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Jun 16, 2022 6:58 AM
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Well, it's good to see the guys keeping confidence with their work, especially after the recent drama.

On the other hand, it's sad and cruel to see someone hate Hiyori so much just because she's associated with the popular guys. However, I'm glad to see Hiyori finally confronting the person that took those photos before. Jealoousy in this anime is an ugly thing to see.

My favorite part is Hiyori standing up for herself.
Jun 16, 2022 7:01 AM
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Ya goddamned lying whore.

Now, the anime already was changing some little things compared to the music videos, now they also changed the big "reveal" a bit, but i get it, anime works diferenty than a music video, some changes are needed i guess.

Still, Chizuru was crazy for both of the idol boys right ? And not just Aizo, this episode really made her be into him, and just him a lot. Also, i will always support violence amongst good looking women ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jun 16, 2022 7:57 AM
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INSANE! That was insane. It should be called an idol obsession instead of a lover. What Chizuru has done so far was totally an obsession at an insane level.
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Jun 16, 2022 7:58 AM
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Not even Saori Hayami can save shitty writing
Jun 16, 2022 8:13 AM
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I Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!!
Jun 16, 2022 8:25 AM
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To think that it would be the glasses girl Chizuru finally showing herself as the idol fanatic, she's what you call your typical fan stalker, and a close friend of Hiyori and Juri's to boot that only makes last episode's drama much more...palatable, I guess?

Yujiro definitely sensed something wrong with Chizuru, and Aizo keeping tabs on her only would increase his exposure. Without Hiyori that she quit her manager-in-training job to appease the harassment from the scandal, LIP×LIP's position is better than ever, but they still have to move forward.

The secretive friend who's always been extraneously jealous of a fellow friend, the truth hurts when the cat is intentionally out of the bag by Aizo. And Mona as the tongue-in-cheek friend whom Hiyori can share this to for a pep talk, trying to forcefully talk to Chizuru ain't the style, but it's how Hiyori knows how to deal with best with a "complicated" plot like this one. It's certainly mindless drama plot at best.

At the end of the day, Chizuru supports LIP×LIP as much as the overly fanatic fan, and there'll be people like her all around. But for someone like Hiyori, to bear all of this BS being the hated heroine, I must give credit where credit is due.
Jun 16, 2022 8:29 AM
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Interestingly, Chizuru idol obsession isn't far fetched, honestly, is very real, and you see that around all the time.

Juri's stance about the matter was the great, she understood the problem, and let the 2 fight to a extent.

So, Chizuru was really Chuutan.

I really want to see Hiyori NDA with the agency.
Jun 16, 2022 8:53 AM
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The solution is more comedy than I expect
Jun 16, 2022 8:58 AM
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Well. They kind of settled the main drama of the last several episodes here. Not sure how I feel about how it all ended. Some things should not be forgiven easily. But I am glad that it wasn’t a huge cliff hanger. Can’t wait for the next episode and see how the aftermath goes.
Jun 16, 2022 9:23 AM

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"I didn't know she liked them so much, i hurt her" with so many creepy stalkers in RL going around, that's not best way to end this drama.
Jun 16, 2022 9:44 AM
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I hated that so much. Hiyori and LIPxLIP are the victims of that psycho Chizuru, but somehow the anime is making it out to be Hiyori's fault?????!!!!!!! Hiyori lost her job because of that dumb b*tch and LIPxLIP lost Hiyori's support, that is no one's fault, but Chizuru. Are you really telling me they're going to go back to being friends after that, when they were clearly never actually friends to begin with, since Chizuru only got close to her to keep tabs on her????!!!!!! And then we couldn't even get the satisfaction of Chizuru getting a beat down, instead poor Hiyori, who's already been through so much gets punched in the face and knocked out????!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!??????

This is total victim blaming and they're making it seem like it's okay to be a psycho stalker. Totally disgusted with this episode.
Jun 16, 2022 9:46 AM
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This episode low key glorified deranged stalker idol fans. Would have been so much better if this arc never happened
Jun 16, 2022 9:57 AM

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Glad the show wasted no time in revealing it was Chizuru in that first minute.

And I was expecting the girls to knock each other out at the end there but I guess the height difference between them was too great lol.
Jun 16, 2022 10:11 AM
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Its nice to see Aizo and Someya's invite has now become a daily occurrence for them. Compared to how they were initially Aizou and Someya are definitely more in sync. Sharing one's lunch is always one of the joys of school life. Still its rare to see Hayamin portray villainous characters but its good to see her expand the roles that she can portray. Mona's answer though was surprisingly deep. The confrontation sure got much more heated than i expected though. In the end while differences remain at the very least judging the fact that Chizuru stayed by Hiyori until she fell asleep that she does feel regret for her actions. Curious at what happens in the finale next week.
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Jun 16, 2022 12:39 PM

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Yujiro just shoving two-faced lying bitch-chan to the ground and walking away absolutely sent me, what a champion
Jun 16, 2022 12:50 PM

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GIRL FIGHT!!!!!

