Reply to OVERLORD_05
3rd season will adapt Vol 7 and 8
4th season could have vol 9 and 10
They can complete the story in the 5th season with the last arc having 3 volumes, although it will be a lot to do in a single season and they will have to cut a lot of detail and side character moments which won't be any good for their character development but it's likely their only option.
4th season could have vol 9 and 10
They can complete the story in the 5th season with the last arc having 3 volumes, although it will be a lot to do in a single season and they will have to cut a lot of detail and side character moments which won't be any good for their character development but it's likely their only option.
| @OVERLORD_05 ok, but S1 used Volumes 1-4 at 13 episodes and S2 used Vols. 5&6 at 12 eps... most 'non-haters' i've read online think S1 cut too much and S2 was paced nigh on perfectly. why would studio Asread STILL keep to the 2 Volumes per 12-ish episode formula ONLY to drop the ball TERRIBLY in your theory by using 3 Volumes for the final season? are there utterly and completely un-cuttable arcs in Vol. 7 that move into Vol. 8 for their conclusion? did nothing in Vol. 6 move into Vol. 7? was that why Vol. 7 wasn't used in S2? what about Vol. 8 allows you to 'cut it off' with just Season 3? does nothing in Vol. 8 move into Vol. 9? would you say Vol. 9 start something wholly different and new from Vol. 8 that wouldn't need to be in a Season with Vols. 7&8? does the Vol. 9 'something' continues into Vol. 10? see where i'm going here? unless you can see the patterns used in the first 13 eps. in S1 VS the Vols.1-4; THEN do the same thing with the 12 eps. in S2 VS the Vols. 5&6... that 2 books per Season formula isn't set in stone. |
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Reply to OVERLORD_05
KiliianSleipnir said:
@OVERLORD_05 ok, but S1 used Volumes 1-4 at 13 episodes and S2 used Vols. 5&6 at 12 eps... most 'non-haters' i've read online think S1 cut too much and S2 was paced nigh on perfectly. why would studio Asread STILL keep to the 2 Volumes per 12-ish episode formula ONLY to drop the ball TERRIBLY in your theory by using 3 Volumes for the final season?
are there utterly and completely un-cuttable arcs in Vol. 7 that move into Vol. 8 for their conclusion? did nothing in Vol. 6 move into Vol. 7? was that why Vol. 7 wasn't used in S2?
what about Vol. 8 allows you to 'cut it off' with just Season 3?
does nothing in Vol. 8 move into Vol. 9?
would you say Vol. 9 start something wholly different and new from Vol. 8 that wouldn't need to be in a Season with Vols. 7&8?
does the Vol. 9 'something' continues into Vol. 10?
see where i'm going here? unless you can see the patterns used in the first 13 eps. in S1 VS the Vols.1-4; THEN do the same thing with the 12 eps. in S2 VS the Vols. 5&6... that 2 books per Season formula isn't set in stone.
@OVERLORD_05 ok, but S1 used Volumes 1-4 at 13 episodes and S2 used Vols. 5&6 at 12 eps... most 'non-haters' i've read online think S1 cut too much and S2 was paced nigh on perfectly. why would studio Asread STILL keep to the 2 Volumes per 12-ish episode formula ONLY to drop the ball TERRIBLY in your theory by using 3 Volumes for the final season?
are there utterly and completely un-cuttable arcs in Vol. 7 that move into Vol. 8 for their conclusion? did nothing in Vol. 6 move into Vol. 7? was that why Vol. 7 wasn't used in S2?
what about Vol. 8 allows you to 'cut it off' with just Season 3?
does nothing in Vol. 8 move into Vol. 9?
would you say Vol. 9 start something wholly different and new from Vol. 8 that wouldn't need to be in a Season with Vols. 7&8?
does the Vol. 9 'something' continues into Vol. 10?
see where i'm going here? unless you can see the patterns used in the first 13 eps. in S1 VS the Vols.1-4; THEN do the same thing with the 12 eps. in S2 VS the Vols. 5&6... that 2 books per Season formula isn't set in stone.
Season 3 will have Vol 7 and 8 if you have seen the PV's and trailer, also their story has a connection. Season 4 could have 9 and 10 as their story is connected as well, although they could adapt 11 as well if they adapt it as 4 episodes per volume and it will have an amazing cliffhanger as well. I guess looking at the length and content of the volumes Season 4 could adapt three novels instead of two. Season 5 will definitely have Vol 12 and 13 together since they are basically single volume cut in two and it's the climax.
