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| DUUUUDE WHAT WAS THAT????? HOW CAN THEY KILL HIM SO EARLY??? |
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| The Potocki surname comes from an old Polish family - they were Counts or Hetmans. YES! Surprisingly, the Potocki's were magnates of Poland and Ukraine in particular. There is even a village called Potocki in Poland. And what we see is NOTHING like Poland. It looks more like medieval Italy, England, Germany or Spain. If anyone thinks I've exaggerated about the Potocki, I'll explain. One of my great-grandfathers was a chauffeur for Count Potocki. That's the end tho. It was a good anime, but it's a pity it's so short. |
CersilOct 12, 3:26 PM
| pretty great start to the anime for what id assume has been the "prologue" so far. Rafal's death might have been quite surprising, but u also gotta realize that science was built on the foundation and theories of hundreds of people over thousands of years. historically, it makes complete sense for his works to be passed down to the next generation, just as Hubert passed down his knowledge to the boy and as Potocki did towards Hubert (and Rafal both) im glad that the thematic focus here is exploring the reality of their world, and not the characters themselves. |
| When he showed him the pear I was like, then he said something about shoving it into the mouth and ripping the cheeks... Hm bro? That pear goes in another hole. It will still rip some cheeks tho, lol! |
| bruh |
| WTF No, seriously: WTF?! |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Reply to saccizord
I couldn't believe this, I was waiting for the torturer to change his mind and free him somehow, I wanted to believe that...
| @saccizord I absolutely expected Rafal to find just the right words to convince the inquisitor to not kill him. Like, challenging his faith, the church, something. Like "I'm not fighting the church. But what if they misunderstood god? What if heliocentrism is the truth and god is disappointed that we're following geocentrism?" Something like that. But no. Guy just accepted his fate. Wow. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| I didn't think Rafal would die that quick but god damn did he go out like a boss. I hope the next MC can be just as inspiring as Rafal. |
| wtf? this show moves different bru i'm at a loss for words. the cinematography is pretty nice. i |
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| It's great to see everyone's reactions to this episode lol It was the same thing with me while I was reading the manga. Orb is AMAZING and I hope more people give this series a chance! |
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| Rafal was so smart. Once he stated that he did indeed believe in heliocentrism in front of the entire crowd, I already felt the path he had taken. And knowing that he knew well of the interrogation done to heretics, I wasn't so surprised that he chose to poison himself. But I was more surprised with his, at first seemingly illogical, determination to continue preaching heliocentrism after we (the audience) were prepared that 'okay, he's going to do the smart thing (for his life) by just staying quiet, become a theologian, and do astronomy on the side' akin to real life Copernicus. But nope! He possessed so much faith in heliocentrism and awe in the effects hubert had on him, that he chose to take a similar route. Passing the torch. It really highlights artistically, if not realistically, the effort, sacrifices, and faith of humans for the sake of progress/knowing the truth, etc. In this case, it's heliocentrism. And that's why I think this story is potentially beautiful, at least partially, because it embraces the similar energies that had so strongly affected both hubert and rafal. I was also surprised with the overreaction of the inquisitor. I don't know the rest of the story, but I'm sure it had a strong affect on him too. Not only because it would be the poetic thing to happen, but because his world views are seemingly the complete opposite of rafal's vision. It isn't just about 'earth centrism is how it's taught and how it should always be', but also about the values different people hold and how certain actions by a person who possesses different values/perspectives than you seem completely insane. Moreover, I believe he overreacted towards the end to rafal's words and actions, because ' it's just some stupid smart ass teenager trying to act tough or find an easy way out '. But I do admit, at the same time it is entirely believable that, even a fictional anime character like that fake inquisitor, would overreact to rafal's actions because it's such a human reaction. Not knowing various tropes in other media, rafal's actions are truly brave, crazy, reckless, hopeful, insane, genius, etc. It seems to me that rafal's actions spoke louder than his words, but simultaneously his words were his action. When he said that he truly believed in heliocentrism and that it is known a young man/teenager like him gets punished so cruelly, so swiftly, just for some words, such a result is bound to have a ripple effect on society. Whether small or big. Like how rafal quoted hubert, the wrong choice was also meaningful. (personally, until recently, I was under the assumption that Copernicus faced a fair deal of scrutiny for his studies in heliocentrism. Not as dramatically depicted in fiction, but still a fair amount. However, according to his biography on the wikipedia page about him, a good number of people in the catholic church including the pope had a favorable outlook on his research. Although there was still societal pressure when it came to interpreting precisely how astronomy affected theology, the notion of heliocentrism was simply an 'innovation' in early scientific thinking back in the early 16th century. ) |
