| So you're accusing me of being a liar to myself and to you? The way you "should" answer is honestly, and I answered "how I should". |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I'm an INFP. |
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| ISFP Introvert(78%) Sensing(1%) Feeling(75%) Perceiving(44%) Sounds surprisingly accurate, actually. But I don't think I'm that introvert. Maybe in 60%-40% ratio. |
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| You did say that it can't be excluded, and it does fit the definition of "liar". Because if I answered how "it should be" (by your definition), I lied to myself because I am not that way, thus I made some false statements to myself through the test. Knowing that, I also told everyone else I am how "it should be", while knowing it's a "lie" to myself, that means I am "lying" to you too, and you told me just that. So what should I do then? It seems I'm wrong and the test is wrong too. But the other users seem to be able to discern truth from wrong in this case. I don't know who to believe though. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| True, you didn't actually claim it, rather you said others claimed it. Well, "lying" can be deemed wrong, so it is not wrong to claim it is an "accusation", it fits the definition, I also don't find it hard to be honest to myself. I always am honest with myself. That's not a given, it can easily just be a game to make you think otherwise, and it's seems to be working. Me neither. Yes, I never denied that, I'm just trying to go with the flow, Space-Wizard seems to not want to debate this out instead he'll stay on the sidelines because he knows what he's trying to do. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: True, you didn't actually claim it, rather you said others claimed it. Well, "lying" can be deemed wrong, so it is not wrong to claim it is an "accusation", it fits the definition, I also don't find it hard to be honest to myself. I always am honest with myself. That's not a given, it can easily just be a game to make you think otherwise, and it's seems to be working. Me neither. Yes, I never denied that, I'm just trying to go with the flow, Space-Wizard seems to not want to debate this out instead he'll stay on the sidelines because he knows what he's trying to do. idgaf 'bout no test bro I'm just letting you know. Deffs ENFJ. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
| Prove it. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Prove it. don't have to, you already proved it yourself. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
| How so? Explain. I don't see how your evidence fits your conclusion. It's pretty fucking funny, but I like ENTJ's a lot, more than ENTP's. I won't accept the classification because it is simply wrong. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: How so? Explain. I don't see how your evidence fits your conclusion. Lack of T and P, right there, solid, this post. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Space-Wizard said: Taking it literally won't make your argument look better though.Immahnoob said: How so? Explain. I don't see how your evidence fits your conclusion. Lack of T and P, right there, solid, this post. "I don't see" doesn't mean I truly don't see it, I mean it doesn't work argumentation wise or it's simply not sound, which it isn't. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Space-Wizard said: Taking it literally won't make your argument look better though.Lack of T and P, right there, solid, this post. "I don't see" doesn't mean I truly don't see it, I mean it doesn't work argumentation wise or it's simply not sound, which it isn't. I'm sorry that you feel that way and can't think of the reasoning behind why my arguments are correct. I wish you wouldn't judge my argumentation when you fail to perceive my points. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
| You misinterpret each acronym's meaning at this point though. Perceiving and Judging are not to be taken literally when it comes to Myerr-Briggs. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: You misinterpret each acronym's meaning at this point though. You don't like my wordplay? :c |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Space-Wizard said: Wordplay doesn't work when it comes to systems. If we're arguing based on Myerr-Briggs, judging does not have the definition it tends to have when we argue based on something that isn't Myerr-Briggs.Immahnoob said: You misinterpret each acronym's meaning at this point though. You don't like my wordplay? :c So you are wrong. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: Space-Wizard said: Wordplay doesn't work when it comes to systems. If we're arguing based on Myerr-Briggs, judging does not have the definition it tends to have when we argue based on something that isn't Myerr-Briggs.You don't like my wordplay? :c So you are wrong. My wordplay was vague and based in subjective abstractions instead of the scientific method, just like MB categorization, so I argue that it's perfectly applicable when discussing such tests, in the same way dream meanings, gut-feelings and fortune cookies are relevant to astrology. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
| It's too bad you can't possibly get out of being "wrong" when I just told you why you were "wrong" and you didn't actually answer that. If in my debate I define "cock" as "rooster", you can't tell me "Hey, but cock also means penis why not use rooster?", nobody cares, MB means megabyte, why are you using it for Myerr-Briggs? In Myerr-Briggs, judging does not mean the same thing it means outside of Myerr-Briggs, even if it's not based on the scientific method, that doesn't mean anything. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| ISTP |
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| SW am I right in guessing you as an ENFP? |
