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Jul 7, 2013 2:45 PM
#101
@BRS That's why you should continue watching. Really blatant artsy fanservice. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:45 PM
#102
I'm just marveling at how much detail they put in the background newspapers |
Jul 7, 2013 2:46 PM
#103
@FourSwordKirby So you're saying I should put the text above/below the image link for the Elightenment list with the text "hey the enlightenment list is here" even though the text on the image of Legend of the Galactic Heroes is already saying "Anime Enlightenment Camp"? That looks a bit superfluous to me. Do not get me wrong, I did not found you sounding high and mighty, but I disagree with that suggestion. The list are visible enough as they are. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:47 PM
#104
tsudecimo said: ForgoneReality said: Not a fan of Hanekawa ?Right now for me it stands : Bake > Nise > My Hopes and Dreams for S2 > Neko I'm back, no hugs :/? I like her just fine. Especially in Bake. That's just the thing, I felt like Neko wasn't necessary, and each bit of re-used Monogatari you see kind of dulls it a little. Keep in mind, I've seen 2 out of 4 of the Neko OVA episodes, so we'll see how it fairs upon completion. And I would give hugs but I have a rabid racoon strapped to my chest. Sorry. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:47 PM
#105
Nah, I was joking on that part, but for real I thought it will be mystery part with little fanservice of it, but the comedy of it sucks and it ruins the tone of this show. Though good with watching gifs of them plus I hate Shaft now. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:51 PM
#106
Jul 7, 2013 2:54 PM
#107
GoldenBRS said: Too much chatting hurts my brain. ): Bye bye Bake from me watching that too much talking show that looks like Jerry Springer and Oprah lol. Nah, I was joking on that part, but for real I thought it will be mystery part with little fanservice of it, but the comedy of it sucks and it ruins the tone of this show. Though good with watching gifs of them plus I hate Shaft now. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:54 PM
#108
It's a Nisio Isin work. There was bound to be a lot of talking. In fact, most of what's good about it is in the talking. It's a lot of wit, and snark, and wordplay. Not everyone's cup of tea though. Legit spoiler .gif: AND THE TSUNDERE SHOWS HER STRIPES |
Jul 7, 2013 2:56 PM
#109
*Ahem* Ducat, you misspelled Yandere. |
Jul 7, 2013 2:59 PM
#110
The .gif is misleading. It's Yandere without context, tsundere with context. Such is the power of Senjougahara. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:01 PM
#111
tsudecimo said: ForgoneReality said: It's not unnecessary though, it's a prequel to Bake and a sequel to Kizu. It explains the relationship between Hanekewa and Araragi. It had nice monologues though that the teenage boy with his first crush can relate to lol.I like her just fine. Especially in Bake. That's just the thing, I felt like Neko wasn't necessary, and each bit of re-used Monogatari you see kind of dulls it a little. It just doesn't seem to have added much new material from the original Neko arc at the end of Bakemono is what I meant. Unless of course, the second half has important new scenes. Remember, I haven't finished watching it. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:02 PM
#112
I don't like Shaft very much either. I went into Bakemonogatari knowing there'd be heavy dialogue, but it was really boring. The animation had me awed at the start, but I quickly got over it. Then I started Arakawa Under the Bridge hoping for something good after I watched an OP of it, but it really just bored me. That OP remains one of my favorites, though. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:05 PM
#113
@Emmrys - Reminds me a bit of the Maria Holic OP, which is one of my favourites. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:06 PM
#114
Well, Season 1 of the monogatari series really is meant to set up the plot. Not much will happen in it. It's the type of show that could wrap up its content in 4 episodes but chooses to go for 11 episodes. Strangely enough, I don't think it's a gender thing. My girlfriend love the monogatari series. Might just be an individual thing. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:07 PM
#115
You found Arakawa boring, Emmrys? That's surprising to hear. No, I don't mean it in "wth, how could you" kind of way, it's just that it's surprising and something I haven't heard being said about Arakawa. Speaking of Shaft, I usually don't like their stuff much either. Obvious exception would be Madoka and, to a lesser extent, Arakawa and SZS. And Sasami-san Ganbaranai, of course. Not |