Seriously Hiyori never challenge some with longer arms to a fist fight, you'll always lose.

Chizuru is a deranged idol fan and her logic is absolute bullshit. I liked this episode but I' going to hate the next one because, Hiyori is going to forgive her and continue being her friend.

You can forgive someone but don't go being friends with someone who never liked you in the first place.
Jun 16, 2022 1:08 PM

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What the hell went on with the A.A. during the scene where Hiyori was punched to the ground? That was hilarious for some reason.




Jun 16, 2022 1:17 PM
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MizutaniShizuku1 said:
I hated that so much. Hiyori and LIPxLIP are the victims of that psycho Chizuru, but somehow the anime is making it out to be Hiyori's fault?????!!!!!!! Hiyori lost her job because of that dumb b*tch and LIPxLIP lost Hiyori's support, that is no one's fault, but Chizuru. Are you really telling me they're going to go back to being friends after that, when they were clearly never actually friends to begin with, since Chizuru only got close to her to keep tabs on her????!!!!!! And then we couldn't even get the satisfaction of Chizuru getting a beat down, instead poor Hiyori, who's already been through so much gets punched in the face and knocked out????!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!??????

This is total victim blaming and they're making it seem like it's okay to be a psycho stalker. Totally disgusted with this episode.

I hated this ep so much
I mean forgiving her
Nothing was fixed it was like its ok what she did
And when Hiyori cried feeling guilty I just felt so mad
I don't know what writers are thinkg
Jun 16, 2022 3:41 PM

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That was some trashy drama all right. Did not expect that punch to go so hard though.
Jun 16, 2022 3:44 PM

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Didn't feel anything for this episode, the climax was just weak, so was the confrontation between the two girls. I get that Hiyori is this sort of ultra / always positive character, but forgiving someone just like that, or even feeling guilty after being betrayed... a bit too much for me.

Don't know how this will end since there's only a 1 more episode, but I ain't expecting much at this stage.
Jun 16, 2022 4:58 PM

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Everyone pointing out the normalization of stalking is right, and I wonder if this was a sort of acknowledgment that they know what their fan base is made of, but... I didn't realize till now how much I wanted to see Hiyori punched. That was great.
Jun 16, 2022 5:49 PM
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The reveal of Chizuru being the culprit was expected but I didn’t expect the way it was handled, Hiyori and Chizuru getting into a shouting match and then throwing punches was both intense and hilarious, poor Hiyori couldn’t take one swing tho. But hurting Hiyori made Chizuru realize how much of an asshole she was looks like, giving her concern and even sleeping by Hiyori’s bedside. I know a lot of folks are gonna find it hard to forgive Chizuru but I think with the way the show has been up to this point, I want to see them stay friends.

But yeah Hiyori also definitely isn’t in the wrong, hopefully Aizou and Yuujirou help her realize that. But with one episode left, I’m definitely excited for the finale, this hasn’t been a favorite of mine this season but it’s been fun and I’ve definitely enjoyed it quite a bit.
Jun 16, 2022 5:53 PM

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Chizuru Did Nothing Wrong
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Jun 16, 2022 6:14 PM
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Gosh, r/Anime discussion about this episode has turned into a hostile steaming mess of toxic activist anti Idol / toxic fanbase cesspool.


All those 'Chizuru best girl' posts that were posted early getting downvote brigaded to sh!t, and subsequently deleted by their respective OPs to preserve karma LOL
Everyone noting how toxic and obsessive fanbases can become, and HoneyWorks apparent positive protrayal of such culture, with what appears to be a suspected 'all forgiven and forgotten' from the end preview, and apparently shifting the blame to Hiyori as she felt guilty; given that she lost her job, had everyone in school hate on her, and this impacted on LipxLip's reputation.

Pitchforks out to flay Chizuru.

Miscalculation and mishandling by HoneyWorks. How the rating of this show goes will now hinge on whether how they can redeem Chizuru, or not. Otherwise expect ratings to tank by the Reddit Horde, if its not tanking already, especially if Hiyori forgives Chizuru and lets her off with minimal consequence.

