Why do people not seem to like Asuna very much?

ssjokg said:


Asuna gets a new look in ALO if that counts:


Not enough I guess.

ssjokg said:

Asuna:82-60-83
Sugu:82-62-81

Pick what you like.

animetyphoon88 said:


Eh idk if i like that. Im guessing thats from the LN? And the Undine one was pretty cool

ssjokg said:


Is the Undine part for my post or Airstyles,but Asuna is an Undine,she is the one with the light blue hair.

And that will happen after she is saved.She also has another avatar but I dont remember how it looks like.

DarthAbysius said:


does she? I thought that like Liz and Silica she just transferred over her char from SAO and just used that one, although I could be wrong, she does mention that she is tired of being called "The Berserk Healer"

ssjokg said:


wiki:
"Her Undine avatar is from her main account that was transferred from SAO. She also made a new account and trained a new character from scratch: the Sylph «Erika». The reason she created a new character was extremely simple: Sometimes she wanted to change her appearance too. «Erika» specialized in melee and had most of its ability points devoted to dagger skills, so it was more suited for duels than Asuna which was a half healer."

DarthAbysius said:
(nor would she have spent near as much time in game per day aka: not all of it) for any other character she makes to catch up in the next few years.

ssjokg said:
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Kirito with his new avatar is at 80% of what he used to be.(after Mother's Rosario)
Asuna since has more resposibilities I guess she would be around 60% maybe?

DarthAbysius said:


... I'm just gonna come right out and call bullshit on that. I guess since the strength increase system is different, it makes a bit on sense, but seriously how much easier is it to get strong now.. It took him two years of virtually non-stop grinding to get to where he was, and now less than a year later of playing semi-seriously he is almost at the same spot..... wow. I guess their experience would streamline the process somewhat, but still, it shouldn't be THAT much different.

ssjokg said:


We dont know how the skills are raised so who knows.And Aincard 2.0's monsters are stronger so they may get a lot more exp than before.

DarthAbysius said:


I suppose the SAO players(well some of them) are trying to finish Aincrad, so that is entirely possible. Although.... kirito does know , so maybe he went in there and *ahem* streamlined the leveling process for him and his friends XD

DarthAbysius said:
... I'm just gonna come right out and call bullshit on that. I guess since the strength increase system is different, it makes a bit on sense, but seriously how much easier is it to get strong now.. It took him two years of virtually non-stop grinding to get to where he was, and now less than a year later of playing semi-seriously he is almost at the same spot..... wow. I guess their experience would streamline the process somewhat, but still, it shouldn't be THAT much different.

ssjokg said:


While possible, whats the point of making a new avatar in order to "play fair" if he can use that.And put that in spoiler since it's WAYYYY worse than Aincard 2.0

Takuan_Soho said:

If I recall properly, AOL's strength system is very much more simple than SAO and it is particularly suited to both Kirito's SAO experience and his natural strength (reflex speed) so he would become stronger much faster in ALO than he did in SAO. This is the reason Lyfa is so powerful in the game. Her Kendou practice had already conditioned her reflexes to respond to a sword fight.

The reason that Kirito is so strong is that he was one of the first hard core VR users and on top of that he was also one of the youngest players when it started. So he has both the experience and his body was able to adapt to it naturally. Think of real games for comparison. They younger you start playing, generally the better you can become because your reflexes are still developing and can adapt to the actions (texting is another example). It is relatively harder for older people to pick up these skills for this reason (though with effort they can).

DarthAbysius said:


my bad, fixed.

I was more saying it as a joke, I really doubt he would do something like that. It just kind of annoys me that all the work and danger they went through to get strong and survive... it just seems kinda bullshit that the author would undermine all that. I know he had to do something to make them stay strong, but oh well. As a side note though, I wonder why kirito didn't just keep his old avatar for nostalgia if nothing else.

ssjokg said:


Well he is almost the same as before and after the patch that added the OSS he started replicating the Dual Blade skills.And they bought the same house again so I think he and the rest of the company are fine with that.