Jul 7, 2013 3:13 PM
#116
@Forgone- Oh, I remember seeing that before and thinking it was cool. But wow, they are pretty similar, besides both shows being made by Shaft. @Meta- I had read good things about it, too, before I started it. It could be that I'm not giving it enough of a chance since I'm still in the early episodes, but so far I haven't found it very interesting. |
Jul 7, 2013 3:19 PM
#117
Jul 7, 2013 4:00 PM
#118
ForgoneReality said: @Emmrys - Reminds me a bit of the Maria Holic OP, which is one of my favourites. That got me chuckling hard Forgone, my hat's off to you sir. EDIT: Whoops, quoted the wrong post, damn phone. |
Jul 7, 2013 8:52 PM
#119
So I just finished Mirai Nikki. How in God's name did this show get such a high rating? It's awful. When people argue about what the worst anime ever is, I dislike it when people name SAO. It's sub par but it's far from one of the worst anime existence. However, Mirai Nikki has to be one of the worst anime I have ever seen |
Jul 7, 2013 8:57 PM
#120
SaberRitsu said: So I just finished Mirai Nikki. How in God's name did this show get such a high rating? It's awful. When people argue about what the worst anime ever is, I dislike it when people name SAO. It's sub par but it's far from one of the worst anime existence. However, Mirai Nikki has to be one of the worst anime I have ever seen I so agree with you. Way too overrated with the mc who cries too much, and is static when it comes to saving people. Can't even changed his damn mind. -_- And Yunno ugh way too dumb too. Thinking of rate it a 5/10 not 6/10 |
Jul 7, 2013 9:02 PM
#121
GoldenBRS said: My score started as a 8, then went down to a 7 when it got worse and 4 when it got even worse. The ending knocked it down to a 3/10SaberRitsu said: So I just finished Mirai Nikki. How in God's name did this show get such a high rating? It's awful. When people argue about what the worst anime ever is, I dislike it when people name SAO. It's sub par but it's far from one of the worst anime existence. However, Mirai Nikki has to be one of the worst anime I have ever seen I so agree with you. Way too overrated with the mc who cries too much, and is static when it comes to saving people. Can't even changed his damn mind. -_- And Yunno ugh way too dumb too. Thinking of rate it a 5/10 not 6/10 |
Jul 7, 2013 9:06 PM
#122
Something worse than SAO? That's rough. @Shaft conversation: I love Shaft, although it might be more accurate to say I love Shinbou. He's probably my favourite director after Miyazaki and Kon. Anyways, Monogatari > Arakawa > SoreMachi > Madoka > Denpa Onna > SZS |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Jul 7, 2013 9:14 PM
#123
Araby said: I honestly don't think SAO is all that bad. However, Mirai Nikki is. It is really, really badSomething worse than SAO? That's rough. |
Jul 7, 2013 9:23 PM
#124
Now to add more salt to the wound, finish up the Elfen Lied anime, then proceed to lose more faith in humanity afterwards. |
Jul 7, 2013 9:52 PM
#125
I'm not sure that I have a single positive thing to say about Mirai Nikki. |
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Jul 7, 2013 9:56 PM
#126
MoeGalacticHero said: I'm not sure that I have a single positive thing to say about Mirai Nikki. It's a cure-all for recommendation threads. How could you not love it? |
Jul 7, 2013 10:02 PM
#127
metamorphius said: The First Rule of MAL Recommendation Forum: Mirai Nikki shall inevitably be recommended in every recommendation thread, regardless of whether it fits the OP's requirements. Corollary with correction: It is impossible for Mirai Nikki not to fit the OP's requirements. |
Jul 7, 2013 10:14 PM
#128
Burningblade04 said: I should probably get to finishing it soon. However before that I need to regain a little bit of my faith by watching magical girls. Otherwise I'll probably end up killing myselfNow to add more salt to the wound, finish up the Elfen Lied anime, then proceed to lose more faith in humanity afterwards. Neane1993 said: So basically, it's the MAL equivalent of what /a/ do with Boku no Pico?metamorphius said: The First Rule of MAL Recommendation Forum: Mirai Nikki shall inevitably be recommended in every recommendation thread, regardless of whether it fits the OP's requirements. Corollary with correction: It is impossible for Mirai Nikki not to fit the OP's requirements. |
Jul 7, 2013 10:20 PM
#129
