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Nov 12, 2010 1:51 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Alice does something useful for once xD (Which in this case was totally expected, but still : p)
Also, Rei totally annoyed me in this chapter. Bleh, sure, your dad's missing, but damn it get it together woman! D:<
And Zeke, completely randomly going up and peeing on Takashi after his dramatic speech, yeah, that's right, go get him! : D

...Awww seriously, Shidou's still alive? =3=
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Nov 12, 2010 3:30 AM
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Why the nurse massage her breasts in page 18 ?o_o
Nov 12, 2010 3:49 AM
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Why the nurse massage her breasts in page 18 ?o_o


considering there weren't as much ecchi shots in this chapter, they had to do something, although as for why she had to rub her breast, is beyond me...maybe due to finding a lump?


cute moment with Kohta getting some attention from Saya, and looks like Shido(my 2nd fave chara for this manga) is alive and his bangbus students are still with him....hopefully his cult has grown bigger next time we see them

...and poor Takashi, he's becoming the piss-bucket for this series(first Alice, and now Zeke)
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TensaiShonen said:
ShiroiRyu said:
Why the nurse massage her breasts in page 18 ?o_o


considering there weren't as much ecchi shots in this chapter, they had to do something, although as for why she had to rub her breast, is beyond me...maybe due to finding a lump?
She bumped the blackboard with those melons of hers xD.


Finally after a long time, an update.
Some development for ReixTakashi and SayaxKohta here. And some comedy from Alice and Zeke :D.
They're finally moving on to the next place huh. Something tells me the horde is gonna swarm them along the way.
And wtf Shidou. He's still alive!?

Wtf again for next chapter at Jan. 8. Season 2 for anime is still a long ways off with the slow chapter releases.
Nov 12, 2010 5:04 AM
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Rei´s father is apparently alive, and Shido sensei too?

It was a good chapter, but the wait it´s too long T.T
Nov 12, 2010 5:45 AM
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really disapointed 2 months and barely no progress with the plot in this chap.
Nov 12, 2010 6:43 AM
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that damn teacher is still ALIVE , so wanna freaking see him getting shot in his head when he is turned into one of "them"

And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi

Crazy Bitch xD i kinda like the Woman who is in special force
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that damn teacher is still ALIVE , so wanna freaking see him getting shot in his head when he is turned into one of "them"


Evil teacher is awesome dude. He's got a unique dark charizma.I want to see not only zombies but a human enemies also.And teacher is a great and smart enemy. Becides I hope he will transform in to big monster in the end of manga,and he will be killed just like Wesker in RE5 game,lol.

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And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi


And how about Rei's mother? We have't seen her alive also.There is a small photo on page 16 of Rei and unknown woman.I think this is her mother.

Becides,i guess it's clear to everyone now that Takashi and Saya will not be together.The author of manga wants Saya x Hirano and it's 100% guaranteed.
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Shido's still alive omg!

and another 2months for the next chapter -argh
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RionX said:
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And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi
And how about Rei's mother? We have't seen her alive also.There is a small photo on page 16 of Rei and unknown woman.I think this is her mother.
Inb4 Takashi and Rei are siblings, thus Rei's mother is Takashi's mother and Takashi's father is Rei's father. And they divorced a long time ago, Rei living with the father and Takashi living with the mother.
...Well, if that was actually the case, I'd shoot the author.
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Oosran said:
RionX said:
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And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi
And how about Rei's mother? We have't seen her alive also.There is a small photo on page 16 of Rei and unknown woman.I think this is her mother.
Inb4 Takashi and Rei are siblings, thus Rei's mother is Takashi's mother and Takashi's father is Rei's father. And they divorced a long time ago, Rei living with the father and Takashi living with the mother.
...Well, if that was actually the case, I'd shoot the author.


nice prediction
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Eternal_Shield said:
Oosran said:
RionX said:
Eternal_Shield said:
And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi
And how about Rei's mother? We have't seen her alive also.There is a small photo on page 16 of Rei and unknown woman.I think this is her mother.
Inb4 Takashi and Rei are siblings, thus Rei's mother is Takashi's mother and Takashi's father is Rei's father. And they divorced a long time ago, Rei living with the father and Takashi living with the mother.
...Well, if that was actually the case, I'd shoot the author.


