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ex_necross said: The biggest fuck up this anime could possibly do is have a happy ending. Or later on trying to justify the MCs actions with some corruption in the government or some forced bullshit moral lesson. Things are looking great so far, but this type of show has a big chance of fucking up royally. We are following antagonists, and it better stay that way. agreed, humanize them, but no free passes. Consequence for every action, good or bad. |
skudoops said: MajorZero said: Ok, I'm in minority here, but I think that it was pretty generic and overall uninspired episode. Like watching stupid procedural show with anime cliches here and there. Galimx is that you?? O.O Considering Galimx praised it earlier I doubt he would have another account and criticize one episode. |
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| I was not expecting the first episode to be anything like this from how I first read the synopsis. Decent first episode. The Yoko Kanno along with the usual top-notch Aimer ending is great. I am excited for what this series has planned for everyone. |
jimjameswhatever said: I can see where you get that impression: it's got the serious megane guy, the polar opposite genki guy, the helpless girl, human experimentation, bullying (which is more of a Japanese stereotype rather than an amine cliche), etc. But the story doesn't rely too heavily on these cliche's, at least so far. I don't think the show is going for too much here, it's very short after all, they can only cover a few themes. I don't object to simplicity nor redundancy. We all know ideas get recycled purposely or inadvertently, it's how you execute it. I disagree on your sentiment that it's generic though. The vibe of the show has been done, definitely, but not to the point of it being generic. The main problem I have right now with this episode (only episode, because series itself can be improved later) is the fact that with few changes I can easily imagine it to be part of anything from Tom Clancy's book to episode of 24. You're absolutely correct, everything depends on execution, it just happened that I didn't like how this episode was handled by Watanabe and his team of writers. Nothing against animation, it was good for the most part, I didn't like the music though (cues from this episode were a bit simplistic for my taste and I haven't had a chance to listen full OST yet). |
MajorZero said: jimjameswhatever said: I can see where you get that impression: it's got the serious megane guy, the polar opposite genki guy, the helpless girl, human experimentation, bullying (which is more of a Japanese stereotype rather than an amine cliche), etc. But the story doesn't rely too heavily on these cliche's, at least so far. I don't think the show is going for too much here, it's very short after all, they can only cover a few themes. I don't object to simplicity nor redundancy. We all know ideas get recycled purposely or inadvertently, it's how you execute it. I disagree on your sentiment that it's generic though. The vibe of the show has been done, definitely, but not to the point of it being generic. The main problem I have right now with this episode (only episode, because series itself can be improved later) is the fact that with few changes I can easily imagine it to be part of anything from Tom Clancy's book to episode of 24. You're absolutely correct, everything depends on execution, it just happened that I didn't like how this episode was handled by Watanabe and his team of writers. Nothing against animation, it was good for the most part, I didn't like the music though (cues from this episode were a bit simplistic for my taste and I haven't had a chance to listen full OST yet). I'm listening to the OST now. It's mostly eerie and empty feeling tracks, which is thematically fitting, in my opinion. I never read a tom clancy book or watched 24, but I can imagine what they're like. So are you saying that the cliche aspects of the show are the action bits? Because I think the show is, at least I'm hoping it will be, focusing on the psyche of the characters rather than the specifics of the terrorist actions. magane guy's recurring dream was only a hint at what their inner troubles may be, but I'm pretty sure it's main theme of the story. |
skudoops said: pLaguE_ said: Considering Galimx praised it earlier I doubt he would have another account and criticize one episode. Word for word that is something he'd definitely say lmao. I'm not arguing but he did praise it earlier xD |
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| I enjoyed this episode very much. A little confusing at first but it made sense for me at the end. I also enjoyed the animation and the music. |
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| Last spring i had Ping Pong as my AOTS, and now it looks like Zankyou no Terror will be the next. |
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| Awesome. |
| The art and music are not to my taste at all, but the plot is okay. I'd like to see where it goes with the characters. |
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| Again a fantastic Noitamina Anime show :D |