@Neane That is beautiful. I thought that post of mine was forever lost when a mod purged that recommendation thread. Yet you have it saved *tears of joy* SaberRitsu said: So basically, it's the MAL equivalent of what /a/ do with Boku no Pico? Kinda, but not quite. Maybe around half (recent) Mirai Nikki recs are troll recs. The rest are genuine recs from people who seriously think Mirai Nikki somehow fits everywhere. In fact, troll MN recommendations only initially appeared as a reaction to them. |
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Jul 7, 2013 11:38 PM
#130
Well, Boku no Pico is a dead joke anyway. I'm going to start ironically recommending Mirai Nikki to people |
Jul 7, 2013 11:40 PM
#131
OP: "I want an anime like Mirai Nikki. Can you guys help me out?" Answer: Mirai Nikki. You'll love it. |
Jul 8, 2013 12:12 AM
#132
As far as those super-misanthropic grimdark series go, Mirai Nikki>rest, but still 5/10 for me. Those include Death Note, BTOOM, Deadman Wonderland, etc. |
Jul 8, 2013 12:51 AM
#133
AngelsArcanum said: As far as those super-misanthropic grimdark series go, Mirai Nikki>rest, but still 5/10 for me. Those include Death Note, BTOOM, Deadman Wonderland, etc. I really want to shoot the guy with a 12 gauge shotgun that created such garbage premise in the first place. |
Jul 8, 2013 12:53 AM
#134
Burningblade04 said: AngelsArcanum said: I really want to shoot the guy with a 12 gauge shotgun that created such garbage premise in the first place.As far as those super-misanthropic grimdark series go, Mirai Nikki>rest, but still 5/10 for me. Those include Death Note, BTOOM, Deadman Wonderland, etc. I wouldn't really say it's the premises that are the bad part. |
Jul 8, 2013 1:11 AM
#135
I'm probably the only person here who didn't hate Mirai Nikki, but I can't defend it at all either. It's such a clusterfuck of a show that one has to wonder what they were thinking while it was in production. The premise is half decent (I love death game stories) but they threw so much stupid shit in it was ridiculous. |
Jul 8, 2013 1:16 AM
#136
AngelsArcanum said: I'm not that big a fan of Death Note, but I'm shocked that someone would even think comparing it to those juvenile pieces of shit. Sure the fanbase for Death Note is filled with those same people but there's a lot more to it than people give it credit for. As far as those super-misanthropic grimdark series go, Mirai Nikki>rest, but still 5/10 for me. Those include Death Note, BTOOM, Deadman Wonderland, etc. tl;dr: Death Note>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mirai Nikki Although I guess I should be too surprised. I mean, someone on the forums literally said that Madoka Magica stole ideas from Mirai Nikki. |
Jul 8, 2013 3:24 AM
#137
tsudecimo said: Yes, I have a bone to pick with that twist. RarityRoyale said: I'm probably the only person here who didn't hate Mirai Nikki Same here, except that I like it. It only became terrible after they introduced the concept of other worlds An example of a good plot twist is one that complements previous events and benefits the show on a re-watch by making you think about it from a different perspective. A certain episode towards the end of Madoka Magica comes to mind. Mirai Nikki tries to go from something similar but fails miserably and does the opposite. Instead of complementing previous events and making you look at it from a different perspective, it ruins what little credibility the show had in the first place by rendering most of what had happened up to that episode entirely pointless. I mean, if the show is about time travel and different worlds what was the point of the survival game? |
Jul 8, 2013 4:31 AM
#138
SaberRitsu said: You hit the nail on the head.Yes, I have a bone to pick with that twist. An example of a good plot twist is one that complements previous events and benefits the show on a re-watch by making you think about it from a different perspective. A certain episode towards the end of Madoka Magica comes to mind. Mirai Nikki tries to go from something similar but fails miserably and does the opposite. Instead of complementing previous events and making you look at it from a different perspective, it ruins what little credibility the show had in the first place by rendering most of what had happened up to that episode entirely pointless. I mean, if the show is about time travel and different worlds what was the point of the survival game? (Spoilers for Mirai Nikki, Madoka Magica and Steins;Gate below) All three anime deal with a character going back in time to save someone they care about. In Madoka, this twist was beautifully foreshadowed from the beginning, with little hints laid everywhere in the first couple of episodes that make rewatching a pleasure. In Steins;Gate, it's pretty much the whole premise, even if the 'saving' part doesn't begin until halfway through. In both series the time travel aspect was clearly well planned, well thought out, and the creators took a lot of care to make sure everything adds up and balances out. I believe that both have a few discrepancies, but time travel stories are notoriously difficult to pull off and I think most would agree that Madoka and S;G are among the top anime that deal with time travel. With Mirai Nikki, on the other hand, the 'other world' thing felt like a tacked-on gimmick for extra twist-factor. |
