Wistoria's Wand and Sword
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@deg Yeah it's been great but last two episode had heavy cg usage not that it was bad but hopefully there won't be more unless they want to do all the horse movements cg cause it's easier/less time consuming as horse movements are hard to animate.
| @MegamiRem true thats what i learn when watching shirobako that horse sakuga is hard to do |
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@MegamiRem ye and sakuga fest anime so there is elusive samurai on my watching list too
| @deg Oh yeah u watching Make heroine/shoushimin/atri? Really good stuff there as well. |
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@deg Oh yeah u watching Make heroine/shoushimin/atri? Really good stuff there as well.
| @MegamiRem nah im an action junkie more |
Chits_99 said: @V1P3R0P idgfa bullying, world is not rainbow, bro he is aiming for becoming magia vendor, u saw that teacher right even he isn't one. Will don't have magic power so it's given he needs to work hard. So what is he even expecting at this point, vip pass for magia vandor to fall from sky for him. He don't even have enough points for higher education. He earned most from academic and some from dungeon and bro wasn't even going to participate in that tornament so what exactly he expected? Watching from side line and teachers give him credits out of pity. Come one man be realistic he is aiming for something even magic people only dream about.. But it is never said that earning points is the "Only" way to become a magia vende. At the end of episode 3, we see Iris, a watcher for Magia vende, recommends Will to be accepted into the tower. |
deg said: @ejleon not if the higher ups back him up strongly like what happen with kafka in kaiju 8 he was supported by the highest general himself That’s that anime, not this anime. Not good to unfairly compare anime, that have nothing to do with each other, and are different stories altogether. Follow the events and context that are happening in this anime story, without thinking they have to follow other anime stories. Also, not good to insert your own personal morality / opinions on to a story that someone else is telling, you’ll just box yourself in to a specific theme. In this anime, basically the Principal (because she was personally impressed), a teacher, a student, support him, but even the Principal knew he was an extreme exception to the rule, and she allowed the teacher that was most against his enrollment to test him, with him barely passing his test. She was restrained by the academy’s policy and rules. So would say otherwise? |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
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deg said:
@ejleon not if the higher ups back him up strongly like what happen with kafka in kaiju 8 he was supported by the highest general himself
@ejleon not if the higher ups back him up strongly like what happen with kafka in kaiju 8 he was supported by the highest general himself
That’s that anime, not this anime.
Not good to unfairly compare anime, that have nothing to do with each other, and are different stories altogether.
Follow the events and context that are happening in this anime story, without thinking they have to follow other anime stories.
Also, not good to insert your own personal morality / opinions on to a story that someone else is telling, you’ll just box yourself in to a specific theme.
In this anime, basically the Principal (because she was personally impressed), a teacher, a student, support him, but even the Principal knew he was an extreme exception to the rule, and she allowed the teacher that was most against his enrollment to test him, with him barely passing his test.
She was restrained by the academy’s policy and rules.
So would say otherwise?
| @ejleon not exactly completely different scenario considering even the watcher recommended him to the magia vanders to be part of the tower anyway |
Chits_99 said: @V1P3R0P see that's what im taking about, the word u used PLOT. The way story was going ik author will pull sh*t like that. Means disappointed is around corner huh?? But this again proves my point. By just defeat one man he changed so many things then wtf he was doing all this past years, playing doll house??lmao Making him prove the point from the very beginning will make his personality more cartoonish than it already is. |
deg said: @ejleon not exactly completely different scenario considering even the watcher recommended him to the magia vanders to be part of the tower anyway You mean the love interest, since the watcher was told by her to do so, yeah that doesn’t count. Means basically nothing if he can’t prove himself. You got like 4-5 others that will be testing him too. Not everything can be solved because a higher up recommends you or helps you, in fact, that could actually cause him more problems |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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deg said:
@ejleon not exactly completely different scenario considering even the watcher recommended him to the magia vanders to be part of the tower anyway
@ejleon not exactly completely different scenario considering even the watcher recommended him to the magia vanders to be part of the tower anyway
You mean the love interest, since the watcher was told by her to do so, yeah that doesn’t count. Means basically nothing if he can’t prove himself.
You got like 4-5 others that will be testing him too.
