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Awesome episode, So glad Akira got Purple Mech and Cains is so Badass! |
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| Meh this seemed like a big troll leading to a 2nd season and the inevitable time skip. I'm not fond of time skips. Akira in the last one seems not able to fight just hack stuff. The others did little. L-Elf couldn't do nothing after being perfect. Cain is some weird non human thing and takes the last Valrave. Just opens a bunch of questions without good answers. |
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ThangLong said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: I think the NTR stuff is being over-exaggerated. In the preview we see them landing on some planet and there they will probably start the Third Galactic Empire. Rather than joining them i think they will act against them. That's assuming Magius is all bad though. Furthermore the VVV pilots are VVV-Tan's race now. So the pilots is ironically going to fight against their own people. There must be the reason why pissed off Oniichan hates human and I think that will gain Magius some sympathy. With hthis I sort-of-agree. If not for the rest of Magius, but Cain himself might end up switching sides. |
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| This season definitely could've gone an extra episode, as this episode was just a huge clusterf***. Not to mention how the Akira bit was done horribly. But hopefully next season will give us a full explanation of just what is going on with the Magus and the people inside the machines. Kudos to Saki for rejecting Haruto. Good for her. |
| Well this was certainly a wild ride. I thought the final episode...was kinda meh to be honest. As some have already said, it just felt like a big clusterfuck that could have been avoided. Maybe having one more episode would have helped... Anyways, I can't say I wasn't entertained. The anime had its ups and downs. I will say, however, that there's no way in the world any of you can convince me that this was the best anime you've seen this season. Please, go ahead and try. I'd love a good laugh. Edit: Oh, and before I forget...I did feel as if the preview for next season showed that the series does have the potential to be rather good. I just hope they don't mess it up in the same way I feel they did for the first season. |
| Just chill out and concentrate... |
| nice explaning @Dragon_Slayer_X I hope there wont be any NTR nxt season orelese i will be dropping season 2 , i want Haruto x saki till the end Season 2 preview was sure an Overkill ! |
| I'm so done with this show... I'm so glad the second season aires in October, more episodes would be just too much to stomach I guess. I'll miss the laughs though. |
| The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything. |
| Why, Saki, why? щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Geez, all I'm watching this show for by now is Saki and the lolz, and this is what I get? ._. |
| Protip: I don't really check the forums anymore, so if you want something, take it on my profile. Is it time for my long-awaited return to the forums? щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Nope™, probably not. |
| There are so many tsundere who watch this series, instead of saying "it's so bad it's good" just say "I like this series" or " it entertain me"...lolz |
joshua_maiJun 29, 2013 3:57 AM
| Hmmm. I think the presentation wasn't well made. The background story itself is interesting. Then again, it could be described as just being a case of points of view. It was told from the student's, so I guess it can be excused and comprehended that way, as being messy and stuff. Still, it was meh. Sourire said: bastek66 said: NTR incoming.Butthurt imminent I hate Haruto but if this seriously happens I'm dropping this show. Well, can't deny the logic, as the the blurbs and teaser at the end does provide plausible evidence to back it up. But then another episode had her fighting a Dorssia pilot 200 years from now? Hmmm. Either way, it doesn't seem like she's the type to fall for Haruto out of pure love and stay loyal to his cause... the Founder COULD be Cain or L-elf afterall. |
Koybz said: Entertaining finale to a fairly entertaining show. 7/10 I'll watch season two, I guess. Yvese said: This pic says it all It really does. That's actually funny cuz it's true, missing a bit here and there, but summed up well. Surely the producers are thinking the same... |
Genix said: Hmmm. I think the presentation wasn't well made. The background story itself is interesting. Then again, it could be described as just being a case of points of view. It was told from the student's, so I guess it can be excused and comprehended that way, as being messy and stuff. Still, it was meh. Sourire said: bastek66 said: NTR incoming.Butthurt imminent I hate Haruto but if this seriously happens I'm dropping this show. Well, can't deny the logic, as the the blurbs and teaser at the end does provide plausible evidence to back it up. But then another episode had her fighting a Dorssia pilot 200 years from now? Hmmm. Either way, it doesn't seem like she's the type to fall for Haruto out of pure love and stay loyal to his cause... the Founder COULD be Cain or L-elf afterall. NOT Dorssia. Third Galactic Empire. Dorssia has been annexed to it(hence why its coat of arms is only a PART of Galctic empire's CoA. There's there's certain subtle foreshadowing at the Third Galactic Empire being started by Shouko. The most likely situation is that 200 years latter, the conflict is about a country of vampires(and vampire symathizers) versus human-purists, which would explain on why Saki has the same mark as Cain on her clothes and why Cain might end up on the "good side". |