Jul 8, 2013 6:00 AM
#139
I'm in the cqmp that thought mirai nikki wasn't that bad. The bit theme naming with the roman gods I found to be hilarious when I realized it (Juno is basically mount Olympus's resident yandere) and I found that the yandere being the most rational of the group (minus that one arc and the relavation at the end) to be decent subversion of expectation. Plot twists were all over the place, and yukiteru is like Shinji but remove all justification for running away since it's a friggen survival game and there isn't another bloke who could sub in your role to kill or be killed -_- Also, Eflen leid. The rest of the show may have been pretty crap, but am I alone inthinking the 1st ten mintes were genuinely frightening? Like scariest ten minutes in anime for me (though I'm pretty whimpy when it comes to horror) |
Jul 8, 2013 7:36 AM
#140
On the madoka stuff; I don't really see how the time travel twist could be regarded as "rushed" when a helpful amount of foreshadowing was sprinkled throughout the series up 'till ep 10, and there wasn't really much TO explain, she wanted another shot to save madoka, so kyubey gave her the means, and the resulting continuous resets caused a paradox with Madoka in the center. Sure there's the question of HOW her being a paradox strengthened her potential, but that's a whole other can of worms to do with the lack of defined rules with magic in general, something I regard as a double edged sword, so I let it slide |
Jul 8, 2013 9:26 AM
#141
1) According to an interview in Otona Anime Vol. 20, translated by symbv, here is what Gen Urobuchi said on more of Homura's power: "The weapon that looks like Homura's shield is actually a sand timer. When the flow of the sand is blocked, time is stopped. And when there is no sand on the upper part of the sand timer and then the timer is reverted, one month's worth of time is turned back. But before that stage is reached, only time stopping is possible. This means the special power of Homura is the ability to manipulate one month's time's worth of sand in the sand timer. As for the time passed and then turned back, since it was not the focus in this work I did not think it through very thoroughly. I think you can say that the world split up and became parallel worlds there." Also if you remembered correctly her original wish was to "redo her meeting with madoka" so that implies she can't go farther back before the hospital. 2) Due to the changing timeline, Madoka's wish that makes her into a magical girl is different depending on which timeline she is from. However wishes have always stemmed from her kindness. From what we know until now, she contracted with Kyubey in order to: Save a cat whom had just died in front of her in the first timeline. (The first Drama CD of Puella Magi Madoka Magica reveals that the reason that Madoka became a Puella Magi was to save a cat from being run over by a car. You can assume the 2nd and 3rd timelines would be the same) Save Homura from Walpurgisnacht in the fourth timeline. Save Sayaka in the new timeline from The Different Story. Release Magical Girls in the past and future from their cursed fate of becoming witches in the penultimate timeline before the New World. 3) That's the personality change that is the byproduct as result of homura discouraging her from becoming a magical girl. She was consistently the same cheerful normal girl before Homura's stoic personality change. Remember, unlike the first few timelines she was constantly under dilemma in the last timeline and her low self-confidence and confusion throughout the whole situation affected her greatly. In hindsight, Madoka and Homura are characters parallel to each other. 4) Paradox thing also explained by Kyubey's info dumping, it has to do with accumulating karma every time homura time resets, and that karma increases madoka's potential power every time. |
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Jul 8, 2013 10:37 AM
#142
