Zetsuen no Tempest Episode 24 Discussion

flamingo-chan said:
In the last chapter of the manga (taken from the manga thread because I'm lazy):
- Mahiro and Yoshino passed their university entrance exams.
- Hakaze gets a driving license. After Yoshino and Mahiro know they are accepted in college Hakaze appears to give them a ride.
- Tetsuma, Junichirou and Natsumura think that Yamamoto and Samon are in a relationship
- Aliens send a message congratulating the humans on passing the "test"
- We see a scene of Yu-chan and Hanemura on a train
- Mahiro introduces his girlfriend called Mimori to Yoshino and Hakaze who are really surprised. Mahiro jokes saying that he was afraid to introduce her to Yoshino in case he steals her but Mimori looks at Yoshino and says she's not interested in him.
- Yoshino tells Hakaze to look for other guys who will probably be better than him.
- Hakaze still doesn't give up on Yoshino even if he doesn't show signs on reciprocating her feelings.
- Manga ends with Hanemura arriving and Mahiro introducing his gf to Hanemura and viceversa. The group walks while we read the phrase "The beginning is ending, the ending is beginning"
To be continued in the spin-off?

symbv said:

- My interpretation is that Yoshino is unsure about the love from Hakaze. He thinks he is not worth her love (he asked her that there should be many men better than him) or perhaps her love will not last (came in a short burst of passion during the tense moment facing the tree) but Hakaze confirms he is the only man who can "handle her". I don't see her proposing a date though, so I don't see any scene of Yoshino rejecting her date proposal (because there isn't one). My feeling is Yoshino and Hakaze will still pair up, but anime makes it much clearer. I also love how Mahiro encourages Yoshino to go for Hakaze in the anime.

Fallen_Lullaby said:
Um I believe that right after Mahiro introduces Mimori Hakaze asks Yoshino for them two to seriously "date" as in go out right?

And can you also please confirm that in the last chapter Mahiro and Yoshino were in university right?

symbv said:
No, the Japanese "Tsukiau" here means "becoming a real couple", not just a single act of date. Hakaze is asking Yoshino to define their relationship as a couple instead of the current ambiguous state, and here Yoshino prevaricated as he is unsure of himself and also unsure of how much Hakaze means it.

Fallen_Lullaby said:
Oh I understand. But the way I pharaphrased it is actually the same meaning. I was confused when you said there was no proposing of date. Basically saying "I'm dating him" has the same meaning "We're together" or "He's my boyfriend". We're both right. Thank you anyways.

symbv said:
True, but someone said that Yoshino rejected Hakaze's proposing a date, which is quite different from saying Yoshino hesitates about going for a dating relationship with Hakaze. That's my point. But anyway, I believe the two will pair up too in the manga. It is just that the anime makes it clearer - and it is no less credible to me because it adds the part like Mahiro encouraging Yoshino to do so and how Yoshino seems to get his closure about Aika's departure.

symbv said:
^ I think he did not give her a clear answer there, and the manga ends soon after that conversation. I guess it is open to interpretation how the two will end up, although personally I prefer to see it in an optimistic light.

Fallen_Lullaby said:
Anyways, I mainly got most of the last chaps translations through comments in a Chinese boards back when the last chapter was out, but the raws hasn't been uploaded yet. And due to my crappy translator I got the gist from the comments thought he turned her down.

celestialrubies said:
Actually, the raws have already been uploaded buddy ;)

Hybridbloodszak said:
While I might have overhyped myself too much for a spectacle mind blowing ending, I wasn't left unfulfilled unlike some other series (cough... Psycho Pass... cough) They tied a lot of the loose ends; as a result the cast gets their happy endings. The characters had interesting story arcs that began and were concluded in a definite manner.

The gunshot just being on the arm and then him being completely fine felt like a bad red herring for forced drama and a cheap cliffhanger from last week.
I mean for 3 episodes we had basically a battle of deception through dialogue in the same location. I don't know any other show that has done that.

