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| awesome. money shot baby. Gai is awesome. that is all. |
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| I should really stop going into these episode discussions after watching such great episodes of anime. People are entirely too stupid. One person will say Shu is a pussy, but the minute he does something that shows he isn't a pussy, the same person will say that what he did was cliche, or that he's stupid for listening to Inori and Gai. But if he DOESN'T listen to Gai (i.e., disagreeing with a plan that will have 35% [read, THIRTY-FIVE FUCKING PERCENT {that's a lot, in case the people claiming Shu is a pussy for not wanting to participate in the plan don't understand percentages}] casualties), he is, ONCE AGAIN, called a pussy. Heh. At least TRY to have coherent, non-circular, non-contradictory arguments. Make up your fucking minds. But I'll agree that I dislike Inori and Gai. Although, I'd like Shu's relationship with Gai if Inori died or something. Every anime needs a decent bromance. Overall great episode, but it needed WAY more Ayase. |
| I liked the part where all of the unexplained things from the past 5 episodes were explained and all the plotholes were finally filled and now this anime makes perfect sense. Loved that part. |
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| If Shu kills someone with intention in the next ep then I'll like this series a lot better. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
bonifide said: personally i think most people in shu's position would react with a lot of fear/hesitation - would love to see how you would "man up" in similar situation - is a bit of realism in a story such a bad thing? - every character can't be some hyper-macho war machine (thank god!)I officially hate Shu with a passion. He is a bitch like no other in anime. I thought he would man up finally and i was let down. I truly wish Gai had Shu power. I hope with a passion Shu dies a horrible death at the end. He knew what he was getting into now he scared to kill. Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. |
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| Wow, I'm impressed (actually overwhelmed) by the amount of debates going on here! |
thekiller99 said: octal9 said: bonifide said: personally i think most people in shu's position would react with a lot of fear/hesitation - would love to see how you would "man up" in similar situation - is a bit of realism in a story such a bad thing? - every character can't be some hyper-macho war machine (thank god!)I officially hate Shu with a passion. He is a bitch like no other in anime. I thought he would man up finally and i was let down. I truly wish Gai had Shu power. I hope with a passion Shu dies a horrible death at the end. He knew what he was getting into now he scared to kill. Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. Finally a person who thinks with two halves of their brain Amen to that. Awesome ep, awesome main char. Enough said |
octal9 said: bonifide said: personally i think most people in shu's position would react with a lot of fear/hesitation - would love to see how you would "man up" in similar situation - is a bit of realism in a story such a bad thing? - every character can't be some hyper-macho war machine (thank god!)I officially hate Shu with a passion. He is a bitch like no other in anime. I thought he would man up finally and i was let down. I truly wish Gai had Shu power. I hope with a passion Shu dies a horrible death at the end. He knew what he was getting into now he scared to kill. Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. lol realism. If this had any realism then main protagonist would have been dead since eppisode1. |
Lumathy said: octal9 said: bonifide said: personally i think most people in shu's position would react with a lot of fear/hesitation - would love to see how you would "man up" in similar situation - is a bit of realism in a story such a bad thing? - every character can't be some hyper-macho war machine (thank god!)I officially hate Shu with a passion. He is a bitch like no other in anime. I thought he would man up finally and i was let down. I truly wish Gai had Shu power. I hope with a passion Shu dies a horrible death at the end. He knew what he was getting into now he scared to kill. Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. lol realism. If this had any realism then main protagonist would have been dead since eppisode1. Physical realism is never going to be something you should expect from an animated show, it's just too difficult to convey in the medium without an incredible amount of effort. Psychological realism, however, can be conveyed much more easily, which is exactly what the idea of Shu being unsure and afraid in his current situation is about. |
Anzekay said: Physical realism is never going to be something you should expect from an animated show, it's just too difficult to convey in the medium without an incredible amount of effort. Psychological realism, however, can be conveyed much more easily, which is exactly what the idea of Shu being unsure and afraid in his current situation is about. I don't think Shu is "psychological" realistic either, Inori just said she toyed with him by someone else's order yet right after that he's back to being her bitch this episode. |
