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Feb 28, 2024 8:26 AM
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I don't know why no one talks about it but I think the biggest problem with frieren is the repitative nature of show which is as follows -

Frieren and group has some task
Frieren remember how she also did the same task with himmel 100 years ago

I don't dislike episodic show much but if there is episodic show which uses same formula every single episode it gets boring ( however frieren is saved due to great music and animation), i think an episodic show should at least have 3 -4 different formulas and can repeat them

However the current arc is actually great and is not the feeling the same, i hope ready of show us line thts too

edit: seems like frieren fans are delusional and can't take any criticism at all
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Feb 28, 2024 8:32 AM
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well that is the point the show is telling 2 plots the past with himmel and the present with fern and co
Feb 28, 2024 8:39 AM
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Before the journey with Himmel she didn't really care about anything.But the adventures she had with him had a great impact on her personality and how she goes about doing things.
The anime shows side by side both the events to emphasize this idea. Yes it may look repetitive but it's actually not.
This is because she is an elf she's not gonna die anytime soon so whenever she does something or meets someone new, the way she approaches is different and to show this why they show the past which is the reason.
Don't know if you understood what I mean but that's at least what I think.
Feb 28, 2024 8:42 AM
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Take that argument and apply it to every anime, tv show, movie, and even real life.
You wake up, eat breakfast, go to work/school/kindergarten, go home, eat dinner, play games and watch anime then sleep.
Dragonball has plot: bad guy appears, too powerful for good guys. Good guys train/ learn to go another layer of seiyan, lots of screaming and kamehameha, bad guy defeated. For literally years. It works, what’s the problem? That goes for nearly all power fantasy shows. And many long running sol. But Frieren repetitive? Not really, different objectives every few shows, different types of threat/danger, not too much combat… it’s a great balance. It’s not top rated without a reason…
Feb 28, 2024 8:59 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
Take that argument and apply it to every anime, tv show, movie, and even real life.
You wake up, eat breakfast, go to work/school/kindergarten, go home, eat dinner, play games and watch anime then sleep.
Dragonball has plot: bad guy appears, too powerful for good guys. Good guys train/ learn to go another layer of seiyan, lots of screaming and kamehameha, bad guy defeated. For literally years. It works, what’s the problem? That goes for nearly all power fantasy shows. And many long running sol. But Frieren repetitive? Not really, different objectives every few shows, different types of threat/danger, not too much combat… it’s a great balance. It’s not top rated without a reason…

You, sir, just blew my mind with the real life example, how have I not realized that real life is more repetitive than any anime ever
Feb 28, 2024 8:59 AM
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Yes, totally agree. It has been 24 episodes and I still see Frieren in each of these episodes. I think u put it kindly. Im going to be more harsh. It is too repetitive. They even played same opening song for more than 3 episodes.
Feb 28, 2024 9:00 AM
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I personally think that the himmel's flashbacks have lost any emotional value because they use them in every episode, so at least for me I find them funny.
Feb 28, 2024 9:07 AM
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I find it very interesting when people complain about an anime following it’s own exact title / description.

Just the other day, someone made a forum post complaining that the “Goblin Slayer” anime series was “boring”, because “all it showed was them slaying goblins”.

And now someone is complaining that Sousou no Frieren “repeats” in showing Frieren waking up to realize that all the memories of her 10 year journey with her fellow adventurers to defeat the demon lord is precious to her, as she is on new journey with new adventurers and making new memories.

Basically not paying attention to the exact points of either show.

It amazes me how this happens.

It’s like a person going into a restaurant named “The Burger House”, with ads stating “We serve Burgers”, and menus that show the “Burgers” they prepare, but then the person complains that this restaurant only serves burgers and saying “Why can’t you serve spaghetti?”.

It baffles me. 😅🤦🏻‍♂️
ejleonFeb 28, 2024 9:22 AM
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Feb 28, 2024 9:15 AM
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I don't agree with this criticism, the journey feels highly diverse because they are doing different things most of the time.

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Feb 28, 2024 9:17 AM
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recurring narrative themes ≠ repetitive.

if television had no recurring narrative themes, every show would just be pop team epic
Feb 28, 2024 9:19 AM

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recurring narrative themes ≠ repetitive.

if television had no recurring narrative themes, every show would just be pop team epic

Well said 👏 100% agree

Even life can repeat itself, that doesn’t make life boring.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Feb 28, 2024 9:38 AM

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I can't even tell if this thread is serious or not.

My doctor has always told me to smoke. He even explains himself: “Smoke, my friend. Otherwise someone else will smoke in your place.”

