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Apr 18, 2024 5:06 PM
#51
| Yup. American English if you want to split hairs. I personally have adopted a couple British-English slang terms into my vocabulary (e.g. snog) cuz I like how they sound. |
Sunlight, leading to an encounter; Dreams that don't want to end Continue onwards toward the next day While she waits in the air. |
Apr 18, 2024 5:46 PM
#52
Apr 19, 2024 1:28 AM
#53
| English is my native language. I can also speak a little bit of German, nowhere near perfect but enough that I've written snail-mail letters to people in Germany before in their own language and they understood me. |
Lost_VikingApr 19, 2024 1:32 AM
Apr 19, 2024 1:48 AM
#54
| Latin is my native language. DreamWindow said: I only speak English, despite being forced to learn French in school. Thanks, official bilingualism, for wasting my time learning a useless language. Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue. |
Apr 19, 2024 5:10 AM
#55
| English is not my native language, in fact, it's Spanish ^^ |
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Apr 19, 2024 5:49 AM
#56
Reply to Destinesia
English is not my native language, in fact, it's Spanish ^^
| The biggest question: Latin American Spanish or European Spanish? Both of them are two very different things. |
Apr 19, 2024 6:34 AM
#57
Reply to MalchikRepaid
The biggest question: Latin American Spanish or European Spanish? Both of them are two very different things.
| @MalchikRepaid You are right, it's Latin American Spanish |
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Apr 19, 2024 7:16 AM
#58
| It isn't, but it's one of the easiest-to-learn languages of all so it's not a deal |
Apr 19, 2024 8:07 AM
#59
Reply to KitsuFrost
It isn't, but it's one of the easiest-to-learn languages of all so it's not a deal
| @KitsuFrost what makes you think English is easy to learn? |
Apr 19, 2024 10:05 AM
#60
Reply to DesuMaiden
@KitsuFrost what makes you think English is easy to learn?
| @DesuMaiden The verbs are relatively easier than the ones in my native language, plus the sentences order isn't anything out of the ordinary like in eastern languages (cyrilic alphabet, asian languages etc) |
Apr 19, 2024 10:05 AM
#61
Reply to DesuMaiden
@KitsuFrost what makes you think English is easy to learn?
| @DesuMaiden The verbs are relatively easier than the ones in my native language, plus the sentences order isn't anything out of the ordinary like in eastern languages (cyrilic alphabet, asian languages etc) |
Apr 19, 2024 10:46 PM
#62
Reply to Meusnier
Latin is my native language.
Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue.
DreamWindow said:
I only speak English, despite being forced to learn French in school. Thanks, official bilingualism, for wasting my time learning a useless language.
I only speak English, despite being forced to learn French in school. Thanks, official bilingualism, for wasting my time learning a useless language.
Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue.
Meusnier said: Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue. I get it, you're European. You can stop starting everything with "this American way of thinking". Yes, learning a language can be valuable, I'm not saying it's never useful to learn a language. I'm saying it's a waste of time for the public school system to teach French all the way up until high school, since the vast majority of the English speaking population will never use it in their lives. Surely, these statements can both be true, at the same time, can they not? |
This ground is soiled by those before me and their lies. I dare not look up for on me I feel their eyes |
Apr 21, 2024 6:29 AM
#63
DreamWindow said: Meusnier said: Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue. I get it, you're European. You can stop starting everything with "this American way of thinking". Yes, learning a language can be valuable, I'm not saying it's never useful to learn a language. I'm saying it's a waste of time for the public school system to teach French all the way up until high school, since the vast majority of the English speaking population will never use it in their lives. Surely, these statements can both be true, at the same time, can they not? I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")? My point is that learning a language is always useful, as it is useful to learn how to read and analyse poetry... This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day. |
Apr 21, 2024 9:23 AM
#64
| To the people who are capable of reading what I wrote below.... If you speak three languages, you are trilingual. If you speak two languages, you are bilinguial. If you speak one language, there's a decent chance that you are an Anglo-Saxon. |
Apr 21, 2024 7:25 PM
#65
Reply to Meusnier
DreamWindow said:
I get it, you're European. You can stop starting everything with "this American way of thinking". Yes, learning a language can be valuable, I'm not saying it's never useful to learn a language. I'm saying it's a waste of time for the public school system to teach French all the way up until high school, since the vast majority of the English speaking population will never use it in their lives. Surely, these statements can both be true, at the same time, can they not?