| The OST during the scene when they were escaping the girl really minds me of the bank robbery scene in The Dark Knight, very similar. |
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| That was a great ep!! I'm also liking the duo so far and interested in why they name each other - Nine and Twelve. Expecting a lot from this! Hopefully it doesn't disappoint. |
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galimx said: On the other hand, its hard to take a guy serious when he is talking about anime cliches and generic stuff, when he has clannad in his favourites (MajorZero), bot yeah. Whatever. Said the guy with NGE in his favourites. |
| Ahhh that atmosphere, with 11 eps this is probably going to one intense ride week by week. MajorZero said: Said the guy with NGE in his favourites. Says the guy with ef in his favorites(jk that makes you awesome actually) |
AlexTheRiotJul 10, 2014 4:37 PM
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| Very strong first episode! Hopefully it keeps up the pace and is interesting. |
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| either A.both of them died in the end B.there are some rvelations about the truth/season 2 or none of this |
Kaioshin_Sama said: I wonder if Mr. Super Writer Gen Urobuchi is somewhere wishing he came up with our two MC's here. The nihilism levels are off the charts with these two as are the fujoshi baiting potential. Other than that I think the directing is the stand out of this episode. Very good use of cinematography and pacing. Will have to see where it goes as far as the writing and I'm still not sure about the MC's beyond the fact that they seem designed to drive fujoshi absolutely wild (maybe I'm just getting a little too cynical though) with their whole tall dark and handsome ice man meets effeminate dorky smiling man personalities and Lisa as the kind of self-insert character that just seems to get shit on by life, wants a way out and/or for her tormentors to suffer and who looks like she'll be used like a tool by these two. Nihilism? Seriously? They purposely set a fire so civilians could evacuate before the explosion, and then saved a girl who was completely irrelevant to their objective. How the fuck is this supposed to be "Nihilism"? At best, this is moral relativism. Using the flashback as a basis, it's quite evident they're doing this driven by some cheap sentiment(s), rather than it being an actual political/philosophical statement. I'm also quit sure, we'll see a "super evil government" plot device introduced in the near future, thus FULLY "justifying" the protagonists' actions and giving them the moral high-ground. Fuck yeah, fuel that righteous indignation, the masses love that shit. Oh boy, I can already smell the cheese. I'd rather it wouldn't but, there are so many ways it can go wrong that it probably will fall under it's own weight. Also, almost a week has passed since Aldnoah aired and you're still butthurt over Aniplex's marketing campaign? Is it too much to ask of you to judge the goddamn show on it's own merits, objectively, without some meaningless external sensationalistic bullshit influencing you? Where nihilism is concerned, "Mr.Super Writer Gen Urubuchi"'s F/Z Kirei eats half-assed "nihilists" like these stereotypical fujoshibait bitches for breakfast. |
OwaruSekaiJul 10, 2014 4:49 PM
MajorZero said: galimx said: On the other hand, its hard to take a guy serious when he is talking about anime cliches and generic stuff, when he has clannad in his favourites (MajorZero), bot yeah. Whatever. Said the guy with NGE in his favourites. Since we're talking about generic/cliches then you mentioning NGE is like the polar opposite. I'm sorry mate but you're digging yourself a large hole. |
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galimx said: 2bad that NGE invented those cliche tropes that you are talking about, haha. The influence and cultural level and legacy of it its just to high for you to comprehend. Maybe you should read something about it, before you spurt nonsense. And you certainly lack respect for the past. Wow. So angry. Much butthurt. |
MajorZero said: galimx said: 2bad that NGE invented those cliche tropes that you are talking about, haha. The influence and cultural level and legacy of it its just to high for you to comprehend. Maybe you should read something about it, before you spurt nonsense. And you certainly lack respect for the past. Wow. So angry. Much butthurt. I love when people used terrible memes to show their passive aggressive anger towards a computer screen. Get real. |
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| This was a really good 1st epd. It almost feels like The Dark Knight thanks to the OST. Also OP and Ed are not my cup of tea. |
| Glorious Titties Nuff Said! Make America Great Again! |
| ITT: My anime taste is better than yours. Get on my level, plebs. |