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Immahnoob said: It's too bad you can't possibly get out of being "wrong" when I just told you why you were "wrong" and you didn't actually answer that. If in my debate I define "cock" as "rooster", you can't tell me "Hey, but cock also means penis why not use rooster?", nobody cares, MB means megabyte, why are you using it for Myerr-Briggs? In Myerr-Briggs, judging does not mean the same thing it means outside of Myerr-Briggs, even if it's not based on the scientific method, that doesn't mean anything. You still haven't rebutted my initial points as to you proving yourself being J and F, so it doesn't matter that you've said I'm wrong. I call my dick "rooster tuesday", your arguments are so easily toppled. And actually, MB in computer-speak refers to the motherboard and not mega bits. You try to argue without science on your side? I don't understand. Baileyy said: SW am I right in guessing you as an ENFP? Yeah probably, I don't really like this categorical system though, I don't think it's complex enough to define human beings, and some people have traits that don't fit into it. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Baileyy said: He'd fit that.SW am I right in guessing you as an ENFP? Space-Wizard said: The burden of proof is on you, mein nigghrer.You still haven't rebutted my initial points as to you proving yourself being J and F, so it doesn't matter that you've said I'm wrong. Space-Wizard said: MB stands for megabyte, motherboards are called mobos if you want a less lengthy version. I call my dick "rooster tuesday", your arguments are so easily toppled. And actually, MB in computer-speak refers to the motherboard and not mega bits. Ok, your dick is now called "Rooster tuesday", so what does rooster tuesday have to do with your argument? How is it relevant to Myerr-Briggs? Space-Wizard said: Semantics, my poor little boy. You try to argue without science on your side? I don't understand. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Space-Wizard said: I definitely agree with you. But it's accuracy is present to a certain extent. It's just a bit of fun, I suppose.Baileyy said: SW am I right in guessing you as an ENFP? Yeah probably, I don't really like this categorical system though, I don't think it's complex enough to define human beings, and some people have traits that don't fit into it. |
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Immahnoob said: You misinterpret each acronym's meaning at this point though. I thought my ISTJ meant Intelligent Super Tough Jazzmen |
Aria-da-Capo said: Fuck, nigga, how did you know?Immahnoob said: You misinterpret each acronym's meaning at this point though. I thought my ISTJ meant Intelligent Super Tough Jazzmen |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: The burden of proof is on you, mein nigghrer. I could say "tu quoque" or I could say "no u", whichever sounds better to you. Immahnoob said: Ok, your dick is now called "Rooster tuesday", so what does rooster tuesday have to do with your argument? How is it relevant to Myerr-Briggs? You brought up cocks and roosters m8 Immahnoob said: Semantics, my poor little boy. Semantics, a social science. Does not follow the scientific method. Is not science. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Baileyy said: Space-Wizard said: I definitely agree with you. But it's accuracy is present to a certain extent. It's just a bit of fun, I suppose.Yeah probably, I don't really like this categorical system though, I don't think it's complex enough to define human beings, and some people have traits that don't fit into it. yeah it's fun, I just get worked up about it sometimes because I've known people who make important life decisions based off of this shit. It's almost as bad as astrology. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Space-Wizard said: You're saying that what I said is evidence of your claims, but you're not explaining how although I knew it too and accepted to debunk it, I already refuted it by telling you that the way you interpret the meaning of the acronyms is wrong, you didn't bring a new argument. So it is your turn.I could say "tu quoque" or I could say "no u", whichever sounds better to you. Space-Wizard said: But you're taking it out of context. See below. You brought up cocks and roosters m8 Space-Wizard said: Strawman, as I never said it does, it doesn't matter if it does though, in debates we tend to have the chance to define our words, and in scientific articles, those that write them also define their words. Funny world, isn't it?Semantics, a social science. Does not follow the scientific method. Is not science. It doesn't matter how much you act like you don't understand what's going on, I have a certain trait called "stubbornness" to my personality. It makes me great in battles of attrition. Space-Wizard said: I do that daily, continue please. people who make important life decisions based off of this shit. It's almost as bad as astrology. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Stubbornness is a trait associated primarily with NFJs. |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Space-Wizard said: Yes, that I agree with that too. Making judgements based off MBTI personalities is dumb.Baileyy said: I definitely agree with you. But it's accuracy is present to a certain extent. It's just a bit of fun, I suppose. yeah it's fun, I just get worked up about it sometimes because I've known people who make important life decisions based off of this shit. It's almost as bad as astrology. |
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Space-Wizard said: I never disagreed on the matter that Myerr-Briggs is not taking into consideration every variable. I think most tests do claim that themselves, that you might have traits from others as these tests are not as accurate as they could be.Stubbornness is a trait associated primarily with NFJs. Although, "stubbornness" might have been the wrong word for it, considering you don't really have good reasons for me to change my position either. As I said, don't take it literally, it won't help your argument when you know that I mean something else. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Surprised by how many ENTPs we have :o I, myself, an am INFP |
