Is Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Overrated?
Yes
47.9%
654
No
52.1%
710
1,364 votes
Zeel said: You would sink poor arguments with rage? I'm afraid that won't not work very well, it only strengthens their resolve against your "Troll opinions", again, you are using just the same peripheral argumentative tactics that you berate the humpers of doing.And why exactly do i have to be a "troll' to hate on this Anime? There's been too much asslickers for me to be nice about it, they need to hear what and why it sucks, no beating around the bush, that's why there was even an arguement to begin with. had I posted first page, this shit would of been over. But no, we let them slide with their piss poor defense "EPIIICC!!!" I'd imagine you'd do much better to calmly explain why it sucks rather than work yourself up into a rage and hurl expletives, that is, if you are capable of such. |
| In my opinion, the first half of the show is just a pretty good. However, the second arc is nothing short of brilliant (hence avatar). So no, it is not overrated whatsoever. |
Zeel said: Baman said: ]You would sink poor arguments with rage? I'm afraid that won't not work very well, it only strengthens their resolve against your "Troll opinions", again, you are using just the same peripheral argumentative tactics that you berate the humpers of doing. I'd imagine you'd do much better to calmly explain why it sucks rather than work yourself up into a rage and hurl expletives, that is, if you are capable of such. You're such a naive person to think that these people are looking for a logical exchange? Again, i ask you, have you read the previous pages? Let me clue you in, people have already tried being 'nice' . You know what they got, spanky? GURREN LAGANN IS EPIC! AND IT'S NOT OVERRATED! IT'S FUCKIN AWESOME! IF YOU DON'T LIKE GURREN LAGANN, THEN YOU'RE A GAYASS! CODE GEASS IS FUCKIN AWESOME TOO! Now, as smartass as he's trying to be, he's summarized the general counter arguement to all intelligent dismal of this shit show. If you think I'm going to waste MY time trying to convince fools? you're out of your MIND. They are not more than little boys you laugh and make fun of. And to call me a troll because i refuse to fall in such an obvious black hole of stupidity, is not exactly accurate, they're more trolls than I am, i at least will defend my point, they'll just continue on with their weak defense. God, look at this buffoonery, looks like monkey's discovering the wheel. Then, then what is your purpose here? |
Zeel said: Even so, the chances that people will second guess their opinions are certainly no better when one use the same poor tactics they do.You're such a naive person to think that these people are looking for a logical exchange? Again, i ask you, have you read the previous pages? Let me clue you in, people have already tried being 'nice' . You know what they got, spanky? At least a proper argument might get people thinking. Now, as smartass as he's trying to be, he's summarized the general counter arguement to all intelligent dismal of this shit show. If you think I'm going to waste MY time trying to convince fools? you're out of your MIND. They are not more than little boys you laugh and make fun of. Well, as you say, he did do this in spite, but I have actually seen people here putting more proper arguments than EPIC LOLOLOL in favour of this series, though not necessarily in this thread.And to call me a troll because i refuse to fall in such an obvious black hole of stupidity, is not exactly accurate, they're more trolls than I am, i at least will defend my point, they'll just continue on with their weak defense. A troll is someone who posts deliberately provocative messages, which is exactly what you have been doing, no need denying that. Defense of one's opinions is not relevant to whether or not someone is a troll.God, look at this buffoonery, looks like monkey's discovering the wheel. |
Baman said: That would most likely be because of it's easy accessibility and good use of peripheral persuasion stratagems though, not because of a deep plot or high quality characters. Might be a matter of taste, but this is precisely why I separate enjoyment and quality. does a plot necessarily need to be 'deep' for a series to be of high quality? i think that everything about gurren lagann was polished to a great sheen, and that is exactly why it is so great. the pacing is spot on, the character design is unique and interesting, the animation is smooth and well done, and it pulls off its 'thing' - action-packed fight scenes with ridiculous premises - without a hitch. and i think that looking for 'high-quality', as you put it, characters in a shonen mech-parody anime is kind of silly. they're not supposed to be particularly deep, and even with that in mind, i think that they expounded on their characters really extraordinarily well, especially post-kamina death. i really honestly think that gurren lagann is worth an 8 or more. i mean, what about it do you think is non-quality? |
audiodoll said: I'm not saying it's without quality, but it lacks the kind of quality I need in order to give a high rating to a series. i really honestly think that gurren lagann is worth an 8 or more. i mean, what about it do you think is non-quality? It does what it's supposed to do just fine, no questions there, but there's too many small things that bugs me in it, even if they are to be expected from the genre. |
