsu, for like probably the first time in the whole series, is going to have to solve the problem another way other than fighting, and it will be two of the only people whom
Zeref really loved up against him. Probably a nice way to end this arc, if not the series. I'm still guessing like others have predicted that Zeref is going to die when he is convinced to love himself.
(END OF POTENTIAL MATCHUPS)
I also really want to see some backstories (perhaps by flashbacks, how else?) to the Spriggan 12, like how did they meet Zeref, how did he start his kingdom, etc. What I really, really don't want is for there to be loose story ends in this arc.
This is getting to be one hell of an arc, SUCH HYPE...
Lucasloco91 said: WHERE
IS
GILDARTS
MY
THOUGHTS
EXACTLY
Also, WTF is Jellal, Meredy, the former Oracon Seis members, and all of Crime Sorciere doing? They too have just been GONE since Tartaros Arc, and they barely did anything in that arc other than one fight where they got new members.
Seriously, all Mashima needs to do to make this arc perfect is to have both of them make a return, do something interesting other than return (Would love to see at least one more Jellal x Erza moment, even if they decide to break up and Erza gets with someone else LIKE NATSU... yeah, right, like that's going to happen), and make the fights not suck.
EDIT: I'm sorry if this was one big wall of text with spoilers from past chapters, I have put tags and shortened it a bit.
This is getting to be one hell of an arc, SUCH HYPE...
Brandish didn't shrunk one of the Spriggan 12, that guy is from her own group.
LOL dat theory behind Brandish vs Zeref.
I'm guessing that Zeref immortality doesn't limit to lethal damage like that, would explain the beheading thing, there must be something special behind the curse of immortality, maybe Ankhseran itself turns on whenever Zeref is in true danger, so it kills any and everything around him and Natsu is the only one that can counter it?
Nobody of the Spriggan 12 should be solo'd, if they are supposed to have the power to destroy Ishigar and counter Achnologia, they are not to be understimated, unless only one of them is really strong, which would make this retarded(Since we're talking about FT here, I actually don't doubt about this, lol).
Ajeel
I actually think Ajeel is one of the weakest of them, so Laxus and Natsu would be good I guess, maybe Jellal aswell?
DiMaria
While I agree with you about Millianna, someone like her shouldn't even get close to DiMaria, for me it would be like Erza,Kagura,Mirajane and Minerva vs DiMaria.
Brandish for me feels like Ulquiorra from Bleach, she's very calm, already showed how strong she is and very comic aswell, also she really doesn't care about anything except orders from Zeref, there might be more than just a simple fight for her in the future, I really have this feeling she's special even among them.
Badd Mann is actually a bad translation his real name is Wahru Ihyto.
Well since we don't know nothing about the guy and based on his pathetic look, I'm betting on him taking the weakest ones like Evergreen,Elfman,Trio from Blue Pegasus, etc.
God Serena should fight people like Gildarts, Jura and Jellal, the hype behind him is just too much, even after seeing DAT scene from Serena, I still think he's ridiculously strong.
I'm guessing to take down August it would need the 3Kings of Ishgar and maybe even more if he really is even above Zeref and all the hype at him being in a total different level than any of the Spriggan 12.
I completely agree with you about focusing on Spriggan12, I really really want Mashima to make more development of them, I don't know something about them feels different than any other gang of the series, they just seem unique for me, so I really want to see some backstories and more about their life-style.
This arc has literally EVERYTHING to be the biggest and the most epic moment of the manga, so praying everyday for Mashima to keep like this.
-ZET- said: Brandish - Easily best character of the Spriggan 12, dat personality, calm and comic X) Really really loving her.
Her magic is also really interesting and I'm thinking that she can shrink magics spells aswell, example: making that Lightning bolt from Laxus to nothing?
Invel - Looks to be the strategic guy + ice magic(ice make?)so this guy could show to Gray how to really use this kind of magic at it's best.
Ajeel - Despite the fact that I hate character with feast for battles, we can't deny the fact that he's very strong.
Dimaria - Easily the best design of the 12, I would love to see her fighting against Natsu, also is she the first fighting girl of FT universe, because I don't remember anybody else.
God Serena - Despite that f*cking entrance this guy still has a serious face, IDK, something about him really intrigs me.
August - aka Hype king, after being told that his magic is above Zeref himself...WHAT???
BaddMann - Pretty much the guy who will destroy the entire hype of the group, really pathetic look and keeps repeating things(characters that repeat things like that = ugh for me), on the other hand we know nothing about him, hoping for the best.
August above zeref ? i don´t think so it just say that he knows more types of magics.
