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shiniangie said: It is not that I dislike Yuusuke, but he was a self-absorbed ungrateful teen, who only played games all day (nothing against gamer community - I quite like you, guys), and did not appreciate the life that was granted to him. On top of that he caused pain to the woman who gave her all for him, despite not being his biological mother AND caused further suffering and shame to his adoptive family by committing suicide. He also admitted he himself had no idea why. And personally, for me, suicide is the easy way out. To quote: "It is easy to die, when you do not want to live; it is much harder to continue living when life seems unbearable." Anyway, I suspect that if things are as they are, the suicidal teen went to Heaven, because in Japanese culture it was considered a noble act in the past. But personally, I would have made them play at least one more game, before deciding. 1. woah just woah, if you ever had experienced having a mother/father/sister/brother/child/lover go through a depression, you might have the ability to have sympathy for people being in there worse possible state. 2. There are no heaven and hell, it is actually void and reincarnation, the boy aren't rewarded for committing suicide, he is being reincarnated because there are actual hope for a better outcome for the soul. 3. I would probably drop the whole system, heck there aren't even any meaning in just doing this if two people die at the same time. - We get it now the system is broken, I hope they are gonna start moving out of this episodic bartender stuff in the next episode, cause it simply don't work well when you know the system doesn't work and there aren't really any good explanation yet for why it is taking place. |
GoMarcia said: Why has the woman been sent to hell? I don't get it |
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| Lol, to think I was just playing USF4 before watching this. Not sure how the fuck people wonder why the woman was sent to hell, are you guys forgetting that what happens there is also used for judgement? She fucking tried to kill the guy, on top of the way she was which wasn't good at all. |
| This series is getting a little stuck and the episodes repeat themselves. I hope there's something more coming in the future than these cames. The deeper purpose of the whole thing for example, or some reincarnation? |
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| I still think people are ignoring the fact that one of the scenarios was brought upon a child without any of it being his fault as soon as he was born and growing up to be a weak person -he easily could of been better and I don't think his issues are good enough for him to be so pathetic, but its stlll not as bad as the woman- and a fully functioning teenager who got hooked up with a douche bag and continued to date assholes as an adult having kids with all of them. One abusive husband? Sure. Two? Okay maybe. Three? Highly unlikely to not involve her having a bad taste in men, hell she might have even brought it out of them. Her stats clearly indicate her best power is seduction, and based on how she was in the game she is obviously a manipulative person and was wrapping the otaku around her finger. Hey maybe her kids would like her better if her hobby instead of being -SHOPPING- was not taking them for granted and raising them-No seriously, if she's so busy with work that she cant take care of her kids, why is her hobby shopping?-. Man everyone around her was miserable. Her kids, her manager, her husbands. Look at the first marriage, the dude didn't look like he wanted to get married while she had that huge grin on her face, she probably forced him into marrying her because he got her pregnant-which is both their faults for having sex unprotected when they barely knew each other- and he probably kicked her ass because he was miserable being with her manipulations and he seemed like a pathetic thug too so I'm not surprised. I could understand not liking the guy either, I sure don't, but to act like its confusing why she went to hell is beyond my understanding. It should of been her, or both of then. That is all mostly ignoring what even happened in the game/judging. When you add what happened in the game, if the roles were reversed and a guy was smashing some chicks head into that gaming machine until she was knocked out or needed medical attention, regardless of any back story, nobody would be questioning why he went to hell. Then you add the whole part where one's regret was clear, and the other is so loose that it can be argued if she really learned to care for her children or not, its a no contest. |
EpicenterJan 31, 2015 1:46 PM
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| I really don't understand why the boy got reincarnation. Sure he didn't do as many bad things as the woman, but I feel like if he chose to end his own life when he does get reincarnated he might just go down the same path if he ends up in a similar situation. His childhood was shitty, however his father seemed caring from the flashbacks as did his new step-mother. I feel he should have entered the void. I know that the woman in this show did some terrible things, but after being beaten by boyfriends/lovers over and over it must have a huge effect on someone's personality. The man in the OVA who talked about how 'unfair' life was got to be reincarnated, why not the mother as well? She had to go through a whole heck of a lot more than most people and she was raising a family by herself. |
| Stop the filler please. It's getting boring. |