Baman said: audiodoll said: I'm not saying it's without quality, but it lacks the kind of quality I need in order to give a high rating to a series. i really honestly think that gurren lagann is worth an 8 or more. i mean, what about it do you think is non-quality? It does what it's supposed to do just fine, no questions there, but there's too many small things that bugs me in it, even if they are to be expected from the genre. like... what? (that being the question that i asked) |
| The whole determinator complex with childish idealism and excessive use of melodrama and emotional appeal would be the main problems for me, as well as the battles, the clichee plot devices and the super robot aspect of it all. Of course, that's the way it's supposed to be, but it still doesn't feel right for me. |
| yeah, i mean, that's the exact point of the show but ok, that's your opinion so whevs |
| Well, if you don't like the simple plot, don't bother about it. I personally prefer simple plots over bad ones, and I personally don't find TTGL's plot bad. |
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| Why do people bother with finding out if other people like or dislike an Anime? You like it, good for you. If you don't like it, good for you. Yes there are plenty of people who act like TTGL is the best thing ever, that's just because they need to watch more Super Mecha Animes like Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, and Godannar. Personally, I think Gurren Lagann is a great anime and will be one of the best until the NEXT "best" Anime comes along and then this thread will start over again, just with some other anime. BUt right now, I prefer Godannar over Gurren Lagann. It may not be "Better" then TTGL, but I like it more. |
ntHai said: GURREN LAGANN IS EPIC! AND IT'S NOT OVERRATED! IT'S FUCKIN AWESOME! IF YOU DON'T LIKE GURREN LAGANN, THEN YOU'RE A GAYASS! CODE GEASS IS FUCKIN AWESOME TOO! fgsfds |
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arcspartan said: fgsfdsntHai said: GURREN LAGANN IS EPIC! AND IT'S NOT OVERRATED! IT'S FUCKIN AWESOME! IF YOU DON'T LIKE GURREN LAGANN, THEN YOU'RE A GAYASS! CODE GEASS IS FUCKIN AWESOME TOO! fgsfds |
| Absolutely not. I think is the anime of the moment and people will talk about it for many years,like other famous anime. |
User1 said: User2 said: No, it's general and shit.GURREN LAGANN IS EPIC! User3 said: User4 said: Because it's so epic!!11Why this show is so popular? User5 said: Here, let me share my fairly thoughtful vision about this show and why it's so good. *Silence* User6 said: You people can't just go around yelling it's epic. Let this topic die. Even that "Kamina is Simon's Dad"-thread has better stuff than this. |
Orangevision said: Let this topic die. Even that "Kamina is Simon's Dad"-thread has better stuff than this. Agreed. |
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Teqnique said: Does that mean You'll give me refund of hours spent DL'ing it? D:keep Watching it, i guarantee it will not be disappointing |
| Yes. And I still love it. |
| And the dude from The Lake House is all "WHOA!" |
| Yes, it is overrated, like 1/2 of the anime on MAL. In terms of its position, I'd say its about right, it is one of the better ones released. But in no way is it a "Masterpiece". You can't prevent bias with public ranking systems, and so it is best to take MAL's rankings fairly lightly. Polls like this do nothing but stir up arguments and should not be made in the first place, but I guess it does intrigue me a little to see peoples opinions. |
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| Quite overrated. I loved it at first, but right after Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Movie Lagann-hen the fanboys made me fucking hate the series. |
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| I love it (still working my way through), but it is overrated. |
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| It's definitely a great series and I love it, but it's still severely overrated. |
| Overrated shit |
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| TTGL is the only non-porn show that gives me a raging Boner like a Drill thrusting onto the sky. Definitely my favorite anime. |
OMGWTFLOLBBQ said: lolTTGL is the only non-porn show that gives me a raging Boner like a Drill thrusting onto the sky. Definitely my favorite anime. sHsIkuA said: Nice sig you got there, bro.Overrated shit |
OMGWTFLOLBBQ said: TTGL is the only non-porn show that gives me a raging Boner like a Drill thrusting onto the sky. Definitely my favorite anime. Gives me a boner whenever Simon shouts. |
| Speaking purely out of personal opinion, I feel the show is overrated simply because when people refer to the show, I always witness this: - "It rocks!" - "It's the shit!" - "FUCKING PWNS!" - "Best anime ever!" - "It's fucking EPIC" - "Who the hell you do think I am?!" (not an actual opinion, just the obvious catchphrase someone would say when referring to the show) In other words, the show seems overrated because the fans themselves make it overrated. I rarely ever hear anyone give an in-depth reason as to what is so damn good about this or even give any criticisms (not that I want someone to bash the living hell out of the show or anything). People treat it as if Gurren Lagann doesn't need any explanation as to why it's so damn good. |