Wondered why no one posted anything on the MV about how bad this came across.
Perhaps better to not left it as a cliffhanger and handled it appropriately and completely in the same episode, or even make this a double-length episode season finale, as now viewers are angry and fuming for a week!


Edit to note that across the 10 weeks, the ratings has rose from 7.21 to 7.27 as of today, Also 13/40 viewers rates this episode 1 of 5.
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Silent_Shadow05 said:
Glad the show wasted no time in revealing it was Chizuru in that first minute.

And I was expecting the girls to knock each other out at the end there but I guess the height difference between them was too great lol.

Women man, the part I hate.
Jun 16, 2022 8:56 PM
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MizutaniShizuku1 said:
I hated that so much. Hiyori and LIPxLIP are the victims of that psycho Chizuru, but somehow the anime is making it out to be Hiyori's fault?????!!!!!!! Hiyori lost her job because of that dumb b*tch and LIPxLIP lost Hiyori's support, that is no one's fault, but Chizuru. Are you really telling me they're going to go back to being friends after that, when they were clearly never actually friends to begin with, since Chizuru only got close to her to keep tabs on her????!!!!!! And then we couldn't even get the satisfaction of Chizuru getting a beat down, instead poor Hiyori, who's already been through so much gets punched in the face and knocked out????!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!??????

This is total victim blaming and they're making it seem like it's okay to be a psycho stalker. Totally disgusted with this episode.
I was thinking this exact thing. How could you view this as anything other than someone way overstepping the bounds of their Fandom. Geesh.
Jun 16, 2022 11:16 PM

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Gdi, Hiyori don't feel bad. You did nothing wrong! Chizuru is a psychotic fan and needs to get a grip on reality. :|
Jun 16, 2022 11:28 PM

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I'm kinda laughing about the Hiyori-chan and Chizuru-chan hiding, searching and fighting. It's been a while since I saw two girls fighting. It's not that intense. 😅 Cause I really found Chizu-chan childish because of her reasons and Juri-chan there cheering for the fight. Hahaha

Yeah there's some changes compared to the original source (the music video) but anyways all good.

BTW next week is the final episode!! I hope everything will be OK and a happy ending for them.
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Jun 17, 2022 12:35 AM

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Why was this episode funny for absolutely no reason lmao hiyori fucking flew 😭
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Jun 17, 2022 12:46 AM
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Juri is the best chara. And, i wonder what will happen in the next eps bcs the second song just ended in this episode
Jun 17, 2022 1:02 AM

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this might be the most eventful ep!
omg who would have thought that megane girl (has finally shown her true colors) is the culprit!!! something must be done in order for Hiyori/Hiyoko to return to her former job once that b!tch is taken care off!
5/5.
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Jun 17, 2022 1:26 AM
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How are people hyping this series up? I swear this is promoting beta naïveté to the fucking extreme. I swear Japan wants to promote a worker mindset of being a doormat no matter what. Screw that, clock that megane hoe in the mouth while she sleeping and leave.
Jun 17, 2022 4:21 AM
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Man Chizuru is so real - there are so many fans just like her out there. I loved the touch of her being super depressed at her job but feeling pressured into it so that she can “support” her favs - it’s that instance where her obsession and hobby is bringing her more grief than enjoyment, it’s to the point where it is an actual problem and she needs an intervention like a girl boss fight with her bestie
Jun 17, 2022 4:43 AM

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Lmao Juri instigating the fight fucking killed me.

Chizuru definitely a toxic and obsessed as hell fan, but I like how they made all that conflict entertaining as fuck lmao.

Chad Yujiro bumps Chizuru, reveals secrets, refuses to elaborate, leaves.

Though what Chizuru did is inexcusable, they don't need to ostracize her, what they need to do is to educate her as her friends and to help her get over her unhealthy ways. Looking forward to see what they do for the season finale.
Jun 17, 2022 4:52 AM
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Lmao Juri instigating the fight fucking killed me.

Chizuru definitely a toxic and obsessed as hell fan, but I like how they made all that conflict entertaining as fuck lmao.

Chad Yujiro bumps Chizuru, reveals secrets, refuses to elaborate, leaves.

Though what Chizuru did is inexcusable, they don't need to ostracize her, what they need to do is to educate her as her friends and to help her get over her unhealthy ways. Looking forward to see what they do for the season finale.


