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Aug 16, 2014 5:17 PM
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In modern society we have a bunch of people in their 20s and 30s who continue to live with their parents. On the other hand, their parents started families by the time they reached their 20s or 30s. Why are these people incapable of living independently when they are already adults?

One reason why people are unable to start their own families in their 20s is because they are burdened by student loan debt. They graduated with tens of (sometimes even hundreds of thousands) of dollars of student loan debt that they can't pay off. There is no way they can start their own family, buy a car, buy a house, or live on their own with that much student loan debt, especially if all they are stuck with is a low-paying, minimum wage job. Their inability to pay off a seemingly insurmountable amount of student loan debt is one of the reasons why they can't start their own families and live independently of their parents.

Another reason is because people simply want to mooch off their parents for longer. By your mid to late twenties, you should already have started your only family, but nowadays, these basement-dwellers continue to live off their parents and have not started their own family. They continue to live the easy life of mooching off their parents, because their parents wouldn't kick them out of their house.

Those are my two theories for why there are so many basement dwellers. Does anyone else have a better explanation for why there are so many basement dwellers? I think there needs to be a solution to the current basement-dweller phenomenon. You can't have a society full of people who continue to live with their parents forever.

I'm making this thread because I'm already 24 1/2, and I still haven't started my own family. My dad and mom gave birth to me when they were only 26. I should start my own family by 26 years old, and stop living with my parents by then. I don't care if I finish my university degree or not. University is worthless, in my honest opinion. I just want to start a family by the time I'm 26. Or no later than 30 years old.
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Aug 16, 2014 5:18 PM
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I've been on my own since 18, and it's fucking amazing. Just throwing it out there.
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why are you here
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I've been on my own since 18, and it's fucking amazing. Just throwing it out there.

How old are you now? You sound like Undertakerfreak1127. That kid has been living on his own since high school graduation. He never attended university, and he is doing fine with his girlfriend. He is turning 24 this November.
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DesuMaiden said:
xRatatosk said:
I've been on my own since 18, and it's fucking amazing. Just throwing it out there.

How old are you now? You sound like Undertakerfreak1127. That kid has been living on his own since high school graduation. He never attended university, and he is doing fine with his girlfriend. He is turning 24 this November.


I'm 20.
Aug 16, 2014 5:21 PM
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There are no basements in Los Angeles. The water table is too high.
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Aug 16, 2014 5:21 PM
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Cause these days parents aren't educating their kids properly.
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There are no basements in Los Angeles. The water table is too high.

In case if you didn't know, basement dweller doesn't literally mean you live in the basement. In fact, most "basement-dwellers" don't live in a basement. Basement dweller simply means you are an adult (over the age of 18) who continues to live with his/her parents with no ambitions of contributing to society in a meaningful way.
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First of all, I just want to say that you are not the only one going through this. And am also glad that I'm not the only one going through this. I'm also 24 1/2 and I still live with my parents. I have worked a few casual jobs but I still rely on my parents for day-to-day needs.
I felt the same way as you are, and am planning to kick myself out of my own parents' house when I get the chance.
As you said, I think the reason why many in our generation are still living with our parents is because of the comfort that we get from living with them. We get comfortable as we have been wrapped in cotton wool and bubble-wrap all our lives.
Also, I think it may be because of fear. We are uncertain about what's out there, and we are insecure about the people that we would meet and the situations that we may get ourselves into. This sense of fear and insecurity may be a factor that makes us demotivated to move out.

I was just reading this article last night, which gave me some insight about this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176281/Generation-refuse-grow-No-mortgage-No-marriage-No-children-No-career-plan-Like-30-somethings-Marianne-Power-admits-shes-.html

Hope this helps :D
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git rekt, katsu


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Ontopic: Why are 50% of your threads about basement dwelling - I'll ask again, like I asked on the very first thread you posted here:

Why do you care so much how the people of MAL view your life decisions, why do you turn so heavily towards others to justify how you live your life?

I thought you were planning on becoming a psychology teacher - aren't these questions something you should be asking yourself?