Meusnier said:
Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue.
Poor devil... This purely American short-nearsightedness will always be comical to the rest of world, where most people speak at least two languages (and commonly three or more languages in South Asia or China). Leaning a language allows you get a better understanding of the world, it is never useless, and since "English is a French skeleton with German clothes," in your case, learning French actually allows you to reach a higher understanding of your mother tongue.
I get it, you're European. You can stop starting everything with "this American way of thinking". Yes, learning a language can be valuable, I'm not saying it's never useful to learn a language. I'm saying it's a waste of time for the public school system to teach French all the way up until high school, since the vast majority of the English speaking population will never use it in their lives. Surely, these statements can both be true, at the same time, can they not?
I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")? My point is that learning a language is always useful, as it is useful to learn how to read and analyse poetry... This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day.
Meusnier said: I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")? Edit: I see what you mean now. Simple mistake, I don't put much effort into proofreading forum posts. Still doesn't discredit anything I have to say. I know the correct usage. Meusnier said: This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day. You are making an error in assuming that all skills taught in school are of equal value. Reading, writing, mathematics are probably the only ones that are truly essential to learn. The rest can be learned elsewhere, and indeed the people who specialize in those fields are the type who pursue the knowledge on their own. But for the vast majority of people who leave the public school system, it is not the case. I don't know anyone who actually used french in their adult life, or even learned how to form any kind of coherent sentence, so, forgive me if I feel our time was wasted thanks to political interests, rather than contributing to our education. But certainly I would not consider learning a language that only a small minority of us even use as "elevating". If you want to speak of "elevating the souls of youngsters" we should first stop crushing their souls with public school indoctrination. Learning french (or any subject for that matter) in an indoctrination camp does nothing to elevate the souls of freedom loving people. It just teaches them how to shut up and take orders. |
DreamWindowApr 22, 2024 5:53 PM
This ground is soiled by those before me and their lies. I dare not look up for on me I feel their eyes |
Apr 22, 2024 9:03 PM
#66
| I tried to learn spanish when I was in high school but I was depressed at the time so learning a new language was basically impossible for me. |
| Go read Sousou no Frieren and One Piece they're the best thing ever |
Apr 24, 2024 7:07 AM
#67
| Why does it matter? Humanity is gonna die off in a near term extinction (NTE) so it is useless to have languages. |
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart! |
Apr 24, 2024 1:11 PM
#68
| Nope but I do speak 5 languages in total which makes it hard for me to be great at 1. So I just roll my eyes when ever some one complain on my English because the idiot is 90% only speaking English so they would not understand what a pain it is to keep track of 5. Heck I even have issue with my native language. |
Apr 25, 2024 7:47 AM
#69
| My native language is Malay. In my daily life I tend to mix both English and Malay while talking. |
| BWAHHHHHHHHHHH |
Apr 25, 2024 12:23 PM
#70
| English isn't my native language and I consider my English skills to be nowhere near the level of a native speaker. |
Apr 27, 2024 3:15 AM
#71
DreamWindow said: Meusnier said: I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")? Edit: I see what you mean now. Simple mistake, I don't put much effort into proofreading forum posts. Still doesn't discredit anything I have to say. I know the correct usage. Meusnier said: This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day. You are making an error in assuming that all skills taught in school are of equal value. Reading, writing, mathematics are probably the only ones that are truly essential to learn. The rest can be learned elsewhere, and indeed the people who specialize in those fields are the type who pursue the knowledge on their own. But for the vast majority of people who leave the public school system, it is not the case. I don't know anyone who actually used french in their adult life, or even learned how to form any kind of coherent sentence, so, forgive me if I feel our time was wasted thanks to political interests, rather than contributing to our education. But certainly I would not consider learning a language that only a small minority of us even use as "elevating". If you want to speak of "elevating the souls of youngsters" we should first stop crushing their souls with public school indoctrination. Learning french (or any subject for that matter) in an indoctrination camp does nothing to elevate the souls of freedom loving people. It just teaches them how to shut up and take orders. Do you expect me to believe that "you're government" is a "typo"? You are not the only here, even smart people keep using "it's" instead of "its" these days, but it was funny to see you mentioning the primary school rule as if I needed to be reminded of it... Anyway, I agree that it does not