Just saw your cross-post over at Reddit.
I posted similar sentiment, just after the episode was released and it got downvoted to smacktown, and had to delete (Yeah Ima chicken). Hopefully passions have abated.
Love the go-with-the-flow sentiment vibe, whilst still acknowledging Chizurus wrongdoings, over here.
Jun 17, 2022 6:59 AM
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Thinking about this episode some more and realizing that these kids are teenagers. Like. Yeah. Hiyori did nothing wrong and shouldn’t feel any guilt. But. She is a teenager and sees her friend is in pain because of her actions. As someone that beat themself up a ton as a child/teenager for things that weren’t my fault (and blamed for things that weren’t my fault) I can understand the guilt that she feels. Should she feel this guilt? No. Should Chizuru get off Scott free? Hell no. But would teenagers not yet that experienced in the world feel and act the way that these characters have? Yes. Yes they would. What’s up next is how the anime deals with the aftermath next episode. They could potentially ruin the whole show if they don’t do it right. But I am hopeful.
Jun 17, 2022 10:55 AM
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After this epiisode the Anime went from a okay to a bad show for me. I'm disgusted by the message the show gives to all victims of stalkers, mobbing and other harassment`s. I hope they add some consequences for Chutan and stop victim blalming.
Jun 17, 2022 4:02 PM

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is hiyori seriously blaming herself??? chizuru has this holier-than-thou attitude because she watches stalks lipxlip from afar and 'respects' (is that even the right word) their boundaries, essentially (not really though bc she's a stalker). stalking, harassment, violence, my god does this girl want to add anything else to the list?

wish anime would stop pushing this "everyone has to be friends :D happy yay friendship woo" garbage. normalize characters in anime hating other people and those other people moving on with their lives.
 



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I’m so happy!!! I was worried they weren’t going to include this bit in the anime but they actually did! Only wish they could’ve played the song that came with it!
Jun 17, 2022 8:04 PM
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I can't stand it. Chizuru hates her bla bla and we can really see it. She has done a REALLY horrible thing to the protagonist which could've ended way worse.

Now what I predict and think will happen is that Chizuru will ask for forgiveness. ofc she will be forgiven because Chizuru=friend for protagonist and that is precisely what I can't stand. It is so convenient. It is so easy to write "I hate you form the bottom of my heart" and in the next moment to have them say "I'm really sorry. Can we be friends again?". What makes that "move" in the story worse is imo that (in this case) Chizuru isn't important to the story at all. She never played a major role in the story for her to be now the biggest "plottwist" in the anime. It's cheap. Maybe there were hints here and there for her hatred but nobody cares about her. She's just a background character who gets rarely attention in the anime and exactly that person shows her hatred in the beginning of the episode and 20min later the problem is resolved.

This is just an assumption at this point but regarding that we have only an episode left and that this anime is mediocre in many ways I think it will turn out like I previously said.

But this whole tedious little rant I've written serves to strengthen just one point that I want to make:
Chizuru=bad written bitch. Get the fk out of here your crazy monkey. How could you do something so traumatic to an obviously innocent and good hearted girl like hiyori? Can't you use your brain before you go completely nuts? Can't you first try to SPEAK about your problem? What are you, a 10 y/o?

Worst episode so far. Next episode will be probably even worse. You know, hiyori forgiving her for real.

Anyways, thanks for reading. I'm going to sleep
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Chizuru Did Nothing Wrong


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Jun 17, 2022 10:44 PM
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um what chizuru did is unforgivable for a friend. like ruining someone's life isn't an act I would take lightly. Hiyori is a damn saint for how she acted. I would have told her as it is ,"I want you gone out of my life like the bitch ass you are. You are dead to me. when we interact it will be as if you are less than the ant squashed beneath my feet". like betrayal hits different when its a friend betraying you, rather than it have been some rando. I always thought chizuru was hiding something. but I wasn't expecting it to be this.
Jun 18, 2022 3:58 AM

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This show went from about a 7 for me to about a 5 these last two episodes have been Soooooo fucking stupid and angering! First with the non-stop "no let's not look for the STALKER", cause that's bad somehow and hurts the fans....what!?!? Then we have Hiyori constantly going woe is me it's all my fault this person is psychotic and stalking us. It's all my fault the fans are angry. I'm the one that hurt LipxLip, not the STALKER!!!!......awhaaaaa huh?!?!
Now we have the I was hurting the STALKER and didn't even know it.....'WHAT', I wanna know what the STALKERS real feelings are.....'THE', I need to be friends with the STALKER again just cause happy......'FUCK'......this show is ludicrous.



Even if that's hiyori's personality and she can just forgive a person who's clearly mentally ill and needs true help, I mean psychiatric clinical help, like ward of the state must be committed help, like shock treatment to the bitches crazy ass brain help! Then she needs to face punishment some other way, LipxLip and especially Blonde hair guy needs to go up to her and say "You're not my fan, Don't ever come to our show, You tried to destroy our career and hurt someone you called a friend, Don't ever try to contact us again or send us letters, take us out of your life goodbye"......at the very least!

