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BliuBliu said: I just have one thing I don't understand. So the editor came looking for Youzou because of the drafts or whatever. And the editor decided to have sex with his wife in their house while he is waiting for him to come down? What the fuck? Did I miss something or did this ridiculous shit really happen? I think he raped the girl everyday and the manga isn't really published either. Yoshika offer herself so that the director can pretend to publish Youzou manga and paid him for doing so. After realized the truth, Youzou drugged himself to death. |
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You said: I think he raped the girl everyday and the manga isn't really published either. Yoshika offer herself so that the director can pretend to publish Youzou manga and paid him for doing so. After realized the truth, Youzou drugged himself to death. I got all that. I'm just wondering why would he have sex with her if he knows her husband is upstairs and he was waiting for him to come down. That's silly. |
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BliuBliu said: You said: I think he raped the girl everyday and the manga isn't really published either. Yoshika offer herself so that the director can pretend to publish Youzou manga and paid him for doing so. After realized the truth, Youzou drugged himself to death. I got all that. I'm just wondering why would he have sex with her if he knows her husband is upstairs and he was waiting for him to come down. That's silly. Because both parties know that Youzou is rather idiotic? And also note that Youzou spend literally more than 90% of his time on that room so that they think Youzou won't noticed. |
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You said: Because both parties know that Youzou is rather idiotic? And also note that Youzou spend literally more than 90% of his time on that room so that they think Youzou won't noticed. I guess that's a decent explanation, but it still just doesn't sit with me right. I may be nitpicky in this case but it just took me out of the story. I felt the situation was forced to make Youzou lose his mind again (though his mind was already lost a long time ago). I searched about this story and apparently, the end of the book was a bit different than how the anime portrayed it. But regardless, I enjoyed this arc overall. |
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| Why did nobody killed that f*cking director !!? I'm so f*cking angry right now I'm gonna do some push-ups so I can calm down I hope it works |
| I don't know if someone pointed this out, but the Author of this story had crazy similarities with Youzou, the author in REAL LIFE tried to commit a double suicide and ended up living while the woman died, he too was a drug addict/alcoholic and a womanizer, and it is believed that the "rape" scene of Youzou's wife downstairs is a representation of the fact that the Author's wife was having sex with someone else while he was in the hospital being treated for drug abuse, so, i'm almost positive it wasn't rape and the wife was indeed having sex with the guy regularly to pay the bills. |
| Very dark and depressing story, the setting is very good. I will rate all the arcs when i finish them all, but for now my approx rating for this arc will be 7-8. |
| No words, it was so well done *-* |
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| Well, I don't know about you people but seriously I wouldn't even know how to react about being cheated, especially in a situation like this one (you really need to work or maintain your bubble dream alive in order to not falling to depression) Would I forgive my wife? Would I really fall to misery? F*ck, this shows really make you think about this situations |
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| Damn. It all ended up waay worse than I imagined. hikky said: zerotonin said: Did he actually kill himself? I thought he just went into a morphine binge and eventually died from TB. You could be right. I guess it's really open to interpretation how they meant for the end of the episode to be seen, at any rate they certainly depicted him giving up as a human. Same thought here. It's up to you to think it was suicide or tuberculosis, anyway he gave up. I loved the artwork of this anime, I've found it unique. As regards the content itself, I've been gradually getting into the story. I didn't really like the first episode, but it got better and better every minute so that in the end it became surprisingly interesting. I also agree with someone up there who commented it should have been longer. Yep, a 12-episode series as minimum. |
| This was interesting but damn the only one I care about is poor Yoshiko ;-; |
| Quite a few people seem to be convinced that Yoshiko actually did this on a regular basis with the director. I'm honestly not sure about that considering her face while Youzou found out and the fact that she teared up when he brought it up. Could honestly be the way people think or rape. Both seem possible. I don't think that's the point though. Regarding the story it only matters what Youzou thought it was and, well, he made that pretty clear. No matter if his thoughts were the truth or not that was what destroyed him in the end. I'm honestly curious to read the original story now. Sadly I can't read Japanese and translations always lose a lot on the way :( |
| Emotions taking over, making irrational choices, delayed mental issues consideration. The result, Dramatization. |
Contemporary0091Dec 28, 2017 8:13 PM
| And still, Bill will live on. He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god. And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living, until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet. Until the sun is long since gone. Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open. Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from. He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out. |
| This whole story was fantastic and it finally ends. Damn kind of wanted more. |
| Man! Anger also flowed within me when the scene with his wife was going to get raped which was indicated on the narration this episode. MAN what a life Youzou has been living. |