8 Dere Hakazes out of 10

Hybridbloodszak said:

I mean for 3 episodes we had basically a battle of deception through dialogue in the same location. I don't know any other show that has done that.

AiCon said:
^ It's too bad that they changed things and cut things out. I would have loved to see these animated. The one thing I really want to see is Mahiro's GF. I really do wonder what kind of girl she is and what she looks like.

Orulyon said:


She is in MAL. Mimori, Hayashi.
Imo, she does not resemble Aika at all. She has wavy twintails, and an lively sparkling personality. The only thing in common with Aika is the fact they look like to tease Mahiro.
Anyway here´s a picture of Mimori.

ainky said:

She is beautiful but seems a bit childish for Mahiro, although they seemed really happy together from what we have seen.

Hydnlife said:
This show started out great ended up (imo) being shit in the end.



6/10

Emvies said:
Start of this series was one of the best in 2012, but ending....was just fu**ed...

Really, I mean, at the start, MAIN CHARACTERS at least did something, and in the end?
They, were just siting around... lol...
The show was just ruined, when part 2 started after short break.

AngelsArcanum said:
The series has been mediocre almost the entire time. The first 3 episodes showed promise, but it's unconventional direction in the first half with very minimal action, conflict and even change was really dull. The dramatic irony worked adequately early on, but then it just dragged on and became very absurd. It was nice that we saw bits of Yoshino and Mahiro's past early on to show the circumstances that work with their friendship, but again, as I said, the present events were still very minor. Once episode 9 kicks in, things totally derail; the pacing becomes a mess as the final conflict of the first half showed up without much sense of accomplishment or actual progression, and then it's about 3/4 episodes of Mahiro, Yoshino and Samon trying to outwit each other with empty hypotheses and blasphemous logic along with a time-travel element...great... Then by the time the second half comes in, all of the initially intimidating antagonists become stock protagonists, the tone becomes goofier, the pacing beats around the bush since they have almost nothing to do, there's even more ground-less speculation, there is almost no tension or suspense whatsoever and an extremely (excuse my strong distaste) dumb plot twist with the mage of Exodus' identity. Some of the socio-political elements were good for world building and the scheme with Hanamura and Hakaze vs Genesis was a well reasoned tactical approach to trying to invoke major change with a world of skeptics , but they don't encompass much of an episode, let alone 12. The actual ending for the show lacked a lot of impact, had bizarre planning in comparison to the simple Hanamura & Hakaze dynamic and felt sort of tacky and almost anti-climactic. Lastly there's the Shakespeare elements which are so excessive, pretentious and uninspired, that it makes the series look incapable of holding its own and trying to sound more insightful than it actually is. The one major redeeming factor was Hanamura; while initially he was comic relief who got picked on by everyone else, he was a refreshing change from the dull cast, and he gradually grows into a stronger and independent young man. The part where Hanamura beats the crap out of Yoshino and Mahiro was one of the most rewarding moments of the series, those 2 were angsty and drab leads with half-baked morals that could use a good reality check, and I was jumping for joy when Hanamura did it.

Anyways, this series has my mind all over the place, as it was a huge mess, and I feel as though coming off of wrapping up the series, my articulation and logic is scattered as well. Another thing that devastates me is that Kyo Shirodaira wrote this, his other works are leagues above Blast of Tempest, and I'm astonished at how weak the series was.
I felt the series would've been better at 12 episodes, provided there was more action, gradual accomplishment, smoother pacing, less cop-outs and coherent and factual knowledge.

Despite all this, it was still entertaining and coherent ENOUGH to get a passing 5/10 grade from me. I hope Shirodaira's next project makes up for this.

BentoLegend said:
I for one enjoyed this series enough that I would definitely recommend it or watch it with a friend.

After being let down on 2 endings yesterday from two completely different animes, this one brought my hopes back up a bit.