Question
Do you guys think that Natsu can use Dragon Force at will just like Wendy? I mean he obviously trained a lot past year, but it's Natsu, he could simply not get the idea of training Dragon Force :D
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
My point was that it won't ALL be one on ones. As for which guys do get a 1v1 matchup, that I won't spoil for anyone, though its probably pretty easy to tell who.
First ~5 pages could as well be removed. Tasteless fanservice.
Then its pretty much "lets introduce the villains" for whole chapter. Very reminiscent of Avatar when they were sitting around the table. GOds i hope these ones last longer -__-
So what is dragon king festival? Was it GMG? Was it Tartaros arc? Was it whatever is coming now? I Doubt even mashima knows at this point.
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
My point was that it won't ALL be one on ones. As for which guys do get a 1v1 matchup, that I won't spoil for anyone, though its probably pretty easy to tell who.
Lexus for sure and they pretty much set up gray vs the winter general, hopefully juvia let's him be
Natsu is to unpredictable
Erza is Ezra
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
My point was that it won't ALL be one on ones. As for which guys do get a 1v1 matchup, that I won't spoil for anyone, though its probably pretty easy to tell who.
Lexus for sure and they pretty much set up gray vs the winter general, hopefully juvia let's him be
Natsu is to unpredictable
Erza is Ezra
Everyone else is a team up
orrr Natsu beats them all down in a single chapter. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
There are other Godly mages that aren't introduced yet. I wonder how strong they are, the remaining 12.
And
Curious who is the strongest Spriggan. =_='
Fuck that was a nice chapter. I can't believe that old guy is supposed to be the strongest though :o
I missed those scenes where Mest acts like a total dumbass :p
Some nice artwork for Laxus too. Oh and shit Dimaria 😭😭😭 why call her after a soccer player though, bruh 😲
EX_buildabear said: If this Is truly a war, then I pray every single guild of Ishgar gets involved in this battle. this cant just be a battle where this one member from fairy tail is matched up with this one general of alvarez. yeah, that's the basic shounen battle setup, but I'm just hoping for a bit more then that. that being said, I'm loving the setup, it just needs to be executed well.
*Spoiler*
Don't worry, it won't be like that. Fairy tail members can NOT take on the spriggan 12 1v1, Mashima is well aware of this. The enemies are on a different level this time. Other guild members will get involved, but the final conclusion will be decided by fairy tail members, kinda like in the Oracion Seis arc.
Nah pretty sure we'll see some 1v1 battles. Laxus proved he got stronger and they say the enemy is strong blah blah but you can't know before you don't see them in action...
My point was that it won't ALL be one on ones. As for which guys do get a 1v1 matchup, that I won't spoil for anyone, though its probably pretty easy to tell who.
Lexus for sure and they pretty much set up gray vs the winter general, hopefully juvia let's him be
Natsu is to unpredictable
Erza is Ezra
animeruler1 said: Huh everyone keeps saying this is the final arc but I don't that is true
Look at this https://www.reddit.com/r/fairytail/comments/2w8pm9/some_frequently_asked_questions/
It says that the grand magic games was roughly the half way mark so given how long it took to get this I seriously can't see this as the last arc
The only way this would be the last arc would be if everything went according to plan. Which it won't. Something unexpected is going to happen.
I really can't wait to see how this 3-way battle will end up. Regarding the secret technique on Natsu's arm, I think it has something to do with E.N.D. But that's what I think :)
Interesting to see over half of the Spriggan 12. Some matchups seem to be looking forward to.
Gray vs Imber (Imvel)
Gajeel vs Azir (Ajeel)
Maybe a double battle, Erza and Mirajane vs Brandish and Dimaria
Laxus (and/or maybe Gildartz) vs God Serena
Crime Sorciere vs August
Let's see how it unfolds
The loneliest people are the kindest. The saddest people smile the brightest. The most damaged people are the wisest. All because they don't wish to see anyone else suffer the way they did.
August - aka Hype king, after being told that his magic is above Zeref himself...WHAT???
BaddMann - Pretty much the guy who will destroy the entire hype of the group, really pathetic look and keeps repeating things(characters that repeat things like that = ugh for me), on the other hand we know nothing about him, hoping for the best.
For Christ sake people. STOP READING SHITTY MANGAPANDA TRANSLATIONS!!!!!
Makarov didn't say his magic is above Zeref. He said he has more diversity. Also the bad man thing came out because they translate the name. Look an the explanation from mangastream.
ahsinam33 said: Interesting chapter. Out of all the enemies introduced, I like the War Princess Dimaria the best. Her character design is awesome and she gives off a mystical feel. And I don't normally care for character designs that much (as long as they're not horrid). I really hope that Dimaria really isn't a wizard; it would be nice to watch a battle with no chance of power-ups coming out of nowhere... -_-