Feb 28, 2024 9:48 AM
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Personally I’m finding breathing quite repetitive tbh, is there a more exciting alternative?
On a similar note, I wonder how much of her world’s atmosphere have been through Frieren’s lungs in her lifetime? Must be a significant percentage!
Feb 28, 2024 10:17 AM
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this is like saying the godfather 2 was boring and one note because it two plots going back and forward and that became too repetitive and boring so it needs another one to repeat to be better?
Feb 28, 2024 10:39 AM
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This spelling is crazy
Feb 28, 2024 11:04 AM
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(Coming from a Haikyuu enjoyer)
Feb 28, 2024 11:08 AM
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Khushal_v said:
I don't know why no one talks about it but I think the biggest problem with frieren is the repitative nature of show which is as follows -

Frieren and group has some task
Frieren remember how she also did the same task with himmel 100 years ago

I don't dislike episodic show much but if there is episodic show which uses same formula every single episode it gets boring ( however frieren is saved due to great music and animation), i think an episodic show should at least have 3 -4 different formulas and can repeat them

However the current arc is actually great and is not the feeling the same, i hope ready of show us line thts too

Wow my biggest problem seems like I keep seeing wild repetitive takes every week on the internet…masterfully done everytime💀
Feb 28, 2024 11:47 AM
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Feb 28, 2024 11:56 AM
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Khushal_v said:
I don't know why no one talks about it but I think the biggest problem with frieren is the repitative nature of show which is as follows -

Frieren and group has some task
Frieren remember how she also did the same task with himmel 100 years ago

I don't dislike episodic show much but if there is episodic show which uses same formula every single episode it gets boring ( however frieren is saved due to great music and animation), i think an episodic show should at least have 3 -4 different formulas and can repeat them

However the current arc is actually great and is not the feeling the same, i hope ready of show us line thts too

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Feb 28, 2024 12:06 PM
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The older you get the more life gets like this. Something happens and immediately it triggers a memory of some parallel occurrence from maybe decades ago, accompanied by feelings of maybe happiness but also grief, regret, shame, frustration etc. Call it repetitive but that is how life really is.
Feb 28, 2024 1:48 PM
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E-Satie said:
I can't even tell if this thread is serious or not.

It's "repitative".
Feb 28, 2024 2:37 PM
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GTRaijin said:
E-Satie said:
I can't even tell if this thread is serious or not.

It's "repitative".

Hey it's mispelled the same in the title and in the post itself, so at least that's ... repitative. Not sure if points lost or points gained.
Feb 28, 2024 2:53 PM
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I noticed people like to blame the pacing (even if there is nothing wrong with it).

OP is probably having problems connecting with the characters but sticks around for the fights.
Feb 28, 2024 4:54 PM
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I mean if you want to simply it to that degree then every show ever is just as repetitive.
Feb 28, 2024 5:04 PM

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Funny enough, many people who are now defending repetitiveness happening in most of this anime's episode, would surely shit on dunno, battle shounens with "villain of the week" stuff. What is "just a recurring theme" in one shounen show, is "awful, uninspiring and lame" in another one, it seems.

I agree with OP. Many episodes of Sousou no Frieren were enjoyable to watch, due to art and music, but were also dull as heck. It's not about the intensity and amount of action sequences, but rather repetitive formula present in, like I said before, most of its episodes.

However, it shouldn't be that much surprising. It's just a shounen series. That kind of narration isn't anything new among shows belonging to this demographics. In Frieren's case, I admit it's done in a mediocre way, but welp. At least music and art are good.
Feb 28, 2024 10:59 PM
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Jeevasnt said:
I personally think that the himmel's flashbacks have lost any emotional value because they use them in every episode, so at least for me I find them funny.

unironically agree lol
Feb 28, 2024 11:00 PM
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Funny enough, many people who are now defending repetitiveness happening in most of this anime's episode, would surely shit on dunno, battle shounens with "villain of the week" stuff. What is "just a recurring theme" in one shounen show, is "awful, uninspiring and lame" in another one, it seems.

I agree with OP. Many episodes of Sousou no Frieren were enjoyable to watch, due to art and music, but were also dull as heck. It's not about the intensity and amount of action sequences, but rather repetitive formula present in, like I said before, most of its episodes.

However, it shouldn't be that much surprising. It's just a shounen series. That kind of narration isn't anything new among shows belonging to this demographics. In Frieren's case, I admit it's done in a mediocre way, but welp. At least music and art are good.

it's almost as fans of any media are always afraid of genuine critcism

people had this same critcism against shield hero S3 last season lol
Feb 28, 2024 11:02 PM
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and heeeeere come Frieren fans defending the show from genuine criticism by using arguments that prove the OP's point

remember when people shat on shield hero S3 and goblin slayer for this exact same thing
Feb 28, 2024 11:52 PM
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and heeeeere come Frieren fans defending the show from genuine criticism by using arguments that prove the OP's point

remember when people shat on shield hero S3 and goblin slayer for this exact same thing
@Saimatsu_Fan And here comes the dude that comments in every frieren hate thread.

