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Feb 4, 2009 5:12 AM

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the best anime torrent site would probably be Tokyo Tosho. and i already know all 5 movies are there.
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Woah... I NEVER expected something to beat TTGL. Anyway, let's just wait a little while. It'll probably drop from #1. I'm not saying it won't be high, but it'll definitely drop.

Adding this to my Plan to Watch. I'll give all 5 movies a try. Hopefully, it won't disappoint. Don't worry, I won't give it unfair ratings, despite being the TTGL fangirl that I am.
Feb 4, 2009 6:38 AM

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Still didn't drop from #1 ......
Feb 4, 2009 7:30 AM

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but the score is dropping D:
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Feb 4, 2009 9:33 AM
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Not really, TTGL got 9.05 once, and then dropped even to 9.00 (and it had been scored by over 10000 users, this hasn't been scored even by 1000 users yet).
Feb 4, 2009 9:51 AM
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No need for hate between TTGL and KnK parties. Just relax and enjoy both shows. People like Wishy and Ketuekigami especially need to calm down with their petty squabbles. No need to force KnK down people's throats, and there's no need to hate something that you'll never really watch anyway. Especially Wishy; I am most likely a bigger TTGL fanboy than you are and I think you're being horribly irrational.

Personally, I think that TTGL is a better show, but both titles are masterpieces on their own right.

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InsaneZero said:
No need for hate between TTGL and KnK parties. Just relax and enjoy both shows. People like Wishy and Ketuekigami especially need to calm down with their petty squabbles. No need to force KnK down people's throats, and there's no need to hate something that you'll never really watch anyway.


Yeah, I was just about to say something like that. all this fighting is getting really silly..
Feb 4, 2009 10:25 AM

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Hmm, watched the movie then found my jaw and went to the forums. And what do I see? Fanboys. Seriously, throw out some anime posters from your room because it seems they are covering windows, and you don't have enough supply of fresh air.

As for KnK #5. I though it was the best part so far. Finally, story was on par with animation and it was a breathtaking watch. It'll probably be lower in rankings soon but who cares (except fanboys).

At such times, it's best to 'quote' some universal truths...



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Feb 4, 2009 4:21 PM

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Score is at 9.08. Seems to have dropped since I last checked it.
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Hmm, watched the movie then found my jaw and went to the forums. And what do I see? Fanboys. Seriously, throw out some anime posters from your room because it seems they are covering windows, and you don't have enough supply of fresh air.

As for KnK #5. I though it was the best part so far. Finally, story was on par with animation and it was a breathtaking watch. It'll probably be lower in rankings soon but who cares (except fanboys).

At such times, it's best to 'quote' some universal truths...



ROTFL!

That exactly explains why I sleep very late.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Feb 4, 2009 7:06 PM
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5layer said:
Score is at 9.08. Seems to have dropped since I last checked it.

Back to 9.09 =D
Feb 4, 2009 7:20 PM

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For you guys who are into Kara no Kyoukai, it's going to get pwned and turned into one movie instead of 7.

LIST SHRINK TIME


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InsaneZero said:
No need for hate between TTGL and KnK parties. Just relax and enjoy both shows. People like Wishy and Ketuekigami especially need to calm down with their petty squabbles. No need to force KnK down people's throats, and there's no need to hate something that you'll never really watch anyway. Especially Wishy; I am most likely a bigger TTGL fanboy than you are and I think you're being horribly irrational.

Personally, I think that TTGL is a better show, but both titles are masterpieces on their own right.

Agreed. People need to calm the fuck down about this. It's just... the internet. There's no way to tell if anyone cares about what you say, I know that for myself. Stop taking things too seriously, it's not like it's going to ruin your life because one or two people on the internet don't agree with you.