I was liking this show and really digging the girl coming of age and finding herself as she grows kinda story. They did a good job that was believable with the her getting hurt and having the idols give her a morale boost. They did a great job with the childhood friend confessing to her and her kind of reasonably talking to him about it and then coming to an understanding that's realistic.
But now this is just gone off the rails, in real life you would have called the police cuz this fan is not only stalking these celebrities but they could be dangerous physically. Just like a couple years ago when that one female idol got stabbed to death by a crazy fan like 27 times stabbed! Also when someone hides everything about their life from you, tries to destroy your life, tries to destroy the idols career and then goes off the rails insane yelling at you like it's your fault....... You don't stay friends with them! Period! This cunt almost ruined your school life, might have even gotten you hurt physically, got you to a point where you had to quit your job which then I remind you was a way for you to help take some financial burden off your family who was struggling to pay your way in Tokyo, all while pretending to be a good friend of yours..... I wouldn't even want to know what would have happened at the sleepover if her secret didn't get found out! Chu-tan needs Jesus bad....


Ok rant done let's finish this shit show. I can normally let stuff slide because it's anime... I mean I get it!
But sometimes just thing after thing after thing makes you so mad it destroys the show. This is one of those times. If I wasn't almost done with this show I wouldn't even watch anymore....Sad


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After this epiisode the Anime went from a okay to a bad show for me. I'm disgusted by the message the show gives to all victims of stalkers, mobbing and other harassment`s. I hope they add some consequences for Chutan and stop victim blalming.
Right this dropped like 3 ratings for me in all of two episodes! Crazy how a bad ending can destroy a whole anime!
Jun 18, 2022 6:18 AM
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I really like this episode and the whole anime... Because I'm not overthinking it, for some damn reason I just like it and I like how Hiyori and Chizuru argues and fight despite It's sad it's missing the part where Chizuru and Juri picked up Hiyori to the Infirmary, I think it would be a great addition to show how guilty Chizuru is.

Tbh, the writing is probably not that great and is showing you how bad Idol Culture is in Japan because it is what it is, most of the time It's the victim that paid the price.

But, if you're not overthinking it, this anime is just great because remember, this anime probably intended for HoneyWorks fans, teenage girls on top of that, most of the people are here for Aizo and Yuujirou.
Jun 18, 2022 1:26 PM

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Chizu was the one who hurt you by knocking you out 💀

I'll drop that type of friend like hell nah. She's an obsessive fan, not a friend.
Jun 18, 2022 5:53 PM
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Well revelation time. Not every time i get chance to hear Saori voiced some maniac-like Chizuru, like for real. Ayase vibe intensified xd. Then looks like Minorin herself had a fun too while voicing Hiyoko get knocked out on the face like that. Don't forget about how Ayaneru voiced so spiritful when cheering them into the fight, like damn, man. I can feel though my vein that those three get so much fun voice acting the character in one recording place. But people here get mad over nothing, like seriously you really mad over the generic cheesy teenage girl drama like that? Ah yes how refreshing this season is xd.

But anyway expected fun shit episode. Glad that they end the episode with such a highly note like that. I notice that the ed theme actually quite awkward and strange when episode is about them fightin, i expect some the new ed theme to express it more. ut oh well, the studio looks pretty much out of budget already and the final shall be expected to be about them get befriended again cause Hiyorin reveal her secret job to Juri and Chizuru to end all the farce drama.

Right, right? xd

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Jun 18, 2022 8:37 PM

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I thought Hiyori would only play nice when she ran after Chizuru, but hot damn did she surprise by confronting her instead. She definitely held her own, too bad she ain't the fighting type. It's pretty rare for anime girls to get in a physical altercation, totally impressed because I've always wondered how come it doesn't often occur.
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Jun 19, 2022 12:55 AM
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ladies and gentlemen, we got the evil b1tch!

n why hiyori lose the fight with that bitch?.
u know, she should be has more power. she always do running...
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course Chizuru is Chutan we knew long ago. Now just confirms she the stalker. Was hoping she a redherring, as megane girls are villanized too often.
Mona's nice but got the opposite situation to mc's.
Juri lol
I get Hiyori's optimistic & always blame herself, but that psycho's clearly not a friend.
Chizuru already racked up stalking, illegal recording, disseminated said photos, battery, & possibly defamation crimes, a lot of jail time lol. Is the show gonna keep hiding behind their fans-are-priority excuse?
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