On the actual topic, there's nothing wrong with repetition in shows. Some people have different tolerances for it, especially when its related to the main theme of the show. A show about loss and regret is bound to have a good amount of flashbacks. It's like how mystery shows will constantly have different mysteries and superhero shows will have the same plot of new villains + the hero getting strong, albeit these occur over much longer periods. It's understandable if people don't like repetition, but I feel like this tends to be related to a preference with the underlying theme. After all, it's easier to say all superhero movies are boring and repetitive the more you hate the genre/theme.

On Frieren itself, though the show has multiple flashbacks, they tend to cover different themes such as humor, worldbuilding, sadness/regrets, or simply building hype. I personally love them, but I can see why people can get jaded to it. One underlying problem might just be the fact that Frieren is episodic and self-contained by nature. It becomes harder to spread these themes out if each chapter has a self-contained story, then the anime adapts two chapters per episode. Frieren's adaptation into an anime is awesome, but packing so many short stories next to each other can definitely raise concerns about repetitiveness.

However, like I said earlier this is closely related to how much someone enjoys the theme. I adore each short story/flashback and being able to see well-written short stories one after another is always a joy. Someone that doesn't really relate to any of the stories or just isn't interested the characters will have a much easier time disagreeing with me.
Feb 29, 2024 1:23 AM
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I personally think that the himmel's flashbacks have lost any emotional value because they use them in every episode, so at least for me I find them funny.

unironically agree lol
@Saimatsu_Fan You think flashbacks with himmel got overused? You wouldn't believe what happened in the last chapters in the manga XD
Feb 29, 2024 2:07 AM
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Khushal_v said:
I don't know why no one talks about it but I think the biggest problem with frieren is the repitative nature of show which is as follows -

Frieren and group has some task
Frieren remember how she also did the same task with himmel 100 years ago

I don't dislike episodic show much but if there is episodic show which uses same formula every single episode it gets boring ( however frieren is saved due to great music and animation), i think an episodic show should at least have 3 -4 different formulas and can repeat them

However the current arc is actually great and is not the feeling the same, i hope ready of show us line thts too

edit: seems like frieren fans are delusional and can't take any criticism at all

does any fanbase take criticism well 😅
Feb 29, 2024 2:28 AM

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People disagree with me = delusional. Lets also ignore that there are people clearly agreeing with you too, what kind of result did you expect so the fanbase wouldn’t seem delusional to you? Everyone just saying yes you’re right? You really have seen some top notch fanbases if you have standards this high
Feb 29, 2024 2:41 AM
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I love the show, but I agree that the "perfect flashbacks" are a little too much sometimes. I have this problem with the manga too. However, it's still great to me, because the pay off in the end of the "lessons" are worth it. It's giving a really beautiful journey.
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Instead of replying to the comments OP really edited their comment and said that the fanbase is delusional after getting owned by them lol.

I really like how whenever a MAL user started to lose an arguement they call others delusional to deal with the situation.
Feb 29, 2024 3:36 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
Take that argument and apply it to every anime, tv show, movie, and even real life.
You wake up, eat breakfast, go to work/school/kindergarten, go home, eat dinner, play games and watch anime then sleep.
Dragonball has plot: bad guy appears, too powerful for good guys. Good guys train/ learn to go another layer of seiyan, lots of screaming and kamehameha, bad guy defeated. For literally years. It works, what’s the problem? That goes for nearly all power fantasy shows. And many long running sol. But Frieren repetitive? Not really, different objectives every few shows, different types of threat/danger, not too much combat… it’s a great balance. It’s not top rated without a reason…

You, sir, just blew my mind with the real life example, how have I not realized that real life is more repetitive than any anime ever

ooh your life must be fun then, lucky you
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CrunchyCrobat said:

You, sir, just blew my mind with the real life example, how have I not realized that real life is more repetitive than any anime ever

ooh your life must be fun then, lucky you

Fun? Oh no no no, it's even more mundane than a regular high school student life, don't even have friends to go out and about with, it's just, you get so used to some things yoy never really think too hard about it
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Sorry but you seem to be complaining about world building of a fantasy epic 😁

but I understand to be honest many people have a low attention span this isn't an attack or insult it's just kind of the truth of these days.
Feb 29, 2024 7:09 AM
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"Frieren's fans can't take the criticism" so stating some logical reasons they've towards the show they're certainly loving now makes them delulu and haters to you right? I rather say you just can't accept it how people are not agreeing with you or you're expecting that people should not write their opinions for the thread you've certainly started to ask their opinions in the first place.
Feb 29, 2024 7:21 AM