really matter to this discussion. The primary goal of school should not be to teach "skills" but to teach youngsters how to become intellectually independent and help them acquire a basic culture to achieve this goal. It honestly feels that I am talking to a wall... It is far more useful to society to become an educated person who will not fall for cheap propaganda than a drone who will only know how to fill a tax form. As such, poetry will always matter more than domestic finance. It is incredibly short-sighted to only teach what has an obvious application, for you are not training robots but human beings. What kind of indoctrination are you even talking about? Learning about trigonometry and passé simple must be a violation of human rights in your mind, but it should be obvious that learning about new forms of reasoning and other cultures (it does not to be the French one of course...) can only make you a better person. You sound like one of those "libertarians"... Having to learn French is school is indeed an inhumane form of indoctrination that may result into turning monolingual knaves with an room temperature IQ ("Why should I learn another language? I speak English!") into gentilhommes who will need to buy a baguette every morning and say « Bonjour, Mademoiselle. Comment allez-vous ? » to every pretty girl they see. Truly a horrific perspective. In fact, I do agree that public schools do tend to crush the souls of children (I have always hated school myself, mostly because you are surrounded by pretentious morons and do not learn anything—it goes way too slowly to cater to the average Jean) by forcing them to study fascinating topics in a very uninspired way: they would disgust you of Stendhal, Hugo, and Maupassant... But your rants only show that you have no idea about what constitutes a decent meal for the soul. You should be free to homeschool yours kids and only teach them boring topics of immediate application, but do not complain when you find out that you have produced fools or monsters. |
Apr 27, 2024 7:37 AM
#72
| My native language is bulgarian and the other ones i know are english and spanish (I'm learning it at school) |
"Oh, my Clematis. Please, stay by my side." |
Apr 27, 2024 7:53 AM
#73
| english is my third language, though ironically, it's the one i'm most fluent in lmao |
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Apr 27, 2024 10:23 AM
#74
| No, my mother tongue is metropolitan French. I do use English a lot regardless though. |
Apr 27, 2024 10:40 AM
#75
| born and raised as a white boy in the good ol usa .. so yeah :s |
Apr 27, 2024 6:03 PM
#76
Reply to Meusnier
DreamWindow said:
Edit: I see what you mean now. Simple mistake, I don't put much effort into proofreading forum posts. Still doesn't discredit anything I have to say. I know the correct usage.
You are making an error in assuming that all skills taught in school are of equal value. Reading, writing, mathematics are probably the only ones that are truly essential to learn. The rest can be learned elsewhere, and indeed the people who specialize in those fields are the type who pursue the knowledge on their own. But for the vast majority of people who leave the public school system, it is not the case. I don't know anyone who actually used french in their adult life, or even learned how to form any kind of coherent sentence, so, forgive me if I feel our time was wasted thanks to political interests, rather than contributing to our education.
But certainly I would not consider learning a language that only a small minority of us even use as "elevating". If you want to speak of "elevating the souls of youngsters" we should first stop crushing their souls with public school indoctrination. Learning french (or any subject for that matter) in an indoctrination camp does nothing to elevate the souls of freedom loving people. It just teaches them how to shut up and take orders.
Meusnier said:
I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")?
I knew that you would not get my point, but what should I expect from someone who confuses a verb and a determiner ("you're" and "your")?
Edit: I see what you mean now. Simple mistake, I don't put much effort into proofreading forum posts. Still doesn't discredit anything I have to say. I know the correct usage.
Meusnier said:
This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day.
This utility approach to knowledge is at the intellectual level of a schoolboy who says "Who needs maths? Maths sucks!" (see below). With this mindset of yours, we would only learn enough English to read the newspapers and write emails, enough mathematics to fill a tax form, and enough geography to place correctly Texas and California on a map. "Real life" skills are obvious "useful," but elevating the souls of youngsters is far more useful if you want to live in a society of free people, not of slaves who will do nothing against the "tyranny" that you keep denouncing day after day.
You are making an error in assuming that all skills taught in school are of equal value. Reading, writing, mathematics are probably the only ones that are truly essential to learn. The rest can be learned elsewhere, and indeed the people who specialize in those fields are the type who pursue the knowledge on their own. But for the vast majority of people who leave the public school system, it is not the case. I don't know anyone who actually used french in their adult life, or even learned how to form any kind of coherent sentence, so, forgive me if I feel our time was wasted thanks to political interests, rather than contributing to our education.