I admit I was pretty biased when I said last season would also have vol 11 because I thought the season would be boring if all it had was war. But looking at the length of Vol 9 and especially 10, that season could also adapt vol 11 as well. That would also give them the ability to have the extra chapter of Vol 11 which is pretty good and important in the beginning of last season as well. All this would obviously work if we get to see the whole story in Anime so let's hope for the best and see how the studio handles it.
| @OVERLORD_05 aha! well thanks for the pattern analysis! so by your reading: S3 7&8 S4 9&10&11(probable) S5 tiny piece of 11&12&13 so you're feeling the shift out of the 2 Vols./12eps. pattern would not be 'now', but the 'middle' Season between 'now' and the finale. mhm! i'm thinking if i was charting things out, taking the 'connected' novels and placing them into a single season... without a cour break... would make the fans happier. also, since 'Caretaker of the Goddess' Dorm' was Asread's ONLY project other than Arifureta in recent years, and that one was only 10 episodes, AND 'COTGD' was Asread's ONLY solo project since Spring 2016's 'Big Order (TV)'... strangely enough ALSO just 10 episodes long... are you sure Asread can handle 12 episodes of Arifureta solo? they did 'I Couldn't Become a Hero, So I Reluctantly Decided to Get a Job' which was a solo project of 12 eps. but... that was 2013. after a decade plus a year, i would hope Asread has improved significantly since then... even with their multiple duo-lead animation studio projects. i personally think that the production values in 'COTGD' were astoundingly awesome compared to Arifureta S1&2... even adding the god tier WhiteFox into the mix... |
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Reply to CheliosX
I think there will be a last season after this. I'm a huge fan after all plus I haven't read the LN since I like the suspense.
| @CheliosX I too hope there will be at least one more season. From what I've seen and heard, there's still a good bit left. Hopefully this current season will continue to do well first and foremost, and we'll see how much of the anime they proceed through. |
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Reply to MikadoWu1
@KiliianSleipnir I know this is an old thread, but my two cents... @OVERLORD_05 did a good job on the future.
You asked about people being mad that to much was cut from LN 1-4. Balancing content for an Anime is questionable. Few Shows are able to pull off the pacing that Frieren does. IMO, there is a lot of Frieren type pacing in LN 1-4, there is also a lot of Frieren in LN 11. I can not through the spoilers though.
They tried to use some still shots to represent the missing content, but it did not work. The 2 really big Moments in 1-4 are Hajime's Transformation and Shea. Hajime goes Feral, beast like, they explain this later but it does not hold a candle to the experience. Hajime actually dies of Hungry repeatedly, the Water revives him each time, until he finds his resolve to kill and eat the wolves.
For Shea, there is a lot more presented to the bound/relationship of Hajime, Shea and Yue... The creation of the ball busters and the second dungeon taking a lot long to make it through. You have a much better understanding of how Shea bonds with the other too, and falls in love with both.
Also, there is a lot of training in the Orcus Cavern after it is cleared, Hajime creating is Gun-Fu Technique. Hajime and Yue, reading, created artifacts, and Yue jumping Hajime's bones every chance she gets. Attacking him with Heart shape Fireballs and such.
A major factor on completely the story is going to be the Manga, the Web Main story has been over for 8 years or so and the light novel for 2. As for the Manga, the Anime is now ahead of it. As long as the Manga is not dropped. The anime should finish in line with the manga.
IMO, Season 3 should be the best of the bunch. No spoilers, but again a lot of Frieren in the finally 5 books. Like Frieren, it is the part of the story that really make it a masterpiece. I do not expected it to be adapted in that way. People want the to be a Marvel Action Movie, not Saving Private Ryan. There is a lot of content on how each of our characters are dealing with their own PTSD issues. It may not fly well with Western Countries, as it is addressed in a contrary may. There are members of the Harem, that just do not need to be there, it does nothing to grow the story. Those should be written out.
Anyways, I loved the start of S3, glad my Boy is back.
Signed Best Girl Shizuku.
You asked about people being mad that to much was cut from LN 1-4. Balancing content for an Anime is questionable. Few Shows are able to pull off the pacing that Frieren does. IMO, there is a lot of Frieren type pacing in LN 1-4, there is also a lot of Frieren in LN 11. I can not through the spoilers though.
They tried to use some still shots to represent the missing content, but it did not work. The 2 really big Moments in 1-4 are Hajime's Transformation and Shea. Hajime goes Feral, beast like, they explain this later but it does not hold a candle to the experience. Hajime actually dies of Hungry repeatedly, the Water revives him each time, until he finds his resolve to kill and eat the wolves.
For Shea, there is a lot more presented to the bound/relationship of Hajime, Shea and Yue... The creation of the ball busters and the second dungeon taking a lot long to make it through. You have a much better understanding of how Shea bonds with the other too, and falls in love with both.
Also, there is a lot of training in the Orcus Cavern after it is cleared, Hajime creating is Gun-Fu Technique. Hajime and Yue, reading, created artifacts, and Yue jumping Hajime's bones every chance she gets. Attacking him with Heart shape Fireballs and such.
A major factor on completely the story is going to be the Manga, the Web Main story has been over for 8 years or so and the light novel for 2. As for the Manga, the Anime is now ahead of it. As long as the Manga is not dropped. The anime should finish in line with the manga.