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galimx said: MajorZero said: Said the guy with NGE in his favourites. 2bad that NGE invented those cliche tropes that you are talking about, haha. The influence and cultural level and legacy of it its just to high for you to comprehend. Maybe you should read something about it, before you spurt nonsense. And you certainly lack respect for the past. Bob was the first guy who invented the concept of stealing. We shouldn't condemn him because he came up with a totally original concept! Not agreeing with any of you two but there are times where being the originator of something isn't good. |
| Damn that was amazing, it was way better than I expected (and I expected it to be great to begin with). Definitely the best premier yet for the summer season, heck year. Like the premise and the characters. The visuals were downright astounding as was the OST and OP/ED. Watanabe never disappoints. |
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| wow the animations this series has definitely caught my attention cant wait to see more :D |
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| interesting episode kind of gives me the Phantom: requiem for a phantom feel either join us or die O_O pretty good |
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| I predict this to be the best anime of the season. |
| Great episode. Definitely my favorite of all the first episodes this season. |
| "Listen Simon... Don't forget. Believe in yourself. Not in the you who believes in me. Not the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself." ~ Kamina (TTGL) “You should enjoy the little detours. To the fullest. Because that’s where you’ll find the things more important than what you want.” ~ Ging (HxH) |
| I'm really liking the overall mood and atmosphere of this show. The ost during the terrorist attack reminded me a bit of the ost from The Dark Knight. This show has the potential to be the best of the season. |
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| That was a very promising start. The episode was exciting and interesting, and I like the characters so far. The animation looks nice. Also, that Yoko Kanno OST is amazing. The OP and ED are great too. This is definitely one of my favorite series from this season. |
| Actually thought his dream sequence was the ED and was like "wft, that was short". Was happy when I found out that it was only half way through. |
| Powered by yuri. Needless to say, I finish all anime I start, no matter my initial opinion, no matter how bad it gets, I WILL FINISH IT! http://www.anime-planet.com/users/zunderdog24  |
| A nice episode to start the series. It didn't blow my mind, but it definitely showed a lot of potential. I liked what I've seen of the characters and that first action scene was well animated. For now, the best thing about it was the definitely the tone of the series. Tokyo looked live an actual metropolis thanks to all the small details they included, the animation was consistently good and the music was fitting. If the story will be on par with everything else, this could really be amazing. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| the animation on this terrorism story is movie like, i hope that level of animation stays consistent all through out the show |
| The art was gorgeous, even the CGI was great, I wish all anime that insist on CGI would take a lesson from this. |
| Looks very promising. High expectations for this for sure. |
| "Hey! I'm totally an adult! I bitch and whine, lie through my teeth, and do things that are unfair." |
| That was awesome. This was the show I was expecting the most this season, and it didn't disappointed me. Gorgeous art and animation, and the plot seems promising. |
| It's....interesting. But I really don't like the two boys (I had a feeling I wouldn't when the news about this show first came out). I hope they're not made out to be some tragic heroes, because they're not; they're terrorists. The imagery that evoked 9/11 similarities also disturbed me. I'm...unsure how to really feel on this show. It seems like it'll possibly play out like a thriller with Lisa as the protagonist. |
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| Other than Akame Ga Kill, and Tokyo Ghoul, this was the other anime I was very excited for when I first read the description of it, however I went in with decent expectations. As of now, this has the potential, in my eyes to be the anime of the season. SO much potential in this. The characters I found really, really interesting, unlike everything else I've watched so far (Except for maybe Aldnoah.Zero and "Missle Boy"). This can easily be VERY good, because the concept is extremely interesting, and not often done. The animation I thought was pretty good. I don't think it's anything over the top. It's, once again, different from most stuff this season. I'd compare it to Steins;Gate. That's the kind of feel I'm getting from this. And as for the OST? Absolutely superb for the first episode. It really left the proper impressions with each scene. You could really feel the intensity (Or what you could call that) in everything thus far. Overall, I think this is going to be my favourite anime of the season. Early to tell, but I have really high hopes for this now after one episode. |
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