Hypeathon said: You would always 'rarely' hear anyone to give an in-depth reason for anything that's remotely good and popular. Truth is, there's simply less people who enjoyed it simply and feel the need to explain when the people who didn't enjoyed it feel the strong need to nitpick plot holes (and most often, gets contradicted) or just ask the question "I don't see how anyone could like it", which is essentially the same as saying "I don't see how anyone could hate it". It's evident in almost every highly rated film on IMDB, as well as here on MAL. Yet, what really defines a show, what really makes them shine, is what their specific focus is for the show, and truly excelling in that area.Speaking purely out of personal opinion, I feel the show is overrated simply because when people refer to the show, I always witness this: - "It rocks!" - "It's the shit!" - "FUCKING PWNS!" - "Best anime ever!" - "It's fucking EPIC" - "Who the hell you do think I am?!" (not an actual opinion, just the obvious catchphrase someone would say when referring to the show) In other words, the show seems overrated because the fans themselves make it overrated. I rarely ever hear anyone give an in-depth reason as to what is so damn good about this or even give any criticisms (not that I want someone to bash the living hell out of the show or anything). People treat it as if Gurren Lagann doesn't need any explanation as to why it's so damn good. If you really tried reading this thread, excluding all the trolls (who either posted one of your above comments or insulted in the same manner), then there's plenty of 'in-depth analysis' to why TTGL is rated in such a way and just what that specific focus, that I mentioned earlier, really is. And plenty of reviews here on MAL offer a pretty 'in-depth' analysis to their opinion, too. Oh, and in the last episode discussion, as well. Though most likely, for someone to first ask the question of why its good, they're most likely not going to get a sufficient answer. Because if you can't see in the shoes of other people, then them giving you an elaborate explanation are not really going to do much. Typically the discussion goes no where. The people who liked it still liked it. The people who disliked it still disliked it. |
TachiiOct 19, 2009 5:02 AM
Hybrid00 said: Quite overrated. I loved it at first, but right after Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Movie Lagann-hen the fanboys made me fucking hate the series. This is pretty why i gave it a 6. At the beginning i gave it a 8, but because fanboys are annoying the hell out of me. After a brief rewatch, I find that TTGL is just made of pure ENTERTAINMENT. So, I gave it a 6, which is a decent score. Bladecatcher said: Alberto said: No shit.Yes or No. A simple question bbitchslappedme said: Exactly, if someone doesn't love an anime as much as you, they must be asscakes.Nope. Also, anyone giving it a rating of a 1 deserves to be decapitated. The junk ratings it has should be removed. It's obvious people giving a 6 and lower are just asscakes. I must be an asscake then. |
Kyo_KagamiOct 19, 2009 2:29 PM
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Bladecatcher said: bbitchslappedme said: Exactly, if someone doesn't love an anime as much as you, they must be asscakes.Nope. Also, anyone giving it a rating of a 1 deserves to be decapitated. The junk ratings it has should be removed. It's obvious people giving a 6 and lower are just asscakes. You're kidding me right? So you don't think the people who spent all the time making these so called "Over-rated" shows deserve more than a 1 for their work? Nothing disgusts me more than people giving good anime a 1. Its always these ones that people call over-rated which makes it even worse. Whats EEEEVEN worse is a lot probably don't even watch the anime, but give it a 1 anyway to try and be different or because they are sore that their favorite show isn't as high. I'm not too fussed as far as MAL goes fortunately because listening to ratings here is like listening to a piece of bullshit. If there are reasons, fair enough, but most people pull reasons right out of their arses that make them look like complete fools. |
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OMGWTFLOLBBQ said: TTGL is the only non-porn show that gives me a raging Boner like a Drill thrusting onto the sky. Definitely my favorite anime. THIS. Also yes it is so over-rated, but I love the fuck out of it. For a long time Evangelion was the only anime that I found worthy of calling my personal number 1 fave, as soon as I finished TTGL around an hour ago it took that spot away from it. This is just my personal opinion. I respect others and what they think about it, but I really REALLY enjoyed this. |