Not everything can be solved because a higher up recommends you or helps you, in fact, that could actually cause him more problems
| @ejleon no the watcher the blonde or other orange haired girl that saw him fighting higher level monsters on the dungeon she was impress by how creative will was not really like i said the higher ups are authority so they can lessen the public bad perception about him |
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Chits_99 said:
@V1P3R0P idgfa bullying, world is not rainbow, bro he is aiming for becoming magia vendor, u saw that teacher right even he isn't one. Will don't have magic power so it's given he needs to work hard. So what is he even expecting at this point, vip pass for magia vandor to fall from sky for him. He don't even have enough points for higher education. He earned most from academic and some from dungeon and bro wasn't even going to participate in that tornament so what exactly he expected? Watching from side line and teachers give him credits out of pity. Come one man be realistic he is aiming for something even magic people only dream about..
@V1P3R0P idgfa bullying, world is not rainbow, bro he is aiming for becoming magia vendor, u saw that teacher right even he isn't one. Will don't have magic power so it's given he needs to work hard. So what is he even expecting at this point, vip pass for magia vandor to fall from sky for him. He don't even have enough points for higher education. He earned most from academic and some from dungeon and bro wasn't even going to participate in that tornament so what exactly he expected? Watching from side line and teachers give him credits out of pity. Come one man be realistic he is aiming for something even magic people only dream about..
But it is never said that earning points is the "Only" way to become a magia vende. At the end of episode 3, we see Iris, a watcher for Magia vende, recommends Will to be accepted into the tower.
| @V1P3R0P that's just pure in my case and u saw 2 people vote against him, one os waiting for opportunity and most important one choose not to say single sh*t lol |
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Chits_99 said:
@V1P3R0P idgfa bullying, world is not rainbow, bro he is aiming for becoming magia vendor, u saw that teacher right even he isn't one. Will don't have magic power so it's given he needs to work hard. So what is he even expecting at this point, vip pass for magia vandor to fall from sky for him. He don't even have enough points for higher education. He earned most from academic and some from dungeon and bro wasn't even going to participate in that tornament so what exactly he expected? Watching from side line and teachers give him credits out of pity. Come one man be realistic he is aiming for something even magic people only dream about..
@V1P3R0P idgfa bullying, world is not rainbow, bro he is aiming for becoming magia vendor, u saw that teacher right even he isn't one. Will don't have magic power so it's given he needs to work hard. So what is he even expecting at this point, vip pass for magia vandor to fall from sky for him. He don't even have enough points for higher education. He earned most from academic and some from dungeon and bro wasn't even going to participate in that tornament so what exactly he expected? Watching from side line and teachers give him credits out of pity. Come one man be realistic he is aiming for something even magic people only dream about..
But it is never said that earning points is the "Only" way to become a magia vende. At the end of episode 3, we see Iris, a watcher for Magia vende, recommends Will to be accepted into the tower.
| @V1P3R0P that's just pure in my case and u saw 2 people vote against him, one os waiting for opportunity and most important one choose not to say single sh*t lol |
Chits_99 said: @V1P3R0P that's just pure in my case and u saw 2 people vote against him, one os waiting for opportunity and most important one choose not to say single sh*t lol what are you even trying to say? You are not makimg any sense. |
Chits_99 said: @V1P3R0P sorry my bad im saying that way is pure luck imo. 2 of the magia vendor were against the idea. That wind one decided to wait for tornament and he even said that if someone is strong enough they would make there way up here anyway, which clearly will is not doing rn. And our fmc decide to give amazing pose to camera and sit like st*pid b*tch. You are seriously impatient arent you? You really want the MC to have little to no obstacles at all and expect all plots to be without plot twists and plot armours. Too bad, but this is not one of them. He doesnt become a magia vende by beating one guy. He just makes a point that hes not to be messed around and is not as incompetent as people think he is. Its only 1/4 that said "Hard Pass". The FMC not saying a word, doesn't mean she said No. It was maybe not the right time to give her vote as a dramatic effect towards her character, which I too am personally irritated of. And we as audience already have an idea of what her answer will be. So its basically 2-1-1 (Yes - if he can catch up - No). |
V1P3R0PAug 4, 10:38 AM
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@ejleon no the watcher the blonde or other orange haired girl that saw him fighting higher level monsters on the dungeon she was impress by how creative will was
not really like i said the higher ups are authority so they can lessen the public bad perception about him
not really like i said the higher ups are authority so they can lessen the public bad perception about him
| @deg You didn't pay attention to the anime or missed the ending scene where the "watcher" talked to the love interest and said that her choice was impressive, which is the watcher following the love interest's wishes, meaning the watcher is just doing her bidding. And you have this opinion like everyone listens to so called "higher ups", that does not happen in reality, nor does it happen in anime. I wil continue watching the story the writer / studio is presenting, not demand they follow what I or someone else thinks is better |
ejleonAug 4, 8:03 AM
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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ejleon said:
And in all honesty, this is not one of the best anime’s this season, it is maybe top 20 at best.