| "I'm gonna make you bleed like me!" Characterization Society Discord |
BadMediaKarma said: Yay, we can be brothers. = w =Surprised by how many ENTPs we have :o I, myself, an am INFP |
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Baileyy said: You're ENTP, Harems? BadMediaKarma said: Yay, we can be brothers. = w =Surprised by how many ENTPs we have :o I, myself, an am INFP No wonder you're a shitposter. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: I'm INFP, do you read?Baileyy said: You're ENTP, Harems? Yay, we can be brothers. = w = No wonder you're a shitposter. |
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Immahnoob said: Space-Wizard said: I never disagreed on the matter that Myerr-Briggs is not taking into consideration every variable. I think most tests do claim that themselves, that you might have traits from others as these tests are not as accurate as they could be.Stubbornness is a trait associated primarily with NFJs. Although, "stubbornness" might have been the wrong word for it, considering you don't really have good reasons for me to change my position either. As I said, don't take it literally, it won't help your argument when you know that I mean something else. As I can say the same things to you, that your reasoning is shit and that you constantly pretend to take something literally when you know I mean something else, our conclusions are exactly the same. If we were the only people to take a poll, and there were two poll options, and one option was the conclusion we make in this argument(A), and the other option was something else(B), the poll would turn out A-2 B-0. This is interesting. Unrelatedly, this test is definitely severely flawed as nobody seems to be testing S |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Space-Wizard said: Not really, I used "" to signify it's not the same word but a replacer. "" isn't only used for quotes (it has other uses too).As I can say the same things to you, that your reasoning is shit and that you constantly pretend to take something literally when you know I mean something else, our conclusions are exactly the same. I don't have the knowledge of a term that means "stubborn" but because of a "good reason", being "stubborn" tends to mean that you're not changing your position although there's a "good reason" to change it. Space-Wizard said: Bandwagons don't prove arguments. If we were the only people to take a poll, and there were two poll options, and one option was the conclusion we make in this argument(A), and the other option was something else(B), the poll would turn out A-2 B-0. This is interesting. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Omega said: Got ISTJ. good timing |
xEmptiness said: "if we follow what SW is suggesting, nihilism is the conclusion" |
Baileyy said: No, I didn't find your initial post (or didn't even try that hard) and didn't really care.Immahnoob said: I'm INFP, do you read?You're ENTP, Harems? No wonder you're a shitposter. I'll check how INFPs are. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: read the bold textBaileyy said: No, I didn't find your initial post (or didn't even try that hard) and didn't really care.I'm INFP, do you read? I'll check how INFPs are. |
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Baileyy said: That's because I've read it as "Surprised by how many ENTPs we have ;o, I myself am one." instead of actually seeing INFP. I make mistakes too.read the bold text |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| long, long ago, our personality listing threads had polls INTP |
Immahnoob said: The reason why you lose so many arguments is because you get ahead of yourself.Baileyy said: That's because I've read it as "Surprised by how many ENTPs we have ;o, I myself am one." instead of actually seeing INFP. I make mistakes too.read the bold text |
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| ENTP through and through lmao |
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Baileyy said: I don't lose many arguments though, that's wrong. This was a casual conversation, not an argument.Immahnoob said: The reason why you lose so many arguments is because you get ahead of yourself.That's because I've read it as "Surprised by how many ENTPs we have ;o, I myself am one." instead of actually seeing INFP. I make mistakes too. |
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Immahnoob said: You do, and I was talking about in general. Making people leave because of frustration isn't winning...Baileyy said: I don't lose many arguments though, that's wrong. This was a casual conversation, not an argument.The reason why you lose so many arguments is because you get ahead of yourself. |
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Immahnoob said: Baileyy said: I don't lose many arguments though, that's wrong. This was a casual conversation, not an argument.The reason why you lose so many arguments is because you get ahead of yourself. i am sorry to come into your conversation like this but most people just give up talking to you. that's not necessarily winning an argument you know. |
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| I'm sorry but that's irrelevant to my argument being correct or not. It's quite simple, guys. If X is 2 and you claim that X is 1. Saying "You frustrate me, that means you didn't win, X is not 2.", won't make X not be 2. |
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Immahnoob said: They leave because you don't ever provide arguments. So it's never really an argument to begin with. It's like someone attempting to converse with a wall, only to realise that it's not capable of replying.I'm sorry but that's irrelevant to my argument being correct or not. It's quite simple, guys. If X is 2 and you claim that X is 1. Saying "You frustrate me, that means you didn't win, X is not 2.", won't make X not be 2. |
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