Lumathy said: Anzekay said: Physical realism is never going to be something you should expect from an animated show, it's just too difficult to convey in the medium without an incredible amount of effort. Psychological realism, however, can be conveyed much more easily, which is exactly what the idea of Shu being unsure and afraid in his current situation is about. I don't think Shu is "psychological" realistic either, Inori just said she toyed with him by someone else's order yet right after that he's back to being her bitch this episode. We have no idea exactly what she said to him though, it could have been a lot more involved than simply "go here, do this". If she gave him a rational reason to do it, then he could have had a much more compelling reason to do so. That, and he's still head over heels for her. Pretty easy to forget what she'd said to him when she's being that close to him again. It's not perfect, but I think there is a lot more logic here than people are giving credit. |
| I wouldn't be surprised if Gai's "weak self" was another act to fool Shu in helping the rebels. The worst elements of this show is the fact it glorifies the Undertakers, which includes Gai and the silent girl. They're too manipulative, and dogmatic to the extent that they react too negatively to Shu's reasonable criticisms. In regards to the show, the unknown girl was obviously the "childhood friend" cliche among the many other convoluted cliche's in this episode. The philosophy behind the show also comes of as close-minded to me. |
| lol forgot to mention that the enemy guards have undergone training at the Imperial Stormtroopers Marksmanship Academy. Apparently Daryl also went there, since after blasting at Gai with numerous rounds from his gun Gai isn't even hit, not even once. |
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| OK I did not notice this at first but I got some thing that prove 100% certain things. For one in the ED notice in the spoiler I can ascertain that the Miracle/Religion is used with science fiction exaggeration as seen from that beam. That is also used in Index however this series has much more mature looks IMO from how I see them. Finally IMO Inori has 2 personality and is vessel that hosts that other girl. That other girl may be a sister of Inori or something else. Regardless I will stick to my theory that the other girl is a sister of Inori or twin sister. Then again there are very few spirits that can have their kinetic/mana meld into the other vessel and created something amazing in the process. As such Inori has the fusion possibility with voids. |
Yumekichi11 said: Finally IMO Inori has 2 personality and is vessel that hosts that other girl. That other girl may be a sister of Inori or something else. Regardless I will stick to my theory that the other girl is a sister of Inori or twin sister. Then again there are very few spirits that can have their kinetic/mana meld into the other vessel and created something amazing in the process. As such Inori has the fusion possibility with voids. You mean a bit like Ringo/Momoka? lol |
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entropy13 said: Yeah, many have used that notion of sister bond-hood despite the other one being dead. So me meaning may easily be like you mention though I would be curious of the notion of fate in this series.Yumekichi11 said: Finally IMO Inori has 2 personality and is vessel that hosts that other girl. That other girl may be a sister of Inori or something else. Regardless I will stick to my theory that the other girl is a sister of Inori or twin sister. Then again there are very few spirits that can have their kinetic/mana meld into the other vessel and created something amazing in the process. As such Inori has the fusion possibility with voids. You mean a bit like Ringo/Momoka? lol Clearly Gai was questioning it in regards to the lives lost of his comrades. |
| Every GHQ soldier in this episode shoot like a storm trooper. |
| Inori has Shu wrapped around her finger. He does anything she says. |
Lumathy said: Anzekay said: Physical realism is never going to be something you should expect from an animated show, it's just too difficult to convey in the medium without an incredible amount of effort. Psychological realism, however, can be conveyed much more easily, which is exactly what the idea of Shu being unsure and afraid in his current situation is about. I don't think Shu is "psychological" realistic either, Inori just said she toyed with him by someone else's order yet right after that he's back to being her bitch this episode. Not really, he is back because of Gai. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
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yvanc said: Every GHQ soldier in this episode shoot like a storm trooper. Red shirts are red. |
Lauriet said: yvanc said: Every GHQ soldier in this episode shoot like a storm trooper. Red shirts are red. Someone should Warn the GHQ Troopers that: "Friends don't let Friends wear Red Shirts." That, or Just make Blood Red Shirts, a part of their standard Uniform. Like the British did with their Uniforms back in the 1700s & 1800s. Major Segai took care of the only GHQ Trooper that actually bothered to first, take aim at his target before shooting, back in Episode 4. Can't have Shu getting his head removed by a well placed Bullet? Can't we? Well. . . At least not this early in the series. Still a good Bullet Graze, or one in the shoulder, would have made for a good plot point, twist. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