| The rape was fucked up and I was scared it would be NTR. Great episode. |
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| Ahhh, sad ending for him. I agree that Yoshiko was cheating with another man -boss-. If she would have screamed, i believe her but nop. She attempts suicide because he noticed about it. Of course, another option is that she was raped because she wouldn't risk to be discovered if she was really cheating him. That make that his attempt suicide have more sense. I felt pity for him. Yes, he partly gets the blame but his childhood and the double suicide attempt made him more unstable. His death is for interpretation. The woman in the store could be an image of the woman that dies in the first episode or the death itself. I don't agree that is a real person because is the same women from years ago. In the end, he accepts that he is a monster and not a human. I'm surprise about his friend, he changed a lot and wants to be in the military. I was thinking that Yozo will kill people but his end surprise me. I don't felt anything about the death of his father, he deserves it. So. This arc is over. In just four episodes, a single character have more personality than others in an anime that have more than 10 episodes. 5/5. Great arc despite we never know what happen to the journalist and her kid. |
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
| Someone unable to trust, someone unable to open up, someone unable to have lasting bonds, someone unable to connect, someone that failed as a human being. That was Youzou. It was a pretty sad and depressing story. We got to see his decadence and how he wasn't able to live as a human no matter how hard he tried. I will try to get the book and read it when I have the time. I'm impacted to say the least, but I'm not even sure if I liked it, I just know it was good. But it left a bitter aftertaste for sure. I really like the bits of trivia about the author and the story at the beginning though, and I'm looking forward to next story already! This anime is good. |
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| If any one still watching this thread,I have a question. the intro said this a famous manga artist autobiography. How come was "this" the only way to sell his drawings ?! |
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Joe_Med said: If any one still watching this thread,I have a question. the intro said this a famous manga artist autobiography. How come was "this" the only way to sell his drawings ?! I think you misinterpreted, the writer of the novel (Dazai) wrote this novel about a manga writer named Youzou, and the narrator said it is in a way autobiographical, because the author himself had similar problems with society and women, and tried a double suicide with him surviving, but it is not a autobiography per se. I hope that helps. OT: This was a very, very heavy story to watch, and I guess it is open to interpretation whether his wife was raped, or really made a deal like that, and also whether he died from OD on the spot, or became a junkie away from society. |
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A_Haiku_Unloose said: Joe_Med said: If any one still watching this thread,I have a question. the intro said this a famous manga artist autobiography. How come was "this" the only way to sell his drawings ?! I think you misinterpreted, the writer of the novel (Dazai) wrote this novel about a manga writer named Youzou, and the narrator said it is in a way autobiographical, because the author himself had similar problems with society and women, and tried a double suicide with him surviving, but it is not a autobiography per se. I hope that helps. OT: This was a very, very heavy story to watch, and I guess it is open to interpretation whether his wife was raped, or really made a deal like that, and also whether he died from OD on the spot, or became a junkie away from society. - may be died from TB, OD or age (everything is possible) I don't think it's rape as it appear it wasn't against her well as I remember, may be it was lust this only time or a regular basis deal . (but coming to think of it now, who will publish hundreds of copies of a manga for an affair ? not a win win situation if you think of it. and there isn't a cost/benifit balance in any possibility) This anime is underrated and the stories were amazing it need to enter the 8.xx rating at least. Thanks for reply |
| Think it twice, Is it worth? |
| I will remember this episode for the rest of my life... |
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| i try to avoid these kind of stories...... i got so angry at the character choices |
| It might be late but i just rewatched and finished this episode and the ending is so depressing. Didnt know that the others interpreted the ending as Yozo's wife doing favors for his boss in exchange of publishing his works. Im just sad the fact that people blame Yozo's wife instead of helping her. She even asked Yozo why he didn't save her but since Yozo's mind is so fck*d up, he's so vulnerable and very delicate / sensitive because of his previous incident, he accused that her wife is giving sexual pleasure to his boss instead of believe in her and that's what make me so mad about him. Very irrational decision that her wife is so shocked and dumbfounded about what he replied on her. She's crying man , she even tried to take pills because of what happened . That's why i feel so sorry for his wife for dragging her in his misfortune and delusion. Sucks man. but still the ending is good since he got what he wanted. He wont suffer anymore. overall 8/10 Sorry for my bad english. Not really good at this , just frustrated with this ep i guess :/ |
| Fake people have an image to maintain. Real people just don't care. -Hikki |
