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Winter_Fox said: I would wait on that, The story is very much in the beginning stage.GGcc78 said: Just a heads up that it's really not that type of show. There's fights and action but thats not the focus and only happens occasionally. The arc that would cover volumes 8 through 10 in paticular would be very low on action Lemme reprashe not just action, I mean sense of danger or tension, is it really none of them? Just adventure like dora the explorer? Just curious I do love this series I just want something happened because adventure without enemy feels empty. |
| aw ive missed roxy. great to get a break from the main 3, it was refeshing to check in on another character. really good episode. |
Morssee said: Well you did say Elinalise is not important to the main story which is completely wrong, though it's major spoilers which I said a page or two back why.dabdabgoose said: Your confusing bad morals with stupidity, are you seriously looking for a show full of clean skins? That's not at all what I'm trying to say but it's alright. |
Morssee said: I mean I already explained what her story is yet you still don't get it.dabdabgoose said: Well you did say Elinalise is not important to the main story which is completely wrong, though it's major spoilers which I said a page or two back why. I said that the way her story is, is unnecessary, her story could've been completely something else, not that it's not important, I couldn't care less if it is or not. I said that she is not that important as a character since she's not a main character, so her story definetly isn't important compared to the main ones. The reason why I say that her story is unnecessary isn't because I think that it's not important, it's because it could've been a unique dark story or even a normal one, but they went with the classic "I'm horny for sex" route. I'm tired of this discussion, either you get what I'm trying to say or you don't, it's alright either way for me. It is a dark story though Your solutions in terms of writing come up with ''or even a normal one'' suggests to me you don't care about the cliche part. Make all the excuses you want, just admit you don't want sexual stuff in anime, are we all children? |
Morssee said: I get Rape can be confronting, and in alot of shows such as Redo of healer it's used as a edgy plot device to hide the crappy writing as the story has no depth to it and without it there is nothing unique about the show.dabdabgoose said: I mean I already explained what her story is yet you still don't get it. It is a dark story though Your solutions in terms of writing come up with ''or even a normal one'' suggests to me you don't care about the cliche part. Make all the excuses you want, just admit you don't want sexual stuff in anime, are we all children? Feels like I'm in a Twitter comment section here "You don't like that her story is dark and sad and that the concept is being used more and more in anime lately, that means that you don't want sexual stuff in anime in general.." No buddy, I just don't like seeing rape and people forced to have sex for a while. The first time I saw the Goblin Slayer scenes it fked with my brain and created other stupid feelings, not to even mention the Berserk stories, but since the concept of those dark stories is keep showing up in a lot of series, it literally becomes stale and annoying for me. I'm not making any excuses mate, It's just the way I feel. Some of my friends don't care at all about rape in anime or movies, but I'm simply not a fan of seeing sad little stories like this over and over. They're in animes to sort of get your attention and show that the series can be very dark, but there's other many ways of doing so. But can you compare that to anything this show has shown, it has hinted at rape in scenes but not shown it, but it would be unrealistic to say it doesn't happen in any world. Elinalise story has importance but at current they have limited her interactions massively especially after the first time they show her doing the deed. Can you honestly say the theme is always going to be stale? Like it may be confronting but it's still a work of fiction and if written well any plot degenerate or not can be used to create an interesting story, I mean this show from a story perspective is incredibly Generic on the surface but there is depth to it and the characters to show an entirely different perspective on the genre, would you say it's impossible to do the same on degenerate things as well or the whole subject is cliche no matter what it can turn into? |
Morssee said: Fair enough, I didn't mean to attack you I just thought you where coming from the perspective that it's made to be trash on purpose via the degeneracy. Everyone has their preferences I guess.dabdabgoose said: I get Rape can be confronting, and in alot of shows such as Redo of healer it's used as a edgy plot device to hide the crappy writing as the story has no depth to it and without it there is nothing unique about the show. But can you compare that to anything this show has shown, it has hinted at rape in scenes but not shown it, but it would be unrealistic to say it doesn't happen in any world. Elinalise story has importance but at current they have limited her interactions massively especially after the first time they show her doing the deed. Can you honestly say the theme is always going to be stale? Like it may be confronting but it's still a work of fiction and if written well any plot degenerate or not can be used to create an interesting story, I mean this show from a story perspective is incredibly Generic on the surface but there is depth to it and the characters to show an entirely different perspective on the genre, would you say it's impossible to do the same on degenerate things as well or the whole subject is cliche no matter what it can turn into? I certainly don't have any problem with a dark story if its well executed, the only thing I don't like, it's the fact that those themes have entered the norm in most dark stories related to girls in anime. I'd rather see a sad story instead of a traumatic story like rape or someone forced to have sex because of various reasons. So then why not want to see that instead of Elina's story? :) Look, it's really not that big of a deal, it's just that I prefer a generic sad story over a generic sexual story. That's all. I don't mind either if the anime is good and if they are very well executed, I'd just rather see one over the other. That's all. |
