Monogatari Series: First Season
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| Urgh let's try not to descend this into some bullshit ethic's thread. I do agree it's just art so people should stop crying about it. If you don't like it that's fine you're entitled to your opinion but just stay away from it and leave others be. Japan just has cultural differences when it comes to this sort of thing so naturally it clashes with our views. It's a very gray area though, I don't think it makes you a pedophile though when it's just art. I somewhat consider myself a bit of a lolicon but I do not want to have sex with children. |
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Digglett said: Cratex said: Morality issues aside, laws against owning and watching child pornography have nothing to do with a 'victim'. Morality issues however, are the main point - most of society considers child porn a problem and those who enjoy it a potential problem. Potential. Isn't that what they said about violent media outlets, violent video games and such? You can't arrest someone for doing such things because there is potential. Morally speaking of course, I still find it wrong. You'd essentially be arresting everyone for having potential. (shrug) for good or bad, our society seems to have a double standard regarding violence and sex. Whatever, last I checked there was no laws against owing violent movies but there are laws against owning child pornography. I won't argue the issue regarding 'potential' with you. |
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MisterDonut said: Urgh let's try not to descend this into some bullshit ethic's thread. There are only three valid topics of conversation - religion, politics, and sex. Everything else is just button sorting and bottle washing ;) MisterDonut said: I do agree it's just art so people should stop crying about it. If you don't like it that's fine you're entitled to your opinion but just stay away from it and leave others be. So, this is a common refrain I've noticed here on MAL - people who voice a dissenting opinion are told to just go away. Rather small minded, I think. Look, I'm engaged in the story. I like the characters. However, like a couple of others here, I found something objectionable and have stated such. Is that so threatening to you that you have to insist I go away? |
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| I can't wait for Kizumonogatari. Shinobu had all the atentions in this episode, it's difficult to find a post that remembers Karen's problem. |
Cratex said: Digglett said: Cratex said: Morality issues aside, laws against owning and watching child pornography have nothing to do with a 'victim'. Morality issues however, are the main point - most of society considers child porn a problem and those who enjoy it a potential problem. Potential. Isn't that what they said about violent media outlets, violent video games and such? You can't arrest someone for doing such things because there is potential. Morally speaking of course, I still find it wrong. You'd essentially be arresting everyone for having potential. (shrug) for good or bad, our society seems to have a double standard regarding violence and sex. Whatever, last I checked there was no laws against owing violent movies but there are laws against owning child pornography. I won't argue the issue regarding 'potential' with you. Yeah double standards rule society. Oh well, dropping subject entirely. We need more Shinobu! |
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salamander_natsu said: it's difficult to find a post that remembers Karen's problem. ROTFLMAO. Okay, with that I'll gladly shut up! |
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Cratex said: So, this is a common refrain I've noticed here on MAL - people who voice a dissenting opinion are told to just go away. Rather small minded, I think. Look, I'm engaged in the story. I like the characters. However, like a couple of others here, I found something objectionable and have stated such. Is that so threatening to you that you have to insist I go away? Whoa I'm not saying you guys who don't like it should just go away, but once it's discussed to a certain point it just feels pointless to continue. Bleh if I gave that impression I apologise as I'm generally shit at getting my thoughts across. But fuck it I'm going to drop debating this and get back on topic. Nisemonogatari, fuck yes, I love it, YES! Kizumonogatari, the fucking wait is going to hurt. |
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jeroz said: Guys, just drop it, Yumekichi11 just hates vampires. It's just personal bias and no point arguing over it. Back on topic Really love the conversation between Shinobu and Araragi, hinting a lot at their history and their abnormal relationship. Can't wait for Kizumonogatari now I can understand where Yumekichi is coming from. For some people there's a line that shouldn't be crossed even if it's different culture with a different set of moral values and standards. Pretty much everyone knows that Shinobu is a reincarnation/remnant of an ancient adult vampire. But for some people that scene is above their threshold of tolerance. I myself didn't see too much problem with it other than some of the suggestive taunts that Shinobu was doing. There was one point when she was also toying with Araragi using her naked childlike appearance. But overall the scene was mainly just a typical Japanese bathhouse ritual with a long serious conversation. I really was more shocked by Shinobu's conversational skills than her nude appearance. Shinobu being tormented by Oshino's knowledge sessions is now coming to fruition as she is advising Araragi on the supernatural situations. In Bakemonogatari that job belonged to Oshino himself. I would have much rather seen naked Hanazawa with her new hairstyle than Shinobu's runty naked body. Although Shinobu does have gorgeous hair as well. I'm just not really into Lolis at all. |
