An amazing show that’s easily misunderstood.

LordKirkis said:


Shaddap and go watch Spy X Family you nut. I'm banning you from replying here until you do so.

Khalnayak2002 said:


how the hell Spy x Family came between this discussion?

LordKirkis said:


I peeped your profile a bit for ammo. And just now I saw you're a One Piece manga enjoyer. Which is fine, I wont judge but I will use it as ammo now xD

Khalnayak2002 said:


first Spy x Family and now One Piece , just what the hell are trying to say

LordKirkis said:


I am being dismissive of your assessment of DitF. I am also saying Spy X Family is a near masterpiece as far as comedy and animation quality goes. And lastly I am saying One Piece is very good ammo.

LordKirkis said:
Darling in the Franxx is an amazing show, but you likely missed the point. Darling in the Franxx gets flak and a lower score because many can't appreciate what's actually being presented to them. A lot of the shows symbolism and expressions are lost on them primarily because they come into the show expecting your typical B-Rate action-filled shounen. Darling in the Franxx is a lot greater than that considering the sum of its parts. There are layers to Darling in the Franxx that needs to be explored.

On the surface Darling in the Franxx features child drama and mech fights blended in to a balance. In the span of 24 episodes viewers can appreciate a medley of interesting scenarios; child drama, mech battles, spaceship battles, aliens, beach episodes, innuendos, and purposeful plot/character revelations. This is all fantastic sure, but the show truly soars when all of these things are framed by its primary themes/ideas and then encapsulated in the shows primary focus; the characters Hiro & Zero Two. Through these two characters, and their stories everything is framed to greater detail and perspective. Therein lies the genius and enjoyment of Darling in the Franxx as a whole.

Its a bummer when I see folks complaining about the surface level things in the show while completely overlooking much of its carefully crafted details and ideas. Still its to be expected... not everyone is going to understand things or connect to the degree the showrunners and artist hope viewers do.

Speaking of which the ending.. it isn't sad or bad at all; you simply missed the point. Zero Two wanted one thing more than anything in her life, and that was to be with Hiro which she was granted for all eternity, and even past life after death. Hell she even gets to be human and have babies with her love eternal, Hiro. If that's not a good ending to you then I don't know how else to explain it.

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Some folks wanted some specific reasons why I loved this show... so here it is.

To give specifics about things I loved about the show...

-Watching Hiro and Zero Two finally find each other and spend precious time together was particularly heartwarming to me, because I really believe these characters went through a lot of unwarranted hell, particularly Zero Two who was as pure and in need of a lot of love as any princess character.

-The OST was absolutely fantastic as were the visual, I think most can agree here. "Hitori" played during the intro to the pictures book was sung by the voice actor of Zero Two. How amazing is that? And what beautiful song and vocal work it is!

-I love some of the inspirations from classics this show employs, Neon Genesis Evangelion was obvious despite me not seeing it yet, but also classics like Beauty & the Beast. (picture book)

-Zero Two and her first beautiful thing being the picture book, a book that itself is highly detailed and intriguing to look at and forebodes of dark times to inevitably come. The "dark times" did indeed come and most people hated it. In truth though they did not come to pass entirely because in actuality Zero Two and Hiro did manage to change their destiny and live happily ever after despite the picture books dark foreboding. This was actually represented by the last picture which was badly drawn by Hiro (he just isn't a great an artist as Zero Two unfortunately :) ).

-I loved the representation of the mythical creature the Jian and how that mythical creature related to the characters and their life as Franxx pilots. Its relevance made a lot of sense thematically and was very endearing.

-Besides the Jian there is a lot of other symbolic things to pick out that relates to the characters and the plot that follows;

-"Strelizia in reference to the flower Bird of Paradise. The flower symbolizes freedom, joy, and paradise. It also represents a good perspective of life."

-The design of the True Apus, its crossing to the far reaches of space and what that meant was profound because it meant a variety of things; a lot of it depressingly sad, a lot of it being quite beautiful.. to the point of confusion. You are basically left wondering weather to root for them or to cry for them. One thing is for sure; Hiro and Zero Two were very certain of what they needed to do and that gave me plenty of reassurance. In the end I was happy about how strongly they loved each other, their friends and the universe as a whole which they did manage to save.

-I found the innocence, love, pain, and struggle the characters experienced very impactful... particularly Zero Two, and Hiro's who's pain resonated with something in me. It all came off very real.

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For anyone who it may concern;

I am more of a video game buff. I pay particular attention to the narrative parts of video games, character design, graphic design, animation detail, gameplay mechanics, sound design and the composition of the games tracks are all highly considered. All this translates pretty well into my enjoyment of anime too. I've played nearly every game worth mentioning under the sun and I am very proud of it. Some folks believe games cant tell a story, or move you emotionally as a show or a movie can. This is false and very ignorant... games can do the same and sometimes to a greater degree. See "13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim" if you haven't already. You haven't? well hell you don't know what you are missing!

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Just bought the Blu ray of Neon Genesis Evangelion from Amazon.com. Too many times brought up and now its time to watch it. Sub of course. And no one even try to convince me otherwise. Please. <_<

Khalnayak2002 said:


idk what you mean by "ammo" but if you think DitF and Spy x Family are "masterpiece" or near it then you definitely are not watching enough good anime. SpyxFamily is easy 8/10 but DitF .....

take my word and watch good anime , you wont regret it.

Jandykun301 said:

Im agree about what u say, but I cant still understand why Zero Two had to become a goddamn giant machine,its completely out of logic; I would be more agree if Hiro and Zero Two would have gone together inside the machine or something like that. I think that is the reason that I can't love this work as much I would like.

LordKirkis said:


I am very picky. I only watch what I typically enjoy, has genuine artistry, high production values and is visibly a passion project.

The more anime I watch the greater the chances to watch average shows, which I wont have time for as I also play video games and watch movies.

LordKirkis said:


I understand your reservations given my profile, but you could just discuss DitF. How about it?

Also I am pretty proud of the shows I've watched thus far... they are arguably among the best no? I hardly have anything sus listed. I take this approach because my attention span doesn't really hold up well with average shows. (at the very least what seems like average, sometimes I am mistaken. It happens to anyone.)

Merve2Love said:



My point is: You do kinda have to know what the "average" Show is, before you can determine what's above average. ^^

That's why really getting into your takes on the Anime is pointless

But as I said. You liked it? Great :) You should, honestly. It's one of the first things you watched in the medium.

But don't look down on the typical Anime guy , pretty please

Eatpeener1234 said:
Or y'know, it sucks. You don't need to dickride every faux-intellectual mecha anime just because it has themes and commentary. Darling in the Franxx sucks and it's not because people don't understand it, many other mecha anime with interesting themes and commentary have been received quite well. I guarantee that if the show didn't make Zero Two hot you wouldn't care about it, cause the only people who still care about this show are lonely waifu worshippers.

chocomayu said:
Its always fun to read anyone complimenting and talking good about their favorite anime while looking down on others and calling them typical anime enjoyer .