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no ambitions of contributing to society in a meaningful way.
What does it mean by contributing to society? Does making money, then spending it on hookers and drugs count?
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Why are 50% of your threads about basement dwelling?
Because he's a basement dweller himself, obviously. Looking for validation.
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Cause they don't want to fulfill society's expectations and do what they want instead.
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Lime_ said:
Why are 50% of your threads about basement dwelling?
Because he's a basement dweller himself, obviously. Looking for validation.


Yes, I stated that in the following sentence, the former was rhetoric



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A decrease in family based careers might be part of it (no longer do you til your parents farm until it becomes your farm and so on and so forth)

Along with cheaper costs of living (poor living, but still living), it's easier for someone to do nothing...
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I don't know what's worse, being a corporate slave or being a basement dweller.
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I don't know what's worse, being a corporate slave or being a basement dweller.


As long as I can watch my chinese cartoons, and shit-post on an anime forum - does it matter either way? <3



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I don't know what's worse, being a corporate slave or being a basement dweller.
Aren't anime consumers corporate slaves?
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LashLethal said:
I don't know what's worse, being a corporate slave or being a basement dweller.
Aren't anime consumers corporate slaves?
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Aug 16, 2014 5:42 PM

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Lazy and lack of motivation or maybe they live with there parents and go to college at the same time?
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DesuMaiden said:
no ambitions of contributing to society in a meaningful way.
What does it mean by contributing to society? Does making money, then spending it on hookers and drugs count?

Yes it does count as a meaningful contribution to the economy even though it is illegal in many parts of the world.
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I don't want have have my own family, so I plan on living with my parents until they die. It doesn't seem too bad to me.
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why are there so many of YOU in todays society??
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one thing first is I don't believe there is any set standard to life. nobody should have done anything by 20 something especially starting a family, you don't have to start a family at all.

Also is there any wonder why this is happening more and more? there are many reasons working together to create this wave of basement dwellers. One reason would be the past 20 years of targeting nerds and people who are different when they were in school in the 90's/2000's growing up as a group of individuals been told they will never make anything of themselves in life and that been different gets you targeted and what I noticed extra been that society seems to just want you out of the way and not bothering anyone.

Two would be the modern economy, no jobs no employers willing to take on anyone without experience leads to a massive market of people with no work or incapable of getting work well into their twenties. So they head off to university hoping a degree will help them out only to spend 3 years studying something that doesn't help them and ending up in massive debt, usually forced to return to their parents house temporary at first before they fall into an inescapable pattern of only having enough money to survive and pay rent but not get a better job or move out.

These two seem to be the main two reasons but there are plenty of other reasons all piling on top of each other to create the basement trap for this generation of young people. Face it most of us don't have hope anymore, we arn't the go getters the dreamers the motivated. We watch the news we see for ourselves the state of the jobs industry and when all we are told is all we can expect to find is some small minimum wage job to work for the next 50 years then die. Well that kind of thing been re-enforced everywhere we turn starts to wear you down. Eventually you just give up and stay in your parents basement living best you can.

Its a rich tapestry of failure, broken promises from the last generation and no future or hope.

I moved to the city, went to university got an apartment and tried to get a professional career. Now im back home in some little nowhere town living in my parents living room on some cushions. Applying for over 30 jobs every month with only 1 replied in the past 3. Just another example of a future we were promised by others been taken away by government, the modern age and the recession.

Welcome to a world where our generation has no future.
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How the fuck do you afford to live.
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I don't want have have my own family, so I plan on living with my parents until they die. It doesn't seem too bad to me.

Having your own family is kind of irrelevant, people often want to live on their own regardless of that. It's more about having complete control over the way you live.
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DesuMaiden said:
xRatatosk said:
I've been on my own since 18, and it's fucking amazing. Just throwing it out there.

How old are you now? You sound like Undertakerfreak1127. That kid has been living on his own since high school graduation. He never attended university, and he is doing fine with his girlfriend. He is turning 24 this November.


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Cause they don't want to fulfill society's expectations and do what they want instead.


This, who the fuck cares if society doesn't approve of your choices. Gay marriage still isn't approved by society do you really want to become as close minded?
Aug 16, 2014 6:07 PM

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Simple, living with your parents means you don't have to pay any bills. Some of us don't mind living with our parents, even if it means a slight lack of privacy.

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Simple, living with your parents means you don't have to pay any bills. Some of us don't mind living with our parents, even if it means a slight lack of privacy.