| Completely lmfao'd when I found out Aya Hirano wasn't playing Shinobu anymore. Anyways another great episode. Though it was a bit less random compared to the previous 3. Having Shinobu appear and her doing a naked flip was win though. Another loli vampire to add to the list. |
salamander_natsu said: I can't wait for Kizumonogatari. Shinobu had all the atentions in this episode, it's difficult to find a post that remembers Karen's problem. Who is Karen? jk As much as a love to fap to Shinobu I do agree that they should of toned down the fan-service (this is directed at the novel). What made Bakemonogatari great wasn't fan-service, what made Bakemonogatari so great and memorable was that they focused solely on showing us the supernatural world that is a major part of all of each character's everyday life but normal people don't realize. While Kizumonogatari still continues on the supernatural path we are focusing less on what spirit,demon, or ghost is going to make it's appearance and more on which girl is gonna show us her titties. |
VioLinkJan 28, 2012 8:18 PM
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Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet For someone who really hates this and keeps crying about it you were looking very hard at it to notice the few scenes that were not properly censored. The lady doth protest too much? I guess? It does not help that i consider you a massive hypocrite considering you were going nuts over Kobato and Maria from Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai last season. You were plastering their screenshots all over the forum and talking about them then (yes i said this before and i will again before you understand it). I seem to remember Kobato running about naked alot at times. That was full of loli fanservice and no those 2 were not 18 but you loved them. Whats this bullshit your spouting about "its because shes a vampire". You a bit of a twat aren't you? What is that all about? Because shes a vampire it somehow becomes worse? Are you ok in the head? I think your values are a bit messed up. I would bitch if she was a twilight vampire not because of this. You also said you read all the hentai stuff, and you honestly complain about this? You even check out the loli hentai stuff for her and then complain about it? I would of imagined it had a young her on the front cover yet you still read it? Its also a hentai doujin so were you reading it because you wanted to know about a random story that someone who is not the author of the series? Ah you said so much shit if i went into it i would actualy fill a page worth but sadly im human my life is limited and not that of a vampires you know the things you hate if you see their skin? So i will wrap this up. Untill you started spouting your crap there was no one who complained about this episode and you know most the comments were about the dialog, interactions, moving of the plot, new information, Shinobu speaking for the first time, people who have not read the Kizumonogatari novel wondering what happened between them? and how their relationship appears to us we also enjoyed Shafts normal abstract art and the list goes on and on. Then you go "OMFG SHES NAKED IN THE BATH WHAT KIND OF HELL IS THIS" I mean holy crap shes in the bath, she is at complete ease with Araragi their relationship is deeper than we ever knew, she refers to herself as his shadow as well, she is 400+ years old with the mentality of an adult. Whats that she has the body of a girl? I dont think you cared she was small last season, this season its still the same character with the same mentality. Oh and to top it off she is slightly screwing with Araragi and she also wanted to be pampered a bit by him which is why she had him wash her hair. You should try to read a little deeper into characters than "OMG smal vampirel girl naked in bath, BURN HER!" also stop staring at the naked "loli" scenes trying to find missed censors so you can cry about and actualy watch the anime. If you dont get it by now you never will but it was you that started this pointless crap everyone else liked this episode and her being naked was not even the big deal of the episode for pretty much all of us, there was alot more for us to pick from. I think your the one that needs to look at himself not us. |
DragoonDeusJan 28, 2012 8:38 PM
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| Oh lordy, here we go. OT: Dude, I'm totally modeling my bathroom after his. |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| The conversations were always hard to follow so its like you're left with a big chunk of missing info BUT DAT ART |
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Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. |
dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really. |
DragoonDeusJan 28, 2012 9:01 PM
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Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really.  |
dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really. <img src="http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/2/a/2a0ca-Good_Good_Let_the_Butt_hurt_flow_through.jpg" /> Oh look a star wars pic with someone elses wit on it, you should thank google for that. |