W3TFTOct 12, 8:51 PM
ow + nw = 90-2000s |
| RIP GOAT. This episode is pure cinema, absolute cinema. Rafal's character writing is amazing, his love for the truth he believes in is amazing. |
| What? The main character isn't supposed to off himself so early in the story. |
| Three episodes in and this might me a hidden sleeper anime of the year. Wow does this feel like watching Vinland Saga all over again. It feels nice going into an anime completely blind, seemingly on a whim with just a poster as recommendation. Glad I binged watched the first three episodes, it definitely feels like it was intended to be watched that way. Could even say that if the show was just a movie made from those three episodes, it would leave me satisfied, but knowing there is 24 episodes, it peaked my interests and my excitement is high. |
TechnopunkOct 12, 10:46 PM
 "Don't let your memes be dreams."- Ancient Japanese proverb, probably |
| I don't know what to say. I didn't expect him to get caught so early and to die as well. I'm shocked and mad that we didn't see more of Rafal. |
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| I was so busy lately and had a little time, so I watched this right away 3 episodes at once. If anyone here was surprised with rafal guy being dead, then imagine how I felt having watched all 3 episodes at once, to me it feels like his character is just about to develop himself but got killed even before he even get started. I feel like I didn't really know him that much tbh, that was really fast, like saying farewell to a person after just meeting them for first time, definitely what did just happened!? moment. I don't know if watching these first 3 episodes on time like 1 week per episode would've had the same effect to me... xDD But I'd really like to see where this series goes... |
jestynOct 13, 12:58 AM
| imagine advocating for the wrong version of our solar system when geocentrism advocated by the church was in fact the correct model all along. flat earthers were proven right so rafal deserved to get fired for his ignorant blasphemy. he should have done his due diligence better and i will die on that hill. |
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| I really didn’t expect this to happen so early, it was a great twist. However, as usual, you guys are overreacting to the value it brings to series. Chi was already my second most anticipated anime coming to season, so I expected a unique narrative and it hasn’t disappointed me so far in that respect. The pacing and the story-telling nuances of these 3 episodes could have been better though. There were not enough exposure to Rafal as a person to strengthen our identification with him to make this outcome more striking and emotionally satisfying. Hopefully, it will get better in terms of plot development and become an unforgettable experience. |
| The saving grace of the Fall season. If this were a shounen, Rafal would have gotten away with some talk no jutsu or a 3000 IQ move (like "the poppy willl fake my own death for a few hours, so I'll conveniently escape when the guards won't expect it!"). I don't mean to hate on shounen, but for stories like this one a seinen magazine is straight up better. |
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| Holy fucking shit?! I am so glad I knew nothing about this show beforehand, the key visuals, OP, ED, they all lied to us, like how Rafal do be lying. But in a way, Rafal will live forever in infamy. But who and how did Rafal pass on his heliocentrism knowledge for it to be only discovered 10 years later? Rafal was only with us for 3 episodes, but by God, he left such a lasting impact. Now I also have a theory that we will keep switching protagonists, all those people in the key visuals and OP, continuously passing the knowledge until it gets acknowledged as the truth. Man, I can't wait to see where we go next. Also, I need a full version of that OP ASAP, it's so good. |
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| THE DAD BELIEVES YOOO bro woke up and the opps were at his bed is it cooked? he do a little bit of trolling on trial DAMN SO RAFAL IS GONE ALREADY ON EPISODE 3? rip goat 😭 really liked him NEW MC TIME that is a crazy turn lmfao never would I have thought that would have happened |
  me candies:        |
It's only the 3rd episode and we already have a villain of the year. Unless there will be some development in his character after this 10 years has passed.  |
Reply to Mackyreels
The score would be 8.50+ rn if the animation was better, but theres nothing we could do anymore. These anime is very unique and amazing i can't wait for the next episode l, if demon slayer was carried by animation, orb was carried by the story which is a good thing.
5/5 episode
5/5 episode
| @Mackyreels Stop crying about animation 24x7. This have above avarage animation which is more than enough for a documentary style historical seinen anime. Demon Slayer on the other hand is a battle shounen it required top tier animation for its action choreography. |
| Had me laughing how that guy was freaking out over Rafal committing suicide and speaking heresy. |
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