Personally, I thought that KnK is awesome, gave it a 10/10. But I don't really like how it's no. 1. I think that full-length series should take the top spots, not movies. Series are far more in depth whereas movies are only about 2 hrs tops.
Feb 4, 2009 9:36 PM

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My personal thoughts are that KnK will slowly drop, but I'm hoping that it stays #1. Between KnK 5 and TTGL, I think the former was better, but it may also be because it was a movie. I score movies and OVA's differently from TV shows, because I also appreciate what someone can do within a small time frame. OVA's like RK:T are brilliant in their own right not only because they are good, but because they can tell a full-bodied story in a few episodes.
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Yeah I didn't find it to be amazing. I gave it 8/10. It was similar in quality to most of the previous movies - just longer.
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there was actually many differences in quality from this movie compared to the others which makes this one to be considered the best.

the biggest one would probably be the existence of an actual story line and the way the preceding movies led up to it. That is defiantly why it was always considered the best chapter of the novel and why most people are now considering it the best of the 5 movies so far.

Also, the amazing directing cannot be forgotten. the way the novel laid out the plot was not exactly the same (so Ive been told), the director can be thanked for the way that our perception of whats going on was altered due to the sequence of events that where shown to us and the order they actually took place in which we found out later. Not only that but the fight choreography hasnt lost any points through the series. if anything it could be considered on par or greater then #3.

And last but not least the display of character growth that was lacking in the other movies was shown alot more in this one with the arrival of Enjou. If anything, he alone could be considered why this movie was the best one.

If just counting those elements i would say that #5 is by far the best one.
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Oh, well the story and all that was clearly better. When I said 'quality' I meant in terms of enjoyment. No doubt it was well directed, but there wasn't really something that stood out as being amazing. Like, the fight scenes were cool, but I felt those two other magi were kinda lame, and generic. Buuut, you've gotta give it credit for a lot of different reasons. It was a very good movie overall.
Feb 5, 2009 5:14 AM

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Well, tbh i personally didn't like it at all....
One of the biggest mistakes were the lenght which made it almost boring at times, yes it had a great start and ending as well but who the hell really cares about enjoh's story -.-
Sure story wise it cleared some things up so it may be a bit harsh,
but considering the amazing preview at the end of 4 it was a complete letdown to me.
I really hope the same thing won't happen to 6, since it's the one i'm looking forward the most since the very beginning.....

All in all only 7/10 from me, i don't really consider the great art, fighting scenes or whatsoever to the score since they were great since the very beginning ;)
Also, more Azaka :)
Feb 5, 2009 5:30 AM

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Oh yeah and that's another thing, Tomoe managed to piss me off just by being there. He was THE gayest character. Mikiya is way more awesome.
Feb 5, 2009 7:18 AM

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Tomoe reminded me too much of Shirou D:

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Tomoe reminded me too much of Shirou D:



Ahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one. My first thought was instantly "Shirou" when I first saw Tomoe.
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Cheezy said:
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Tomoe reminded me too much of Shirou D:



Ahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one. My first thought was instantly "Shirou" when I first saw Tomoe.


Same here rofl.
But to me, Tomoe was a lot more annoying than Shirou...
Bleed for me.

Feb 5, 2009 6:07 PM

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My friend said the exact samething when he saw the poster. But he's actually more annoying? Oh God. Not that I pray or use His name in vain all the time.
Feb 5, 2009 6:13 PM

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Yes, he's not like...a pussy or anything. He's just really gay, and I really didn't want him to be in the movie. I probably would have increased the score if he wasn't in it.

Though, it didn't seem to bother most people based on the score they've given it.
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Oh yeah and that's another thing, Tomoe managed to piss me off just by being there. He was THE gayest character. Mikiya is way more awesome.

I agree. Mikiya is a pretty cool guy, even though he got owned.

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Tomoe reminded me too much of Shirou D:



Ahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one. My first thought was instantly "Shirou" when I first saw Tomoe.

Yeah, except this guy actually has a pair of balls.
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My friend said the exact samething when he saw the poster. But he's actually more annoying? Oh God. Not that I pray or use His name in vain all the time.


Well, your mileage may vary. I found him infinitely more likeable than Shirou. Still very meh, though, my distaste for Shirou is sort of... hyperbolic.
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Feb 5, 2009 7:05 PM

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Shirou vs. Tomoe
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Even if the difference in between is quite small.