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Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really. <img src="http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/2/a/2a0ca-Good_Good_Let_the_Butt_hurt_flow_through.jpg" /> Oh look a star wars pic with someone elses wit on it, you should thank google for that. Here is another one.  |
Karhu said: What the fuck did I just watch. Simple, an anime, called Nisemonogatari. |
dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really. <img src="http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/2/a/2a0ca-Good_Good_Let_the_Butt_hurt_flow_through.jpg" /> Oh look a star wars pic with someone elses wit on it, you should thank google for that. Here is another one. <img src="http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/3/6/2/1/2/7/thw-43419601141.jpeg" /> These things are always fun shame its something you cant do yourself. Oh well couple pics to give me a smile, now off i go into the night. Once again fill out your anime list instead of trying to be clever with other people's ideas. |
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Slicer22 said: Maybe you should check your profile, I will get more personal from there on it. Bring it on! Profile only. I do not respond here to comments not worth it.dczzz said: Yeah OK and I assume it's their demand that got this episode like that, well at least SHAFT is taking fans to heart whereas sometimes or most often they did not. I see now.Yumekichi11 said: You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu.Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet |
Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Slicer22 said: dczzz said: Yumekichi11 said: Slicer22 said: I did not write that BTW. I don't see it anywhere on my posts I did. I just stated my points and did some R&D. I won't respond anymore than that.Yumekichi11 said: All the shit you just vomited over the internet You made the mistake of insulting a SHAFT anime. You should know that SHAFT fans get very butthurt when you talk bad about their precious animu. Nah just ignorant people annoy me, oh look i found another one. Go fill out your anime list or something random ignorant people. Oh and person (myself) makes a proper argument so he must be butthurt right? Could not just of made a counter argument to a dumb ass? Who knows really. <img src="http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/2/a/2a0ca-Good_Good_Let_the_Butt_hurt_flow_through.jpg" /> Oh look a star wars pic with someone elses wit on it, you should thank google for that. Here is another one. <img src="http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/3/6/2/1/2/7/thw-43419601141.jpeg" /> These things are always fun shame its something you cant do yourself. Oh well couple pics to give me a smile, now off i go into the night. Once again fill out your anime list instead of trying to be clever with other people's ideas. Bye, and learn to let go of your butthurt. It's not a good thing to have. |
| Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair (heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair) he didn't even touch her really; the hugging on the age scene was just for art sake, and the hug at the end was something she went up and did. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that once mind's are set on a show, they will almost never sway (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). |
InfiniteDestinyJan 28, 2012 9:25 PM
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InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. |
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LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so called "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Sad truth; its a shame really because some shows start of slow but then get really good; i guess some people are just not patient by nature. |
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A lot of heat on this forum but anyways was a really good watch i was shocked when Shinobu spoke i loved the VA she fit in perfectly with the already wonderful of Nisemonogatari. I just loved the psycho behavior from the sister |
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orbbie said: A lot of heat on this forum but anyways was a really good watch i was shocked when Shinobu spoke i loved the VA she fit in perfectly with the already wonderful of Nisemonogatari. I just loved the psycho behavior from the sister To side track a little, because as you mentioned it got a bit to heated. Since you brought up the pic of the knife do you think she was intending to kill Shinobu, Araragi, or both? |
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| Man i kinda feel bad that me and alot of people didn't mention karen's sickness! i was hoping i would get to see her fight soon but Araragi-kun made it prety clear that he was gonna deal with it. mmm fire bees~ |
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| Interesting relationship between Shinobu and koyomi. Loved the ep. |
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| Now THAT is a great episode...Shinobu!! That bath scene was amazing and totally made the episode, even though the parts with Hanekawa were terrible, especially her protecting the little sisters. |
InfiniteDestiny said: Well I think she does kind of have a brother complex but it's not implied much or I could be wrong but if it is then it would be Shinobu because she would be seen as another girl meddling into her relation with Araragi. I am not even sure of the sisters position towards love from the other girls for Araragi.orbbie said: A lot of heat on this forum but anyways was a really good watch i was shocked when Shinobu spoke i loved the VA she fit in perfectly with the already wonderful of Nisemonogatari. I just loved the psycho behavior from the sister To side track a little, because as you mentioned it got a bit to heated. Since you brought up the pic of the knife do you think she was intending to kill Shinobu, Araragi, or both? |