It's not so bad for the most part.
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one thing first is I don't believe there is any set standard to life. nobody should have done anything by 20 something especially starting a family, you don't have to start a family at all.

Also is there any wonder why this is happening more and more? there are many reasons working together to create this wave of basement dwellers. One reason would be the past 20 years of targeting nerds and people who are different when they were in school in the 90's/2000's growing up as a group of individuals been told they will never make anything of themselves in life and that been different gets you targeted and what I noticed extra been that society seems to just want you out of the way and not bothering anyone.

Two would be the modern economy, no jobs no employers willing to take on anyone without experience leads to a massive market of people with no work or incapable of getting work well into their twenties. So they head off to university hoping a degree will help them out only to spend 3 years studying something that doesn't help them and ending up in massive debt, usually forced to return to their parents house temporary at first before they fall into an inescapable pattern of only having enough money to survive and pay rent but not get a better job or move out.

These two seem to be the main two reasons but there are plenty of other reasons all piling on top of each other to create the basement trap for this generation of young people. Face it most of us don't have hope anymore, we arn't the go getters the dreamers the motivated. We watch the news we see for ourselves the state of the jobs industry and when all we are told is all we can expect to find is some small minimum wage job to work for the next 50 years then die. Well that kind of thing been re-enforced everywhere we turn starts to wear you down. Eventually you just give up and stay in your parents basement living best you can.

Its a rich tapestry of failure, broken promises from the last generation and no future or hope.

I moved to the city, went to university got an apartment and tried to get a professional career. Now im back home in some little nowhere town living in my parents living room on some cushions. Applying for over 30 jobs every month with only 1 replied in the past 3. Just another example of a future we were promised by others been taken away by government, the modern age and the recession.

Welcome to a world where our generation has no future.

That's the best answer I heard. The reason there are so many basement-dwellers is because it is just too damn difficult to live on your own anymore. There is a lack of good-paying jobs for supporting a family. It is not because most of us don't want to start our own families and live independently from our parents. It is because we simply can't.

I have a friend who is 27 years old, and still lives with his parents because he can't afford to live on his own. He got a degree in music, and he can't find any jobs better than minimum wage jobs. So there is no way he can live on his own. He has to continue living with his parents even though he is already 27.

My parents were born in 1963. I guess it was easier for them to get a good-paying job, and start a family. Which was why they were able to give birth to me at 26 years old.
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I understand wanting to pursue things that you enjoy and that pique your interest

but a lot of people are coming to a harsh realization that the things they enjoy simply don't bring in money - I think it would do a lot of people good to research how viable their career paths are before investing years in an education that will leave you jobless



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DesuMaiden said:

How old are you now? You sound like Undertakerfreak1127. That kid has been living on his own since high school graduation. He never attended university, and he is doing fine with his girlfriend. He is turning 24 this November.


UTF is autistic that is not fine

Where's your proof that UTF1127 is autistic? And how does that matter? Even though he is supposedly autistic, he is still living on his own at the age of 24, whereas most people 24 these days still live with their parents. He started living on his own at a relatively young age compared to most people these days.
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Simply take more risks.
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Simple, living with your parents means you don't have to pay any bills. Some of us don't mind living with our parents, even if it means a slight lack of privacy.

By the time I'm 30, I plan on moving out and living on my own. Ironically, by the time I'm 30, I would probably still be living with my parents. And I would say, "by the time I'm 40, I will be living on my own..."...and I'll probably still be living with my parents by the time I'm 40. I think I'm going to live with my parents until they die. And then I would be forced to live on my own.
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DesuMaiden said:
ComicConReviews said:


UTF is autistic that is not fine

Where's your proof that UTF1127 is autistic? And how does that matter? Even though he is supposedly autistic, he is still living on his own at the age of 24, whereas most people 24 these days still live with their parents. He started living on his own at a relatively young age compared to most people these days.


He made a video about it


Why does it matter, oh trust me it does you ever met someone with ASD. Oh boy they are special.
Anyway he also hates his job and has no motivation to get a better one. You'll have to actually find the video(s) for evidence on that one yourself because I'm not here to do your homework for you, if you look long enough you'll find the proof of this.
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Starting a family in your 20's in pretty early. My parents didn't have me until their 40's.
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Starting a family in your 20's in pretty early. My parents didn't have me until their 40's.