I'd like to know the other 19 anime ahead of it.And in all honesty, this is not one of the best anime’s this season, it is maybe top 20 at best.
| @MegamiRem You should read what people say better and pay attention to the context. I said the anime is in the top 20, not that it was number 20. And I was expressing a personal opinion, just like you were, no harm in that. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| Why are you censoring "stupid"? It's not a curse word lmao |
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@deg You didn't pay attention to the anime or missed the ending scene where the "watcher" talked to the love interest and said that her choice was impressive, which is the watcher following the love interest's wishes, meaning the watcher is just doing her bidding.
And you have this opinion like everyone listens to so called "higher ups", that does not happen in reality, nor does it happen in anime.
I wil continue watching the story the writer / studio is presenting, not demand they follow what I or someone else thinks is better
And you have this opinion like everyone listens to so called "higher ups", that does not happen in reality, nor does it happen in anime.
I wil continue watching the story the writer / studio is presenting, not demand they follow what I or someone else thinks is better
| @ejleon the watcher is free to decide for herself its implied that the love interest did not interfere with the watchers decision err ethos, pathos, logos says following authority is common even on ancient times most of the world is vaccinated during the pandemic and only few are antivaxxers or rebels for example im not saying the writer is not free to do what he wants what im saying is my personal expectations of the story based on my own subjective interpretation so can we stop this now? its like you do not want any criticism of this show at this point heck is it wrong for any fans to have expectations of what they consume? im even considering continuing to watch this show now that i know more spoilers about it thanks to this thread so do not ruin it more for me |
degAug 4, 8:27 AM
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@MegamiRem You should read what people say better and pay attention to the context.
I said the anime is in the top 20, not that it was number 20.
And I was expressing a personal opinion, just like you were, no harm in that.
I said the anime is in the top 20, not that it was number 20.
And I was expressing a personal opinion, just like you were, no harm in that.
ejleon said: You didn't write anything complicated that someone need to pay attention to understand context lol. Anyway you could have just said it's not at 20 but at "xx" rank but then again it shouldn't be higher than 16 cause if it was inside top 15 you'd say top 15 not 20. So there's still 15 other anime above it. I'd seriously like to know what 15 other animes in ur opinion is better than this. Also yes ofc it's ur opinion and there's no harm. I wasn't ridiculing/belittling/harrassing/... u and genuinely asked out of curiousty as to what 15-19 other anime could be better than this one, this season.@MegamiRem You should read what people say better and pay attention to the context. I said the anime is in the top 20, not that it was number 20. |
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| After JJK coming Everyone wants Gojo-Shit 🤡 This topic is hella shit |
 Hello Aru is here |
| It is annoying, yes. He's a magic-less who's trying to get a title where it's usually for those great at magic yet he's not doing something extraordinary to prove that his magic-less does make him suitable for such a title. Well, at least for these four episodes. The dragged story of his underdog-ness is unbearable to the point I always watch this show with double speed except when MC is kicking someone's ass. |
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@ejleon the watcher is free to decide for herself its implied that the love interest did not interfere with the watchers decision
err ethos, pathos, logos says following authority is common even on ancient times most of the world is vaccinated during the pandemic and only few are antivaxxers or rebels for example
im not saying the writer is not free to do what he wants what im saying is my personal expectations of the story based on my own subjective interpretation so can we stop this now? its like you do not want any criticism of this show at this point heck is it wrong for any fans to have expectations of what they consume?
im even considering continuing to watch this show now that i know more spoilers about it thanks to this thread so do not ruin it more for me
err ethos, pathos, logos says following authority is common even on ancient times most of the world is vaccinated during the pandemic and only few are antivaxxers or rebels for example
im not saying the writer is not free to do what he wants what im saying is my personal expectations of the story based on my own subjective interpretation so can we stop this now? its like you do not want any criticism of this show at this point heck is it wrong for any fans to have expectations of what they consume?