nice prediction


Yes,interesting prediction indeed.Maybe their parents divorced when Takashi and Rei were only 1-2 years old. But what about PTA (Parent teachers association) meeting in the school or in the kindergarten? How come,that Rei's mother never met Rei's father in the school or kindergarten? Why she have't told Rei,that Takashi is her brother actually?Have't their parents seen Takashi and Rei walking together before? Because their parents live in the same country and city...Why this information was so classified? Yeah,you are right if that was actually the case, I'd shoot the author also.
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Why the nurse massage her breasts in page 18 ?o_o

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Seems like i've been waiting for this chapter for agggges and although there was no action it was ok.

Saya x Hirano needs more development after the shopping centre arc, looking as if that will be happening soon. I can't stand Rei, Saeko for teh wins for the wins in favourite girl in the series.

Good to see Shidou-Sensei and his cult clubback and looking as friendly as usual. Haters gonna hate but he's a great character.
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really disapointed 2 months and barely no progress with the plot in this chap.


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Shidou is going to end up getting the survivors at the schools killed somehow. I won't be surprise if he and Rei's dad interact next chapter since they conflicts with each other. He needs to die ASAP.
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Finally Rika is back in story XD
I hope she joins the main team :)
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Shidou is going to end up getting the survivors at the schools killed somehow. I won't be surprise if he and Rei's dad interact next chapter since they conflicts with each other. He needs to die ASAP.


Yeah, I kinda have that feeling too. I wish he was dead, but since he's alive I wanna see if Takashi or Rei end up killing him. Maybe Shidou is planning some mega orgy or something xD, although I kinda doubt it since there's too many people alive.
Ugh I just hate the 2 month waiting time.
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after this chapter, i can see the end.
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after this chapter, i can see the end.

Not neccessarily, there is no guarantee that evacuation will be successful (Shidou presence makes it even more likely to fail) and even if they move somwhere else then what? There are still a lot of options for the story to develop in one way or another.
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kleinerwolf said:
after this chapter, i can see the end.


You are wrong.Chapter 28-is volume 7. I'm sure that HOTD manga will contain 10 volumes.

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and even if they move somwhere else then what? There are still a lot of options for the story to develop in one way or another.


There are no a lot of options for the story to develop.Do you really expect Saya to find a cure or something? No way..Do you really think,that our team can help to save the world? Forget about it...

But i'm sure ,that you were right ,when you said:
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there is no guarantee that evacuation will be successful (Shidou presence makes it even more likely to fail)


So our team will need a "plan B" . As for now: Rei needs to find her father and Takashi his mother.After that our team will need a plan to escape.It will take alot of time...
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I got to the last page of this one and started cussing out loud.

I thought that son of a bitch died during the EMP situation
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There are no a lot of options for the story to develop.Do you really expect Saya to find a cure or something? No way..Do you really think,that our team can help to save the world? Forget about it...

That's not what I meant (I agree that it would be totaly stupid and besides it would be just another way of ending manga), the options I meant are something like this:
1. The are evacuated but the place they moved to turns out to be just as infested as the one they are in now.
2. They don't even make it to another land, the disease somehow makes it to the ships and they have to fight there (lots of dark narrow corridors, just a perfect place for zombies ;) in order to somehow escape back to land (any land)
3. They try to run to another, less infected place (like England for example) but local population denies them entry and fight break out (another perfect situation for zombies to join the party)
4. They do find really safe place but Shidou converts everyone to his "religion" and after few chapters of very nasty peace the only option left is to run to a more decent place that is ony full of zombies.
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1. The are evacuated but the place they moved to turns out to be just as infested as the one they are in now.
2. They don't even make it to another land, the disease somehow makes it to the ships and they have to fight there (lots of dark narrow corridors, just a perfect place for zombies ;) in order to somehow escape back to land (any land)
3. They try to run to another, less infected place (like England for example) but local population denies them entry and fight break out (another perfect situation for zombies to join the party)


Well as I can see,you 've got a lot of interesting ideas ;-) But i guess we've got some problems here:

1)There are only 3 volumes of manga left (i mean,c'mon-we don't expect 20 volumes of hotd ,right? maximum 10).And Takashi have't even found his mother and Rei her father at this moment.Evil teacher is still alive and we don't even know what mangaka have decided about him.Our team have't met Rika,the sniper woman,yet and so on...

