Maoyuu Maou Yuusha Episode 9 Discussion

SayakaMagica said:
and the green spirit talking after the credits.

SeerHu said:
I want to ask a question, Could I ask whether the Demon Queen is Incarnation of the Ligt Spirit or She is the Sevant of Demons ?

thepath said:
I only watched 3 episodes, and found this anime to be very boring. Too many dialogs with no action, no feeling, and noting interesting.

However, the photo of torture scene here is making me change my mind. For people who already watched this, does this anime get better after ep 3 ?

Barion-Zara said:


I wonder who that blue skinned guy is? Never seen him in the manga.

Also wondering who was speaking at the end? And if that was Maou why was her voice different?

BEST EP YET :)

MalteseSwordsman said:
You know i actually believe the demon queen is the light spirit which would explain her compassion, scientific knowledge and her goal of achieving a set piece, She is like a Representative of god working in mysterious ways to move humanity and in this case also demonity forward towards a better future does anybody else agree with me on this ?

wishkas said:
Hum... If demon king ritual is all about light how can it be dangerous ( she asked to head maid to kill her if things go wrong...)

ao_no_exo said:

Warning, long picture

PaninaManina said:


I think it's Maou true form (spiritual form).



When I saw that scene I thought, "and what about de good forces of the world? We only seen the demons, where are the angels?".
It might be that, in some superior plane, the two sides coexist blended in one another. What think about this?

Monad said:
Definitely from the strongest episodes this series has had. Poor girl had to get those nasty slashes. People who authorize themselves as God's representatives are abominations.

I feel conflicted about seeing this blue guy. It feels kind of late to introduce some character that has grand dreams of conquering all.



I think the guy just got his religious feelings hurt honestly.



What a lot of crap.
First you are probably religious and get all upset because they weren't shown as nice guys but religion wasn't shown as anything. Those playing representatives of religions are shown as dicks.
Second cut the philosophical bullshit about "liberal", "autocracy" and all that. The speech was clearly personal. She simply talked from her heart. And telling them to decide for themselves whether they wanted to stone her or not is common sense since most people just go with it out of fear of any consequences. Her speech simply helped as a motivation to fight that fear.
And no the kings position isn't that simple. Yeah if she was given to them by him he has a share of responsibility but saying that making the church his enemy was nothing great is ridiculous. Is like you never open a book about such politics. Church was the only thing that can motivate war against you even if other nations weren't keen on attacking you, is not like now that most people aren't that fanatical with religion. Also if some nations had something against you then you give them the perfect excuse while alienating allies. You could have kept your peace by avoiding giving them any chances or excuse to a conflict.

And yeah of course they gave her too much time to speak but well how else can you have a speech moment when you are getting taken like that? Even if it seems kind of strange the scene can only happen if the evil doers give you time to speak.
And yeah he was comical evil etc but hey have you met some evil shitheads? They really can be very comical disgusting especially those "burn the witch" types.
Btw Nazi's can be an easy target too, that doesn't mean they weren't disgusting little fuckers. They ain't easy targets because of nothing, they put themselves there.

Even the attempt to slightly imply that there was some type of due process during the inquisition that was worth any slight of shit makes you seem like a freaking idiot.
As about the authors nationality. That's irrelevant bullshit and you know it and just makes you seem slightly racist by saying that he can't touch a matter simply because of where he was born.

Evilincarnate said:

The story focusses on the concepts pertaining to War. Such as,
- The belief that my side is right & other is wrong (Which most often is mistaken belief spread & promoted by those who profit from the War) [This is highlighted in the 1st episode]
- How some parties become so dependant on the War that they will be damaged if it ends. [A point that is repeatedly brought up esp. with regards to the Humans]
- How War with a greater enemy brings smaller enemies together. [Brought up with regards to the Demons]
- How certain authorities promote the War as they gain a lot of profit from it & do not look for other avenues of profit making them further dependent on it. [This concers the "Merchant's Alliance", the "Church of the Light Spirit" & the "Central Nations"

The Maou after her extensive research had come to the conclusion that the War was fairly pointless & wished to end it while save both the nations & bringing about a better future.


