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Jan 9, 2023 6:38 AM
#251
Wow after watching the 1st season back then it's refreshing to see it in a different way especially Orange's CGI that never disappoint, it looks better than the 90s version so far imo |
Jan 9, 2023 6:41 AM
#252
Geeljire said: I haven't seen original but this one feels like a remake from episode 1 because they showed vash and knife's backstory.I haven't seen it, can any of you let me know if it's a spin off or a sequel, or a reboot. I've seen Trigun and liked it but idk if this one will be worth it. |
Jan 9, 2023 7:08 AM
#253
Anyone who thinks the CGI here is bad must be clouded by bias and nostalgia, or both. That kind of mindset is kind of pitiful, as the animation here is very lively and the action scenes are amazingly choreographed. I think we can safely ignore all the naysayers' opinions, since they don't actually love animation; they only love 2D art, and are too attached to the source material to give anything a chance, and that's a shame. Great start to the series, and I can't wait for more! |
Jan 9, 2023 7:11 AM
#254
positiv2 said: This looks absolutely horrid. The over-exaggerated movement on the characters is jarring, and the general quality of the models is just bad. Awful start. MeanEYE said: I'm starting to believe that you people are either blind or just extremely and willingly ignorant, because I have no idea how anybody can come on this website and objectively say that the CG in this is even remotely bad....You all make me sick lolGave it a proper chance but I can't get use to this CGI nonsense. It's basically an attempt to make it look like hand drawn animation so they don't have to pay attention to details and do a proper CGI but at the same time they don't want to invest effort or hire good artists to animate things properly. Summed up it's money-saving lazy, worst kind of ineptitude. Story might be even good, in fact if the are following manga properly it most likely is, but "art" style is too much for me. I've seen stop motion movies with more expression and emotion in their characters. Am sure this is going to be yet another 10/10 MAL rated reinterpretation of old show as those things always end up highly rated even though quality has dropped considerably in recent years. Simply put am dropping it after first episode and pretending it never happened. In fact, I'll go rewatch original again. To all of you who will watch this until the end, good luck. But anyway, I'm coming for everyone who says nonsense like you two about the CGI because this was fucking amazing.....Studio Orange are known for CGI and somehow they have perfected it and given us bangers after bangers with it, and Trigun is definitely apart of that list now Mod Edit: edited quoted post |
KayKimiiJan 13, 2023 7:02 PM
Jan 9, 2023 7:23 AM
#255
Tokoya said: Preach, brother. People with this opinion should just go back and watch the old stuff, and never comment on anything new, as they're just holding anime back from evolving, as all things should.positiv2 said: This looks absolutely horrid. The over-exaggerated movement on the characters is jarring, and the general quality of the models is just bad. Awful start. MeanEYE said: I'm starting to believe that you people are either blind or just extremely and willingly ignorant, because I have no idea how anybody can come on this website and objectively say that the CG in this is even remotely bad....You all make me sick lolGave it a proper chance but I can't get use to this CGI nonsense. It's basically an attempt to make it look like hand drawn animation so they don't have to pay attention to details and do a proper CGI but at the same time they don't want to invest effort or hire good artists to animate things properly. Summed up it's money-saving lazy, worst kind of ineptitude. Story might be even good, in fact if the are following manga properly it most likely is, but "art" style is too much for me. I've seen stop motion movies with more expression and emotion in their characters. Am sure this is going to be yet another 10/10 MAL rated reinterpretation of old show as those things always end up highly rated even though quality has dropped considerably in recent years. Simply put am dropping it after first episode and pretending it never happened. In fact, I'll go rewatch original again. To all of you who will watch this until the end, good luck. But anyway, I'm coming for everyone who says nonsense like you two about the CGI because this was fucking amazing.....Studio Orange are known for CGI and somehow they have perfected it and given us bangers after bangers with it, and Trigun is definitely apart of that list now Mod Edit: edited quoted post |
KayKimiiJan 13, 2023 7:03 PM
Jan 9, 2023 7:24 AM
#256
Kayle_x_Morgana said: this is obviously bait guys... lolthis is terrible lol. what are people talking about. his face is hideous looking. you guys on copium? borderline ex arms |
Jan 9, 2023 7:30 AM
#257