Well, this certainly had piqued my interest of this series of movies even more.
Feb 5, 2009 7:09 PM

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I think I'll get a start on it and watch the first movie tonight, and then see about watching more from there.
Feb 5, 2009 7:37 PM

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of course Shirou and Tomoe look similar, they were drawn by the same artist and he has a very distinctive drawing style and likes his characters to be similar in looks.

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Shirou vs. Tomoe

That only applies to Fate route of the game. In Unlimited Blade Works and Heavens Feel Shirou beats everyone that comes his way and doesn't need or even get Sabers help.


And ya, i have no idea how someone can be annoyed by Tomoe... its not like the way he acted didn't fit the situation he was in. he had to live weeks of his life thinking he killed his family, thinking he was killed, and so on. i don't see how anyone can blame him or be annoyed at the way he acted... if you could honestly put yourself in his situation im sure anyone here would have killed themselves long ago too free themselves from the guilt.
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Am i the only one who thought Alba was a really meh character?
Feb 5, 2009 7:46 PM

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Am i the only one who thought Alba was a really meh character?

Nope. I thought so too. He was hardly even in it much, and when he was he was pretty pussy and not really a good bad dude (if you know what I mean). The other evil guy was much more convincing.

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of course Shirou and Tomoe look similar, they were drawn by the same artist and he has a very distinctive drawing style and likes his characters to be similar in looks.

naikou said:

Shirou vs. Tomoe

That only applies to Fate route of the game. In Unlimited Blade Works and Heavens Feel Shirou beats everyone that comes his way and doesn't need Sabers help.


And ya, i have no idea how someone can be annoyed by Tomoe... its not like the way he acted didn't fit the situation he was in. he had to live weeks of his life thinking he killed his family, thinking he was killed, and so on. i don't see how anyone can blame him or be annoyed at the way he acted... if you could honestly put yourself in his situation im sure anyone here would have killed themselves long ago too free themselves from the guilt.

Yeah, of course you can't blame him for the way he acted - it's just his personality in the movie. But that personality was really gay, and it pissed me off that he got so much screen time.
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*sigh* im starting to think that im the only person who doesn't get pissed off by any character or thinks any character acts gay because i can consider their situation and put myself in their shoes. it seems that most viewers want a character to act with Kamina levels of cool no matter what situation their in and if they don't they get pissed off. its the same reason why im one of the only people on MAL who doesn't get pissed off by Shinji from Eva... its because he cant help it!

but the only exception is Shinji from FSN... no matter what your situation is rape is not acceptable!

Besides all that, i think Tomoe was an excellent character and deserved all the screen time he got.
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I haven't seen it yet, but I don't think it should hold the #1 spot to be honest, based on the other 4 movies :/ yes, all of the Kara no Kyoukai films are utterly amazing, but to be rated at number #1...? This feels like some kind of excuse to kick Gurren Lagann off it's position to be honest...
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I haven't seen it yet, but I don't think it should hold the #1 spot to be honest, based on the other 4 movies :/ yes, all of the Kara no Kyoukai films are utterly amazing, but to be rated at number #1...? This feels like some kind of excuse to kick Gurren Lagann off it's position to be honest...


Well, TTGL never deserved to be there in the firstplace. However I do think you're right in that KnK won't stay #1, especially with TTGL fans downvoting it out of spite.

It already has several '1s' -- how anybody could possibly rate it a one, even if they didn't enjoy the story, is absolutely mindboggling. Nobody can deny the animation, music and voice quality. I can understand people not 'getting' or 'liking' the story; I personally dislike the anachronic order of the movies, and in this one with the sort of... backwards storytelling in the first half. However the second half of this one, plus the same level of animation, musical awesomeness and great voicework more than offset that annoyance.

Anybody voting this that low is just trolling the score.
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*sigh* im starting to think that im the only person who doesn't get pissed off by any character or thinks any character acts gay because i can consider their situation and put myself in their shoes. it seems that most viewers want a character to act with Kamina levels of cool no matter what situation their in and if they don't they get pissed off. its the same reason why im one of the only people on MAL who doesn't get pissed off by Shinji from Eva... its because he cant help it!

but the only exception is Shinji from FSN... no matter what your situation is rape is not acceptable!

