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May 15, 2020 10:36 AM
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Jacksnapp said:
That phallic symbolism though


Exactly, Anthy kissing the sword πŸ™ŠπŸ™ŠπŸ™Š
Jun 7, 2020 4:48 PM

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Great episode!

I kinda wanted to prolong the eventual return of Anthy, but still. Seeing Utena in normal uniform, as normal girl. It just doesn't feel Utena :P

Serves Touga right for playing Utena like that.
Jul 9, 2020 6:50 AM
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Considering the phallic symbolism in this episode (swords *are* phallic but the fight scene really visually insisted on that aspect of the sword Touga is using), is there a possibility that this duel between Utena and Touga was a metaphor for attempted rape?
Dec 20, 2020 12:45 PM

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I noticed in the song it mentioned 'Galactic Railroad', is this reference to
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Dec 31, 2020 11:13 PM

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Watching this episode on a large TV was a mistake, this one in particular must've caused seizures back when it aired, surely lol.

But other than that, great episode!
Apr 16, 2021 10:17 PM

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The kiss on the forehead was cute and all but Wakaba sure deserved a MVP medal this episode. I mean, she alone made Utena stop being a pathetic mess and get her shit together.

P.S.: I have never felt stronger NTR vibes than seeing a passive af girl kissing her owner's sword right in front of the girl she used to be with before.
May 18, 2021 11:49 AM
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3miL said:
Damsel in distress (bride) in a cage βœ“
Villain voiced by Takehito Koyasu βœ“
Characters wielding swords βœ“

Yeah, It's ALO all over again (this shit's way better though)

The protag's first loss. Regardless of the genre, really stings

Having a girl's clothes ripped bit by bit βœ“
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Sep 13, 2021 2:24 PM
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I would love to hug Wakaba
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Sep 14, 2021 4:36 PM
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some thoughts of the moment

a) Nanami has serious problems... She needs a psychiatrist and not a cheap profiteer (aka Touga) who uses her when it's convenient and has no real regard for her feelings

b) And I made a big mistake: The real motherfucker is Kiryuu Touga and not Saionji; he is what we call here in Brazil "esquerdomacho", the one who makes friends with women, but this friendship is pure facade to bring them closer, he is a type that has no respect for them...

c) Hating this character, besides generating me several triggers, I can't bear to hear this disgusting guy's voice

d) "Don't touch her. DON'T TOUCH MY UTENA."
Wakaba I really want to hug you!!!!



e) Utena can't stand to see Himemiya on her knees kissing the idiot's sword - Strong sexual connotation (?) along with a critique about sexism, patriarchy and toxic masculinity, as well as showing how far a person can submit by smothering its own individuality

f) I hope Utena saves Himemiya, as she is the only one who has known how to value Himemiya as a person in most of the series so far.

g) And Juri helping Utena was something I didn't expect, but this help, this sword passage, was very representative.

h) Touga is extremely cocky himself... He was really convinced that Utena was going to fall into his trap for good, but she taught him a lesson so that he would never play with her again.



i) ...and he is not her 'prince', as one might suspect
Apr 2, 2022 3:27 AM

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Now I got to see the plot armour. I don't know how many times they will repeat the duel as the outcome is very much predictable.
Apr 26, 2022 4:20 AM

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Mae821920 said:
Considering the phallic symbolism in this episode (swords *are* phallic but the fight scene really visually insisted on that aspect of the sword Touga is using), is there a possibility that this duel between Utena and Touga was a metaphor for attempted rape?
I agree with that interpretation. Maybe Utena's clothes being torn repeatedly by Touga's 'blade' is a part of that metaphor.
Jul 13, 2022 2:23 PM

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Wow, I don’t remember the last time I enjoyed a single episode this much… With the way this is going, I think this anime might even place among my favourites, and I thought I didn’t like shoujo.
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Sep 6, 2022 10:00 PM

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Wakaba is the MVP, she motivated Utena to take back her own self and Himemiya, who was very important to her. deserved comeback right there, Utena can be happy and herself again with Himemiya by her side.
Feb 26, 2023 11:07 AM
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love this series, especially utena's development and her relationship with anthy (who's just lovely). but, even though i can look past the annoying pretentious and misogynistic members of the student council, i really can't stand the way anthy is constatly being assaulted and abused which is even more disturbing considering she's a black girl.... please let my precious lesbian live her life in peace!!!!!!
May 3, 2023 7:24 AM
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I want to see Anthy get set free from this absolute circus. What even are these dueling tournaments ultimately for??

Wakaba was a phenomenal character this episode! Love her.
Feb 21, 4:36 AM

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UTENA WILL NOT SUBMIT TO THE PATRIARCHY
UTENA WILL NOT BE 'NORMAL'
UTENA WILL NOT GIVE UP ON HER BOUNDRIES
UTENA WILL NEVER STOP BEING HERSELF
UTENA IS LIBERATED
the chaddest of all

chuchus acting weird its like theyre hypnotized, and its being foreshadowed by the obsession with just consuming the cookie and not interacting like ever, theres a scheme happening here somewhere, and anthy has already regained agency before to an extent as she would cheer for utena during the duels without being ordered to do so, she may also be under some spell
i done a lot of shouting during this episode i was cheering for utena so loud
at first i was suprised and cringed when utena didnt bring her 'boy's' uniform to the duel, but then i realized there is an important subversion happening here; it is not the uniform that makes her strong, she doesnt need to dress/look like a man in order to be the prince, its not her dress that defines her, its herself; the traditionally feminine aesthetics do not equal submission, u do not need to rid urself of what is considered to be feminine in order to resist
May 12, 11:23 PM
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I was disappointed that Touga was so boring this episode. Having your cake and eating it too is supposed to be fun, but it looked like any other day for lover boy. I much prefer the perpetual schemer to a rich, handsome, tall guy who is taking down every girl that comes his way. I mean at least involve Anthy in your shenanigans instead of having her wait around like a robot.

I was surprised that Touga lost so easily. I guess for right now, Juri is the strongest fighter at the school with no magical powers. What a twist!

The song they chose for the tower climb was straight fire. I hope they use that music again and often.

I genuinely think Anthy is starting to see Utena as something more than a master. I guess we need more to learn about Anthy really wants.

Chu Chu has no loyalty to Utena at all. Shame!!
Sep 28, 6:30 PM
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no slap for you Anthy
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