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VolsVols said: It's hard to imagine Cain on the "good side" as he has explicitly stated himself to be part of the Magius order, and there's really nothing to suggest they are anything but an evil shadow governement Unless you are saying Cain will defect and be part of the golden seven The main thing is - we do NOT know the exact "motivation" of Cain, right now. He keep speaking about "for his clan" stuff, so it might be that he and his "race" is simply "well intentioned extremists" seeking survival of their species or something. Magius, by the way is just generic term to describe the vampire race in this anime - all of the VVV pilots are Magius too. NOt to mention that unless Cain dies, he is VVV-2 Pilot. |
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It says Valvrave 02 RM-20 Silver + Gold  Not to mention the kanji says "two" |
| Even if Cain ends up being the well intentioned terrorist, he killed a whole bunch of the students with that poisoned gas. Hard to believe they will forgive him for that, but anything is possible with this show. One thing that has been on my mind a couple episodes back, when Kriemhild(she must be Cain's first officer on his ship?) walks into that dark room and finds H-neun hiding there, then he asks her if she wants to have tea. Was that a lovers rendezvous, or was it Cains room and they were both searching it? Im pretty sure a few times in the past when Cain was talking about the Valvraves beside her, she seemed kinda shocked by his knowledge. Perhaps she and H-neun already realize Cain is doing something not in the best interests of Dorassia? |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Fai, referring to your post above, i may be missing something but wasn't Saki fighting the reformed Dorssia who are still unnamed. They never named themselves Third Galactic Empire. Another thing is that, the unit Cain piloted is actually labeled as Unit 00, so either it is given a overhaul and renamed to Valvrave 02, he could well be piloting another Valvrave. Any thoughts on this? Isn't the third galactic Empire the one one Haruto and founded and Saki is a part of it, at least that's the impression i get from the two time skips. The old guy only said "our glorious empire", he didn't mention anything specifically. The Glorious Empire is not dorssia - look at their coat of arms. Dorssian coat of arms is INCORPORATED into it - not the prominent one. THat alone signifies Dorssia having been assimilated into the empire. niaxato said: Even if Cain ends up being the well intentioned terrorist, he killed a whole bunch of the students with that poisoned gas. Hard to believe they will forgive him for that, but anything is possible with this show. One word: L-ELf. They sure as hell forgave him for slaughtering half the school |
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Fai said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Fai, referring to your post above, i may be missing something but wasn't Saki fighting the reformed Dorssia who are still unnamed. They never named themselves Third Galactic Empire. Another thing is that, the unit Cain piloted is actually labeled as Unit 00, so either it is given a overhaul and renamed to Valvrave 02, he could well be piloting another Valvrave. Any thoughts on this? Isn't the third galactic Empire the one one Haruto and founded and Saki is a part of it, at least that's the impression i get from the two time skips. The old guy only said "our glorious empire", he didn't mention anything specifically. The Glorious Empire is not dorssia - look at their coat of arms. Dorssian coat of arms is INCORPORATED into it - not the prominent one. THat alone signifies Dorssia having been assimilated into the empire. I never said they were Dorssia but rather their new reformed form which was unnamed. But now that i look at those two time skip again i am getting a little confused. The 2nd time skip is "Year 211 of the Third Galactic Empire" and the first one was "Year 214 of .......". But if it interpret from what Saki says then, "Haruto is the founder" as "He is the first of them" who "lost a lot of comrades in the battle of module-77" and where "he met the Magius" as they don't even know that term until now so Cain must be the first Magius they met. Did the third Galactic Empire assimilate all the other countries/groups/whatever else is out there and Saki is later fighting against a rebellion/revolution or something like that? The more i think on this the more i get confused as how thing could be............any good theories on your side? VolsVols said: It says Valvrave 02 RM-20 Silver + Gold Not to mention the kanji says "two" Ah thanks can't believe i missed that. I always thought that was Valvrave 00. |