Besides all that, i think Tomoe was an excellent character and deserved all the screen time he got.

Yeah but what I'm saying is that even though it may have been realistic or w/e for Tomoe to act in that way in the situations he faced, what he did still pissed me off. The realism of a characters reaction to situations is one thing, but if they are an annoying character, then these reactions make no difference.
And I did not expect him to be cool in those situations or anything, I just didn't want him there in the first place, because I disliked him from the moment he first appeared, simply because of the personality he was given. And because he was ginger...lol just kidding.

Oh, and at first I was pissed off by Shinji from NGE, however as I watched more of NGE, I felt the same as you. You can't really compare Shinji with Tomoe though, NGE is completely different to KnK. Shinji's character made more sense and could be appreciated as more realistic based on what NGE was attempting to accomplish.

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I haven't seen it yet, but I don't think it should hold the #1 spot to be honest, based on the other 4 movies :/ yes, all of the Kara no Kyoukai films are utterly amazing, but to be rated at number #1...? This feels like some kind of excuse to kick Gurren Lagann off it's position to be honest...


Well, TTGL never deserved to be there in the firstplace. However I do think you're right in that KnK won't stay #1, especially with TTGL fans downvoting it out of spite.

It already has several '1s' -- how anybody could possibly rate it a one, even if they didn't enjoy the story, is absolutely mindboggling. Nobody can deny the animation, music and voice quality. I can understand people not 'getting' or 'liking' the story; I personally dislike the anachronic order of the movies, and in this one with the sort of... backwards storytelling in the first half. However the second half of this one, plus the same level of animation, musical awesomeness and great voicework more than offset that annoyance.

Anybody voting this that low is just trolling the score.

That kind of thing happens with all anime ranked high. You can't single KnK out, TTGL has received plenty of 1 votes as well. You just have to accept that people will attempt to lower the score of a show if they don't think it deserves its position. They don't really think it deserves a 1.
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I can understand people not 'getting' or 'liking' the story; I personally dislike the anachronic order of the movies, and in this one with the sort of... backwards storytelling in the first half. However the second half of this one, plus the same level of animation, musical awesomeness and great voicework more than offset that annoyance.


I don't know. I love the anachronic and backwards storytelling in movies, like this and Memento and Pulp Fiction and Baccano!, which is one of the reasons I liked it so much.

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the rating is dropping by 0.01 everyday! noooo
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Holy crap TTGL got knocked off o.0 didn't think that was possible.. this movie was pretty awesome *not sure if it deserves the very first place though o.0 wonders if it'll drop down lol..* *is going to get self killed xD*
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Am i the only one who thought Alba was a really meh character?

His theme music was pretty darn evil sounding though.
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there are 7 1s for it now
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^ While I agree that giving it a 1 is not really fair, you can't complain too much. TTGL has 123 1's...
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This is getting rated down now.



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ttgl has 0.7% of its votes as 1's
knk5 has 0.8% of its votes as 1's

tsuiokuhen only has 0.1% of its votes as 1's

but if you ever rate any of these a 1, you deserve to be banned from ever rating anything anywhere.

personally i think the order should be tsuiokuhen first, knk5 2nd, gurren lagann last if these three just had to occupy the top 3 positions.



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Tell me; is the blatant consumer whore encouragement still prevalent in KnK5?
Feb 7, 2009 5:12 PM

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I think the ice cream thing is only in KnK 1 and KnK 5
Feb 7, 2009 6:41 PM

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It's never quite as bad as in number 1, but in number five they have quite a few shots of used hagaan daas' lids.

Also, I bought some Hagaan Daas strawberry ice cream today, and I'm not even kidding. Shit was not nearly as good as Shiki makes it out to be.
Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM

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che. the number is dropping. damn overrated TTGL is gonna be #1 again soon enough.
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restored to its rightful place

no, actually, i'm kidding

i love ttgl, but i never expected to see it on the top of that list when i joined this site

it's too new, you know?

but then again, i guess that makes sense

it would just make more sense for something that has withstood the test of time to be up there

and that said, knk5 has absolutely no fucking business being up there
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