DarthAbysius said:


I suppose, maybe I'm just weak like that but I don't think I could force myself to actually delete my character from SAO. Move on? sure. Create others? sure. But I could never actually get rid of that original, I would need to use it every so often, if only to remember the original Aincrad.

ssjokg said:
]I a reason to delete one char in order to create the same again.Keep the old one make a totally new one.Like what Asuna did.

DarthAbysius said:
I suppose, maybe I'm just weak like that but I don't think I could force myself to actually delete my character from SAO. Move on? sure. Create others? sure. But I could never actually get rid of that original, I would need to use it every so often, if only to remember the original Aincrad.

DarthAbysius said:


Well, yeah I would do what Asuna did for sure. But I can see how what kirito did would be a coping mechanism, just get a fresh start with "Kirito" and use that to help him move on from SAO. Is it just me though, or did everyone seem to get over SAO a bit too quickly. I mean, the novels were great and all that, and he did showcase a few people who were.... corrupted by SAO () but most people just seemed to go "oh well two years of my life and untold emotion trauma while in game. meh."

Takuan_Soho said:


Kirito never liked that he got part of his power in SAO because he was a beater, and he definitely felt like he was a cheater in ALO, so when given the opportunity, and being a gamer at heart (which is why he and Kayaba bounded somewhat, they were both gamers to their souls, its the reason Kayaba did not mind as much losing to Kirito he had cheated in the first match and it left a bitter taste in his mouth) he wanted to prove his skills without having to cheat. To leave no question in his or anyone else's mind that he was actually that good.

This is covered several times in the novels, and may pop in 24 (though I doubt it), but definitely should happen in 25 (though with this adaptation probably not).

ssjokg said:

I know Silica has a side story about that,Whether it's canon or not I dont know.Most of them like that old man and Klein were worried about their jobs and Kirito with Asuna...care only about each other.

If there is one thing that I wanted to see was Kirito visiting Sachi's grave.I am sure he could find it either by asking Kikuoka or using Yui's hacking skills

DarthAbysius said:


Yeah, that definatly would have been a great thing to add in the novels, going to visit Sachi's grave after getting out of SAO, it would have really brought home what people sacrificed in the game. And also that's what I mean, they were worried about their jobs, and the people they left behind and stuff, and at one point there was even a mention dropped that a few people developped phobias of games. They were put under observatioin for a while after getting out, but my problem was there was really no indication that any of them needed it. You would think that being trapped in a virtual world where you faced death almost daily (unless you were one of the people who sat around and waited to the front line guilds to win...) would scar you, and even if you did sit around, the fact of being trapped in a game with no way out, for years, not knowing what was happening to your body as your life slipped away would have traumatized the people, and had them go through therapy on escape, at least SOME of them. But everyone seemed to go "meh" and get on with their lives.

SchmidytheMini said:
Soooo I'm getting the feeling no one is an Asuna fan really lol

ssjokg said:

And their school is pretty much made for making sure none of them goes crazy.Many may hated Asuna's mother for saying something like this but she was telling the truth.

EstelleBright said:


HOW CAN YOU COMPETE WITH THESE!?

DarthAbysius said:


I know, that's why I said they were under observation :P. But the point I was trying to make is that except for a few extreme cases(and that offhand mention to a buch of them starting to hate/have phobias of VR games), no one appeared to have any lingering issues, nothing debilitating anyway. Where was the PTSD? Where were the strange personality traites that being in that enviroment would inevitably give you? You know that stuff. But oh well, it doesn't bother me THAT much, it was just something I was wondering about.

animetyphoon88 said:


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animetyphoon88 said:

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animetyphoon88 said:


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EstelleBright said:


HOW CAN YOU COMPETE WITH THESE!?

EstelleBright said:


HOW CAN YOU COMPETE WITH THESE!?

Ragix said:


Plus, how do you compete with this?

Kamina- said:

There :)

GuyFreakz said:
I'd love Suguha for myself, Kirito and Asuna is already a perfect pairing... And I can't live without those 2 melons!!

SchmidytheMini said:
Well the show is now over. Anyone change their opinion of Asuna? For better or worse?