UROBUCHI SPEAKS OUT ABOUT EPISODE 12!!!

chickenonthepan said:
From Animesuki forum

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-27068.html


虚淵氏「アルドノアのラストは俺のせいじゃねぇーからっ」「原案ではイナホと姫は恋仲になり姫がスレインに 連れ去られて1話が終わる話だった」

先にいっとくとサイコパス２期で誰か死んでも俺のせいじゃねぇから！冲方さんだから！」　

He said that:

Urobuchi Gen: "Aldnoah's final episode isn't my fault." "In my original scenario, the final episode saw Inaho and Asseylum 'becoming lovers' before she gets taken away by Slaine."

The Psycho-Pass thing is also about how whatever happens is not his fault - it's Ubukata's.

Well, isn't that basically what happened?

This new writer just want to dramatize things and create cliffhanger...

I can guarantee that both Inaho and Asseylum is alive.

ScazoN said:
Inko x Inaho ?

Mariola-chan said:
What like what can this couple even exist from a logical point of view/ Maybe if Inaho had a different personality, maybe if their interactions would be different throughout the anime, but, but...
This so doesn't make sense, I don't wanna know anything else.

Darklight0303 said:


Dead in the water

chickenonthepan said:


It's the new writer's fault.

If Gen wrote this himself, it would be different...

chickenonthepan said:


It's the new writer's fault.

If Gen wrote this himself, it would be different...

chickenonthepan said:


It's the new writer's fault.

If Gen wrote this himself, it would be different...

chickenonthepan said:

He said that:

Urobuchi Gen: "Aldnoah's final episode isn't my fault." "In my original scenario, the final episode saw Inaho and Asseylum 'becoming lovers' before she gets taken away by Slaine."

L3gEnDaRy said:
Hopefully Inaho is alive and will kick Slaine's ass

L3gEnDaRy said:
Hopefully Inaho is alive and will kick Slaine's ass

TheIMF said:


Inaho had it coming. If someone betrayed you after you helped them out at great personal risk and you're tortured half to death as a result, surely you'd be justified in killing the mofo?

TheIMF said:


Inaho had it coming. If someone betrayed you after you helped them out at great personal risk and you're tortured half to death as a result, surely you'd be justified in killing the mofo?

orithyea said:
Just to make it clearer this roughly says: "If you're ahead [of Psycho Pass], it is not my fault if someone also dies in Psycho Pass 2! It is Ubukata-san's."

chickenonthepan said:

This new writer just want to dramatize things and create cliffhanger...

I can guarantee that both Inaho and Asseylum are alive.

chickenonthepan said:
From Animesuki forum

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-27068.html


虚淵氏「アルドノアのラストは俺のせいじゃねぇーからっ」「原案ではイナホと姫は恋仲になり姫がスレインに 連れ去られて1話が終わる話だった」

先にいっとくとサイコパス２期で誰か死んでも俺のせいじゃねぇから！冲方さんだから！」　

He said that:

Urobuchi Gen: "Aldnoah's final episode isn't my fault." "In my original scenario, the final episode saw Inaho and Asseylum 'becoming lovers' before she gets taken away by Slaine."

"If you're ahead [of Psycho Pass], it is not my fault if someone also dies in Psycho Pass 2! It is Ubukata-san's."

Well, isn't that basically what happened?

This new writer just want to dramatize things and create cliffhanger...

I can guarantee that both Inaho and Asseylum are alive.

Also, stop blaming Gen for this. His ending is way more optimistic...

TheIMF said:


Inaho had it coming. If someone betrayed you after you helped them out at great personal risk and you're tortured half to death as a result, surely you'd be justified in killing the mofo?

deadoptimist said:
My sympathies nonwithstanding, it doesn't make sense. Previously he said that he didn't introduce Inaho and that he didn't feel involved in his character. Why would he concern himself with pairing for Inaho in such a case?
This feels like a cheap attention grab.
And I am happy that they didn't go with his vision. I dislike Inaho x Asseylum pairing. But even if I liked it, I don't watch this series for love drama.