Yumekichi11 said: InfiniteDestiny said: Well I think she does kind of have a brother complex but it's not implied much or I could be wrong but if it is then it would be Shinobu because she would be seen as another girl meddling into her relation with Araragi. I am not even sure of the sisters position towards love from the other girls for Araragi.orbbie said: A lot of heat on this forum but anyways was a really good watch i was shocked when Shinobu spoke i loved the VA she fit in perfectly with the already wonderful of Nisemonogatari. I just loved the psycho behavior from the sister To side track a little, because as you mentioned it got a bit to heated. Since you brought up the pic of the knife do you think she was intending to kill Shinobu, Araragi, or both? This is merely speculation but it seems like Karen is closer to Araragi out of the two sisters simply out of reactions; things like blushes you don't see on the younger one and how the younger sister seemed ok with Araragi going to Nadeko all though she put a irritated look since he is oblivious to Nadeko's intentions. As for if she would go that far; if that was the case i don't think either one of them would have gotten along with Hanekawa; because whether they know about Senjougahara or not they should be able to notice that Hanekawa could have just as easily meddled with their relation with Araragi. |
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LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. Lol you are making it sound like it is impossible for somebody to legitly dislike this anime. As much as a -gatari fan I am I do realize that it is the job of the anime to keep the watchers entertained and for some people fanservice is not entertaining and so far this has been the only episode to really start to give us the main plot of the show. And yet as you can see in this thread nobody is really discussing Karen's condition as much as the are discussing Shinobu's delicious body. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. |
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VioLink said: LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. Lol you are making it sound like it is impossible for somebody to legitly dislike this anime. As much as a -gatari fan I am I do realize that it is the job of the anime to keep the watchers entertained and for some people fanservice is not entertaining and so far this has been the only episode to really start to give us the main plot of the show. And yet as you can see in this thread nobody is really discussing Karen's condition as much as the are discussing Shinobu's delicious body. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. Well in fairness the trickster was barely mentioned but i see your point all the same; even so in Bakemonogatari there where episodes like this and episode 2 (which people also disliked for Kanbaru fanservice) it should b expected by now; when watching anime everyone should have some level of tolerance (for those who dislike it all together) for fanservice since it appears in almost every anime. As for Karen's disease i made the prediction that this arc ends next episode; if that holds true then the ending episode (whether its the next or whenever) will most likely be 100% about Karen with minimum fanservice like all the concluding episodes were for the arcs in Bakemonogatari. |
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| woo.. great episode. not a fan of short hair for girls in anime, so im glad it happened with Hanekawa. whole dialogue with Shinobu was cute and her personality is awesome.. surprised to find out that the voice actor is sakamoto maaya. was eagerly waiting for someone to open the door to the bathroom xD glad it happened, funny reaction as well |
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VioLink said: LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. Lol you are making it sound like it is impossible for somebody to legitly dislike this anime. As much as a -gatari fan I am I do realize that it is the job of the anime to keep the watchers entertained and for some people fanservice is not entertaining and so far this has been the only episode to really start to give us the main plot of the show. And yet as you can see in this thread nobody is really discussing Karen's condition as much as the are discussing Shinobu's delicious body. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. Now let's organise the information of the hater's population. 35% are just haters and troll 35% just doesn't have enough patience to watch what happen after the first few episodes 8% are those who say they hate fanservice (Either a girl or homosexual, those pure and innocent people or those who hypocrite who "think" that it is "indecent" and say there is too much of it or perhap their dick just aren't working) 7% just aren't smart enough to get what is going on 5% just hate the genre itself 5% think everything is cliche and all 4% are influenced by haters in forum 1% can give good reason as to why they hate Well, this is just my personal opinion |