Tokoya said: Objectively say? Go take a look at cinematic for Warcraft 3 which was released 20+ years ago or Karas which was released in 2006 and it both look better than this. This looks like ex-arm with a better shading and more facial expressions but it's all nicely hidden with exaggerated camera movement and numerous cuts. Also Studio Orange draws faces sometimes in 2D and combines them with 3D to make it look better, which it does but all the other animations are unnatural. You can say you like it but it's not good CGI.positiv2 said: This looks absolutely horrid. The over-exaggerated movement on the characters is jarring, and the general quality of the models is just bad. Awful start. MeanEYE said: I'm starting to believe that you people are either blind or just extremely and willingly ignorant, because I have no idea how anybody can come on this website and objectively say that the CG in this is even remotely bad....You all make me sick lolGave it a proper chance but I can't get use to this CGI nonsense. It's basically an attempt to make it look like hand drawn animation so they don't have to pay attention to details and do a proper CGI but at the same time they don't want to invest effort or hire good artists to animate things properly. Summed up it's money-saving lazy, worst kind of ineptitude. Story might be even good, in fact if the are following manga properly it most likely is, but "art" style is too much for me. I've seen stop motion movies with more expression and emotion in their characters. Am sure this is going to be yet another 10/10 MAL rated reinterpretation of old show as those things always end up highly rated even though quality has dropped considerably in recent years. Simply put am dropping it after first episode and pretending it never happened. In fact, I'll go rewatch original again. To all of you who will watch this until the end, good luck. But anyway, I'm coming for everyone who says nonsense like you two about the CGI because this was fucking amazing.....Studio Orange are known for CGI and somehow they have perfected it and given us bangers after bangers with it, and Trigun is definitely apart of that list now Am not even going to mention how they changed characters just because. If they came up with their own IP sure thing, do whatever you want. But adapting existing material and then changing it for the sake of change is annoying no matter how you look at it. In the end you are free to like whatever you want and get sick by whatever you want, but that doesn't change the facts. Mod Edit: edited quoted post |
KayKimiiJan 13, 2023 7:04 PM
Jan 9, 2023 7:31 AM
#258
Jan 9, 2023 7:55 AM
#259
MeanEYE said: From you said "This looks like Ex Arm" everything else that you said is now just the words of a brain dead individual....I'm not gonna waste my time with this nonsense because you'd have to LITERALLY be stupid as hell to make a comparison like that Tokoya said: Objectively say? Go take a look at cinematic for Warcraft 3 which was released 20+ years ago or Karas which was released in 2006 and it both look better than this. This looks like ex-arm with a better shading and more facial expressions but it's all nicely hidden with exaggerated camera movement and numerous cuts. Also Studio Orange draws faces sometimes in 2D and combines them with 3D to make it look better, which it does but all the other animations are unnatural. You can say you like it but it's not good CGI.positiv2 said: This looks absolutely horrid. The over-exaggerated movement on the characters is jarring, and the general quality of the models is just bad. Awful start. MeanEYE said: Gave it a proper chance but I can't get use to this CGI nonsense. It's basically an attempt to make it look like hand drawn animation so they don't have to pay attention to details and do a proper CGI but at the same time they don't want to invest effort or hire good artists to animate things properly. Summed up it's money-saving lazy, worst kind of ineptitude. Story might be even good, in fact if the are following manga properly it most likely is, but "art" style is too much for me. I've seen stop motion movies with more expression and emotion in their characters. Am sure this is going to be yet another 10/10 MAL rated reinterpretation of old show as those things always end up highly rated even though quality has dropped considerably in recent years. Simply put am dropping it after first episode and pretending it never happened. In fact, I'll go rewatch original again. To all of you who will watch this until the end, good luck. But anyway, I'm coming for everyone who says nonsense like you two about the CGI because this was fucking amazing.....Studio Orange are known for CGI and somehow they have perfected it and given us bangers after bangers with it, and Trigun is definitely apart of that list now Am not even going to mention how they changed characters just because. If they came up with their own IP sure thing, do whatever you want. But adapting existing material and then changing it for the sake of change is annoying no matter how you look at it. In the end you are free to like whatever you want and get sick by whatever you want, but that doesn't change the facts. You gotta be crazy lol Mod Edit: edited quoted post |
KayKimiiJan 13, 2023 7:05 PM
Jan 9, 2023 9:10 AM
#260
davidyodo24 said: no? compare his face to the OG anime. night and dayKayle_x_Morgana said: this is obviously bait guys... lolthis is terrible lol. what are people talking about. his face is hideous looking. you guys on copium? borderline ex arms |