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Welp, that's the point of the show, they connect the present (frieren with fern) to the past (frieren with himmel) through silly little things like visiting a market, eating a dish in a restaurant. And the show is actually progressing in the story as well

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Sorry but you seem to be complaining about world building of a fantasy epic 😁

but I understand to be honest many people have a low attention span this isn't an attack or insult it's just kind of the truth of these days.
@epyon4light Where is the worldbuilding in Frieren, I don't see it.
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Khushal_v said:
I don't know why no one talks about it but I think the biggest problem with frieren is the repitative nature of show which is as follows -

Frieren and group has some task
Frieren remember how she also did the same task with himmel 100 years ago

I don't dislike episodic show much but if there is episodic show which uses same formula every single episode it gets boring ( however frieren is saved due to great music and animation), i think an episodic show should at least have 3 -4 different formulas and can repeat them

However the current arc is actually great and is not the feeling the same, i hope ready of show us line thts too

edit: seems like frieren fans are delusional and can't take any criticism at all

Me personally i don't find it repetitive at all, a little formulatic with the SOL eps, yes, which i get can feel repetitive to some, but for me Frieren is doing a great job being able to have it's formula while not making it feel exactly the same every ep, having eps that break away from the formular scattered inbetween helps too

I'd say with how Frieren's formula is layed out, it's closer to something like Demon Slayer than say City Hunter, the latter of which i did find extreamly repetitive
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I agree with you, Frieren is as overrated as FMAB. The show itself is not bad, but definitely not a masterpiece. Repetitive formula, kinda boring characters and nothing more than the same
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I would also like to express the problems that I see on this anime, but dealing with the fans that can't take any criticism is so tiring.
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@Saimatsu_Fan You think flashbacks with himmel got overused? You wouldn't believe what happened in the last chapters in the manga XD

probably not good lol
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The_Keyman-1 said:
Instead of replying to the comments OP really edited their comment and said that the fanbase is delusional after getting owned by them lol.

I really like how whenever a MAL user started to lose an arguement they call others delusional to deal with the situation.

i don't have time to reply to every single one just try to count how many are there

and I am calling some fans delusional because they think every show is just as repetitive, frieren clearly uses the flashback way more than needed and lost the impact of flashbacks because of how many times they used it but these delusional fans just can't accept and funnily enough most of these critisize villian of the week format

they think frieren is a perfect show with no problem when it is far from that
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I would also like to express the problems that I see on this anime, but dealing with the fans that can't take any criticism is so tiring.

yeah dude i realised how big of a mistake I made giving my opinion in front of these fans who think the show is perfect and has no problems
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The_Keyman-1 said:
Instead of replying to the comments OP really edited their comment and said that the fanbase is delusional after getting owned by them lol.

I really like how whenever a MAL user started to lose an arguement they call others delusional to deal with the situation.

i don't have time to reply to every single one just try to count how many are there

and I am calling some fans delusional because they think every show is just as repetitive, frieren clearly uses the flashback way more than needed and lost the impact of flashbacks because of how many times they used it but these delusional fans just can't accept and funnily enough most of these critisize villian of the week format

they think frieren is a perfect show with no problem when it is far from that
@Khushal_v Aside from how you literally just proved that you believe if someone doesn't agree with you is delusional and you opinion is fact unlike their, where are you getting the “criticise villian of the week formula”? Literally only one guy in the whole thread mentioned it and he made it up himself. I dont think that frieren is a perfect show, it has problems, you just cant accept that there is a chance of your opinion not being factual and people seeing things differently than you like not thinking flashbacks are not used properly. You could have just said that yeah, i dont like the way flashbacks are used, they feel repetitive, but you didnt do that, you literally take it as a fact and everyone who disagrees is wrong and delusional. So who is the delusional here
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Hi guys, especially the fans of Frieren(like me!!!). I have a really good solution for not seeing any BS post in the thread. I just ignore their accounts to not have a bad day of reading their very brainy opinions(though it doesn't even make any sense, it's very challenging for my brain cells to understand them). This really helped me knowing that it's not really worth our time reading their very nice opinions and comments.
Let's just enjoy our journey with Frieren and it's FRIEREN FRIDAY!!!!! YEY!!!
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There is a circle, and there is a spiral. The show certainly goes somewhere and it doesn't stay at one place.
It goes as it goes. It doesn't need to be faster or more eventful. It is harmonic as it is.
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I can't even tell if this thread is serious or not.
You can at least be for sure that Jeevasnt is dedicated at having dogwater takes.
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