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| Is anyone reminded of Kate Gosselin while watching this episode? The woman screams of her. |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| I was ready to drop the show after this week. This episode redeemed it slightly, but only because I'm a gaming nerd. Lets see if it improves. The ruling this time is shit. Pathetic Otaku boy is treated well by a caring family, but is so whiney and useless he takes his own life. I say he deserves the void. And yet the abused/abusive mother who no-one showed any kindness to lived life to the fullest fighting tooth and claw gets the short end of the stick instead. From the sounds of some of the comments on this board, if a woman doesn't devote her entire existence to loving and looking after her kids 24/7 and nothing else then she's a selfish failure. Nice. |
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poptartnyan said: I really don't understand why the boy got reincarnation. Sure he didn't do as many bad things as the woman, but I feel like if he chose to end his own life when he does get reincarnated he might just go down the same path if he ends up in a similar situation. His childhood was shitty, however his father seemed caring from the flashbacks as did his new step-mother. I feel he should have entered the void. I know that the woman in this show did some terrible things, but after being beaten by boyfriends/lovers over and over it must have a huge effect on someone's personality. The man in the OVA who talked about how 'unfair' life was got to be reincarnated, why not the mother as well? She had to go through a whole heck of a lot more than most people and she was raising a family by herself. She didn't show regret for her action, she choose everyone of her partners, and after child number one, there really wasn't any reason for her to repeat getting pregnant. She also showed quite the darkness in the game, and in every situation in her memories. It is also important to remember this isn't about judging your sins, else there would be no reason for the games, since the arbiter can see the dead people past and therefor sins. The arbiter serve to judge the character of the soul, and if they are worth reincarnation. She didn't show her soul being able to do it better the second time, so reincarnation could actually be considered hell, for someone who will repeat the same mistake. The boy on the other hand showed a soul that have learned from its mistake, and would therefor not repeat the same cycle. |
| Decim ponders about his decisions, but sometimes I think the writers of the show themselfs have it confused. I know the woman slammed the guy's face on the game screen, but can we think for a while about how she turned to be the person she was: First she was a foolish teen who was deceived, ended up marrying forcefully with the douche that got her pregnant, the guy used to beat her up without even minding the kids around, then he leaves her with the kids alone. It was obvious that she got dependant on sex and relationships to make herself feel better that's why she never stopped being a fool and ended up again with a scumbag who would hit her, just have sex and leave her alone. One pivotal point here is that she NEVER, NEVER left her kids no matter what, she actually tried her hardest to feed them all give them education. She loved them. She might have regretted having them at some point in her life since well, she's a human and the conditions she had them were pretty shitty, but she still lived to be a mother even with a fucked up mentality. She couldn't afford to die now that she finally had a chance to make their life better, that's why she did what she did with him. Her circumstances made her manipulative, foolish and egoistic woman she was. The guy clearly never recovered from his family situation, his depression crippled himself to the point he just wanted to die, and that's what he did with his life; he ended it. However, he had a loving father and a stepmother who was doing what she could to be accepted by him. He clearly got his chance to recover from his shitty situation far earlier than Misaki. His blood mom was a thing of the past long ago, he had a new family and they wanted the best for him. If anything nobody would have gotten the void, they were both victim of third partie's actions that made their characters the way they were. I know these "faulty" (in my view) decisions are probably made for Decim to develop as a character, but still pretty jarring. |
| >User since 2008 Please god help me quit this website. Such great community that doesn't even know how demographics work, AND gives """detailed"""" reviews after first episodes. |
| With the logic some of you guys bring to defend the woman you might as well defend serial killers and rapers if they had a shitty life. |
| eh... i just realized i have no sympathy for those who suicide. the woman on the other hand, married some guy after high school, had a fall out, now as a single parent forced to work as a hostess for her 2 kids. she then had a new relationship with a customer, which too ended leaving her in total with 5 kids, whom she supported on her own from beginning to end. i don't care how little attention she gave them. when you're swamped in debt, struggling to survive, attention and 'love' is a luxury. till the end, she never left them, so even if she wasn't a 'loving' mother, she was still a parent that provided them a roof over their heads. contrast this to the guy's mother who left him. so, no matter how much of a bitch she comes off as, i say it's a personality that develops having to fend off as a single mother raising and feeding 5 mouths. the guy on the other hand seems to be just a neet who didnt amount to anything after his parents divorced and left him. sad, yes, but the woman made the best with her situation. way more commendable imo. |
KurogashiJan 31, 2015 5:06 PM