| Roxy my girll <333 Good episode |
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Syrux_Neblaus said: Lilia by Paul when they where at a Dojo as teenagers. and potentially Soros in episode 7 with the maid but that's reaching I would say.Which character did get rape? Did I miss something? Aov? |
Syrux_Neblaus said: I think that kid that Pauls party saved in Millishon was used as a prostitute which would of been explained in the LN but it wasn't explained in the show, which is messed up because he is probably around Rudeus age, I can see why they glossed over it in the anime.dabdabgoose said: Lilia by Paul when they where at a Dojo as teenagers. and potentially Soros in episode 7 with the maid but that's reaching I would say. I see , are there More ? Cause the word rape was so redundant that i thought for a bit that maybe that was a thing in this show. Also sorry for Lilia. Apart from that I can't think of anything else. |
dabdabgoose said: Power imbalance makes such a thing fairly more likely, and I wouldn't call this the face of "consent". If consent was had, it would be dubious at best.Syrux_Neblaus said: Lilia by Paul when they where at a Dojo as teenagers. and potentially Soros in episode 7 with the maid but that's reaching I would say.Which character did get rape? Did I miss something? Aov? |
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| Great episode. Its roxy episode and she knows that Rudeus is safe. And some backstory of Roxy and her problems in childhood. Which give her some nice closure in her development, by open up to her parents. Overall another build up episode to new arc |
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Tylaen said: Your probably right on that, but without context that wasn't really given in the anime atleast it's an assumption, unlike in Lilia's case.dabdabgoose said: Power imbalance makes such a thing fairly more likely, and I wouldn't call this the face of "consent". If consent was had, it would be dubious at best.Lilia by Paul when they where at a Dojo as teenagers. and potentially Soros in episode 7 with the maid but that's reaching I would say. Though if what Gallus said in episode 14 applies to them then they are likely bought slaves so you would assume it would be, but then it would be quite odd for Ghislaine to be okay to work for them, but the maids don't exactly act like they are being forced to work against their will when Rudeus was there. |
dabdabgoose said: The surrounding scene is the context itself! Sauros is a nobleman, the superior to the maid. She looks uncomfortable a split second before realizing Rudy is there and that doesn't change on her exit. Sauros is dispassionate about the whole ordeal, seemingly just satisfying himself and so on.Tylaen said: Your probably right on that, but without context that wasn't really given in the anime atleast it's an assumption, unlike in Lilia's case.Power imbalance makes such a thing fairly more likely, and I wouldn't call this the face of "consent". If consent was had, it would be dubious at best. Though if what Gallus said in episode 14 applies to them then they are likely bought slaves so you would assume it would be, but then it would be quite odd for Ghislaine to be okay to work for them, but the maids don't exactly act like they are being forced to work against their will when Rudeus was there. While an assumption, I find there is more of it to suggest Sauros just had his way with the working class, as noblemen do. Even if they're not exactly "forced", within this scene, I don't view such as a compelling counter-narrative given each respective character's demeanor within the scene itself. For how minor a scene it is, it's probably not worth dwelling over for now though. I'll see more about their ordeal later I imagine. |
TylaenNov 18, 2021 4:57 PM
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Syrux_Neblaus said: Sure, Sauros.Tylaen said: The surrounding scene is the context itself! Gallus is a nobleman, the superior to the maid. She looks uncomfortable a split second before realizing Rudy is there and that doesn't change on her exit. Gallus is dispassionate about the whole ordeal, seemingly just satisfying himself and so on. While an assumption, I find there is more of it to suggest Gallus just had his way with the working class, as noblemen do. Even if they're not exactly "forced", within this scene, I don't view such as a compelling counter-narrative given each respective character's demeanour within the scene itself. For how minor a scene it is, it's probably not worth dwelling over for now though. I'll see more about their ordeal later I imagine. You mean sauros ? Right? Yeah possible. The scene itself is complicated. Also even if she was doing it willingly , we can't discard the possibility that it's in oder to keep her job or worse cher Head. But as already point out it's the Ghislaine's factor that messing with my head. And, I mean, that's what dubious consent is? You're giving the okay, but it's not like you have a choice. Looks fairly uncomplicated to me. |
TylaenNov 18, 2021 4:59 PM
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nanajp said: Roxy can't talk through telepathy :( Good to know that Roxy decided to sleep with her parents and not walk away again after returning home lmao. When will Roxy and Rudeus meet!? Don't click if you really don't want to be spoiled on the Roxy/Rudeus reunion, just a warning. |
dabdabgooseNov 19, 2021 3:49 AM