im even considering continuing to watch this show now that i know more spoilers about it thanks to this thread so do not ruin it more for me
| @deg Suggesting the watcher look into someone, is interfering with her job as a watcher, because it is not letting her find people herself, it is asking / telling her to look into someone. It is rare to find a leader that would contain such qualities that would fit ethos pathos logos, again you are expecting far too much of people. In history, it is usually the mindless gullible masses following like sheep, without thought or question, letting the “leaders” (usually corrupt) do what they want, but those who resist the leader’s authority (usually branded as rebels) are those able to think for themselves. I never said whether I liked or didn’t like the show, so for the sake of argument, I don’t like the show. I am not defending the show, I’m explaining what happened and saying that it makes no logical sense to say “this is how it should happen”, because the writer is telling their own story. You are free to have your opinion, but so am I, and I’m disagree with your opinion, but it seems you can’t handle that. I’m done now, it is obvious you refuse to consider anyone else’s perspective. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
MegamiRem said: ejleon said: You didn't write anything complicated that someone need to pay attention to understand context lol. Anyway you could have just said it's not at 20 but at "xx" rank but then again it shouldn't be higher than 16 cause if it was inside top 15 you'd say top 15 not 20. So there's still 15 other anime above it. I'd seriously like to know what 15 other animes in ur opinion is better than this. Also yes ofc it's ur opinion and there's no harm. I wasn't ridiculing/belittling/harrassing/... u and genuinely asked out of curiousty as to what 15-19 other anime could be better than this one, this season.@MegamiRem You should read what people say better and pay attention to the context. I said the anime is in the top 20, not that it was number 20. You claimed it was not complicated or hard to understand, but you made it far more confusing than I intended it to be. Top 10 Top 20 Top 30 … etc etc etc That is how I would organize it, so in that context, it could be #11 to #20, and still be top 20. This is different than you assumed. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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@deg Suggesting the watcher look into someone, is interfering with her job as a watcher, because it is not letting her find people herself, it is asking / telling her to look into someone.
It is rare to find a leader that would contain such qualities that would fit ethos pathos logos, again you are expecting far too much of people.
In history, it is usually the mindless gullible masses following like sheep, without thought or question, letting the “leaders” (usually corrupt) do what they want, but those who resist the leader’s authority (usually branded as rebels) are those able to think for themselves.
I never said whether I liked or didn’t like the show, so for the sake of argument, I don’t like the show. I am not defending the show, I’m explaining what happened and saying that it makes no logical sense to say “this is how it should happen”, because the writer is telling their own story.
You are free to have your opinion, but so am I, and I’m disagree with your opinion, but it seems you can’t handle that.
I’m done now, it is obvious you refuse to consider anyone else’s perspective.
It is rare to find a leader that would contain such qualities that would fit ethos pathos logos, again you are expecting far too much of people.
In history, it is usually the mindless gullible masses following like sheep, without thought or question, letting the “leaders” (usually corrupt) do what they want, but those who resist the leader’s authority (usually branded as rebels) are those able to think for themselves.
I never said whether I liked or didn’t like the show, so for the sake of argument, I don’t like the show. I am not defending the show, I’m explaining what happened and saying that it makes no logical sense to say “this is how it should happen”, because the writer is telling their own story.
You are free to have your opinion, but so am I, and I’m disagree with your opinion, but it seems you can’t handle that.
I’m done now, it is obvious you refuse to consider anyone else’s perspective.
| @ejleon no youre being forceful with your opinion is what i do not like like you said you got your own opinion and i got mine so lets end this here |
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@ejleon no youre being forceful with your opinion is what i do not like
like you said you got your own opinion and i got mine so lets end this here
like you said you got your own opinion and i got mine so lets end this here
| @deg Last comment, I was not being forceful, your are just too sensitive. Goodbye. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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| @ejleon youre the one preaching religiously there is a proper way to think of how to consume anime shows like interpreting it the way the writer wants it and not what the fans expects or wants, you cannot stop fan expectations and thinking of other better possibilities for the story if im that sensitive i would have been banned long ago by now and not accumulate the post count i have |
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@ejleon youre the one preaching religiously there is a proper way to think of how to consume anime shows like interpreting it the way the writer wants it and not what the fans expects or wants, you cannot stop fan expectations and thinking of other better possibilities for the story
if im that sensitive i would have been banned long ago by now and not accumulate the post count i have
if im that sensitive i would have been banned long ago by now and not accumulate the post count i have
| @deg You keep saying you want to just stop talking in this forum, but you continued the conversation, even after I said "Goodbye", so be it. "preaching religiously", this is an obvious false characterization you are trying to use to discredit me. I think it is unbecoming to insult religious people or any other people in an attempt to attack someone you disagree with. You can say whatever you want about any anime on MAL Forums, but the writers and studios, I seriously doubt that your single opinion is making any difference in the broad scheme of things, that is, in reality, to change what they write or animate. Also, you don't get banned for expressing opinions, nor was I against you expressing your own opinions, in fact, I would fight for your right to express your opinion. But would you do the same for me? You refuse to consider my opinion and you are agitated by people disagreeing with your opinion. You refuse to acknowledge that you might be wrong, and you have not said anything to prove that I am wrong. We cannot solve this here, so let us just drop it and agree to disagree. |
ejleonAug 5, 3:27 AM
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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@deg You keep saying you want to just stop talking in this forum, but you continued the conversation, even after I said "Goodbye", so be it.