This series is a trainwreck as far as scenario goes. Fishy ressurections, cliffhangers for the sake of cliffhangers, poor characterisation. The ending was one of the best things they've done so far. At least it provided development and actual consequences.
I hope that the feedback will make them think about being more thorough with the writing. Though it is unlikely - they get enough attention as it is.
If they resurrect both Inaho and Asseylum, that will be really low. And sad, because there're many interesting ways to continue the story without them, or at least one of them.

alchem1485 said:
Okay, I have heard that Urobuchi write the first 3 and the last 3 of second season right? If so, it's confirmed both princess and Inaho alive

Aozumi said:
personally I don't think I would have been pleased if it ended with Inaho x Asseylum

as much as I like Inaho it would be so out of place given how much Slaine suffered when trying to search/save her and it has been implied so much he loves her that just nope

furthermore, the only moment Asseylum showed herself this kind of "affection" towards Inaho was in that last episode at the end, same goes for Inaho when he tried to reach her after she was shot

so yeah, it would feel incredibly out of place if it ended like that honestly, like the whole story was a pure joke :/ (I mean, what would be the point in creating Slaine in that case?)

AntonyRedgrave said:
Yeah but the last episode made it hard to actually make a 2nd season, if they are both dead then what will the 2nd season be about: if Slaine is the new mc, then a lot will drop it, if it's about how Earth gets overtaken that could be wrapped in a few OVAs, if the both survived that's pretty much illogical (getting shot in the head is quite lethal if you ask me :D) this ending just doesn't fit for a 2 season anime at all imo.

chickenonthepan said:

Urobuchi Gen: "Aldnoah's final episode isn't my fault." "In my original scenario, the final episode saw Inaho and Asseylum 'becoming lovers' before she gets taken away by Slaine."

chickenonthepan said:
From Animesuki forum

Well, isn't that basically what happened?

This new writer just want to dramatize things and create cliffhanger...

I can guarantee that both Inaho and Asseylum are alive.

Aozumi said:
personally I don't think I would have been pleased if it ended with Inaho x Asseylum

as much as I like Inaho it would be so out of place given how much Slaine suffered when trying to search/save her and it has been implied so much he loves her that just nope

furthermore, the only moment Asseylum showed herself this kind of "affection" towards Inaho was in that last episode at the end, same goes for Inaho when he tried to reach her after she was shot

so yeah, it would feel incredibly out of place if it ended like that honestly, like the whole story was a pure joke :/ (I mean, what would be the point in creating Slaine in that case?)

deadoptimist said:
My sympathies nonwithstanding, it doesn't make sense. Previously he said that he didn't introduce Inaho and that he didn't feel involved in his character. Why would he concern himself with pairing for Inaho in such a case?
This feels like a cheap attention grab.
And I am happy that they didn't go with his vision. I dislike Inaho x Asseylum pairing. But even if I liked it, I don't watch this series for love drama.

This series is a trainwreck as far as scenario goes. Fishy ressurections, cliffhangers for the sake of cliffhangers, poor characterisation. The ending was one of the best things they've done so far. At least it provided development and actual consequences.
I hope that the feedback will make them think about being more thorough with the writing. Though it is unlikely - they get enough attention as it is.
If they resurrect both Inaho and Asseylum, that will be really low. And sad, because there're many interesting ways to continue the story without them, or at least one of them.

chickenonthepan said:


Urobuchi laid out the scenario. It simply means that he made the grand plot, like how the story starts and how it ends, major plot twists...

The characterizations and smaller plots are left open for the other writer to develop. Gen doesn't write the script for every episode. The new writer can change the details if he wants.

I think I address this before but none seems to listen.

And I think the new writer still stick to Gen's frame work. Inaho and Asseylum are indeed have feeling for each other. The term "become lover" here is "they realize they love each other, but doesn't do anything about that yet" if translated correctly. And fact is, Slaine does take Asseylum away.

So I have no doubt that this writer will continue to follow Gen's scenario to the end. He will continue to add his cheap twist and cliffhanger for sure. But I think he is not creative enough to go for a whole new route.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Well it kind of is his fault because he didn't stay to make sure things turned out the way he planned. If you're going to just leave a project in the middle of things you don't really get to step back and pass judgement, likewise with Psycho Pass 2, he just up and left so passing judgement seems kind of arrogant to me at least.

TheIMF said:
Inaho x Asseylum is whack.