2)I am afraid it would still look like déjà vu .Because we already saw a small and big local fightings with zombies and we will get one epic battle in the end just before the escape.Do we really need more? I'm not sure if the quality of the story will be the same. Like Dieter Rams(a German industrial designer) said :"Less, but better". Your ideas are great for...computer FPS game:different maps(Japan,England,Italy,ships, secret military base and so on) different types of weapons and different types of enemies (reminds me of L4D2 game) .Your ideas are great also for an interesting book.But it's a manga afterall...It's a story about high school kids trying to save their parents and escape. That's it.I don't expect another "Expendables" or "Mission impossible" type of story from this manga.

3) Maybe mangaka will be lazy enough or...he will have no time for these ideas. Because HOTD manga is bi-monthly now and mangaka is working on 3 titles of manga at the same time,so...

But well, maybe i'm wrong and you are right. We shall see...But we should wait for 2 months just for 1 chapter(30 pages) and it's ... killing my interest in this manga :-(
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the manga is going to end at 10 volumes?
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the manga is going to end at 10 volumes?


It's not oficially confirmed.But do you really expect 20 volumes? As i said before it's a story about high school kids trying to save their parents and escape. That's it. I don't expect another "Expendables" or "Mission impossible" type of story from this manga.

It's volume 7th of manga and Rei almost found her father...Now Takashi needs to find his mother.Volume 9 i guess will be about the team is trying to escape,but
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Not neccessarily, there is no guarantee that evacuation will be successful (Shidou presence makes it even more likely to fail)


And chapter 10-the team will find plan B and escape somewhere else.

Can you imagine another 10 volumes? ;-) It will become another Santa-Barbara soup opera...So logically,this manga should end up on volume 10.We already saw a small and big local fightings with zombies and we will get one epic battle in the end just before the escape.Do we really need more? I'm not sure if the quality of the story will be the same. Like Dieter Rams(a German industrial designer) said :"Less, but better".
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wow.... such a long wait i almost forgot what happened in the past volumes.... waiting for january won't be fun.

i swear, this manga could be so muuch nicer if it was released weekly... it did get great attention with the success of the anime, so i wonder why the little effort to the manga...

anyways, it was a nice chapter that actually solved questions unlike some obnoxious people won't notice. obviously, it's just one chapter, so i wouldnt expect the whole story to be solved, and i'd blame it on the slowness of chapter releases... anyways. at least the story is getting somewhere, and i can see rei's dad being dead because of the orgy pro sensei
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1)There are only 3 volumes of manga left (i mean,c'mon-we don't expect 20 volumes of hotd ,right? maximum 10).

You know - Claymore was supposed to end at volume 12 if I remember correctly and now we are at 19 volumes and the manga is still running. The things that are required for series to continue are author inspiration and big enough popularity, for now HotD has the second part covered so as long as authors are willing to continue their work nothing stands in the way. As for how many volumes we expect... I don't hawe any expectations in that regard - as long as story and art are good it can run for another 30 volumes for all I care ;P Though I agree that waiting 2 months for 30 pages is kinda ruining the mood I would at least want enough material done for another anime series (without recaps this time) to be made, It sucks that more and more manga series are adapted into the anime as quickly as possible and then dropped in mid story :(
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The things that are required for series to continue are author inspiration and big enough popularity


Sorry for a little off topic here,but take Terminator movie for example.The title is so popular but...Terminator 1 and 2 are masterpieces.James Cameron said after Terminator 2 had been released,that the story has ended and he won't make another movie.But Terminator 3 and 4 movies had been released by another director.And these movies are crap ...And i trust Cameron,when he says,that Avatar will have only 3 movies.We won't see Avatar 4,5,6....The same about Omen movie.Omen IV: The Awakening got 3,4 out of 10 on imdb.Sometimes mangaka have enough material to make hundred of chapters like Naruto,but sometimes...It's better to say just like Cameron said:"the story has ended ,thank you for your attention,guys".