Jan 9, 2023 9:34 AM
#261
no soy fan de la franquicia pero me gusto este 1er episodio, nada del otro mundo pero supongon que la pase mejor que los fanaticos nostalgicos que creo que no estan muy felices. |
Jan 9, 2023 9:46 AM
#262
Tokoya said: Thanks for the insults. Goes to show lack of maturity and common courtesy. Please stop "wasting your time". I'd be more than grateful.MeanEYE said: From you said "This looks like Ex Arm" everything else that you said is now just the words of a brain dead individual....I'm not gonna waste my time with this nonsense because you'd have to LITERALLY be stupid as hell to make a comparison like that Tokoya said: positiv2 said: This looks absolutely horrid. The over-exaggerated movement on the characters is jarring, and the general quality of the models is just bad. Awful start. MeanEYE said: I'm starting to believe that you people are either blind or just extremely and willingly ignorant, because I have no idea how anybody can come on this website and objectively say that the CG in this is even remotely bad....You all make me sick lolGave it a proper chance but I can't get use to this CGI nonsense. It's basically an attempt to make it look like hand drawn animation so they don't have to pay attention to details and do a proper CGI but at the same time they don't want to invest effort or hire good artists to animate things properly. Summed up it's money-saving lazy, worst kind of ineptitude. Story might be even good, in fact if the are following manga properly it most likely is, but "art" style is too much for me. I've seen stop motion movies with more expression and emotion in their characters. Am sure this is going to be yet another 10/10 MAL rated reinterpretation of old show as those things always end up highly rated even though quality has dropped considerably in recent years. Simply put am dropping it after first episode and pretending it never happened. In fact, I'll go rewatch original again. To all of you who will watch this until the end, good luck. But anyway, I'm coming for everyone who says nonsense like you two about the CGI because this was fucking amazing.....Studio Orange are known for CGI and somehow they have perfected it and given us bangers after bangers with it, and Trigun is definitely apart of that list now Am not even going to mention how they changed characters just because. If they came up with their own IP sure thing, do whatever you want. But adapting existing material and then changing it for the sake of change is annoying no matter how you look at it. In the end you are free to like whatever you want and get sick by whatever you want, but that doesn't change the facts. You gotta be crazy lol Mod Edit: edited quoted post |
KayKimiiJan 13, 2023 7:05 PM
Jan 9, 2023 10:02 AM
#263
Jan 9, 2023 10:50 AM
#264
Wow, I didn‘t know if I will like the cgi they use, but to my suprise it isn‘t actually that bad. I kinda like the new style they choose. Still missing the old vibe from the 98 anime tho. |
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Jan 9, 2023 11:33 AM
#265
KawasakiNinja0 said: Yeah I loved pretty much everything except the milly swap - now we have an old drunk man. Wolfwood about to get smitten over an alcoholic lol.while people are crying over (masterpiece) cgi, I'm crying because no milly :( |
Jan 9, 2023 1:20 PM
#266
Nah.. I might be biased towards the original but this new one is already quite flawed imho... P.S. Roberto De Niro? Roberto fckn De Niro? P.P.S. Where is kuroneko-sama? Did I miss her somehow or wasn't included? |
Jan 9, 2023 3:01 PM
#267
Intriguing story - they seem to go more in the past and a bit more personal with Vash for the very start unlike in the first few eps of the original anime. Like that quite a bit. CGI looked pretty good too! Orange is probably the only studio that could do a great cgi tv show! Let's hope it stays consistently good throughout the season 😬 Voice actors did a good job - Vash feels like I imagined he would be here, haha! The rookie + body guard are a great mixed together with the Typhoon :D Let's see what's next |
Jan 9, 2023 3:06 PM
#268
Man I REALLY liked this 1st episode, visually it's pretty damn good (The CGI is giving me big Guilty Gear Vibes, especially in motion) & the episode had a good pace to it fun stuff |
Jan 9, 2023 3:06 PM
#269
Man I REALLY liked this 1st episode, visually it's pretty damn good (The CGI is giving me big Guilty Gear Vibes, especially in motion) & the episode had a good pace to it fun stuff |
Jan 9, 2023 4:18 PM
#270
I hated everything about this. I can't believe it's getting such decent ratings. The art style is bad, the character designs are bad, removing Millie is decline, and the animation is as choppy as it gets. It's barely a step above stop motion animation. The only thing in the entire anime that looked good to me was the drawing of Vash on the wanted poster that the military guys had. |
Jan 9, 2023 5:27 PM
#272
The "Nier Automata" chapter was much worse than Trigun's chapter and the CGI of here will not be like Fate or CSM but at least it does not seem like a leggo. |
Jan 9, 2023 6:15 PM
#273