IMO, Season 3 should be the best of the bunch. No spoilers, but again a lot of Frieren in the finally 5 books. Like Frieren, it is the part of the story that really make it a masterpiece. I do not expected it to be adapted in that way. People want the to be a Marvel Action Movie, not Saving Private Ryan. There is a lot of content on how each of our characters are dealing with their own PTSD issues. It may not fly well with Western Countries, as it is addressed in a contrary may. There are members of the Harem, that just do not need to be there, it does nothing to grow the story. Those should be written out.
Anyways, I loved the start of S3, glad my Boy is back.
Signed Best Girl Shizuku.
| @MikadoWu1 no problems on the age of this Forum Thread. MAL keeps them up, open, and active (except for the locked or deleted ones) pretty much forever. unless folks turn off notifications entirely and utterly for a Thread, (and their UserName etc.) everybody posting in Forums can expect some form of 'interaction' at some future moment. pacing an anime is a bitchkitty. writing adapting changing leaving out putting extra in... all you have to do is watch AniNews' entire YouTube Channel to see all their 'skipped content' videos for multiple franchises. my personal ideas on how things go from 'something' to anime can be simplified into three items. firstly, leave out WebNovel content. ignore it as it pertains to an anime version. except for the pure fun of reading what the author penned without any input from professional editors, lawyers, publishers, entertainment agents and so forth. WebNovel content is... fan fiction at its finest... the direct upload of the author's creativity online. almost no publisher anywhere or Big Yen Guys/producers will permit an anime studio to use online-only content. even web manga almost 100% of the time HAVE to have a physical paper holdable in somebodies' hands (even tankobon/omnibus format) to make a profit off of with an anime adaptation. secondly, physical publications. manga changes LN content, LN changes WebNovel content, in-game/VisualNovel events are modified. everything sourced from something else as an adaptation changes something. even Kubo-sensei has added canonical input (beyond the previously published Shonen Jump pages AND the printed LightNovels) on his 'pay to join' personal website for fans of Bleach and his other stuff. thirdly, anime. and that all boils down to... amount of time from the start of the project till the date of TV/theater/internet release, total number of episodes, length of those episodes, and amount of content the studio is handed to source their writing from. there are two perfect bookend examples of this last item. one, is Summer '24 'The Magical Girl and the Evil Lieutenant Used to Be Archenemies'. that manga was cut short (21 Chapters in 3 Volumes) due to the mangaka passing away before completing it. so, studio Bones made 12minute-ish duration episodes for 12 weeks of episodes. on the opposite end of that example? two, was 2010's 'Katanagatari'. WhiteFox and the LN author NISIO ISIN created 12 MONTHLY episodes of 40+ minutes duration wherein each episode adapted a WHOLE VOLUME of his 12-book series. fans of a source will always cry out into the ether, 'moar is betterrrr! put it all in the anime!!!' but even the most rabid fanboys/girls should realize, that just can't happen. sex. yeah, one boink in the bath and a bunch of innuendos and bold-faced statements of 'we're smexing alot all the time.' is plenty for a TV anime... that doesn't have an H-studio making it for disk-only sales and adult streaming sites. ;9 as for anime Year and Season release timing? ignore the manga adaptation publication dates and releases as a variable for guesstimations on the anime adaptation of a DIFFERENT source material. the mangaka has a schedule and deadlines to meet, even if the LN are entirely 100% on shelves. the OPPOSITE will probably be the case, the MANGA chapter(s) could be finished and 'kept in the vault!' of the publishing house WELL BEFORE the anime are even created and ready for their release. that's the fun thing about adaptations... and publishing in general of physical paper copies. unless the mangaka or LN author or publisher etc. leaks the work-schedules or blogs it or twits it? we as readers/consumers will NEVER know how long the creatives actually needed to create it! great example of that problem? 'The Irregular at Magic High School' LN/anime/manga franchise. Episode 1 of Season 1 for the anime released in Japan on TV April 6, 2014. guess what was released to the public on April 10, 2014? LN Volume 13. do you think the LN author 'rushed' his work to get that specific Volume out exactly FOUR DAYS after the 1st anime episode aired? ;) nope, the publisher held it back specifically so sales of the first 12 Volumes and #13 would get a big bump. don't forget about how audiences will react differently to parts of a media franchise depending on THEIR cultural norms. that PTSD thing? hmm... Japan has had a long-standing stigma against people with mental health issues and treatment/medicines etc. that stigma is slowly but surely being eroded and is changing. the West? well... those of us (like myself) with military/combat mental issues and family/friends/acquaintances of my fellow soldiers... as well as folks who were victims of abuse or tragic accidents or the other causes of PTSD... will have (i HOPE!) more enlightened and progressive views on any Arifureta anime content touching on that subject. 'Jobless Reincarnation' has used those mental health themes more than once, with varying reactions by viewers/readers worldwide. have a great day! :D |
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| Have the same question.. I wonder how much S this anime will have.. I wanted to watch this, but I don't want to stop it in the middle.. I think I will wait more N watch another anime.. |
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