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| Wow, I didn't actually expected Akira to be the pilot of the purple Valvrave. And what a cool weapon/power too! Pretty good series overall. I'm very confused about the ending though. On to season two, I guess. 7/10 |
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| So Akira's Weapon can hack any system with her hummingbird huh. Cliffhanger ending :o Can't wait for Fall. |
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| Great episode. I can't wait for second season |
OmnixTSC said: Well this was certainly a wild ride. I thought the final episode...was kinda meh to be honest. As some have already said, it just felt like a big clusterfuck that could have been avoided. Maybe having one more episode would have helped... Anyways, I can't say I wasn't entertained. The anime had its ups and downs. I will say, however, that there's no way in the world any of you can convince me that this was the best anime you've seen this season. Please, go ahead and try. I'd love a good laugh. The season's still not yet over, and I don't see this as being the "Best" of the season for me, but it's the first 10 I was able to give this season. Which is odd, as I normally can give a lot of 10's out. I have a feeling the shows that will be ending will end up getting 10's too, and I'll be ranking them above this. The reason this worked is...I have no clue. But it's the first show of the season where I actually felt EXCITED. Oh wait! Scratch that! I forgot about Yuyushiki! That was actually my real first 10 of the season xD And it's definitely better than this. But still, I gotta give this show some credit. Spring has been so lackluster, I was really beginning to believe I had lost the spark that made anime fun for a moment there. But after watching some clips from Love Live and Nichijou, I realized that wasn't it. Just this season hasn't been all that great. Which I actually knew coming in. Summer...on the other hand. I am excite! Also, ShoukoxAkira shipping helped bring up the shows score a lot. I really never expected so much of that to happen in this show o_o Hoping Marie gets to see some stronger screentime next season! |
| Whoaaa, what an ending! It was still as crazy as the rest of the series, now we have some sort of powerful race of people, by the looks of things. I dunno, it was quite confusing, leaving us on a cliffhanger ending, but I absolutely loved this series! Can't wait for the second season!! |
| Well that was a great episode to close off the first season. Didnt expect Akira to be the next pilot though. Purple VVV is awesome with the hacking capabilities. The preview looks awesome with all the pilots in their suits. Cant wait to see who Magius really are. |
| Looking forward for the second season! 7/10 |
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| Evil cliffhanger :( Didn't expect Akira to be a Valvrave pilot... Damn, seeing L-Elf getting physically owned like that surprises me, considering the fact he's been the most OP character in the series. |
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vampko said: wait you gave this show a 10? oh god.. everybody has their own opinion on what they like but .. a masterpiece? -_-OmnixTSC said: Well this was certainly a wild ride. I thought the final episode...was kinda meh to be honest. As some have already said, it just felt like a big clusterfuck that could have been avoided. Maybe having one more episode would have helped... Anyways, I can't say I wasn't entertained. The anime had its ups and downs. I will say, however, that there's no way in the world any of you can convince me that this was the best anime you've seen this season. Please, go ahead and try. I'd love a good laugh. The season's still not yet over, and I don't see this as being the "Best" of the season for me, but it's the first 10 I was able to give this season. Which is odd, as I normally can give a lot of 10's out. I have a feeling the shows that will be ending will end up getting 10's too, and I'll be ranking them above this. The reason this worked is...I have no clue. But it's the first show of the season where I actually felt EXCITED. Oh wait! Scratch that! I forgot about Yuyushiki! That was actually my real first 10 of the season xD And it's definitely better than this. But still, I gotta give this show some credit. Spring has been so lackluster, I was really beginning to believe I had lost the spark that made anime fun for a moment there. But after watching some clips from Love Live and Nichijou, I realized that wasn't it. Just this season hasn't been all that great. Which I actually knew coming in. Summer...on the other hand. I am excite! Also, ShoukoxAkira shipping helped bring up the shows score a lot. I really never expected so much of that to happen in this show o_o Hoping Marie gets to see some stronger screentime next season! |