Interesting space ship design to create an escape pod that can only be launched outside of the pod. XD |
Jan 10, 2023 12:03 AM
#274
I'm curious to see where this very different interpretation of the story goes. |
Jan 10, 2023 12:52 AM
#275
So far, I love the action and the va for Vash. Studio orange is amazing and their models/ animations are great. I dislike Meryl's redesign the most, she's suppose to be a short women but she has such a child like build... it feels so disappointing? I don't know why it bothers me so much but otherwise I'm willing to be a bit optimistic and hope for the best. Also miss my girl Milly </3 |
Jan 10, 2023 4:57 AM
#277
This was... strange. Doesn't feel like Trigun at all, the pacing is kinda off, and Vash feels very shallow atm, but we'll see how it goes. Oh, Vash's va is also Majima's va so I expect some earcandy from him, the role should allow for it. |
ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
Jan 10, 2023 5:20 AM
#278
Studio orange did not disappoint, felt a bit weird watching this new adaptation and looking back to the first ep of the original definitely didn't have the same "magic" as the 98 but still looking forward for what this new season has instore. Dub waiting room |
Jan 10, 2023 6:35 AM
#279
I missed Vash so much💜 Trigun is one of my favorite works and I was looking forward to seeing this new adaptation. I love the original design of the work, and I thought that I would not like this change, but I loved it. I really like the new character design. Vash is even hotter |
Jan 10, 2023 7:51 AM
#280
KANLen09 said: Trigun: Stampede is its answer to FMA: Brotherhood: giving its original series a retelling, but in well-known 3DCG studio Orange's CG format that looks almost like a Disney film. incredibly obvious bait |
Jan 10, 2023 7:59 AM
#281
Even though there's no mystery like the previous series and of course no Millie, but I really love this new series. An alternative take but same old comedy. The animation is awesome! |
Jan 10, 2023 11:04 AM
#282
It feels very Trigun to me... no idea why other ppl say it doesn't |
Jan 10, 2023 11:55 AM
#284
very good animation for a CGI! |
Jan 10, 2023 12:36 PM
#285
First of all to get things out of the way the CGI animation is amazing. Its probably the best CG I've seen in anime even better than studio oranges previous works despite the more detailed character models. However I'm not sure if I'm a massive fan of the new story their setting up. it's too early to say for sure but it seems to be leaning towards a more serialised and less episodic story. Which isn't inheritently bad in itself but I feel as though they're changing the tone of the anime to accommodate it. Much of the more comedic elements have been sadly toned down to create a more epic space opera feel. Meryl is no longer a insurance agent and thus the incredibly funny conciet of both being an insurance agent in a post apolypyic sci fi western and having to create an insurance policy for just some guy is lost. Furthermore I think the exposition was just bad. "hey what's this"..."Well this is X" is just a sloppy way to handle sci fi exposition especially front loaded into a first episode like this. I do think the character writing and action made up for it, it's just a pretty glaring writing flaw. Especially with how much of the over arching original series mystery is revealed in such a sloppy way. And to be even more negative the new character really rubs me the wrong way. I'm not opposed to new characters being added to an older series (of he's from the manga sue me I've only watched the madhouse original) but the way he and Meryl interact just annoys me. Meryl was such an independent and proactive character in the original but here she's forced to act as a "rookie" compared to some alcoholic asshole. I'm sure his arc will be about coming to respect her but why is that nessacary when the original character dynamics were so much better. Man I miss Milly :( overall like a 7/10 lol. Pretty good start with some issues that need to be ironed out |
Jan 10, 2023 2:14 PM
#286
Animation is pretty bad and art style is very different from original Trigun. Vash's new voice doesn't fit the character. Sounds completely mismatched to me. Perhaps story will be better later on, but this episode doesn't leave a good impression. |
Jan 10, 2023 5:16 PM
#289
I'm sure if this was standalone for someone new getting into the very concept of Trigun, they would enjoy Trigun Stampede. I tried my very best to really get on board with the direction of Trigun Stampede, but it's missing a lot of things that made the original Trigun so special to me. They moved too fast in the original episode, acting as if we didn't show Vash do some insane stunt immediately, the show would get canned. There's no delayed gratitude for characters eventually finding out that this guy really is the Humanoid Typhoon. All the characters are on the same page as soon as the first episode ends. A huge character plot for Vash was how he continued to serve people regardless how they felt about the Humanoid Typhoon, however that is completely jumped when everyday normal civilians just casually get along with him as they do in this. There was a catharsis when people found out that someone deemed to have done