LieselotteHeart said: VioLink said: LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. Lol you are making it sound like it is impossible for somebody to legitly dislike this anime. As much as a -gatari fan I am I do realize that it is the job of the anime to keep the watchers entertained and for some people fanservice is not entertaining and so far this has been the only episode to really start to give us the main plot of the show. And yet as you can see in this thread nobody is really discussing Karen's condition as much as the are discussing Shinobu's delicious body. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. Now let's organise the information of the hater's population. 35% are just haters and troll 35% just doesn't have enough patience to watch what happen after the first few episodes 8% are those who say they hate fanservice (Either a girl or homosexual, those pure and innocent people or those who hypocrite who "think" that it is "indecent" and say there is too much of it or perhap their dick just aren't working) 7% just aren't smart enough to get what is going on 5% just hate the genre itself 5% think everything is cliche and all 4% are influenced by haters in forum 1% can give good reason as to why they hate Well, this is just my personal opinion Well as long as you realize that no anime is without it's flaws. InfiniteDestiny said: VioLink said: LieselotteHeart said: InfiniteDestiny said: Don't you think that you all are taking the "fanservice" a bit over the top; all the facts which people seem to neglect like the fact that she is 400-500 years old and used to have an adult body ( shown in preview for Kizumonogatari) aside it's not like there was anything perverted about there conversation or anything suggestive they were mearly talking in a bathroom; that is all; this isn't Sekirei, High School of the Dead, or Highschool DxD, they didn't shown anything in particular; if you are that sensitive to "skin" then i don't know how you would be able to handle the generic harem animes which everyone has seen at least one off. Now for the pedo stuff do you honestly think that anything of even resembled the concept which seems to be bothering you? besides the fact that this is a anime its in someways even more minor that the Hachikuji scenes because aside from her hair he didn't even touch; heck he even asked if could before he washed her hair. People are just way to sensitive; hopefully you can get over it because otherwise you will miss out; but that's just my thoughts, I've learned from forums like Guilty Crown's that some people will hate or dislike a show no matter what (i feel bad for that show; because even if it gets 100% better, it has fallen to far to ever get back up in the eyes of many). Rather, I will say that the reasons for the haters population is because they watch the first few episodes, so call "hate it". dropped it, didn't realise the anime is getting better, continue to hate. Of course, not that is only half of them, the others are those who are as you said, those who hate and dislike no matter what. Lol you are making it sound like it is impossible for somebody to legitly dislike this anime. As much as a -gatari fan I am I do realize that it is the job of the anime to keep the watchers entertained and for some people fanservice is not entertaining and so far this has been the only episode to really start to give us the main plot of the show. And yet as you can see in this thread nobody is really discussing Karen's condition as much as the are discussing Shinobu's delicious body. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. Well in fairness the trickster was barely mentioned but i see your point all the same; even so in Bakemonogatari there where episodes like this and episode 2 (which people also disliked for Kanbaru fanservice) it should b expected by now; when watching anime everyone should have some level of tolerance (for those who dislike it all together) for fanservice since it appears in almost every anime. As for Karen's disease i made the prediction that this arc ends next episode; if that holds true then the ending episode (whether its the next or whenever) will most likely be 100% about Karen with minimum fanservice like all the concluding episodes were for the arcs in Bakemonogatari. Hopefully you are correct. |
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VioLink said: What I am thinking is what does Kaiki have to gain in having curses in breaking relations less he has a charm to reverse it? I mean money wise he can only gain from the couple/relation chaos and confusion to steal them flat out. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. If you ask that is kind of lame and dangerous. Karen's condition has ??? One one hand she having a high fever and on the other I could not follow that whole bug stuff. I mentioned I had problems following the subs properly. So it's a spiritual non visible insect or? Is the fever exactly a pre-symptom? If so what gets worse after? |
| I wonder why the sisters are calling Hankewaka specifically to help them and not their parents or someone else. On second thought I wonder what their parents even look like or do. Kizu keeps getting mentioned/referenced. Definitely gonna check it out Also, guys just calm down it's just a naked vampire not the end of the world. I mean you should have come to expect these kind of scenes from this series by now. |
Yumekichi11 said: VioLink said: What I am thinking is what does Kaiki have to gain in having curses in breaking relations less he has a charm to reverse it? I mean money wise he can only gain from the couple/relation chaos and confusion to steal them flat out. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. If you ask that is kind of lame and dangerous. Karen's condition has ??? One one hand she having a high fever and on the other I could not follow that whole bug stuff. I mentioned I had problems following the subs properly. So it's a spiritual non visible insect or? Is the fever exactly a pre-symptom? If so what gets worse after? Dude I am just as clueless as you are. This is me while reading the subs  |