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| My inner sadist enjoyed L-Elf getting smacked around. Space-fairy Cain took over the Valvrave with a magical lemon. Nice. :3 I love this show. Wish we could have season 2 now. |
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Sourire said: vampko said: wait you gave this show a 10? oh god.. everybody has their own opinion on what they like but .. a masterpiece? -_-OmnixTSC said: Well this was certainly a wild ride. I thought the final episode...was kinda meh to be honest. As some have already said, it just felt like a big clusterfuck that could have been avoided. Maybe having one more episode would have helped... Anyways, I can't say I wasn't entertained. The anime had its ups and downs. I will say, however, that there's no way in the world any of you can convince me that this was the best anime you've seen this season. Please, go ahead and try. I'd love a good laugh. The season's still not yet over, and I don't see this as being the "Best" of the season for me, but it's the first 10 I was able to give this season. Which is odd, as I normally can give a lot of 10's out. I have a feeling the shows that will be ending will end up getting 10's too, and I'll be ranking them above this. The reason this worked is...I have no clue. But it's the first show of the season where I actually felt EXCITED. Oh wait! Scratch that! I forgot about Yuyushiki! That was actually my real first 10 of the season xD And it's definitely better than this. But still, I gotta give this show some credit. Spring has been so lackluster, I was really beginning to believe I had lost the spark that made anime fun for a moment there. But after watching some clips from Love Live and Nichijou, I realized that wasn't it. Just this season hasn't been all that great. Which I actually knew coming in. Summer...on the other hand. I am excite! Also, ShoukoxAkira shipping helped bring up the shows score a lot. I really never expected so much of that to happen in this show o_o Hoping Marie gets to see some stronger screentime next season! 10 is the best score I can give it. I don't really take stock in 'masterpiece'. I think it's better than "Great", that's really all. There are definitely shows I've given a 10 to that I think deserve the 'Masterpiece" like Love Live or Toradora, but I give 10's to stuff I think surpass "great". Not my fault MAL has rating descriptors that jump too much If I were to rate this out of 100 probably 90/100 overall. |
| Just want to say again the seiyuu in this episode are great, and in particularly Yuuki Aoi who voices Akira. I read that she even called her mom when she knew that she got a major role in a mecha show -- and I think her VA skills are getting better and better! |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Just want to say again the seiyuu in this episode are great, and in particularly Yuuki Aoi who voices Akira. I read that she even called her mom when she knew that she got a major role in a mecha show -- and I think her VA skills are getting better and better! I had a nerdgasm when I finally looked up her VA. Another great VA joining in the SRW mecha Goodness Yay for cross series interaction |
| I did not check the previous 14 pages of comments in this thread, but I wonder if anybody talked about the significance of using the ED "Boku janai" in this episode. Besides the fact it sounds cool, you have also got to note the first lyrics that got sung is "Shiritaku nai shiritaku nai hontou wa shiritai" which means "I don't want to know, I don't want to know - no, the truth is I want to know." I take this to signify the mind of Akira, who really wants to know about human warmth and the outside world but said she did not want to be bothered and just wanted to be left alone. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
VolsVols said: Dorsian coat of arms is It's not part of this Look closer into the middle coat of arms, as well as one on the side - same symbol is repated in both, but NOT as prominent one. Its common practice upon when one of two similarly sized empires assimilates the other. Also yeah, The "Founder" is Haruto. But that does NOT rule out Cain being one of Golden Seven - its a classic Seven Samurai inspired set -up - recruiting an enemy is not beyond that. After all Haruto somehow goes from "I am a monster" to founding what seems like VVV-based country, with symbol from Cain's Neck no less. |
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vampko said: Sourire said: wait you gave this show a 10? oh god.. everybody has their own opinion on what they like but .. a masterpiece? -_- 10 is the best score I can give it. I don't really take stock in 'masterpiece'. I think it's better than "Great", that's really all. There are definitely shows I've given a 10 to that I think deserve the 'Masterpiece" like Love Live or Toradora, but I give 10's to stuff I think surpass "great". Not my fault MAL has rating descriptors that jump too much If I were to rate this out of 100 probably 90/100 overall. To each his own, though I certainly don't agree with the way you rate things, haha. To me, that provides room for giving shows scores they don't deserve if you do things like score them based on the particular season they aired during. This is why I tend to score things based on the other shows I've seen and based on what the show itself has brought to the fold. Valvrave didn't do anything terribly new, which you can't fault it for at this day and age. The combination of plot devices made it stand out in spite of this. The execution being poor doesn't help its case very much, either. As I said before, though, to each his own. I can't find myself giving Valvrave more than a 7/10, though I feel like I'm being much more lenient than I should considering how many episodes I absolutely didn't like. I'll probably change it to 6/10, putting it right up there with my opinion on Project K and SAO. |