Becides Claymore is a dark fantasy manga and HOTD manga's story is something absolutely different. There are neither superheroes nor an order of half-human, half-yoma warriors to protect humans from the yoma, for a large fee here...That means there are no much choises for the plot of the story.And i really don't want another Saya X Hirano and Saekox TakashixRei Santa Barbara soup opera if you know what i mean... :-)

That's why I can't imagine super team of high school kids fighting hordes of zombies around all other the world together with their parents...(Saya's parents,Takashi's mother and Rei's father+,maybe,Hirano's parents)... Because mangaka should change the name of title to "High school of the Incredible SWAT-heroes kids" in that case.

But well,maybe i'm wrong...Just don't forget,that mangaka works on 3 different titles of manga at the same time at this moment.

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It sucks that more and more manga series are adapted into the anime as quickly as possible and then dropped in mid story :(


I completely agree with you.I mean-Madhouse knew,that HOTD manga is bi-montly now and that it will take a lot of time to release season 2...It looks like Madhouse was just teasing us, and anime had been released only to make HOTD manga more popular.I even doubt about HOTD season 2 now... Madhouse doesn't like to make sequels.
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Sorry for a little off topic here,but take Terminator movie /.../

I don't think that this is a good example because movies are completely diffrent thing than a manga - there is only so much that can be shown in 1,5-2h so each successive sequel (which must be a well selling production on its own) will be watering down the potential of the setting, in manga author can spend some time and sacrifice one or even more chapters to expand the setting, bring in new plot and even do something as (seemingly) impossible as change to some extent the genre. So as long as author has new (good) ideas he/she can continue existing manga while in movie case it is easier and better to create a completely new one (better for creator and the audience, the guys from marketing are another thing).
BTW - there is a good example that contradicts your theory - Discworld by Terry Pratchett is a series that has almost 40 volumes already and is as good now as it was at the beginning (actually even better since each volume expanded the universe and along with bringing new characters polished already existing ones to perfection). All that author needs is inspiration.
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Becides Claymore is a dark fantasy manga and HOTD manga's story is something absolutely different.

That is not the point - I mentioned this title as an example that mangaka can change his plans and expand the series, superpower has nothing to do with it (GTo lasted 201 chapters without it, Black Lagoon and Nononono are around 80 by now and nothing suggest that they will end anytime soon), the only thing that is needed is good plot.
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That's why I can't imagine super team of high school kids fighting hordes of zombies around all other the world together with their parents...

I can't imagine that either, for my part I expect that those parents won't live very long (they wouldn't fit into the story), as for team of super highschoolers - we already have them (how elsa can you describe this bunch) ;P
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But well,maybe i'm wrong...Just don't forget,that mangaka works on 3 different titles of manga at the same time at this moment.

I know, and that indeed may be the main reason for ending HotD if the mangaka will chose to do so - making good money is one thing but there is a limit to how much work a person can do...
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Karharot said:

BTW - there is a good example that contradicts your theory - Discworld by Terry Pratchett is a series that has almost 40 volumes already and is as good now as it was at the beginning (actually even better since each volume expanded the universe and along with bringing new characters polished already existing ones to perfection). All that author needs is inspiration..

(GTo lasted 201 chapters without it, Black Lagoon and Nononono are around 80 by now and nothing suggest that they will end anytime soon), the only thing that is needed is good plot.


I'm new in anime and manga world.Thanks for the offer.I'll try to find it online somewhere :D

I can't imagine Saya's parents or Rei's father and Takashi's mother dead.Yes,it was a dramatic episode with Saya's parents in chapter 16 if i'm not mistaken,when the team left Saya's mansion ,but...If her parents will appear in volume 8-9 again...That means this theory
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for my part I expect that those parents won't live very long


is wrong and the ending will be soon enough.

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I know, and that indeed may be the main reason for ending HotD if the mangaka will chose to do so ...


