Monogatari Series: Second Season
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| peak i remember when i watched this episode and just sat in my chair for like 10 minutes after, completely silent and in awe of what i just saw the whole hitagi end arc, and especially the ending to this episode, is one of the most jaw-dropping, heart-wrenching things i've ever seen, truly peak fiction |
"Leonardo... it wasn't, by any means, only your eyes that we welcomed into Libra." - Klaus von Reinherz |
| Once again, very well done. Another 8/10 for the monogatari series. I'm just wondering if it truly would have a significant effect if I watched this in the chronological order, or at least the semi-chronological order. Meaning, watching certain parts of Owarimonogatari before certain parts of this Second Season. Because Ougi clearly had a major hand to play in this whole ordeal. While the airing order certainly isn't chronological, perhaps they thought it be interesting to present a story, then fill in the holes and flesh it out even more later on. Whatever the case is, I'm still going to stick to the airing order for now, as it is how probably most people watched this. If I ever go for a second viewing, I'll definitely try it chronologically. So while ideally next should be Owarimonogatari while these events are still fresh in the mind, Tsukimonogatari is next so that's the one I'll be watching. It's only 4 episodes after all. As for Hanamonogatari, I'll make an exception for that one. I will actually leave that until the very end. edit: fck it, nevermind, I need answers. Diving straight into Owarimonogatari |
BetaMaleUltraApr 14, 2022 1:34 PM
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| That was an amazing episode. Beyond my expectations really. That talk by Kaiki to Nadeko was great. It was really sad to see what happened to Kaiki at the end. I thought he was evil, but he wasn't. He wasn't good, but he wasn't evil. He was just Kaiki. Can't believe they killed him off at the end like that... Rest in peace, Kaiki. I will actually miss you. You were a great protagonist for this last arc. Monogatari Series Second Season was really good. It had its ups and downs, but I liked Hanekawa's arc. Maybe I love this one. |
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First off, a bunch of screenshots from previous episodes, was too enthralled to discuss between episodes. Some symbolism I bring up as well but stuff I assume most would have also realized anyway.  Beautiful finale which I honestly won't be fully going into on why it worked so well for me, but, where Nekomonogatari: Shiro spoke to me deeply with its finale, relating to a problem I was dealing with in the past, on the opposite side of things (with Shiro being at the beginning of the season, relating to a problem I had in the past, Koi is at the end, yet) Koimonogatari related to a problem I'm dealing with right now, which has been on my mind for a while, a problem which has been building up but has particularly been on my mind recently, even talking about it with some people, but yet to know how to feel on how I could conclude it. First relationship issues, if I were to quickly summarise the sort of issue it is. This episode felt like a clarity of sorts, with Kaiki really feeling like a teacher. As I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't really be going to into this episode as it did strike a very personal, relatable sort of deal with the stuff with Sengoku, but, yeah, found its conclusion beautiful, teared up a bit from Kaiki's whole speech. Both laughed a lot and felt satisfied when he lied his way out of things with Araragi. Kaiki made for an amazing protagonist this arc. It's funny, as much as I love Araragi as a character, the arcs which I've really related to have both been ones with separate protagonists. Previous arc is still the one I cried the most in, however, don't get me wrong. I miss Hachikuji. Did I already say in a previous discussion how crazy I found it to hear Kaiki singing in the opening? I don't think I did! What a cool singing voice, haha. I was thinking the other day, 'I hope sometime Araragi has his own opening.' If it's a duet with Senjougahara like this, that works! Overall, best season, by far. One of the closest works I've seen to a ten. Loved it.  I wonder too... |
Following Kaiki's conversations with Senjougahara, Hanekawa, Yotsugi as well as Sengoku, all really fun, entertaining, interesting, introspective, honestly, a whole lot, this arc really shifted my opinion on the character, he went from a very fun presence to one of my favourites. |
Here is my ranking of arcs Mayoi snails<Shinobu times <Tsubasa tiger<Nadoka Medusa<Hitagi end |
nishant0Oct 29, 2022 1:17 PM
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| By far best season I've watched so far. |
| Rough Notes of 2013: |
| Nah, no way Kaiki's going out just like that. Still holding onto his advice of not trusting everything he says. Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that? Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete. |
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Reply to RioFS
Nah, no way Kaiki's going out just like that. Still holding onto his advice of not trusting everything he says.
Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that?
Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete.
Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that?
Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete.
RioFS said: That was just Nadeko's delusion/fantasy of what she'd be able to achieve. Also, Kaiki's ending is even more insane when you consider that Hanamonogatari came out first in Light Novel orderNah, no way Kaiki's going out just like that. Still holding onto his advice of not trusting everything he says. Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that? Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete. |
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Reply to Epiccgaymer
RioFS said:
Nah, no way Kaiki's going out just like that. Still holding onto his advice of not trusting everything he says.
Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that?
Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete.
That was just Nadeko's delusion/fantasy of what she'd be able to achieve. Also, Kaiki's ending is even more insane when you consider that Hanamonogatari came out first in Light Novel orderNah, no way Kaiki's going out just like that. Still holding onto his advice of not trusting everything he says.