Now coming to the points raised.

- The "Winter King" - NOT a tyrant. He's shown to be a generous king. You have to realize that on paper the concept of Serfdom isn't all that bad. But, the reality of it is different as the nobles exploit the privileges given to them. As, such the King won't see a fault in it. Had the King had time to focus on the reality, he might have attempted to find a solution. But, they are too occupied with the War & what little breathing room they get is used up in focusing on national level problems such as diseases, food supply etc.

I support Monad's point. The King cannot make a stand without it having repercussions for his country. The southern kingdoms have enough problems even without having made the Church their enemy.

- Ever heard of the Newspaper, Television, Novels & the Internet. You don't have to live under a system to understand about it. Also, Christianity has the 2nd highest follower-ship in the World. It is followed by people even in Japan. Heck, they even have Catholic schools. So, get some facts before judging.

- Also, the Church in the series while based on the Christian Church still differs in 1 critical point. It is the ONLY religion in the Human World. They are too used to their position of power & authority & depend too much on the War as without a defined absolute evil, the people's faith in the Church & dependence on it would weaken. Thus, their evil actions to eliminate the person they view as a threat. It is not unheard of or unimaginable that people who are too used to power, try to use their authority to eliminate those they perceive as threats.

- As far as the people's reaction (Including the King & Lady Knight) is concerned. This speech worked ONLY because it is the Southern Kingdoms, Specifically yhe Winter Nation. The people are torn b/w the Main Church (Which has little or no contact with the people othe than start the Holy Crusades & have made no real positive contributions to their lives) & The "Crimson Scholar" (Who has only ever contributed to make their lives better). The Big Sister Maid having had many experiences both as a Serf & as an attendant of the "Crimson Scholar" sees both the point of view of the Serfs & of a free person. So, she explained to the people that freedom doesn't refer to answering to no one, It means doing thing because you choose to & then bearing the consequences for your actions. She told them that they could no longer hide behind the excuse that they did so because they were told. If they obeyed a command, the responsibility of the consequences is still upon them as they would be responsible for the safety of their families but they would have to carry the burden of killing their "Savior".

This in-turn inspired the King to take a stand against the tyranny of the Church & Central Nations, thus his decisions.
As far as the Lady Knight is concerned, once the King had given his support, she had the freedom to act as she wanted to without sacrificing her position as Prioress & declared the "Crimson Scholar" as a "Saint" reinforcing the peoples faith in the "Crimson Scholar" & the rightness of their decision.

Ganjana said:


Overall, I liked this episode because it wasn't as detached as some of the other ones and moved things foreward (espicially for the Winter King who now was forced to take a stand and through that gained the affection of the people). BUT I had some problems:

1. Isn't it a bit problematic, that now everyone thinks that Maou was a serf? There has to come a time, when she has to reveal her true identity and that will complicate this matter, wont it? Wasn't Maid Ane risking the big plan for her own agenda and individual crisis? I wonder what will become of that....

2. The concept of sefdom (I think it's an equivalent of the medieval feudal structures) is not really criticised, is it? I must confess, I was a bit confused, somtimes I thought she was saying the system was bad, and then she was saying, the people themselves are to blame. I got where the speech was heading (evolving and not letting being ordered to do something be an excuse), but the way she got there was a bit confusing. Maybe someone can help me out there.

Well... that was enough babbling from my part. Hope it wasn't too tiring. :)

Pheneks said:
What an amazing episode! I was not expecting the older maid to stand up for herself like that, I was expecting the Hero to save her. Fantastically done though! I just adore episodes like these.

I have a pet peeve with this show, though. Why the hell is it only 12 episodes? They could run this for ages and I'd tune in every week!

GC9000 said:
Loved this episode and Maid's speech!!! So did anyone else rage and feel like jumping through the screen when they were beating her? Man...that was hard to watch

MusashiRose said:
THAT SPEECH.