But certainly I would not consider learning a language that only a small minority of us even use as "elevating". If you want to speak of "elevating the souls of youngsters" we should first stop crushing their souls with public school indoctrination. Learning french (or any subject for that matter) in an indoctrination camp does nothing to elevate the souls of freedom loving people. It just teaches them how to shut up and take orders.
Do you expect me to believe that "you're government" is a "typo"? You are not the only here, even smart people keep using "it's" instead of "its" these days, but it was funny to see you mentioning the primary school rule as if I needed to be reminded of it... Anyway, I agree that it does not really matter to this discussion.
The primary goal of school should not be to teach "skills" but to teach youngsters how to become intellectually independent and help them acquire a basic culture to achieve this goal. It honestly feels that I am talking to a wall... It is far more useful to society to become an educated person who will not fall for cheap propaganda than a drone who will only know how to fill a tax form. As such, poetry will always matter more than domestic finance. It is incredibly short-sighted to only teach what has an obvious application, for you are not training robots but human beings.
What kind of indoctrination are you even talking about? Learning about trigonometry and passé simple must be a violation of human rights in your mind, but it should be obvious that learning about new forms of reasoning and other cultures (it does not to be the French one of course...) can only make you a better person. You sound like one of those "libertarians"... Having to learn French is school is indeed an inhumane form of indoctrination that may result into turning monolingual knaves with an room temperature IQ ("Why should I learn another language? I speak English!") into gentilhommes who will need to buy a baguette every morning and say « Bonjour, Mademoiselle. Comment allez-vous ? » to every pretty girl they see. Truly a horrific perspective. In fact, I do agree that public schools do tend to crush the souls of children (I have always hated school myself, mostly because you are surrounded by pretentious morons and do not learn anything—it goes way too slowly to cater to the average Jean) by forcing them to study fascinating topics in a very uninspired way: they would disgust you of Stendhal, Hugo, and Maupassant... But your rants only show that you have no idea about what constitutes a decent meal for the soul.
You should be free to homeschool yours kids and only teach them boring topics of immediate application, but do not complain when you find out that you have produced fools or monsters.
Meusnier said: Do you expect me to believe that "you're government" is a "typo"? You are not the only here, even smart people keep using "it's" instead of "its" these days, but it was funny to see you mentioning the primary school rule as if I needed to be reminded of it... Anyway, I agree that it does not really matter to this discussion. Find me another example of where I have used it wrong. You are being petty for no reason. Meusnier said: The primary goal of school should not be to teach "skills" but to teach youngsters how to become intellectually independent and help them acquire a basic culture to achieve this goal. It honestly feels that I am talking to a wall... It is far more useful to society to become an educated person who will not fall for cheap propaganda than a drone who will only know how to fill a tax form. As such, poetry will always matter more than domestic finance. It is incredibly short-sighted to only teach what has an obvious application, for you are not training robots but human beings. Ask yourself: when has public school ever taught students how to be intellectually independent? When has it ever taught them anything about their culture? Maybe it's different where you are. I highly doubt it, but it has never been the case here. Children do not care about being "intellectually independent" in school. Those who do quickly find out that the system does not encourage that, and only rewards those who think on the beaten path. Even in ART of all things! And they definitely do not care about their culture in school. They only care about getting by, and not stepping on any toes, because that is the way that the institution is designed. It is not designed to foster individual thought, it is designed to teach a very specific curriculum, with a very rigid grading structure, that creates a sort of antagonistic approach towards learning. The conservative argument that "it's either you shut up and do the curriculum or you are on the streets" is not how schooling should be structured, and it's such an awful way to approach education. (I am not saying that is your position, by the way, I am just using that as an example of the common response when any criticism of the system is brought up) Public school is the quickest way to drain any kind of passion or enthusiasm towards educating yourself on any subject. Those who advocate for public schooling are the ones who advocate for training robots rather than human beings. That's just how I see it. It's a one size fits all solution to a population that is incredibly diverse in terms of it's needs and accommodations, and the public school system fails to accommodate for that. Meusnier said: What kind of indoctrination are you even