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Yumekichi11 said: VioLink said: What I am thinking is what does Kaiki have to gain in having curses in breaking relations less he has a charm to reverse it? I mean money wise he can only gain from the couple/relation chaos and confusion to steal them flat out. Nobody is has even mentioned the trickster yet. If you ask that is kind of lame and dangerous. Karen's condition has ??? One one hand she having a high fever and on the other I could not follow that whole bug stuff. I mentioned I had problems following the subs properly. So it's a spiritual non visible insect or? Is the fever exactly a pre-symptom? If so what gets worse after? Some people simply enjoy causing chaos; this can be validated by Shinobu suggesting he isn't even human (nothing more than a phrase of speech I'm sure but it still validates that he simply isn't normal, so his way of thinking is...obscure to say the least); but its a valid point all the same because my first impression was that he was about money, money, money since he screwed over Senjougahara's parents and his dialogue concerning there was nothing to be gained from Kanbaru; as for the Fire Bee; it starts out with a fever until they literately burn away into nothing; i think the sub group i saw used "wreathed in flames" until death. As for visibility i think she said it couldn't be "touched" so its possible it was visible; all though at the same time she said she could eat it so i guess it can't be touched by that which isn't an oddity. Jlopes3 said: I wonder why the sisters are calling Hankewaka specifically to help them and not their parents or someone else. On second thought I wonder what their parents even look like or do. Kizu keeps getting mentioned/referenced. Definitely gonna check it out Also, guys just calm down it's just a naked vampire not the end of the world. I mean you should have come to expect these kind of scenes from this series by now. I read somewhere that the parents are police officers, as for asking them for help its not strange for kids to keep secrets from their parents; especially when they think they won't believe them or simply don't want to get scolded. Totally agree with the last part but that's been mentioned all over this forum so I'll just leave it at that. |
InfiniteDestinyJan 28, 2012 11:57 PM
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| i had honestly completely forgot about shinobu so i had a holy shit moment when she appeared in the bathroom with him. even though the plot is progressing rather slowly, i absolutely love the dialogue between all the characters. seems like we'll get more plot next episode since karen is like dying now. Jlopes3 said: Also, guys just calm down it's just a naked vampire not the end of the world. for some reason this made me lol really hard. and you forgot to mention the "pseudo loli" part. |
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| Wow... what happen(to the forum)? ... Hype Otaku, they have nothing better to do at home >.>" That shinobu girl remind me of Horo . She mentioned that hornet thing.I wonder is it similar to No.6 lol |
MorningGloryJan 29, 2012 12:38 AM
| Finally Shinobu talks! Aya Got cut for some reason, but I really don't care about her BS that she's been giving to the news. Besides, the dialogue was very nice, Shinobu was DEFINITELY my favorite in the series now. her personality is great and she is 500 years old! Awesome if that Koyomi may live 500 years, we can have a sequel ^_^ the younger sister is annoying to me now... Hanekawa is more interesting then I thought, especiall with her new hair. NICE episode, 5/5 |
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Yumekichi11 said: MisterDonut said: I will NOT drop it due to some vampire loli slut like Shinobu to show of her body. I was clear with this franchise. No Mayoi and Shinobu fan service. You do it and you piss me off. Simple as that. Yumekichi11 seriously just, if you're not going to accept that this series will have fan-service just like it always has done then why not just drop it? Fair enough if you don't want fan-service but nothiing much that can be done. I would love to have a talk with the staff about their intent. Apart from the fans, what would their intent be other than sexual? Nothing. the only forgivable thing is the following,  that is due to its artistic approach but no one here is going to tell me to like this fan service. I don't like it and I rate it down. Simple as that. What do I give for a story when a 8 year old is telling it to me naked in front of me. Nothing really. I would just like that she has some clothing on considering I don't like kids and I don't like seeing then naked in suggestive manners. It was better to do it another way. Yanoflies said: *Workships Miyu**Workships Shinobu* the FUCK? You can dislike the fanservice, but calling Shinobu a SLUT??? I am sorrry but that is NOT TRUE. Just because you dislike the fanservice you call her a slut? I see how you judge characters...... Being naked = being slutty huh? RITE. On topic, that conversation was EXTREMELY amusing, I didn't like how Shinobu had the contrast of +100 though, but this is better then some stupid sunlight... Araragi's bathroom is REALLY AMAZING. I wouldn't mind taking a bath there. Too much space in there though, imo. |
GodlyKyonJan 29, 2012 12:54 AM
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