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| I actually cried in this episode... I believe the guy was reincarnated because even if he was useless to society before he regretted his actions and the way he behaved while he lived.. also depression is a thing you all seem not to know about and you don't have to have a tragic past to have depression. The girl didn't really regret her actions just that she died. She didn't regret treating people badly, I feel sorry for the things that happened to her but she shouldn't treated people the same way. I don't think having a bad life excuses one's actions. She didn't even apologize to the dude when he woke up for knocking him out. |
grumpytoastJan 31, 2015 5:24 PM
RusAnon said: Vanisher said: With the logic some of you guys bring to defend the woman you might as well defend serial killers and rapers if they had a shitty life. This. Being abused doesn't give you free pass to abuse others. And its clear insult to everyone out there, who had hard life too, but kept being decent human. Exactly. These people are judged based on the color of their soul anyways, not on whether or not their darkness was a result of other people's actions. Plenty of people have had a much shittier life than her, while becoming much better people. The fact she was constantly hit by someone stronger than her does not give her the right to constantly hit someone weaker than her. The exact opposite, actually; it means she knew exactly how she was making the other person feel, and acted like that anyways. She was a sociopath, plain and simple. She exploited her kids for personal fame while largely neglecting them, and berating them whenever they weren't being useful enough to her. And it's generally considered bad if your first reaction to any sort of problem is immediate violence and homicide. |
| Such an emotional episode -_- |
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| In this anime each episode can shake the person watching, the plot brings up all the pain and sadness to depart and leave regrets, and also how difficult it is to judge a person Even with the gloomy weather, the scenery is still engaging, and the stories presented are very good, sure already among the best anime of the season .. |
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Azrael_STX said: These people are judged based on the color of their soul anyways, not on whether or not their darkness was a result of other people's actions. Plenty of people have had a much shittier life than her, while becoming much better people. The fact she was constantly hit by someone stronger than her does not give her the right to constantly hit someone weaker than her. The exact opposite, actually; it means she knew exactly how she was making the other person feel, and acted like that anyways. She was a sociopath, plain and simple. She exploited her kids for personal fame while largely neglecting them, and berating them whenever they weren't being useful enough to her. And it's generally considered bad if your first reaction to any sort of problem is immediate violence and homicide. Totally agree minus calling her a sociopath(you were probably making a point) since she was a emotional wreck, I think it's really spot on. |
| people keep asking why that chick went to the void, hell, whatever. . . . . . . .I gotta say, from the very beginning she seemed like a complete attention whore to me and I didn't like her at all. She was about to be happy because having 5 kids got her a TV show. That's the same shit people try to do here in the States She was a satire of the Duggars and all those other twats with ridiculously large familes that get checks from the former "learning channel". the hikkikomori. . . ..wait, was he definitely a hikkikomori? We don't get enough information about him, except that he's a child of divorce |
Awry said: Damn .. I want to see a game with two males already... (Best friends) yea now that you mention it |
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| the woman seemed selfish even as she realized she was dead. that little bit of guilt at the end was sadness from never reaching happiness. She didn't even feel regret for acting on brute force so often. On the other hand, the dude made some bad choices and isolated himself but he really felt sorry at the end. |
Now, I wonder if we'll get an episode of pitting best friends or siblings against each other... that would be interesting to watch. This show has so much potential so I hope to see it live up to my expectations. |
MirorinFeb 1, 2015 12:11 AM
sankakusong said: grumpytoast said: The girl didn't really regret her actions just that she died. She didn't regret treating people badly, I feel sorry for the things that happened to her but she shouldn't treated people the same way. I don't think having a bad life excuses one's actions. She didn't even apologize to the dude when he woke up for knocking him out. Apologizing to someone just after realizing that you're already dead isn't something that I would expect to happen. Especially if you're more concerned about your children that you have just left in the living world. RusAnon said: This. Being abused doesn't give you free pass to abuse others. And its clear insult to everyone out there, who had hard life too, but kept being decent human. I consider it as a consequence of having a horrible shitty life rather than a free pass. It's just that people are different and react to hardships in different ways. Like the difference between the woman who adapted a horrible personality after what shes been through and the otaku who fell into depression and committed suicide. Did I just see her getting compared to a serial killer and rapist? really? A serial killer doesn't call an ambulance after thinking that they have just killed someone and rape