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Psychodrake said: I was under the impression that people rated stuff based on how much they enjoyed something, not on the efforts of the producers.You're kidding me right? So you don't think the people who spent all the time making these so called "Over-rated" shows deserve more than a 1 for their work? Nothing disgusts me more than people giving good anime a 1. Its always these ones that people call over-rated which makes it even worse. You seem to be forgetting that good is subjective. This obviously isn't a good anime for those who rate it a 1.Whats EEEEVEN worse is a lot probably don't even watch the anime, but give it a 1 anyway to try and be different or because they are sore that their favorite show isn't as high. I'm not too fussed as far as MAL goes fortunately because listening to ratings here is like listening to a piece of bullshit. There is indeed a lot of rating trollers around, and even if there weren't we would likely still have series like CG R2 high up on the list, so I doubt it would have been much better. It's still basically a popularity poll, and if one thing is certain, it is that popularity has little to no correlation with quality. |
Baman said: Psychodrake said: I was under the impression that people rated stuff based on how much they enjoyed something, not on the efforts of the producers.You're kidding me right? So you don't think the people who spent all the time making these so called "Over-rated" shows deserve more than a 1 for their work? Nothing disgusts me more than people giving good anime a 1. Its always these ones that people call over-rated which makes it even worse. You seem to be forgetting that good is subjective. This obviously isn't a good anime for those who rate it a 1.Whats EEEEVEN worse is a lot probably don't even watch the anime, but give it a 1 anyway to try and be different or because they are sore that their favorite show isn't as high. I'm not too fussed as far as MAL goes fortunately because listening to ratings here is like listening to a piece of bullshit. There is indeed a lot of rating trollers around, and even if there weren't we would likely still have series like CG R2 high up on the list, so I doubt it would have been much better. It's still basically a popularity poll, and if one thing is certain, it is that popularity has little to no correlation with quality.Indeed. I was only really talking about the trolls who watch an entire series just to rate it a 1. There is NO chance unless they had absolutely no life away from anime, they could or would continue watching something they deem "Unwatchable". There is nothing to achieve doing it. Or maybe only a few of us really value our time. |
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| Listen most popular shows or movies have a weird effect, you will see a lot of 10s, 9s, 8s, and 7s, then 6-2 will be somewhat low, then 1s will be really high, most average anime have a score chart that is like a arrow pointing right with 6,7, and 8 getting most of the votes but TTGL, and most other really popular shows have an arrow that point left. I am not saying there aren't people who give TTGL a 1 truthfully but the higher amount shows fanboyism. Here are the stats as of my post 10:14,652 votes 9: 8789 votes 8: 5261votes 7: 2717 votes 6: 947 votes 5: 610 votes 4: 241 votes 3: 113 votes 2: 74 votes 1: 293 votes See the jump for 1s, it is more than 4 a much closer to normal score. I would say of the 293 votes of 1, only 50-70 mean it, the rest are trying to bring the score down. God though 43.4% giving it a 10 is cool. |
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Psychodrake said: There is also the possibility that they didn't find it worthy of a 1 until towards the end, or even after finishing it. And then there are also those that just feel they need to finish everything they start. 2-ish episodes isn't that much really, and one can always fast forward through it without losing the gist of the story as well.Indeed. I was only really talking about the trolls who watch an entire series just to rate it a 1. There is NO chance unless they had absolutely no life away from anime, they could or would continue watching something they deem "Unwatchable". There is nothing to achieve doing it. |
| It was good, but it's definitely not a masterpiece. The last anti spiral fighting arc was a bit slow paced. It's epic, and MANLY, and Enjoyable. But in terms of story line and plot development, it's just above average. Yes, it is overated in here... (mai kuuchu buranko need mor vote... D:...) but i still luv kamina... >: |
ringoo4Oct 27, 2009 7:59 PM
| If anything, this show is heavily underrated. |
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5layer said: If anything, this show is heavily underrated. What in the hell are you saying it has a great score eventough i didnt like Gurren lagan |
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| It's a show that makes little girls turn into men and men wanting to lose their virginity to Kamina. |
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| I have no reason to believe that it's overrated. It's more than just an anime, it's an experience. |
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| Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is not overrated. I thought it was overrated after seeing the first episode I thought it was underrated after seeing the last episode A quote from a friend of mine. Gurren Lagann is sooo ridiculous that it's good. |
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