drendren said: He "shot" a beam out of his sword...WTF Oh yeah that was cool, I think he can literally defeat GHQ single handly |
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Yumekichi11 said: The second one is beautiful, i so want the original. ;3; This girl is so pretty, i really want to see her soon, i guess the one who's "about to wake up" is her, so i suppose she's alive? And i'm wondering, Gai knew about the pen Shu had? I guess i lost myself a little bit. |
Liinah said: If it really is her that will wake up then shit is going to hit the fans next episode. That means that there is a cure for the disease and she was cured.Yumekichi11 said: The second one is beautiful, i so want the original. ;3;This girl is so pretty, i really want to see her soon, i guess the one who's "about to wake up" is her, so i suppose she's alive? It also means Gai will shit bricks once he sees her. |
Liinah said: And i'm wondering, Gai knew about the pen Shu had? I guess i lost myself a little bit. I can only assume that Gai figured out about the pen when Ayase had it in her possession. Gai would have had assumed that they wouldn't let Shu get away so easily if they weren't trying to use him as a mole in some fashion. Especially after the confrontation they had in the visiting room when Gai acted as Shu's lawyer. |
Cirris said: Liinah said: And i'm wondering, Gai knew about the pen Shu had? I guess i lost myself a little bit. I can only assume that Gai figured out about the pen when Ayase had it in her possession. Gai would have had assumed that they wouldn't let Shu get away so easily if they weren't trying to use him as a mole in some fashion. Especially after the confrontation they had in the visiting room when Gai acted as Shu's lawyer. Actually, Gai announcing the jailbreak, was meant to get GHQ to try to turn Shu. Remember, Funeral Parlour are terrorists, they do not have any human rights. No right to an lawyer. No right a trail by jury. Since Shu was being held as a suspected Terrorist, despite being the son of a important researcher, he didn't have any rights either. Major Segai's plan to turn Shu, opened the door for Gai's plan to be put into effect. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
mike13531 said: Is everyone happy with developments so far. Plenty happy, thanks for asking. |
bonifide said: Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. Sorry that is reserved for Evangelions Shinji - no matter how bad Crown is or Shu |
sirwence said: bonifide said: Shu can save the world/universe and he still will be the number 1 bitch in anime history. Sorry that is reserved for Evangelions Shinji - no matter how bad Crown is or Shu I dunno, I think Ganta from Deadman Wonderland could out-wimp Shinji. |
| (◕ᴥ◕し) Hello! Did you know? Barnacles have the largest penis to body size ratio of the animal kingdom. |
| I just wish that everyone would stop hating on Shu. I mean he's acting like any normal person would have acted! Do you think that a normal person who is thrust into a terrorist group could easily do something like killing someone?! I'm sure that most of you haters out there woulda pissed your pants if you were in his position. I still don't trust Gai. I'm sure that whole speech was just to get Shu once again wrapped around their fingers. I just wish that someone would stand up for Shu and say something like, "I agree with Shu." or "I disagree with you Gai, Shu has a better idea." because every one of them keeps screwing him over. It seems that no one in the FP can be trusted besides Ayase. Although, I think that some people disagree with what Gai has to say, but they're afraid to say anything... It seems that Inori is split up into two personalities; that blondish haired girl (who's probably Cocytus) and Inori herself. At least that's what it looks like. Also, they said that she's looking for her "beloved king" which is probably Shu, since he has the Power of "Kings." |
 I’m just trying to be okay. Some days it’s harder than others. I hide away the most real parts of myself from everyone else. The emotions that I try to escape from. The constant pain I feel. The nightmares that keep me awake at night. It hurts sometimes... knowing that the world is continuing happily all around me while I continue to drown in alcohol and slowly die inside myself. |
Zergneedsfood said: Why do people bring up "he's just acting normally!" as an excuse to liking a character? It's such a retarded reason. Whether or not someone acted "normal" (and define normal please) is NEVER a good reason to like someone. If someone is annoying normally, he's going to be annoying. Shu just happens to be a panzy normally, and thus gets the hate that MOST main characters get for being a panzy. It has nothing to do with whether or not we put ourselves in his shoes. I'm sure a lot of us would be fine if he wasn't acting "normally". Most fiction stories require us to let go our disbelief anyway. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to just believe that Shu was a badass. Personally, Shu is getting better, but he's still needs more balls. Wheelchair-chan needs more screen time, and Inori should just keep staying quiet. Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. I just wish that people could have a little compassion for Shu and what he's going through. I'm not gonna start an argument over the Internet about Shu's character though, so I'll leave it at that. |