"preaching religiously", this is an obvious false characterization you are trying to use to discredit me. I think it is unbecoming to insult religious people or any other people in an attempt to attack someone you disagree with.
You can say whatever you want about any anime on MAL Forums, but the writers and studios, I seriously doubt that your single opinion is making any difference in the broad scheme of things, that is, in reality, to change what they write or animate.
Also, you don't get banned for expressing opinions, nor was I against you expressing your own opinions, in fact, I would fight for your right to express your opinion. But would you do the same for me?
You refuse to consider my opinion and you are agitated by people disagreeing with your opinion.
You refuse to acknowledge that you might be wrong, and you have not said anything to prove that I am wrong.
We cannot solve this here, so let us just drop it and agree to disagree.
"preaching religiously", this is an obvious false characterization you are trying to use to discredit me. I think it is unbecoming to insult religious people or any other people in an attempt to attack someone you disagree with.
You can say whatever you want about any anime on MAL Forums, but the writers and studios, I seriously doubt that your single opinion is making any difference in the broad scheme of things, that is, in reality, to change what they write or animate.
Also, you don't get banned for expressing opinions, nor was I against you expressing your own opinions, in fact, I would fight for your right to express your opinion. But would you do the same for me?
You refuse to consider my opinion and you are agitated by people disagreeing with your opinion.
You refuse to acknowledge that you might be wrong, and you have not said anything to prove that I am wrong.
We cannot solve this here, so let us just drop it and agree to disagree.
| @ejleon lol outstanding psychoanalysis you know me better than a psychologist anyway ye good bye i just find it weird you want the last word so i will give it to you if you want now |
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@ejleon lol outstanding psychoanalysis you know me better than a psychologist anyway ye good bye i just find it weird you want the last word so i will give it to you if you want now
| @deg Your insults have gone too far. To be very clear, "psychology" and "psychologists" have done nothing but cause major problems for my family and people I know, so I would not wish something as awful as that on anyone. This conversation is over. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| The academy serves as the first step in those learning about magic, though the academy also trains magic technicians and doctors. Students study at the school for 6 years and can graduate to the Upper Academy in the Mercedes Caulis by obtaining enough credits. However, one can skip graduation and move on to the Upper Academy immediately through one of two ways; the first is by creating a new magic and the second is by being scouted during the Great Magic Festival. As both of these requirements are difficult, many students graduate by earning enough credits. Credit System Students must obtain at least 7200 of the 12000 total credits available from the 3 different areas; writing (筆記, 3600 credits available), practical training (実習, 3600 credits available), and practical skill (実技, 4800 credits available) in order to graduate to the Upper Academy (since Will can't get practical skill credits he is forced to get all credits in the remaining two areas). Students must obtain 1000 credits a year to move on to the next year and if a student doesn't choose to go to the Upper Academy they are allowed to graduate with 6000 credits. In order to gather practical training credits, students absorb mana (魔素) emitted by dead monsters using their wand, causing it to record what monsters the wielder has defeated so it can be checked by the academy later on. However, as Will can't use magic, he is forced to take monster drops with him to prove that he killed monsters. According to Liana Owenzaus, the upper year students still at the academy are "inferior" and are "leftovers" that have failed to create a new magic or be scouted. In Ignor Lindor's case, he is the only Elf remaining in Ligarden and is ridiculed by his fellow Elves for that fact. |
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@V1P3R0P no one i mean he not even taking seriously, like his current not even enough to go upper level education and he wasn't even gonna participate in tornament, just what exactly he was planning??
| @Chits_99 That sounded dumb to me too. He's in his last year. He even knows he's screwed, but has no plan. Instead, thanks to cheap writing, "conveniently" a racist dumbass barges in the tavern, fight happens and the guy "forces" will to participate in tournament. Something Will should've done anyways, but the author wants Will to go edgy-mode and join to enact revenge! I suppose Will will then be scouted by the 4 and allowed to advance despite low credits. How lucky and convenient! Such are my thoughts for now. |
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