Darklight0303 said:


It didn't sound to me like he was passing judgment. More like he was letting the fans know that they shouldn't point their pitchforks at him for any deaths in these two series

chickenonthepan said:
Urobuchi laid out the scenario. It simply means that he made the grand plot, like how the story starts and how it ends, major plot twists...

The characterizations and smaller plots are left open for the other writer to develop. Gen doesn't write the script for every episode. The new writer can change the details if he wants.

I think I address this before but none seems to listen.

And I think the new writer still sticks to Gen's frame work. Inaho and Asseylum are indeed have feeling for each other. The term "become lover" here is that "they realize they love each other, but don't do anything about that yet" if translated correctly. And fact is, Slaine does take Asseylum away.

So I have no doubt that this writer will continue to follow Gen's scenario to the end. He will continue to add his cheap twist and cliffhanger for sure. But I think he is not creative enough to go for a whole new route.

deadoptimist said:


I'm sorry, but that doesn't address my point. In the previous interview that was quoted here Urobuchi said, that Inaho had been introduced based on the design and that he could offer no insights in his character. Doesn't that mean that his idea for the plot didn't include Inaho?
Now he says that his version of the ending was focused around Inaho and Asseylum's love story.
It doesn't tie together very well. Now, I understand that the writing process for anime and for Aldnoah especially seems to be a collective and kinda disjointed effort, but still building lovestories for a character who you don't want even to discuss is wrong.

chickenonthepan said:


Pretty much this. But he unintentionally spoil out important details. :P

Keten said:
Hmm... So Urobuchi did technically write the basic scenarios for everything? Twists and such... So he wrote the whole convenient arm hitting entrance to dock thing? Also the whole, Inaho not picking up Slaine after shooting him down just for the sake of making the plot go on longer?

How much exactly did he outline... I know he wrote the first 3 episodes but he apparently did do the outline for the rest of it, were those his fault?

Either way, characterization was never his strong point anyway... If he was in charge of characters, they might not be as bad as they were but they would not be much better in all honesty... Plus, the episodes he did write weren't good either, they were just as bad as the rest of it in my eyes.

Whether he wrote the ending or not, it's still silly for him to think we'd care about their relationship. I was actually laughing when Inaho was remembering the scenes he had together with her, like, all 5 of them and NONE were even remotely romantic in the least. They made that legit CPR scene into a romantic kiss in his head. It was really awkward. None of the characters had any chemistry with one another.

Also, confirmed by his words that this was supposed to be a NTR mecha series. *facepalm*

Keten said:
Hmm... So Urobuchi did technically write the basic scenarios for everything? Twists and such... So he wrote the whole convenient arm hitting entrance to dock thing? Also the whole, Inaho not picking up Slaine after shooting him down just for the sake of making the plot go on longer?

How much exactly did he outline... I know he wrote the first 3 episodes but he apparently did do the outline for the rest of it, were those his fault?

Either way, characterization was never his strong point anyway... If he was in charge of characters, they might not be as bad as they were but they would not be much better in all honesty... Plus, the episodes he did write weren't good either, they were just as bad as the rest of it in my eyes.

Whether he wrote the ending or not, it's still silly for him to think we'd care about their relationship. I was actually laughing when Inaho was remembering the scenes he had together with her, like, all 5 of them and NONE were even remotely romantic in the least. They made that legit CPR scene into a romantic kiss in his head. It was really awkward. None of the characters had any chemistry with one another.

Also, confirmed by his words that this was supposed to be a NTR mecha series. *facepalm*

Darklight0303 said:

It's only NTR if both characters are already together. Slaine's crush was entirely onesided and never reciprocated by the princess >_>

Keten said:
So he wrote the whole convenient arm hitting entrance to dock thing? Also the whole, Inaho not picking up Slaine after shooting him down just for the sake of making the plot go on longer?

Also, confirmed by his words that this was supposed to be a NTR mecha series. *facepalm*

Darklight0303 said:
One thing i have to wonder is how fierce was the backlash Urobuchi got for Inaho and Asseylum's death that it made him have to tweet this disclaimer.

Keten said:


Considering the episode 12 discussion thread has over 1000 replies, most of which are rage or debates over the rage... I assume it was quite a lot of backlash. xD

Keten said:


Considering the episode 12 discussion thread has over 1000 replies, most of which are rage or debates over the rage... I assume it was quite a lot of backlash. xD