so many terrible acts to have a 6,000,000 bounty on his head just happens to be a person with a heart for people. Nope, in Stampede, there's none of that available. All the civilians already know the Humanoid Typhoon is secretly a pretty chill guy. There's no tension between Vash and everyday people. His pacifism is poorly portrayed--the entirety of Trigun is leveraged off of Vash's pacifistic idealism in a world where cold truth hardships are the norm. However, he's not being forced to put his pacifism on the line. His good deeds are just stated and observed by other characters, not shown through actions done. Meryl just states "He's trying to keep everyone safe" for a sentence and lets the audience assume that's what he's doing. The music also throws me off as well. The opening theme does NOT capture the spirit of Trigun, nor does the over-produced and mixed orchestral soundtrack. The rustic, almost indie 'low budget' OST of the original captured the down-to-earth, survival through every day life feel where everyone doesn't have much but makes the most of it. The new OST makes me want to go on an adventure without a care in the world, which does not reflect the world of Trigun at all. Millie got tossed for no good reason. I don't know why, she's just as iconic to Trigun as everyone every other character. I'm not a stickler about CGI, it's done fantastically well here. I was excited that Trigun was being done in 3D, actually. All I can say is that there is a lack of respect for the intellectual property Orange has their hands on and a lack of maturity in the directors and writers in this production. I know it's a reboot of the series rather than a remake, and I can't expect nor do I want a carbon-copy adaptation, but it feels like they missed all the details that made Trigun feel like Trigun. Perhaps the directors have something else in mind. Maybe my expectations are getting in the way, and the directors just want to take the concept of Trigun and use it to tell a whole different story and lesson to what the original Trigun told. We still have a whole season to pull through, let's hope what we have in store can be enjoyable as it is even if it is different. |
Jan 10, 2023 8:04 PM
#291
Anime fans are pathetic, complaining about CGI just because it's CGI even tho it's actually great. |
Jan 11, 2023 12:09 AM
#293
I loved the original but I have to say this looks great. I like the call back to the original hair style when Vash was hanging upside down but I like the new hairstyle way better. So far I like this version of Meryl opposed to the original. It took me a while to warm up to the original Meryl, but I did eventually like her. I can’t wait for Wolfwood though. Also, I will miss Milly, she was dopey but very sweet and a badass at times. Another thing I like is how the first episode shows Rem and Knives immediately. Welcome back Vash!! |
Jan 11, 2023 2:32 AM
#294
Ass cheeks booty clappin shit. |
Jan 11, 2023 3:02 AM
#295
Animation is absolutly incredible but the show just feels so pointless its hard to really get into it at the moment, I dont know its hard to vibe with a reboot of Trigun especially when theres a whole manga that never got adapted and they are leaving out a central character. I'm gonna try and give it a chance as its own thing but theres only so much mileage to get out of it when I've already experienced this world and characters all before no matter how much they slightly change stuff, its all gonna still seem familiar. |
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Jan 11, 2023 6:35 AM
#296
Farabeuf said: Loved Trigun back in the day and wasn't expecting much, but damn....That looked gorgeous. Amazing modern animation. Didn't like Vash's design too much though but it's a small thing. Your average MAL'er ca.2023 is gonna hate this though. what'd you think about the characterization of Vash so far? @JetAway To be honest it's pretty thin. But it's just one episode. It took dozens of episodes in the original before we got a good take on Vash. |
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Jan 11, 2023 10:42 AM
#297
I can't believe how gorgeous the CG looks! The characters move so fluidly and are just as expressive as 2D characters, sometimes even more so! I'm really sad that anime fans are so against CG in general that they can't look at something objectively and see when it's actually done right. |
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Jan 11, 2023 4:25 PM
#298
Seems like it’s going to be good. I’d rather it be just regular animation, but this cgi is so good that I’ve got no complaints. |
Jan 11, 2023 6:12 PM
#300
As a fan of the original Trigun, it's sad that many anime fans are stuck in 2008 and can't look past their anti-cgi bias for this reboot. The models are a little wonky at times, but the first episode makes up for this in fluidity of movement and overall shot composition. This CGI is super well-done. CGI haters should take a moment to watch Houseki no Kuni and Promare to realize CGI isn't bad by default anymore. Super solid first episode, looking forward to the rest of this series!! Orange will knock it out of the park if they keep up this quality! |
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