GreatShitposter said: without spoiling Elinalise's story at this stage is a drip feed for what will be revealed later.The alienation of Roxy for not being able to use something as trivial(for them at least) as telepathy was done extremely well. I still don't get the point of Elinalise on what's her role except just having sex. Roxy Papa and Mama learnt a literal foreign language for their daughter which just shows the love of a parent for their child. Mushoku isn't always great, but when it is, it truly feels good. The show's still bogged with unnecessary fanservice but this episode was great. Truly a 5/5. |
| With the exception of a few... nauseous minutes at the start this episode was all about Roxy, who reached the Demon Continent with her group. She also managed to make up with her family. We also saw how Roxy perceived failed telepathic attempts; that was.. scary af. Somehow the horse-man who was almost killed by Ruijerd in the first part used to be in Roxy's adventurer group. What a small world.. I thought Roxy was going to learn about Rudeus from him, but she found out from her parents. If she hadn't met the horse guy I doubt she would have gone to meet them, so he proved useful for once. At long last she realized who Dead End actually are; it seems that it was not meant by fate or sth to meet in that port town with Rudeus, despite multiple almost meets. Will they meet in the future or is Rudeus going to find his kawaii Sylphie first? Whoever he finds first, how is Eris going to react? :) |
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| Roxy finally got to know that the group of three called Dead End is actually where Rudeus is in. So I'm guessing her fear for Superd has decreased a little. But her overly exaggerated reaction whenever hearing the word Superd is annoying. The way Roxy reacted in that cafe when the horse face mentioned Superd, her reaction looked like she was in heat or something... Good thing Roxy reunited with her family. Their reunion was touching. |
| This show's been all about family reunion lately although I'm not complaining. And it seems Roxy really is friends with that horse guy what a small world huh |
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| Yeee, Roxy is back and with her own episode! That was an emotional one. |
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| Roxy dedicated episode, a lot of family issues and I have to admit, for drama in this anime, this was a pretty good episode for sure. I liked it a lot lmao. Roxy is such a sweetie too. |
| ROXY CENTERED EP !!! liked it a whole lot. usual family bonding moment and character cry's to make Me cry, and of course it worked the way they did the clacking noises with some kind of tiny flash animations for the telepathy thing was really good. made me feel uncomfortable just by watching it for 5 secs, cant imagine what roxy went through especially kid her because of that |
| Lol Ruijerd beating up that man was the most hilarious thing on earth anyways poor Rudy and Eris feeling ill and all the suffer :c Yay more roxy!! I miss her so much in every bit and Roxy sure has probably become a lot more sociable with horse guy and other human creatures. Roxy's faced every time she hears people calling out Dead End always gets me nervous. Ah yes Roxy goin to her family town is always the sweetest experience to see all of her relatives and their own properties :3 but I wondered what's going on with that shiny thing almost looking like someone took a picture of her and sound like someone mining a crystal or something :o Also did her parents learn japanese and not speaking the demon god language? Woah that's impressive or maybe that's what's in Roxy's POV I guess but man this feels really rushed like Roxy shouldn't be leaving after just 5 minute reuniting with her parents ;-; she should at least comfort them though I could grasp some concept where no one is getting along with her and I think that shiny thing is the cause of it :^ but really looking forward to knowing more about that shiny thing. Also she cried like Chika and I noticed that she has the VA as her xD and you know, THEM CRYING MAKES ME GOING CRYINGGGGGGGGGGG LIKE CRAZY 😭 It's very refreshing to see Roxy going back to normal and just having a normal routine and literally when her dad was like, "Your friend Rudeus" then Roxy began oOo lolol this is too cute that she suddenly fainted xD. Man love the amount of family episodes we have, like we get to know more about Paul and then Roxy's backstory too here. Love how the sweet arc ends with Elina going -O- again with some more human creature I bet and ah yes Roxy using her staff to wrekt their current place :P + love how it's almost the same scene as Episode 2 but with different dialogue afterwards xD |
| Really emotional episode for Roxy meeting her family again, sad she doesn't know telepathy, it's not surprising that she had a difficult childhood here |
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| So now Roxy knows Rudy is safe as well, I really wonder where Zenith and Lilia went and especially Sylphy, I hope we get to see her this season, even if it's in the last episode. Touching reunion for Roxy as well. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| I wonder how many figurines Paul is going to have to hand out? What is up with Roxy's paranoia over the Dead End gang? My first impression is that her telapathy is starting to form... we'll see. Damn slow episode, Roxy's visit home could have been wrapped up in two minutes, but the reunion was sweet and Roxy's realization that who Dead End was was pretty touching too, but this episode could have covered so much more ground. They didn't need the long sad still shots to highlight Roxy's feelings of isolation |
| Ruijerd Just destroyed that guy poor Rudy he’s going to have to build allot of statues! Nice to see Roxy again glad she got a happy reunion pretty sad backstory though bless her. Slow episode but It wasn’t bad either Roxy is definitely best girl. |
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