I've got a feeling,that he already made a decision.But well,as i said before we shall see.My vote goes for 10 volumes at tnis moment.And if volume 11 will be released i'll admit,that i was wrong about HOTD :-)

Thanks a lot for clarifying that thing about "Discworld by Terry Pratchett " and other mangas
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I'm new in anime and manga world.Thanks for the offer.I'll try to find it online somewhere :D

Just to clarify - Discworld is a series of novels not manga but I recommend it anyway :)
As for the rest start with Great Teacher Onizuka, that manga has really great humor :)
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Yes,it was a dramatic episode with Saya's parents in chapter 16 if i'm not mistaken,when the team left Saya's mansion ,but...If her parents will appear in volume 8-9 again...That means this theory
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for my part I expect that those parents won't live very long

is wrong and the ending will be soon enough.

Its unlikely but possible, in such case it would really mean the end
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I thought the blackboard smacking the woman's boobs was random, but it had a reason. xD The location of Rei's dad.






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Damn I so hoped, that Rei's father will be found dead in there
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coincidentally everyone is fine for now at the school... I'm sure noone will be expecting a bunch of kids with guns to show up. it's so long between chapters it's hard to keep up. Shidou will have to die soon but really what happens now? it's just progressing kind of slowly.
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after this chapter, i can see the end.

what end do you see the one thats layed out for us o something els?
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Oh gawd....the douche is still alive >.>
Well, it was a rather short chapter...and at least we're getting somewhere ._.


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That's why I can't imagine super team of high school kids fighting hordes of zombies around all other the world together with their parents...(Saya's parents,Takashi's mother and Rei's father+,maybe,Hirano's parents)... Because mangaka should change the name of title to "High school of the Incredible SWAT-heroes kids" in that case.
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this is SENIEN not shonen so it would never get a title like that
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Sigh. The whole police station is pretty deserted looking and Rei expected her dad on the other side of an office door. Seriously?

Didn't expect the ass teacher to be alive. More orgy scenes?
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Sigh. The whole police station is pretty deserted looking and Rei expected her dad on the other side of an office door. Seriously?


agreed



Some parents will certainly die this is a seinen, not shounen
Rei's father is my first bet but her mother can be already dead at this point
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And i really don't want another Saya X Hirano and Saekox TakashixRei Santa Barbara soup opera if you know what i mean... :-)


......soup opera. *cough* Just an FYI, it's "soap opera."

Anyways I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes Rei lol (tho Saeko is my fav character.) And FFFFFFFFFFF whyyyyy is Shidou back e___e CAN'T YOU DIE AND STAY DEAD.

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Sigh. The whole police station is pretty deserted looking and Rei expected her dad on the other side of an office door. Seriously?


Yeah I think that was pretty stupid of her too xD
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Next chapter on January.


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you know he keeps worrying about his mom
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that damn teacher is still ALIVE , so wanna freaking see him getting shot in his head when he is turned into one of "them"

And How about Takashi's Dad , did anyone mentioned about him , Sad for takashi

Crazy Bitch xD i kinda like the Woman who is in special force
but what about his dad doesn;t he worry about him where is he over seas or something
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Interesting Chapter... but too short and the time waiting for the next one is too long.

I can't believe Asami had to go... D: She was better for Kohta... But i guess Saya and Kohta are okay too.

Rei is quite annoying, she just needs to go die.

Saeko is in my opinion more suitable for Takashi (because they've gone pretty far in that srine :P) and because she's well... actually a better character.

WTF?! Shido is at the School?! OMG I guess his turn to die is coming soon. I want to see his face blown apart by Takashi's new shotgun.

January 8th.......... *sigh* man...
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I love HOTD, but the pace is KILLING me...
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So basically what I read/saw was,

Boobs, boobs defying physics, boobs hitting stuff, boobs being massaged, and more boobs. I think there was some plot throw in there somewhere.

Seriously, the plot is just crawling now...and this chapter took 2-3 months to release?
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Why was this chapter so bloody short?! I wait 2 months to get this meaningless chapter.... tch. There's no justice in this world lol


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Wow so excited for the next chapter.

I hope that crazy biatch joins up with the main team at some point, its gonna happen when they are all in the shit and she is gonna save their asses. Then her and the teacher are going to make out...........Im calling it here lol ;) jokes

O and I hate that fucking teacher, I wish he was dead already
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I always thought it would be saya x kohta..

I was hoping Shido was raped by zombies. Psh. hopefully I can see it happen, muahaha.

haha, I love the SAT girl.
I hope she meets the group soon~
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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