SaberRitsu said: AngelsArcanum said: I'm not that big a fan of Death Note, but I'm shocked that someone would even think comparing it to those juvenile pieces of shit. Sure the fanbase for Death Note is filled with those same people but there's a lot more to it than people give it credit for. As far as those super-misanthropic grimdark series go, Mirai Nikki>rest, but still 5/10 for me. Those include Death Note, BTOOM, Deadman Wonderland, etc. tl;dr: Death Note>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mirai Nikki Although I guess I should be too surprised. I mean, someone on the forums literally said that Madoka Magica stole ideas from Mirai Nikki. I would argue that Death Note is no far cry from being juvenile; it tries to be intelligent and tactical when all it does is crank stuff up to 11 in typical shonen scaling fashion and have tons of bombast and eccentricity that abolish any semblance of maturity amongst Light and L. "I'm going to have a really convoluted desk that you need to jump on, enter a bunch of passwords, open a bunch of hatches and unlock a bunch of locks to get to my diary!" (It's not actually like that but you know what I mean). "Well I'll plant 9001 cameras in this high school student's room to capture every waking moment of him in his room from every possible angle!" That coupled with L being an odd beast himself and moments like the fujoshi bait where L is massaging Light's feet in the rain or the infamous "potato chip" scene that are just totally out of left field. Mirai Nikki is still pretty bad, but I can personally tolerate it more & it's quality (however much you want to quantify) is more consistent over its course somewhat, but it's been a couple years since I've seen it so I can't really vouch for it. I've stated my major qualms with Death Note before, so I'll refrain from adding to the fuel again (not to mention I probably can't remember it much either right now). |
Jul 8, 2013 8:52 PM
#143
At least Death note is still far more intelligent of a series than mirai nikki. The only problem with death note is it's overrated and overhyped way than it should have been. |
Jul 8, 2013 9:09 PM
#144
doraemon1992 said: At least Death note is still far more intelligent of a series than mirai nikki. The only problem with death note is it's overrated and overhyped way than it should have been. Yeah, and the second half sucks too. And Switch maybe could of been better than those two if they have more episodes. So underrated. |
Jul 8, 2013 9:20 PM
#145
Honestly, the only part of Death Note that was outright "bad" to me was the arc where Light and L teamed up. That part with Matsuda, I believe was his name, was especially painful Otherwise, I found it be an extremely entertaining, but not quite great show. |
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Jul 8, 2013 9:26 PM
#146
Death Note is a pretty darn fun anime up until a certain point. Then L washes Light's feet, dies, and these cliche little cash cow kids join the story and I'm just like 'oh my' this story somehow went from 8/10 to 3/10 faster than anything I've ever seen. I chose to give it a 7/10 in honor of how much I enjoyed the good parts of it. But the blatantly obvious milking of the series was in bad taste. |
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Jul 8, 2013 9:47 PM
#147
Death Note relied way too much on coincidences and absurd situations, even in the first half. |
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Jul 9, 2013 6:49 AM
#148
I think Mirai Nikki is utterly hilarious, again...although just the manga I give 0 craps about the anime. I think the Madoka anime and manga is crap tier (but then again only magical girl crap I ever liked was Utena which I love), and I think Stein's Gate is really really bad (just a show about incredibly horribly characterized waifus). I mean I get that I am not on the majority side, but I still maintain people are mostly only overreacting to silly gore in Mirai Nikki to discriminate against. I am sure some people have much more objective reasons but that and Yuno seem to be what has everyone in a tizzy imo. I mean Madoka is basically a messiah figure |
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Jul 9, 2013 2:50 PM
#149
It's impossible to level Madoka with Mirai Nikki. There are objective methods to evaluate the quality of writing in a story, and the difference between the two is monumental. |
Jul 9, 2013 3:31 PM
#150
Going off topic with the whole mirai nikk, but I just finished watching Kotonoha no Niwa. It was very good movie though the couple ain't mine favorite, but it sure was a good couple with great artistic like realistic. |
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