Exactly. If you're a guy it's even less of an issue I could have a family well into my life If I ever wanted one. I care about building a career I'm actually passionate about, I really don't have my romantic life/building a family in mind right now
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im 17 and i still live with my parents i want to leave when im 18 but my parents dont want me to leave
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DesuMaiden said:
In modern society we have a bunch of people in their 20s and 30s who continue to live with their parents. On the other hand, their parents started families by the time they reached their 20s or 30s. Why are these people incapable of living independently when they are already adults?

One reason why people are unable to start their own families in their 20s is because they are burdened by student loan debt. They graduated with tens of (sometimes even hundreds of thousands) of dollars of student loan debt that they can't pay off. There is no way they can start their own family, buy a car, buy a house, or live on their own with that much student loan debt, especially if all they are stuck with is a low-paying, minimum wage job. Their inability to pay off a seemingly insurmountable amount of student loan debt is one of the reasons why they can't start their own families and live independently of their parents.

Another reason is because people simply want to mooch off their parents for longer. By your mid to late twenties, you should already have started your only family, but nowadays, these basement-dwellers continue to live off their parents and have not started their own family. They continue to live the easy life of mooching off their parents, because their parents wouldn't kick them out of their house.

Those are my two theories for why there are so many basement dwellers. Does anyone else have a better explanation for why there are so many basement dwellers? I think there needs to be a solution to the current basement-dweller phenomenon. You can't have a society full of people who continue to live with their parents forever.

I'm making this thread because I'm already 24 1/2, and I still haven't started my own family. My dad and mom gave birth to me when they were only 26. I should start my own family by 26 years old, and stop living with my parents by then. I don't care if I finish my university degree or not. University is worthless, in my honest opinion. I just want to start a family by the time I'm 26. Or no later than 30 years old.



why the hell should I move from my parents house? it is warm here, it is cheaper to live here, it is my original homes where I grew up and lived my entire life. MY HOMES. and we are happy loving family. but the best of all I have MY SISTER HERE.
so why the hell should I go through all the hell and rent my place or buying my place and pay credits for the rest of my life?? this would be stupid and impractical thing to do. I already have homes, why the hell would I need new ones?

and about my own family.. so I supposed to go away from my warm parents homes into cold wild to search for another women when I m already have my sister (which is more beautiful and atractive than 90% girls I've seen)? and what then? make a children? and feed it? and work hard to feed that piece of trash and pay credits? only idiot would go through so much trouble when he can simply shitpost on MAL for days and live his happy lazy life in his parents homes. watch anime, play games, sleep with sis.. sports.. so many nice things to do. so why leave and make your life into bloody hell? to rise a children? who needs a children? who needs to work hard when you already have everything you need in your loving parents house which is your original home...

so relax dude, stay at home and dont do anything stupid no matter if you're 26 or 46. just relax and enjoy your life, it will end soon...
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I don't want to raise a family, this is no generation to raise kids (too PC, education screwed over, no real childhood anymore, etc.) and second, this is no generation to find love, I'll wait until the third wave feminism goes away to get a wife.


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I don't want to raise a family, this is no generation to raise kids (too PC, education screwed over, no real childhood anymore, etc.) and second, this is no generation to find love, I'll wait until the third wave feminism goes away to get a wife.


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it's not a basement , it's a Basement Command Center. get it right foo
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I would personally prefer being a hikikomori NEET then work some dead end job at an office cubicle




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Lime_ said:
I understand wanting to pursue things that you enjoy and that pique your interest

but a lot of people are coming to a harsh realization that the things they enjoy simply don't bring in money - I think it would do a lot of people good to research how viable their career paths are before investing years in an education that will leave you jobless


Sorry, but that doesn't work. You don't take into account that those viable career paths already have motivated people who are actually interested in what they are doing in them. You will lose to them. That is why it's better to polish your skills instead, because those are the only things you're left with in the end.
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As the adage goes, "it takes one to know one".

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Because of the easy approach to anything that the internet provides. Literally. The internet has basically every necessity you need besides water and food.
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They are a byproduct of the society. They shouldn't exist.
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Ones life isn't owned by society so saying they shouldn't exist based on not meeting societal expectation is retarded.
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