Also, what's with that happy(not for Kaiki) ending? I clearly remember being teased a boss battle against Sengoku. Tf happened to that?
Anyways, best season so far. Dunno how it took me a year to complete.
| @Epiccgaymer Good to know. I can stop holding my breath then. No surprise for the LN readers then if they already knew Kaiki's fate but imagine the anime-onlies reaction considering Hanamono just released the year after. |
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| Well here we are at the end at long last, it nearly took me two months (off by one day lol) but I made it, and I think it’s safe to say this last arc is the best one of the season, and that’s mainly due to Kaiki. Once again, the arc’s titular character wasn’t actually the focus of the arc, this time it was Senjougahara, but it was instead Kaiki, and I couldn’t be happier about this because he not only made this arc for me, he’s also one of the biggest reasons I loved the Karen Bee arc. Being along for the ride with detective Kaiki was a lot of fun, it’s wild how much of this arc was simply talking too but it was so engaging. And Kaiki had an odd chemistry with Senjougahara, from that very first meeting at the airport and all of their phone calls, it felt like each one was a meeting of the minds but Kaiki always had a 1-up lol. And this final episode itself man, after all the prep it turned out Nadeko never trusted Kaiki to begin with, so of course the plan failed, but honestly I don’t think the car crash story was ever that good to begin with lol. Despite this, Kaiki managed to talk Nadeko down with some very inspiring stuff, all while being strangled by snakes and kicked by Nadeko, that man is a GOAT among GOATs. And he did this by finally using what he found in the closet, I was ready for something messed up but no, it was actually her true dream of becoming a mangaka, and boy Nadeko’s reaction was priceless lol. And then the unthinkable happened, Kaiki actually managed to revert Nadako back to being a human, I was thinking after she had become that far gone there was no going back but he saved not only her, but Araragi and Senjougahara as well, I guess that final boss battle that was teased at the end of Nadeko’s arc didn’t happen after all lol. And then comes Araragi, almost like a side character in Kaiki’s story, so that makes two arcs in this season that didn’t even really have him in it lol. And just when you thought the crazy son of a bitch made it out alive, they ended up calling back to whoever was stalking Kaiki in an earlier episode, which looks like it ended up killing him, and of course that connects to Ougi somehow, let’s just say I’m not too fond of her for taking a real one from us lol. But man, RIP Kaiki, if this really is the end for him. He’s truly one of my favorite Monogatari characters, if not my favorite, he single-handedly raised my score of this season from an 8 to a 9. And with that, I am now done with Second Season, aka the third season of Monogatari, while it took me a while to get through it I did really enjoy each and every arc from this season, this is also despite some of the bad hairstyle changes lol. If I had to rank the arcs, it would probably go Hitagi End, Mayoi Jiangshi/Nadeko Medusa (both tied), Tsubasa Tiger/Shinobu Time (also tied lol), really there wasn’t a dull moment, despite this ranking I liked them all with Hitagi End being my clear favorite, of course I’m mad Kaiki died (if he’s actually dead) but still lol, can’t deny how good it was. And of course I liked all the OPs and EDs, my favorite of the OPs is probably the final one and my favorite ED is ED2, but they once again made some bangers, if there’s one thing Monogatari hasn’t missed it’s the music. But from here I guess I have that Kanbaru arc next and then I’m not sure, excited to get to some of the later stuff tho because this is a series that I started back in 2019 so I’ve always been interested in where it goes, it just took me this long to come back lol. |
TheColonel76Mar 18, 3:13 PM
| Insane character development this whole season man monogatari has one of the best side casts in fiction. Kaiki is just straight up one of my favorite side characters now his conclusion is eh but I heard "Ougi" thats all I need to know cause I alr know she has a season for her. About Hitagi tho her development was nice, Most times she wouldn't listen and just be mean and all that but with Kaiki I feel like she just became such a better character. I ain't forget Sengoku either her arc was so fun to watch I had so much enjoyment and she's definitely now one of my favorite antagonist... We also learned more about Shinobus past which was needed it was ight felt a little boring but im happy we learned more about her. The only complaint I have is the arc where they go into the future or something that was a little boring but I did like how Araragi and Shinobu spent way more time together even with this season to. |
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| OMG , I did not expect this ending . I used to hate Kaiki but I feel sad about him . Also I can't understand Ougi's plans . Anyways that season was a roller coaster , can't wait for more!! |
| This arc was so great, and hell, this season unsurprisingly was fantastic in the rewatch. Kaiki's character is something else in Koimonogatari. |
| Fairly enjoyable season of Monogatari Series, though I gotta say it started losing steam right after its second arc (Mayoi Jiangshi/Kabukimonogatari). Story development in Nadeko Medusa was particularly disappointing, Shinobu Time ended up being mostly about Mayoi's character with Shinobu being relegated to the background and Final Hitagi was only interesting because of Kaiki taking the MC role. 7,5/10 -> 7/10 - Now onto Tsukimonogatari because I'm dumb and watched Hanamonogatari before concluding Second Season. |
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