Jrittmayer said: Selkaine said: This anime is fucked up! But in a good way :D This is how I saw it, so you're not alone. I remember reading somewhere that back in the day some cultures would accuse women of being cheaters when they were raped or molested (like it was the woman's fault she was violated and not the man's) and maybe that's what Yozo instantly thought when he saw her. Same, I don't think she was giving up her body to his boss, I think his boss just took advantage of her and Yozo, in his warped state of mind, imagined that she was doing it to get his manga published. I guess im not alone. Yozo's wife even asked him why he didn't help her and she's crying , then Yozo replied and she was so shocked and dumbfounded on what he said, instead of helping her , he even accused her wife and that's so f*cked up . Im so mad with this protagonist dragging her wife in his miserable life. Hmmp :/ |
| Fake people have an image to maintain. Real people just don't care. -Hikki |
| Well, that was a really heavy ending to an already heavy story. It was such a downer that I had to spare a few minutes to collect my thoughts and not end up getting depressed for the rest of the night. It was made even sadder for me thanks to the narrator in the opening pointing out that the guy who made it based the book on the shitty life he lived nearly to a t. I empathize with him because I'm pretty similar as much as I would like to say otherwise but I can see that if Yozo wasn't naive, he was a coward. Even though he eventually realized that his wife had been doing sexual favors for the editor so they'll be able to keep themselves financially afloat, he wasn't even able to get himself to push that bastard off of her in the heat of the moment. To have that happen just when he thought he was starting over was prime breakdown material so I'll have to give him that. Him dying or turning into a junkie didn't matter because at that point, he had completely stopped being a human and threw away everything remotely related to it when he went into that drugstore for the last time... I would've liked to give him a hug without any drugs and alcohol within a 5 mile radius. |
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| Shiiiit,what a set of 4 depressing episodes. this guy had it hard from the get go. |
Diangelo18Oct 29, 2019 11:42 PM
| Depression, anxiety, boredom, scared of being left alone, driven by the monster he carries inside him, lost in the darkness, the last hope which he wanted to protect being shattered, what a cruel life Dazai experienced. |
| To think this story "No longer human" is based on the author Osamu Dazai's life makes it more depressing Pretty sad that yoshiko sold her body to the editor in order for him to pretend to sell Ooba's manga Ooba's life really portrayed some extreme cases of human's weaknesses, from not being able to stop drinking to going to bed with multiple women without actual love.....he finally succeeded in the one thing he failed at...committing suicide by the looks of the end scene |
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| Ok that was good, but i'll give it 8/10 because it feels very rushed in comparison to the original novel, and takes a lot of liberties from it (for example, Yokisho actually was raped in the novel, and it wasn't Yozo's editor the rapist. Also a lot of things are better explained like the arc of Shizuko and her daughter and some characters such as Horiki have more presence) but idk, i guess i understand since they only had 4 episodes to adapt the story..still prefering the novel though. |
noirblumenJul 15, 2020 10:03 PM
| Well there’s a lot of interpretation for that scene with Yoshiko. I actually thought at first that she was raped. However after that statement of Youzou, he could also be right that Yoshiko is giving sexual favors to his editor in order for him to get a job. But, it can also mean that Yoshiko were just forced by the editor to do that and given that she wants a decent job for Youzou, that leave her no choice. Either way that is still inhumane. And it just piss me off that Horiki didn’t even do anything. As for Youzou, I think Horiki’s presence trigger a lot of emotions in Youzou that’s why he suddenly started drinking again. Or since he begin to draw that “ghost” again even before Horiki’s visit, there’s something that trigger him and become in an unstable state. Given all that psychological trauma he had in the past, and it’s also possible that he already have an idea about Yoshiko and his editor (there’s a scene before he came downstairs and saw the act that it seems like he knows what is happening), all were really too much for him. Overall this story is really interesting, it would be much better to have more episodes in it to further explore Youzou’s past and also current life. |
| When I first watched No Longer Human, it struck a chord many years ago. That feeling of alienation & detachment from society cut all too deep. It was a surreal experience that loomed like a shadow over me. It was only recently that I finally read the book and delved deeper into that gnawing sense of nihilism. Having the context of the novel certainly gave so much more depth to Yozo's story as well as my connection to it. And while I'm no longer in the same abyss that led me to this work, a lingering attachment to NLH still remains. I only wish this was an episode or two longer and had covered the entire story. One of the main themes that I've really come to understand in life is what Yozo says towards the end of the book. "Everything passes." |
ZekkenshinNov 15, 2020 12:30 PM
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| These 4 episodes were really something else, watching this got me all depressed now. I don't know how to process wtf I just witnessed... |
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| His life was very tragic. Will definitely read the book someday. |
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| Wait what? This is the final chapter? I thought Oba is going to meet his sister again... |
| In the manga version I read, Oba is supposed to meet another woman and cheated again, and that drove Yoshiko to madness.... |
| so he accepted his monster self, good ending |
| i don't think the main character is likable by any means. pathetic and a disgrace to man. i got angry when he didn't even try to stop that boss. he deserved what he got in the end. |
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| The last half of the episode, that was one fuck up into another. Still, I think the first episode is the best, the way it set up the story. |
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