talking about? Learning about trigonometry and passé simple must be a violation of human rights in your mind, but it should be obvious that learning about new forms of reasoning and other cultures (it does not to be the French one of course...) can only make you a better person. You sound like one of those "libertarians"... Having to learn French is school is indeed an inhumane form of indoctrination that may result into turning monolingual knaves with an room temperature IQ ("Why should I learn another language? I speak English!") into gentilhommes who will need to buy a baguette every morning and say « Bonjour, Mademoiselle. Comment allez-vous ? » to every pretty girl they see. Truly a horrific perspective. In fact, I do agree that public schools do tend to crush the souls of children (I have always hated school myself, mostly because you are surrounded by pretentious morons and do not learn anything—it goes way too slowly to cater to the average Jean) by forcing them to study fascinating topics in a very uninspired way: they would disgust you of Stendhal, Hugo, and Maupassant... But your rants only show that you have no idea about what constitutes a decent meal for the soul. Public school is indoctrination precisely for the reasons I outlined above, and indeed part of your criticisms as well. Though you wrongfully place the blame on my critiques, when the folly is the institution itself. The public school system does not produce anything other than people with room temperature IQ that can do nothing but fill out tax forms -it's even worse than that. The entire purpose of the institution is to direct children towards a 9-5 work schedule, where they are willing to work for nothing, and completely destroy their interest in pursuing real knowledge that would better their lives and education. The end result of public school is to create workhorses, because it's those obedient workhorses who pay the most in taxes. It has nothing to do with elevating the minds of students, it limits their approach towards education, and boils it down to nothing more than grades and scores. Another part of the bureaucratic waste pile. You antagonize me, for not understanding the "soul" yet your critiques can very well be applied to the public school system, from my position. You even admit the problems of the system. It seems we have the same goal, but for some reason you vilify me when you already understand that the problem lies in the institution itself. Why are you antagonizing me if we share similar goals? Meusnier said: You should be free to homeschool yours kids and only teach them boring topics of immediate application, but do not complain when you find out that you have produced fools or monsters. This is not at all what I am talking about. There is so much more to life that they don't teach you in school. You want to produce fools and monsters? That's what you already have. A little more freedom in the way we approach education, and individual learning is not going to make things worse -it can only make it better. We literally have nothing to lose from trying alternative methods of education. |
DreamWindowApr 27, 2024 6:59 PM
This ground is soiled by those before me and their lies. I dare not look up for on me I feel their eyes |
Apr 27, 2024 10:05 PM
#77
| no amigo, el ingles no es mi idioma nativo, saludos |
Apr 28, 2024 2:52 AM
#79
Apr 29, 2024 12:19 AM
#80
| German is my native language, while English is basically my second language. My mother is from Poland, so I also can speak a bit of Polish, but not that much as English. |
Apr 29, 2024 12:36 AM
#81
| Tis English that is my native tongue. LightWorker said: Welsh is also famously confusing to say as written words by non-welsh speakers. Well yeah the spelling looks nothing like how it it sounds. |
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Apr 29, 2024 3:11 AM
#82
Reply to traed
Tis English that is my native tongue.
Well yeah the spelling looks nothing like how it it sounds.
LightWorker said:
Welsh is also famously confusing to say as written words by non-welsh speakers.
Welsh is also famously confusing to say as written words by non-welsh speakers.
Well yeah the spelling looks nothing like how it it sounds.
| @traed one of my proudest achievements as a kid was pronouncing Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch pretty well... which I can't anymore 😅 mercifully though it's shortened to Llanfairpwll on train announcements, which is much easier to say lol. |
Apr 29, 2024 7:41 PM
#83
Reply to GinIonSui
I envy English speakers. I decided to study English every day on MAL, lol.
| @GinIonSui, that's one hell of a way to do it. |
Apr 29, 2024 7:47 PM
#84
Apr 29, 2024 8:19 PM
#85
| My nfirst language is Arabic, my Eng is fine though |
Apr 29, 2024 8:27 PM
#86
Entity72 said: My nfirst language is Arabic, my Eng is fine though The question is.... which Arabic? Maghrebi, Egyptian, Levantine, Najdi, Baghdadi Arabic are so different and one of them could influence some pronounciations of generically accepted Modern Standard Arabic. |
Apr 30, 2024 8:32 AM
#87
| I wish it wasn't mine but growing up English written and spoken was a must. |
Apr 30, 2024 8:38 AM
#88
| Kinda. I grew up speaking 2 languages at home: English (American English to be more precise, though I've shifted to using British spellings) and Urdu. I normally joke that English is my mother language while Urdu is the father language. |
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