| Just chill out and concentrate... |
| 1/10 This show gave me cancer. |
SantaBla said: How serious is the cancer? Hopefully it does not kill you so that you will still be alive for the second season LOL1/10 This show gave me cancer. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
OmnixTSC said: vampko said: Sourire said: wait you gave this show a 10? oh god.. everybody has their own opinion on what they like but .. a masterpiece? -_- 10 is the best score I can give it. I don't really take stock in 'masterpiece'. I think it's better than "Great", that's really all. There are definitely shows I've given a 10 to that I think deserve the 'Masterpiece" like Love Live or Toradora, but I give 10's to stuff I think surpass "great". Not my fault MAL has rating descriptors that jump too much If I were to rate this out of 100 probably 90/100 overall. To each his own, though I certainly don't agree with the way you rate things, haha. To me, that provides room for giving shows scores they don't deserve if you do things like score them based on the particular season they aired during. This is why I tend to score things based on the other shows I've seen and based on what the show itself has brought to the fold. Valvrave didn't do anything terribly new, which you can't fault it for at this day and age. The combination of plot devices made it stand out in spite of this. The execution being poor doesn't help its case very much, either. As I said before, though, to each his own. I can't find myself giving Valvrave more than a 7/10, though I feel like I'm being much more lenient than I should considering how many episodes I absolutely didn't like. I'll probably change it to 6/10, putting it right up there with my opinion on Project K and SAO. I think this show's just a special exception for me probably. I may end up bringing it's rating down later for all I know. Wouldn't be the first time. |
Sourire said: vampko said: wait you gave this show a 10? oh god.. everybody has their own opinion on what they like but .. a masterpiece? -_-OmnixTSC said: Well this was certainly a wild ride. I thought the final episode...was kinda meh to be honest. As some have already said, it just felt like a big clusterfuck that could have been avoided. Maybe having one more episode would have helped... Anyways, I can't say I wasn't entertained. The anime had its ups and downs. I will say, however, that there's no way in the world any of you can convince me that this was the best anime you've seen this season. Please, go ahead and try. I'd love a good laugh. The season's still not yet over, and I don't see this as being the "Best" of the season for me, but it's the first 10 I was able to give this season. Which is odd, as I normally can give a lot of 10's out. I have a feeling the shows that will be ending will end up getting 10's too, and I'll be ranking them above this. The reason this worked is...I have no clue. But it's the first show of the season where I actually felt EXCITED. Oh wait! Scratch that! I forgot about Yuyushiki! That was actually my real first 10 of the season xD And it's definitely better than this. But still, I gotta give this show some credit. Spring has been so lackluster, I was really beginning to believe I had lost the spark that made anime fun for a moment there. But after watching some clips from Love Live and Nichijou, I realized that wasn't it. Just this season hasn't been all that great. Which I actually knew coming in. Summer...on the other hand. I am excite! Also, ShoukoxAkira shipping helped bring up the shows score a lot. I really never expected so much of that to happen in this show o_o Hoping Marie gets to see some stronger screentime next season! Considering the amount of shitposting and people slapping 1/10's on it probably far outnumber those giving it 10/10 I fail to see the issue. It all balances out in the end. This is one of the most low-balled shows in terms of reception I have ever seen and I'm honestly used to this shit with Sunrise productions now and how people regularly act like manchilds in reaction to them with this forced over the top hate like it's extra special deserving of scorn. For the record I only have a small handful of shows that I gave 1/10 too and even then it was because they were hack job U.S edit versions of the show that were so utterly mangled and changed in context with re-scored phoned in synthesizer music and completely rewritten scripts that I could see no other option. |
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