I’m just trying to be okay. Some days it’s harder than others. I hide away the most real parts of myself from everyone else. The emotions that I try to escape from. The constant pain I feel. The nightmares that keep me awake at night. It hurts sometimes... knowing that the world is continuing happily all around me while I continue to drown in alcohol and slowly die inside myself. |
chromerokudo61 said: this guy has it right, also people are impacient, its obviosu that shu will develope as the series goes on for christ sakes if you havent notice dhow much hes manned up in recent episodes that a problem you have not the show, Zergneedsfood said: Why do people bring up "he's just acting normally!" as an excuse to liking a character? It's such a retarded reason. Whether or not someone acted "normal" (and define normal please) is NEVER a good reason to like someone. If someone is annoying normally, he's going to be annoying. Shu just happens to be a panzy normally, and thus gets the hate that MOST main characters get for being a panzy. It has nothing to do with whether or not we put ourselves in his shoes. I'm sure a lot of us would be fine if he wasn't acting "normally". Most fiction stories require us to let go our disbelief anyway. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to just believe that Shu was a badass. Personally, Shu is getting better, but he's still needs more balls. Wheelchair-chan needs more screen time, and Inori should just keep staying quiet. Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. I just wish that people could have a little compassion for Shu and what he's going through. I'm not gonna start an argument over the Internet about Shu's character though, so I'll leave it at that. tell em did you still think outright attacking the gai was a pussy move, him standing up to gai in front of a large crowd was a pussy move, him standing up and risking his life to take down the sate light was a pussy move, the guy has manned up significantly in recent episodes and were not even halfway through yet and is there really a problem with him not wanting to kill people, it makes him more 3 dimensional instead of being some generic killing machine like most anime protagonists. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
chromerokudo61 said: Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. I just wish that people could have a little compassion for Shu and what he's going through. I'm not gonna start an argument over the Internet about Shu's character though, so I'll leave it at that. Compassion, to Shu? Omg! Why would we do that. Not like he is normal and the average socially inept guy off the street. I mean he has the power to pull crystallized weapons out of people, he has to be badass! Sarcasm aside, I like Shu well enough. His whole character is meant to feel average and plain, since he was almost literally plucked right off the street into the whole mess. I'm not exactly full of empathy, but there has to be a lot of confusion and frustration for him. DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: the guy has manned up significantly in recent episodes and were not even halfway through yet and is there really a problem with him not wanting to kill people, it makes him more 3 dimensional instead of being some generic killing machine like most anime protagonists. Let's not forget he also is socially idiotic in the way he can only make 'quasi-friendships'. This has drastically improved since episode 1. Since now, because of both Ayase and Gai, he's learning to not solely judge on what's the surface. Something that would've saved him a lot of misery with Yahiro. Also, I'm happy he doesn't want to hurt or kill people. Even happier he follows up on his words. A stark contrast to certain Gundam characters who are pacifistic up until the battle starts. |
| the BGM in this shit is fucking fantastic. |
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Lauriet said: im glad too, i like characters that dont blindly kill just to kill, i mean one of my favorite things thats ever happened in anime was in eureka 7 Also, I'm happy he doesn't want to hurt or kill people. Even happier he follows up on his words. A stark contrast to certain Gundam characters who are pacifistic up until the battle starts. though looks like shu will be the oppossite of this where he will just start killing as the show goes on, lets just hope he doesnt end up like lelouch or light |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| The soundtrack in this episode was amazing. |
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| wowowowoww this episode was COMPLETLY HORRIBLE , awful. how can anyone say that this have good action is beyond my understanding , enemies are completly idiots , they made no sense. the scene with inori and the soldiers was completly ridiculous. |
| Silly Inori... Pointing her guns like a Black person :v |
g0tic said: HecateAster006 said: I hope Shu will finally man up to kill someone pleas go back to ep 1 and 2 and re watch, and you will see that shu already killed quite a lot. Please go back to episode 1 and 3 and rewatch yourself. As it stands, Endlave's are remote controlled (minus Daryl's Ayase's steiner). You'd be surprised at the subtle details, and the pilots being external is actually one of the more obvious points. The closest thing I saw him get him to outright killing is when he set up the Kaleidoscope's absolute barrier, and even then that was indirectly, because what killed the GHQ soldiers were their own fire. |
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