is giving in to lust and temptation more than anything else. Bottom line is the mother still cared deeply for her children knowing that their life was just getting better after landing a good job otherwise she wouldn't have even mentioned them when she desperately wanted to be returned. She just wanted to have a good functional family but life is unfair just as Decim said and that's what turned her into a person that she is. Well she cared for her children too late. I disagree. I do not agree with the fact that a person gets a pass just because they did it for the greater good. For example, Breaking Bad (excellent series), the main character became a drug lord and killed people for his family. Was he excused? NO. This lady in episode 4. Bashed the otaku's head on the screen with the intent of maiming him, or possibly killing him so she can survive a percieved idea of a death game. But it's ok right?, it's for her family, she gets a free pass for hurting a human being for the greater good. Do you see the BS in that?. Everything in life comes with consequences. When someone kills a human being to protect a loved one, they are still a murderer. When someone sells drugs to make money for their family, they are still criminals. This women didn't get a free pass because she was just demented inside-out. Sure the abuse made her that way, but everything that happened after that abuse is her fault. No one to blame but her. She slapped her assistant? It's ok she was abused by men in her life so please forgive her. Yeah right, the assistant killed her for that and probably for years of pent up anger. Do you understand what I'm saying? |
http://www.deathparade.jp/introduction/words.html Words 02 - Reincarnation and the Void These are where souls that have been judged go. Once the deceased have been judged after playing one of many games, they are escorted to two side-by-side doors, each containing a customers-only elevator leading to reincarnation or the void. The "White Noh Mask" and the "Hannya Mask" are displayed above the elevator doors, and reveal where the souls are headed. Once the souls of the deceased have made their journey, their bodies take the form of dolls. Those who are reincarnated may live anew in the present day, but those sent to the void are cast into the graveyard of souls. Souls cast into the Void are left with their negative emotions and consciousness intact, and remain in nothingness for all eternity. Can anyone confirm that this is legit translation? |
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| The scene where Decim is consoling the two had some feels in it. A much better episode than the last one. |
| I think this week episode resemble Death Billiards a lot. At first I thought both of them will sent into the void (with what misaki did before she died and Yousuke also waste his life doing a suicide.) But yousuke sent into reincarnation and misaki into the void. By the way I'm glad we are going to see the other member next week |
| wow we only got to know those 2, yet it was so emotional...well played death parade |
| The ending was sad. While the woman had an harsh life at the beginning, she then went by the usual treating others bad and not caring for others (she realized very late how much her children were important). While the man, the only bad thing that he did was not accepting his mother in law. Waiting for one episode were they both go to hell. |
| fairly confronting there. |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| At the end, with the crying scene, the woman was faking it. She's an actress after all. She also knows all about sucking up to 'higher ups' like the arbiter. The nerd guy's case was too simple, but it reminds me of irl japanese otakus and the many suicides happening in that demographic. lots of cyberbulling too. This episode made me think about the annoying that is the RNG of life. i have this urge to make those who are favored by RNG to suffer, including myself. |
| wow the feel is so strong this ep dont know if such life can be considered as well done xD |
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| Yousuke's story hit me really badly and I'm so relieved to know that a fictional character go reincarnated for some reason. |
| It's amazing that an episode can be so emotional even though the characters were just introduced. Out of all the episodes this one was the best until now. I felt sorry for both . Next time it seems we will see a child/teenager (i hope so)? |
| Days need to be longer. 24 hours isn't enough ... |
| what an episode... i cried along with them ;_; Life is always unfair... and we can only accept it. Why did the guy commit suicide though? |
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Soren333 said: Stop the filler please. It's getting boring. >filler >original anime Are you retarded? Episodic shows clearly aren't for you. Don't try Mushishi, it might kill you. |
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bastek66 said: Soren333 said: Stop the filler please. It's getting boring. >filler >original anime Are you retarded? Episodic shows clearly aren't for you. Don't try Mushishi, it might kill you. lol that was really funny XD |
| Another amazing episode. Just like previously said by me and some other users, the games in this series are just a way for the players to exert their most inner emotions and show their "true colors". In a way, the arbiters could have picked a different method of probing out emotions, but instead we have this, and thus we have Death Parade. |
| Great episode. Look forward to seeing more episodes just as depressing as this. I love the pacing over each episode. Looks like we'll be seeing more characters working around being introduced next ep! |
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